Matserevich: Together with Europe and the United States we will press on Russia on the Tu-154

Polish online edition virtual Poland It comes out with material in which the claim of the Committee on Human Rights of the Council of Europe to Russia on the Tu-154, which broke near Smolensk, was announced The committee joined the requirements of the official Warsaw to transfer the wreckage of the airliner, which currently remain in Russia. It is the fact that Russia did not hand over the wreckage of the Tu-154 to the Polish side, today it leads to the emergence in Poland of conspiracy theories about the crash of the board on which representatives of the Polish political and military elite were flying.

It seems that the former head of the Polish Ministry of Defense, Anthony Maciesevich, was more pleased with the demands of the Council of Europe Committee. After he was removed from his post as head of the Polish Ministry of Defense, Matserevich heads a commission to investigate the causes of the crash of the Tu-154.

According to Matserevich, "the overall pressure on Russia from Poland, the European Union and partners from the United States should ultimately act on Moscow."

The Council of Europe called on Russia to immediately transfer the Polish side, in cooperation with Polish experts, to the Polish Tu-154 wreckage. At the same time, it is noted that delaying the transfer of the wreckage of the crashed aircraft will be regarded as “abuse of the law”.

In Russia, experts note that as soon as the wreckage falls into the hands of “specialists” from the category of Matserevich, Polish provocateurs will immediately announce “the discovery of irrefutable evidence of the Kremlin’s hand”. It should be noted that already now Matserevich is voicing a crazy version of the alleged discovery of traces of explosives on the wing. At the same time, the ex-minister claims that the explosives could have hit the wing allegedly during scheduled maintenance of the Tu-154 in Russia.

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[invincible]

The plane is Polish, why do not give the wreckage. Strange, it suggests that something is not clean there and hide something.
If everything is clear, then why not transfer the Polish plane to Poland ...

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

Quote: invincible

The plane is Polish, why do not give debris

Under Russian law, fragments must remain at the disposal of the investigation until the investigation is completed.

[invincible]

So they didn’t complete it, it’s already 10 years.

[MPN]

Poland believes it is not completed. If they had completed the question of this, they would have been cleared, but if they want to continue, well, for God's sake.

[bulvas]

Quote: invincible

The plane is Polish, why do not give the wreckage. Strange, it suggests that something is not clean there and hide something.
If everything is clear, then why not transfer the Polish plane to Poland ...

Yes, only then they will remove us from the investigation and begin to find “irrefutable evidence of the guilt of the Russian Federation” on the wreckage.


Is Malaysian Boeing not enough for us?
No more faith in Europe

[figwam]

Quote: bulvas

No more faith in Europe

That's for sure, there immediately and fingerprints of FSB officers will find both explosives and Russian passports and meldonium and a novice.

[SSR]

Quote: bulvas

No more faith in Europe

I apologize.
Look at the photo for the article !!!
Everything is according to Lavrov.

[GibSoN]

Really not "in the subject"! What does it mean that Poland believes and the wreckage that the Russian Federation does not give? That is, it turns out something like this .. So far, someone who does not agree with the completion of the investigation does not agree, the investigation will not be completed? What does it matter, who does not agree? An interesting picture ... If, according to such a scheme, the whole IC of the Russian Federation worked, I think I wouldn’t have caught anyone or anyone at all ..

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

Quote: invincible

So they didn’t complete

questions to the Poles

[ser-pov]

What is his disgusting face ...

[Avis-bis]

Quote: ser-pov

What is his disgusting face ...

[mr.Vain]

Matserevich, what a nasty, stinking insignificance, hesitated everyone with his plane.

[Russia]

Clever, yes, and strange at the same time, do you want traces of explosives to be inflicted on him, and a couple of grenades rushed into the wreckage? I put it bad, the preparation is at zero.

[svp67]

Quote: invincible

The plane is Polish, why do not give the wreckage.

Based on RUSSIAN LEGISLATION. This is material evidence and until the completion of the investigation they are not entitled to give it to anyone. As soon as the investigation is COMPLETE, which the Polish side opposes in every way, they can be transferred or disposed of. It’s not worth apparently explaining that since the accident occurred on our territory and a Russian-made aircraft, the investigation was conducted with the assistance of our specialists and experts. Polish specialists and experts had and have FULL access to them and, if necessary, can carry out all necessary investigative measures

[GibSoN]

Well, according to your content, there is only one conclusion! Do you agree with our opinion? No?! Well then, the investigation continues .. an interesting picture comes out. They have been investigating for so many years .. so what, are there real progress?

[ARES623]

Quote: svp67

As soon as the investigation is COMPLETE, which the Polish side opposes in every way, they can be transferred or disposed of.

In addition, a court decision must be held in which the guilty party must be made obligated to pay the financial costs of the investigation and the court. Then the court decision should enter into legal force. Those. become non-appealable. Well, then the wreckage can be disposed of on a commission basis, in order to avoid manipulation and provocation.

[Grim Reaper]

Quote: svp67

Quote: invincible

The plane is Polish, why do not give the wreckage.

Based on RUSSIAN LEGISLATION. This is material evidence and until the completion of the investigation they are not entitled to give it to anyone. As soon as the investigation is COMPLETE, which the Polish side opposes in every way, they can be transferred or disposed of. It’s not worth apparently explaining that since the accident occurred on our territory and a Russian-made aircraft, the investigation was conducted with the assistance of our specialists and experts. Polish specialists and experts had and have FULL access to them and, if necessary, can carry out all necessary investigative measures

gave everything, absolutely everything. Up to the last molecule.
But then the Poles decided to show off
Well, sho mast go.
Something like this...

[210ox]

Do you know Hochma about the "elusive" cowboy? Well, about the plane .. They don’t pass it because they don’t take it ..

Quote: invincible

The plane is Polish, why do not give the wreckage. Strange, it suggests that something is not clean there and hide something.
If everything is clear, then why not transfer the Polish plane to Poland ...

[Observer2014]

invincible (sasha)

The plane is Polish, why do not give the wreckage. Strange, it suggests that something is not clean there and hide something.

Yes, they hide how such a stupid comment from Israel was drawn

[major147]

Quote: invincible

will be regarded as "abuse of the law."

Think about these words. From their logic it follows that if you obey the law, it will be "abuse of the law."

[sabakina]

Quote: major147

Think about these words. From their logic it follows that if you obey the law, it will be "abuse of the law."

Reminded ...

[Nikolai Grek]

Quote: invincible

The plane is Polish, why do not give the wreckage.

because pshekia has turned into an inadequate state formation !!!

[Grim Reaper]

Quote: invincible

The plane is Polish, why do not give the wreckage. Strange, it suggests that something is not clean there and hide something.
If everything is clear, then why not transfer the Polish plane to Poland ...

yeah take it easy with these debris. For a long time they gave everything away. What kind of nonsense have you seen in the media?

[RECORHE]

If you give them the debris, tomorrow they will be with traces of TNT, dynamite, pyroxylin, explosive mercury, nitroglycerin, uranium, plutonium and God knows what!

[Fitter65]

All is clear. You don’t know the international laws that indicate where the wreckage of the aircraft is stored, who is responsible for their safety and others. Therefore, this canoe with ... "something is not clean" ... do not throw manure on the fan.

[Bogolubskiy]

The materials on the Katyn case have already been handed over to these non-friends. They safely “lost” them and as a result we now have what we have ...

[Ross xnumx]

Quote: invincible

If everything is clear, then why not transfer the Polish plane to Poland ...

Russia has already tried to transfer the remnants (remains) of the Ukrainian fleet to the interested party. Do not take. Here is the same situation.
And what kind of expert opinion would suit the Polish “adequate”? Are there any traces of explosives on all the debris collected? Traces of the S-500 missile? Phrase from the air in Russian: "Lee Si Tsen, cover! I - *** Well!" ?

[reservist]

The plane is Polish, but crashed in Russia and the investigation is also underway in Russia.
Are Polish experts not allowed to the wreckage?

[iouris]

Quote: invincible

why do not give debris

Because. Apparently, the new Polish government did not sign an act of investigation into the causes of the crash.

[LeonidL]

Of course, you can try to put pressure on Russia, but only in those who are crushing from such pressure, a parent on the head and hemorrhoids on the ass can jump out.

[volodya]

Interestingly, the crush will not crack?

[LeonidL]

Crack, crack.

[forester]

She will not crack - she will burst))))

[Zubr]

These crush, an urgent need to send an appointment with the therapist ..

[bouncyhunter]

Come on you guys! Antoha’s earth is burning under his feet - he’s already called his agent of the Kremlin, so he splashes with Russophobia that he has a hose.

[MPN]

He has one position left, the head of the Tu-154, he will not have it, everyone is unemployed, he must be kept to the stop ...

[210ox]

This "Antoha" and on his deathbed will repeat about the explosives on the wing .. Or in the stomach .. It is a pity that he was not on this plane.

Quote: bouncyhunter

Come on you guys! Antoha’s earth is burning under his feet - he’s already called his agent of the Kremlin, so he splashes with Russophobia that he has a hose.

[bk316]

Let them conduct an investigative experiment: they’ll take at least a carcass, at least a Boeing, plant a full cabin of their Russophobes, let everyone get drunk and run around the cabin, and try to sit down in the fog and let someone break into the pilots at the landing, shove them in the back and he screamed that he would dismiss or even kill him if they did not immediately sit down.
Let the experiment be repeated until the Russophobes land in Poland or end.
And if all the same they sit down, then let's talk about explosives, but I think Russophobes will end first.

[210ox]

For the sake of such a "show" an impenetrable fog in Smolensk (was a witness that day) we will create ..

Quote: bk316

Let them conduct an investigative experiment: they’ll take at least a carcass, at least a Boeing, plant a full cabin of their Russophobes, let everyone get drunk and run around the cabin, and try to sit down in the fog and let someone break into the pilots at the landing, shove them in the back and he screamed that he would dismiss or even kill him if they did not immediately sit down.
Let the experiment be repeated until the Russophobes land in Poland or end.
And if all the same they sit down, then let's talk about explosives, but I think Russophobes will end first.

[sabakina]

Quote: 210ox

For the sake of such a "show" an impenetrable fog in Smolensk (was a witness that day) we will create ..

Survived! The site has its own shamans, but they can’t save them from moderators! Privet Dim!

[bouncyhunter]

Quote: 210ox

It is a pity that he was not on this plane.

Dim, you won’t get enough of all Russophobes of planes ...

[sabakina]

Pasha! I propose this individual to settle in a hangar with debris and let him study, write a dissertation. Until the end of life.

[Landscaping]

Only through the examination of the IAC in an independent laboratory for the subject of explosives.

[BAI]

if we left the Council of Europe, then his demands for us - on the drum.

[Gagarin77]

Should I give horseradish? Fell with us. We conducted the investigation. If you want to make a monument to the fallen Poles, you can buy the wreckage. We will give the weight of gold.

[sabakina]

Act of investigation? What kind of beast is this? While it was like the "Final Part" ....

[d ^ Amir]

I still have the same question for Poland - compensation for damaged forests when you pay ???? and for the work of people and mechanisms for cleaning, reclamation ???? in dangerous conditions, by the way ... shout yourself that the explosives are on the wing .... and what else was dragged on board and not at all known ... so it’s exclusively with a mark-up for harmfulness and danger !!!

[demo]

In Russia, experts note that as soon as the wreckage falls into the hands of “specialists” from the rank of Matserevich, Polish provocateurs will immediately announce “the discovery of irrefutable evidence of the Kremlin’s hand”.
Sorry.
And which "experts" note this?
There is a procedure for detecting explosives.
Flushes are made from surfaces that could be affected by binary explosives.
The Russian side suggests making analyzes of "all possible sites."
Let the Polish experts conduct an examination. And even if Matsarevich goes to shit, compliance with the requirements of the examination is required.
Did not find traces of explosives? Take the wreckage.
You can also attract other experts. For fidelity.
And there will be no more this nonsense.
And then as a saying - "and I want, and pricks, and the mother does not order."

[Mih1974]

You listed this crap - tell those “pike perch” who claimed that FSB agents pissed into jars of urine of Russian athletes.
There is no "procedure" or "logic, there is a golem collision and show-off to breed suckers. The only answer is" your sign that there was nothing? Go on, go **** !!!

[sabakina]

In my opinion, demo, works as a doctor. For confused "flushing" with "scraping".

[serge siberian]

Quote: Landscaper

Only through the examination of the IAC in an independent laboratory for the subject of explosives.

Yes, no, only on our land let them first take and take samples. After they do the analysis and announce the result.

[senima56]

Panov, but without Europe and the USA you can’t do anything?

[Opera]

And Matserevich was removed ?! Please tell me ... Mdaaa ... there are few real violent people and there are no leaders! This Poles got excited!

[clown]

Observe the order of gentlemen! A lot of things have been hung over Russia .. so as not to regret it later, about such statements .. Oh, wei.

[Mih1974]

Listen, didn’t they stop us? “maybe we’ll bang? Of course we bang, but then” (c). It seems to me that "later" - now it has arrived! There is a need to gasp so that there would only radioactive ashes remain, one hell all this rolls, enough to wait for "June 22, 2.0".

[Ace Tambourine]

Why bang?
It was necessary on the same day to calmly hold a referendum in Pshekia on rice-bonding to Russia and business ...

[ZVS]

Matserevmch’s “crush” has long dried up, and he is going to crush it. Clown Pshekovsky.

[K-50]

Matserevich: Together with Europe and the United States we will press on Russia on the Tu-154

Acne you will press on each other's seat.

[Simon]

Quote: invincible

The plane is Polish, why do not give the wreckage. Strange, it suggests that something is not clean there and hide something.
If everything is clear, then why not transfer the Polish plane to Poland ...

Actually, it was a Soviet-made aircraft and it crashed on Russian soil and the expertise should be carried out by Russian experts, not by the Poles!

[earloop]

Matserevich: “Together with Europe and the USA, we will push Russia along Tu-154.” - Polish “scrap metal” is located in that part of the Russian Federation where the plane crash occurred. Therefore, the aforementioned “scrap metal" from the crashed aircraft refers to material evidence. If after conducting a joint investigation any reasonable questions arose, then this “scrap metal” is very useful for jointly clarifying possible previously undetected circumstances. But this is the lot of Poland and Russia. But the fact that this is a pan, for a long time without any justification in essence, constantly tryndit about someone’s unilateral guilt, the RF is doing the right thing. There will be convincing justifications, then collaboration will be possible. And Matserevich’s attempt to call “adult uncles” from Europe and the USA to unilaterally press Russia, indicates the absence of serious arguments in the Pole. Thus, the trying pole is discriminating both himself and his country. Yes, and draws into this dirty process and "adult uncles from Europe and the United States."

[Oleg Monarchist]

Quote: invincible

The plane is Polish, why do not give the wreckage. Strange, it suggests that something is not clean there and hide something.
If everything is clear, then why not transfer the Polish plane to Poland ...

The plane took off from Warsaw, was preparing for the departure of the Polish secret services .... If there was a bomb, then it could be planted only in Warsaw. Quite possibly, “highly like” it was Matserevich.

[Dormidont]

Once a year, digging out a dead twin and arranging an unbridled orgy on its stinking corpse has become a good Polish tradition

[annodomene]

In-in, only together with Europe and the USA ... Poland has not had its own voice for a long time, it can only fart loudly into a puddle.

[Oleg Vaganov]

Although my sympathies are completely and completely on the side, there is no joy in the fratricidal war in which the Ukrainians were drawn, and I do not feel it.

[Jarserge]

As if the transfer of the wreckage of the ill-fated plane, something will change. A living example of Katyn. Everything, I emphasize all the commissions except Hitler’s, came to the conclusion that the Germans shot the prisoners. All, I emphasize all, independent, private researchers have come to a similar conclusion. The Russian journalist, writer Yuri Mukhin was heard in the Polish Sejm, in fact, they could not argue with the above facts. But the cries continue, they killed killed Russian barbarians !!! How the situation differs from the Tu-154 but in nothing. Killed and all. Where is the evidence? And we know that they are. Where? There is everything. And if you do not believe, then you are Russian. Here is such nonsense of the inflamed Polish mind.

[Dietmar]

Quote: invincible

The plane is Polish, why do not give the wreckage.

Invincible, read an article?

In Russia, experts note that as soon as the wreckage falls into the hands of “specialists” from the category of Matserevich, Polish provocateurs will immediately announce “the discovery of irrefutable evidence of the Kremlin’s hand”. It should be noted that already now Matserevich is voicing a crazy version of the alleged discovery of traces of explosives on the wing. At the same time, the ex-minister claims that the explosives could have hit the wing allegedly during scheduled maintenance of the Tu-154 in Russia.

[Faceless]

As soon as the debris will be at the Poles - we will not find the ends. They will say that the plane crashed due to the fault of Russia, and everything that was earlier was nonsense. And in a year, the entire Western civilized world will be sure that Vladimir Putin personally shot down the plane while controlling the Buk launcher. They already say that the Russian Federation is to blame, but we have a trump card: "Interesting - come see, everything is safe and sound; you can re-analyze anything." At the current international level, even there is no need to prove anything - there are enough accusations. Under such circumstances, even from the point of view of logic, it is impossible to give fragments. About the fact that the norms of the law in this case are on our side, I’m generally silent.