Kiev drives a wedge in relations between Moscow and Minsk

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From year to year, Ukrainian military “experts” never cease to amaze with their ingenuity in attempts to discredit Minsk in the eyes of Moscow. Grief-analysts in the pursuit of a sensation that use fake social networks thrown into social networks a photo echelon with Belarusian chassis in Ukraine, some samples of Ukrainian military equipment will reveal "trace MWTP". Now that's decided news five years ago issue for leakage top secret information.



We are talking about the publication in social networks of the Ukrainian military expert with Belarusian roots Igor Tyshkevich. On its page The author said that the other day, during the transfer of certificates for new radars to the Ukrainian Armed Forces radio engineering brigades, the President of Ukraine Poroshenko “passed over with giblets” that had been kept secret for at least three years. The military expert is referring to the cooperation of the Minsk Wheel Tractor Plant with Ukrainian partners.

In the video from the ceremony, it is clear that the Belarusian-made Volat tractors were used as the chassis for the radar. According to Tyszkiewicz, the Ukrainian manufacturers did not even bother to cut down the MZKT logo on and “add” something like the “Zaporozhye giant”.

Kiev drives a wedge in relations between Moscow and Minsk


Thus, according to the expert, representatives of the SPC “Iskra” made an annoying leak of information, and the press service of President Poroshenko aggravated the situation by posting personnel on the official page of the first person on the social network Facebook.

But, apparently, the expert Tyshkevich does not control the situation, because fact cooperation of the Belarusian MZKT and the Ukrainian NPK Iskra has never concealed any of the parties.

Back in 2013, Belarusian and Ukrainian enterprises participated in the revision of the 80K6 radar of the circular review with the participation of representatives of Tehnosoyuzproyekt LLC and Spetzhnoexport DGZP commissioned by Azerbaijan. In addition, on the official website of the manufacturer NPK Iskra, since last year, information has been posted that the 80K6 radar is based on an all-terrain chassis. MZKT-652720.

According to Igor Tyshkevich, the Belarusian-Ukrainian cooperation is a great irritant for Moscow and, according to the author, after the news about the use of the Minsk dual-purpose chassis in the production of Ukrainian radars in the Kremlin, someone had to choke on the steering wheel and nervously foul. Perhaps this is due to the fact that the potential of the Ukrainian air defense system will increase significantly, and the sky will become more secure.

However, the conclusions are premature: so far only certificates have been handed, and it is not clear when the radar stations themselves will appear in the APU brigades. The serial production of these models should begin only 2019 year. In addition, the three stations, namely the number of certificates transferred to this number, is not enough to "close" the entire Ukrainian sky.

But it’s hard to disagree with Igor Tyshkevich alone. MZKT is indeed one of the six largest global manufacturers of chassis for missile systems and other types of weapons. And despite all the difficulties in diversifying the sales market, the Belarusian manufacturer of wheeled tractors manages to hold leading positions both in the region and in the world.
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  1. +2
    27 June 2018 06: 19
    Indeed, this is how Poroshenko will reach Moscow on Belarusian chassis! recourse
    1. +3
      27 June 2018 11: 53
      As if Lukashenko hadn’t reached The Hague without Moscow.
  2. +7
    27 June 2018 06: 21
    The Baltic states waited for a reversal of freight traffic and Belarus will wait for the Russian Federation to completely switch to KAMAZ ...
    1. +4
      27 June 2018 10: 02
      I think that Belarus understands perfectly well that the Russian Federation in any case will completely switch to KAMAZ and BAZ, this is not even discussed anywhere, there is nothing to talk about. And if they do not understand, then the heads of the MZKT are worthless, with the leaders of the Republic of Belarus and so everything is clear. request
      Probably, with the exception of strategists, Yars and Poplar can stay on the MZKT, since it doesn’t matter what they ride on. After their application, it’s unlikely that anyone will produce something on this beautiful planet somewhere.
      1. avt
        +2
        27 June 2018 11: 53
        Quote: Max Otto
        I think that Belarus understands perfectly well that the Russian Federation in any case will completely switch to KAMAZ and BAZ,

        After years of graters and kiddies? Well now, yes. Realistically already
        Quote: Max Otto
        there’s nothing to even talk about
        Kogotin will not give up the market, in vain whether he was the head of the campaign headquarters of the GDP. bully

        Quote: Max Otto
        And if they don’t understand, then the heads of the MZKT are worthless, with the leaders of the Republic of Belarus

        But these are generally different levels, if not planets at all .... yes, just Butska decided that he was just losing his balance, and the rest revolve around him like satellites. In general, the MZKT leadership perfectly understood and understands the situation, and even agreed at its level about the “asset swap" the last time it was with KAMAZ - Rostec. BUT .... Btska personally gave them and this is on YouTube - look for markets, there is nothing to think about selling. "So it was. By the way! In the suburbs of Tonar, the Chinese began quietly scooping mining dump trucks with the Chinese, this is after trailers. And already reached 40 tons. request
        Quote: Max Otto
        Probably with the exception of strategists,

        Yes, there’s already a metal sample of the platform ,, O ”already in the metal, so in fact there is something to bring to mind, until you stop on what you are driving now.
    2. MPN
      +5
      27 June 2018 11: 58
      Quote: zulusuluz
      The Baltic states waited for a reversal of cargo flow and the Republic of Belarus will wait for the Russian Federation to completely switch to KAMAZ.

      And what is the problem actually? Someone forbade something to sell to Ukraine? Would Ukraine buy KAMAZ would be delivered ... Yes, we have plans to transfer all military equipment to a domestic base, this is desirable for any state and there is in no way a desire to force or belittle the Republic of Belarus. As for non-military equipment, here the role is played by commercial preferences, then the price / quality. Yes, and in the military sphere, in the near future I do not see a worthy replacement for MZKT products. in certain sectors.
    3. +1
      27 June 2018 13: 04
      Quote: zulusuluz
      completely switch to KAMAZ ...

      KamAZ does nothing of the kind. We had a Kurgan wheeled tractor plant. He was stolen by "effective" managers.
  3. +12
    27 June 2018 07: 14
    Ukraine does not need to try to drive a wedge between Moscow and Minsk. From time to time, Lukashenko copes well with this.
    1. +12
      27 June 2018 08: 14
      Quote: rotmistr60
      From time to time, Lukashenko copes well with this.

      Moscow acts with no less efficiency. 8)))
      For example, with regard to the MZKT: first, it is unsuccessful to announce the beginning of actions to phase out its products, then try to “squeeze” it. Well, now begin to whine about the reorientation of the MZKT to other customers. Apparently, many consider the closure of the enterprise due to the lack of orders as a friendly step on the part of Belarus 8)))
      1. +3
        27 June 2018 11: 13
        So ... the huckster oligarchs have been trying to get his hands on it for a long time! But .... this piece is not given to them in their hands)))
        1. +5
          27 June 2018 12: 02
          Quote: cenzor1966
          So ... the huckster oligarchs have been trying to get his hands on it for a long time!

          Unfortunately, no hucksters. This is a state office. Which for some reason put its income in priority over the interests of the state.
      2. +2
        27 June 2018 11: 14
        Quote: Spade
        Apparently, many consider the closure of the enterprise due to the lack of orders as a friendly step on the part of Belarus 8)))

        A friendly step was the abstraction and defeat of the KZKT and to the noise and base.
        1. +7
          27 June 2018 11: 46
          Exactly...
          The machine has not yet been developed, and the MZKT and BAZ began to spread rot in advance. Fortunately, both of them got out. Some went under the wing of Almaz-Antey, others reoriented themselves to other customers, most likely China in the first place.
      3. +4
        27 June 2018 11: 19
        Quote: Spade
        For example, with regard to the MZKT: first, it is unsuccessful to announce the beginning of actions to phase out its products, then try to “squeeze” it.

        With what fright to give a good market to competitors? Correctly stated. Do not want to cooperate, do not give a share of the shares - we will compete.
        Quote: Spade
        Well, now begin to whine about the reorientation of the MZKT to other customers.

        Let them reorient. Flag in hand.
        Quote: Spade
        . Apparently, many consider the closure of the enterprise due to the lack of orders as a friendly step on the part of Belarus 8)))

        Such friends for the trunk ... KAMAZ and Maz (MZKT) are objectively competitors. Therefore, they will choke each other. I won’t be surprised if they shut down the supply of components ...
        1. +4
          27 June 2018 11: 59
          Quote: Winnie76
          With what fright to give a good market to competitors?

          Competitors?
          Is Platform O ready for production?
          There is no smell of competition here, the stupid lobbying of one’s own interests, from which it was not the MZKT that suffered the most, but the Bryansk Plant, which, by the way, back in 2008, was forced to completely stop financing R&D in the interests of the military.
          And here is the result of "competition":

          regularly appearing on the web photos of capsized "Carapace". And by the way, on the go, he can’t shoot from cannons. Only rockets. On the chassis, the BAZ could. But "competition" ....

          Quote: Winnie76
          Let them reorient. Flag in hand.

          And why then whining and presenting it as an "unfriendly step"?

          Quote: Winnie76
          Such friends for the trunk ... KAMAZ and Maz (MZKT) are objectively competitors.

          They are not competitors. KamAZ currently has nothing to offer. Except for exhibition samples.
          That is why the MZKT was so eager to overcome.
          1. +2
            27 June 2018 14: 06
            Quote: Spade
            regularly appearing on the web photos of capsized "Carapace". And by the way, on the go, he can’t shoot from cannons. Only rockets.

            And this happens solely because everyone strongly confuses the "carapace" with the "Tunguska" and demands from the country's air defense forces the functionality of the military air defense systems. smile
            The "shell" was originally made for the air defense forces - for close cover of civilian and military installations. That is, his task was to cover fixed targets, work from pre-equipped positions in pre-prepared areas. And now they demand the full functionality of military air defense — covering columns with the possibility of firing in motion. belay
            1. +1
              27 June 2018 14: 23
              Quote: Alexey RA
              And now they demand the full functionality of military air defense - covering columns with the possibility of firing in motion

              Then why didn’t Tunguska continue to be produced, upgrading it to the required level?
              Who and why pokes into the troops that is not entirely operational, or does not fit the required task?
              1. -1
                29 June 2018 21: 44
                you do not understand the campaign difference between the military air defense and missile defense.
                Tunguska, shilka and TP pines are machines created according to the TK of experienced troops - the task is to cover armored vehicles both on the march, in the parking lot and in position.
                The task of air defense systems is to protect an object or territory - that is, the complex is designed for a stationary location. How to protect an air defense system from being destroyed by missile weapons from the air is simple: an air defense system — that is, apart from shells (near radius systems), 300-s400 (long-range) systems are used that can intercept the WTO carriers themselves, which can hit air defense systems.
                In the ground forces there is no shell, at least there is no whelping at all and never will be. Although the ground forces have 300 and it is quite possible for them to be equipped with full functionality, they can acquire shells.
                1. 0
                  30 June 2018 20: 20
                  [quote = Yarhann] you march do not understand the difference between military air defense and missile defense. [quote]
                  It seems you yourself did not understand what you are writing.
                  I asked a question, is there a Tunguska-military air defense system, why they shove Armor instead of Tunguska into the troops.
                  And I know everything else, the level of knowledge is sufficient.
            2. +4
              27 June 2018 15: 02
              Quote: Alexey RA
              work from pre-equipped positions in pre-prepared areas.

              I’m afraid that modern means of destruction do not even allow air defense to settle down in stationary positions.
              1. +1
                27 June 2018 15: 08
                Quote: Spade
                I’m afraid that modern means of destruction do not even allow air defense to settle down in stationary positions.

                Nothing prevents equipping several positions. Even in Soviet times, the C-75 in the Reshetnikovo had at least 3 prepared positions (those that were identified by satellite imagery).
                In any case, the main type of work for the "shell" is fire from the stop.
                1. +3
                  27 June 2018 15: 19
                  Quote: Alexey RA
                  Nothing prevents equipping several positions

                  No problem. And it’s better to move between them without capsizing.

                  And ideally, of course, this should be a route, not stationary positions.
                  1. -1
                    29 June 2018 21: 49
                    constantly moving air defense systems are airplanes of the mig31 type, or other hawks with the support of airborne early warning aircraft. There is no reason to ride stationary complexes of the type with 300-s400, they will see the carrier of the WTO much earlier than he sees them or a camouflaged armored vehicle in disguise.
                    Do not forget that the anti-aircraft defense system of the near field, such as the Pantsir complex, when operating in the echelon with long-range complexes, will essentially play the role of a launcher - because its radar cannot in any way be compared to 400 - it does not make sense to turn it on, but missile launches from 400 with a shell can well.
      4. +2
        27 June 2018 14: 19
        I'm afraid you do not quite understand the situation. We have a little different arrangement. Switching to your chassis is a must. Trying to buy a business is just a business. Do not bind one to the other.
        1. +3
          27 June 2018 15: 03
          Quote: cariperpaint
          Switching to your chassis is a must.

          Bryansk is Russia. If I haven't missed anything yet.
  4. +4
    27 June 2018 08: 23
    in the Kremlin, someone had to choke on a steering wheel and swear nervously
    In the Kremlin, it was high time to recognize that the project called the Union State of Russia and Belarus turned out to be stillborn and serves only for the relatively comfortable existence of the apparatus of its officials.
  5. +2
    27 June 2018 08: 29
    It is interesting, if the contract was concluded before the Maidan, how to violate it, so as not to incur reputation losses upon termination.
    And those who understand the question, how much the level of "power" of the radar depends on the chassis?)))
    1. +1
      27 June 2018 08: 40
      Darkesstcat (Cat) Today, 08:29 "reputation losses"
      Where is She - a reputation ??
      Smorim .. "Export of apples from Belarus to the Russian Federation five times exceeded the harvest
      Correspondent.net, September 29, 2016, 15:17 pm "Give a link to the article ?? And what about your reputation ..
      1. +3
        27 June 2018 08: 48
        And while no one in Russia is itching, we would like to have banned shrimps, salmon, and apples for a long time.
        You can not compare the arms market and simple trade.
      2. +3
        27 June 2018 11: 16
        And the hucksters holding the market in Moscow have nothing to do with it? Yes, these bastards Churkestans in Minsk hang around and try to find suckers for a penny)))
  6. 0
    27 June 2018 11: 56
    Some kind of nonsense .. And the article and the news ...
  7. 0
    27 June 2018 12: 01
    Conclusion: the question must be closed before 2019.
  8. 0
    27 June 2018 18: 27
    Well, I don’t know, I don’t know, I don’t know ...
    author -> author -> author, what are you talking about ??? ..! Having a chassis based on the MZKT, do you own the world? Yes, don’t tell my horseshoes. Maybe Russia needs wheel tractors, but .... everyone knows that maskals are buying them so that MAZ would not be completely dead.
    Why is it ??? fat to Europe ???
    Just another article for the sake of pumping ....
    1) what will happen if Ukraine ...
    2). and what will happen if Belarus ???
    3) - what will happen if Russia ... ??? ...
    Ah, let's dream about what might happen if my tribes from Russia, brother-in-law from Ukraine, relatives of Belarus, and the tractor of the MZKT come to the ... Moon, and half of the world’s imperialism will come ...
  9. 0
    10 July 2018 16: 34
    Belarus lives and looks at how they live in the Baltic countries, where the population is comparable to the Belarusian. Therefore, Belarus may be in NATO before Ukraine. Such here "Operation Bagration" vice versa. It would be possible to say about this in Russia in the words of the leading Soviet television program "Man and the Law": "And drunkenness is to blame!" Now all that’s left is that we’ll "see" Belarus there.

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