In Russia, returned to the consideration of the project of Academician Sakharov

In Russia, they returned to the consideration of the project of Academician Andrei Sakharov on the creation of a super-power torpedo with a nuclear warhead. This was reported by one of the creators of the torpedo weapons in the Russian Federation Shamil Aliyev in an interview with RIA News.

Responding to questions from a journalist, he said that at present there is a tendency to return to ideas and projects that had not been realized for various reasons. Including re-considering the project of Academician Sakharov to create a torpedo with a length of 24 meters, a diameter of one and a half meters with a nuclear warhead and 50 kilometers of kilometers. He recalled that the task of such torpedoes, according to Sakharov, was to destroy objects on the coast with the help of an explosion in water. At the same time, Shamil Aliyev noted that the implementation of this idea in the Soviet Union failed not because of “bad work”, but because of the banal lack of money for its development.

Aliyev also spoke about the implementation of the marine drone "Poseidon", where its cruising range can reach gigantic distances with the help of a nuclear propulsion system.

At the end of his interview, Aliyev recalled that all types of weapons that Vladimir Putin spoke about in his message to the Federal Assembly are real and exist. He noted that not a single intelligence agency of the world could disprove the presence of new weapons in Russia.

But when Russia speaks about weapons, the whole world knows perfectly well that Russia can do it. Syria confirmation

- RIA Novosti quotes the words of Shamil Aliyev.

Comments

[Magic archer]

So under such a torpedo and a boat of a special project is needed ... The point is to develop such a monster if there is no carrier ?! Strange information

[cost]

in the USSR it was planned to use aviation as a carrier

[hrych]

Quote: Rich

in the USSR it was planned to use aviation as a carrier

Why not dump her from Ruslan now. You can still return to the topic of ekranoplan.
At present, 4 nuclear-powered submarines are suitable for this topic: Moscow Region (converted Dolphin), Orenburg (converted Kalmar), Belgorod and Khabarovsk are still on the way (such as converted Antei, Belgorod for sure). But the most important thing is that with a nuclear warhead and an unlimited range, a carrier is optional, it will go under its own power, if necessary, a kind of intercontinental torpedo.

[Going]

Something annoying in this news, some kind of stuffing and it is not clear why.

[Conductor]

Yes, the flood is clean. Put the torpedo in 24 meters.

[hrych]

Quote: Conductor

Put the torpedo in 24 meters.

Do not insert, but attach to the media body

[contact with]

Torpedo bomber can avia can external mount under. boats. There would be a toy and how to deliver is not a problem.

[contact with]

At school it was necessary to teach the letter and not to smoke then I would know

[flicker]

Quote: Going

Something annoying in this news, some kind of stuffing and it is not clear why.

The news of Sakhorov’s return to the project is presented in the form of opposition to a project called Poseidon, casting doubt on what Putin voiced. Like, what's the point in Sakharov’s project, if there is Poseidon.

[Ivan Ivanov]

"This was announced by one of the creators of torpedo weapons in the Russian Federation, Shamil Aliyev," too specifically for the stuffing.

[voyaka uh]

You can still train a flock of crane cranes (there is experience, and at the highest level!)
to connect them with such a network and send them to America with a suspended atomic bomb.
Americans see: "birds! ... conservation ... let them fly."
And all of a sudden - how it’s sinking !!!

[hrych]

Quote: voyaka uh

to train a flock of crane cranes

Why Siberian Cranes, we have some flying trained women, we’ll pick them up, but instead of America they can migrate to you for obvious reasons, like Siberian Cranes

[voyaka uh]

"Why Siberian Cranes, we have some flying trained women" //

Are you talking about Zakharov? She has already flown to America.
I saw pictures she posted on social networks: in New York in Manhattan, near the famous expensive department store. In beautiful stylish clothes.
It looked great having rested, it’s clear that she’s happy ...

[hrych]

No that Jackal Carlos painted, oh Chagall Marcos

[sapporo1959]

Apparently she was still there on assignment? I watched when the dollar starts to fall or put marks where we will beat with daggers if they fly ...

[avia1991]

Quote: sapporo1959

where we will beat with daggers if they fly.

Do not worry about flying in: at least Caliber in Syria has proven that our missiles can fly. And as for the “we will beat” - this is WE WILL, and not you, do not worry like that.

As for the topic - I think this is not a fake:

currently there is a tendency to return to previously unrealized ideas and projects for various reasons.

Just now, with the advent of new technologies, it has become more realistic to implement this idea, significantly improving the initial characteristics: smaller dimensions, more range and power, the use of other delivery vehicles, etc. Well .. and "partners" to troll between things. To reduce arrogance Therefore, this "stuffing" is allowed.

[sapporo1959]

I don’t worry! This is all here with the caliber, all rushing about like crazy, but I just noted that how are we going to hit America if our mission is there? So without leadership we will remain! And who then kneels you ...?

[Nyrobsky]

Quote: voyaka uh

Are you talking about Zakharov? She has already flown to America.
I saw pictures she posted on social networks: in New York in Manhattan, near the famous expensive department store. In beautiful stylish clothes. She looked great, rested, it’s clear that she’s happy

Would you like Masha to be in a sweatshirt and a bag of bagels around her neck? Would that fit your perception of a senior Russian official? No dear, our aunts should, are simply obliged to be dressed up and looking happy because represent Russia. Not that there was a certain American “scarecrow” like Vicki Nuland in a raspberry-colored down jacket and a string of cookies in the middle of a square of plebs. Which country, such a representative.

[sapporo1959]

Masha in a raspberry-colored suit is certainly good, but it would be possible to send a couple of pensioners happy on boats and kayaks ... To scare so to scare!

[Krasnodar]

Quote: hrych

Quote: voyaka uh

to train a flock of crane cranes

Why Siberian Cranes, we have some flying trained women, we’ll pick them up, but instead of America they can migrate to you for obvious reasons, like Siberian Cranes

+ for Chagall! )))

[Vasyan1971]

[quote = voyaka uh] You can also train a flock of Siberian Cranes (there is experience, and at the highest level!)
to connect them with such a network and send them to America with a suspended atomic bomb.
Americans see: "birds! ... conservation ... let them fly."
And all of a sudden - how it smells !!! [/ quote]
Trolling counted. We must offer this idea to Iran: "The Israelis see:" birds! ... conservation ... let them fly. "
And all of a sudden - how it smells !!! [/ quote]

[faiver]

and they will send Harry a loss on a broomstick in response?

[bolt]

Quote: voyaka uh

You can still train a flock of crane cranes ...
... connect them with such a network and send them to America with a suspended atomic bomb.
Americans see: "birds! ... conservation ... let them fly."
And all of a sudden - how it’s sinking !!!

Warrior! Wow !!! What, another "ornithologist" ...?

And what if, without any "cranes", but by simple e-mail, and not an atomic bomb, but ... Your comment is not abstract "to America," specifically to Congress and the NSA. Together with your nickname and flag? It will be easier and cheaper.

To remind them that in addition to the term "American aid", the concept of "Jewish gratitude" exists in the world.

And "suddenly - how is it?" How do you like this "humor"?

And you can also - to the Knesset. To imagine how their fellow citizens frolic on other people's sites in the difficult foreign policy situation around Israel ...

And you can even closer - to the Administration ... no, no, well, what are you ... To the Administration of this site. Interestingly, how do they relate to calls not to "national isolation", but to inciting ... a nuclear conflict? Israelis !!! Against the USA !!!

[Normal ok]

Quote: hrych

Why not dump her from Ruslan now

Because Ruslan is a very good target. And the meaning of launching a torpedo from a submarine is in secrecy.

[ZVO]

Quote: Normal ok

Quote: hrych

Why not dump her from Ruslan now

Because Ruslan is a very good target. And the meaning of launching a torpedo from a submarine is in secrecy.

What is the secrecy of such a specific carrier, such a specific torpedo?
Yes, he will not be given a chance to leave the base ...
GAS will be in the active mode hrenachat immediately, that would not even try to hide.
They are depth bombs all possible ways in international waters toss.
But the Horseman of the Apocalypse - no one will calmly leave the base.

[hrych]

You underestimate the size of the ocean and the capabilities of the enemy fleet. The Argentine boat was lost and, knowing where it disappeared, they could not find it. Also, the submarines, just giant ships and calmly go to their own patrol zone, invisible. And here is such a minuscule.

[ZVO]

Quote: hrych

You underestimate the size of the ocean and the capabilities of the enemy fleet. The Argentine boat was lost and, knowing where it disappeared, they could not find it. Also, the submarines, just giant ships and calmly go to their own patrol zone, invisible. And here is such a minuscule.

Again.
She will not be released from the base. She will still be based somewhere. In Deer Lip? Well, they will lead three, five, ten, ten, but twenty - but they will not give a chance to go unnoticed. They will bring all of their Marietta and other RTR funds, but they will not let go unnoticed.

And the Argentinean submarine - no one needed. Nobody knows where she is or how she is.
Incomparable things.

[flicker]

They are depth bombs all possible ways in international waters toss.

And a good idea, it is necessary to offer her geldings ... I can imagine how many "Ohio" belly will float up we don’t even have to do anything else.

[Magic archer]

The plane is clearly irrelevant. Too far. It just will not be allowed to fly so close. So the version with the aircraft carrier is too fantastic

[hrych]

Quote: Magic Archer

The plane is clearly irrelevant. Too far. It just will not be allowed to fly so close. So the version with the aircraft carrier is too fantastic

Why would he fly far, there the YaSU of unlimited range will bring it to the right place, and there under its own power.

[Romka47]

Yes, you’re right then, in the USSR, you also planned to build a carrier, a sort of nuclear submarine for one torpedo. Well, maybe now modern nuclear submarines and on the "external sling" will be able to drag it to the shore of the enemy.

[san4es]

Quote: Magic Archer

So under such a torpedo and a boat of a special project is needed ..

In the USSR, under such needs, it was planned to use the underwater "object 627"

Initially, the main task of the experimental submarine of the 627 project with a giant T-15 electric torpedo caliber 1550 of millimeters using a thermonuclear charge was to strike the coastal areas of a potential enemy. For this purpose, the installation of one large torpedo T-15, carrying a charge of enormous power, was planned for the submarine; the torpedo tube length was more than 22 percent of the total length of the boat.

The nuclear torpedo T-15 was intended to strike naval bases, ports and other coastal objects, including cities where a powerful sea and shock wave, other factors of a nuclear explosion were supposed to cause irreparable damage to the military and civilian infrastructure of a potential enemy, that is, America.

On the new underwater "object 627" leadership made great bets. At that time, there were no atomic charges in dimensions acceptable for conventional torpedoes and intercontinental missiles capable of delivering atomic charges over long distances and keeping a potential enemy at bay.

[Vanek]

Quote: san4es

for such needs

And if I understood correctly, because of the small defensive weapons. In my opinion, two feed. And those are charged. The project was abandoned in the navy.

[san4es]

Quote: Vanek

The project was abandoned in the navy.

... Deprecated ... Exhausted

http://armedman.ru/korabli/1946-1960-korabli/atom
nyie-podvodnyie-lodki-proekta-627-kit.html

[Yrec]

Torpedo range - up to 50 km. Does the carrier come under its own blow?

[Genry]

Quote: Yrec

Torpedo range - up to 50 km. Does the carrier come under its own blow?

Why...?
Range is nothing. Time can be anything.

[Vanek]

Quote: Yrec

Torpedo range - up to 50 km. Does the carrier come under its own blow?

This is the last hello. In the case of the application of this project, it does not matter. Own a blow, a stranger ...

The key word is deliver.

[Dr_engie]

Ahah, since when? Forgot the radius of destruction of nuclear weapons? Few kilometers. And you continue to believe in the nuclear apocalypse and that the missiles will save us (no).

[hrych]

Quote: Dr_Engie

Forgot the radius of destruction of nuclear weapons? Few kilometers.

AhAhAh, what illiterate little believers we are, the diameter of the fireball of the Tsar bomb was 10 km, the diameter of the zone of continuous destruction was 70 km. Over 100 km people got burns. And this is a twice reduced charge from 100 to 50 megatons.

[serg.shishkov2015]

In the city media it was written about 70 megatons, Greetings from Sarov! Proud of your city!

[hrych]

First, naturally true data is a mystery. However, they say that the explosion exceeded the calculated data from 50-51 megatons to 57-58 (a joke of 8 megatons). Accordingly, the estimated 100 could exceed 15-30 megatons. They encountered the unknown here, of course, it is impossible to evaluate the data of the explosion for science, and it is fraught to continue the tests. They themselves were scared. However, it was then that our scientists, having won the nuclear race (in terms of quality), continue to lead and possess these unique data. Therefore, they say that we possess fifth-generation nuclear weapons, although the United States is content with only the third. Namely, the "puff" and precisely the "Tsar bomb" are the reason.

[sapporo1959]

How symbolic of 70 megatons and 70 years of retirement! I hope that the workers of Sarov will really receive this good news with great and great enthusiasm ...?

[serg.shishkov2015]

I have no idea! I am a modest worker of the Russian Post!

[serg.shishkov2015]

I will clarify, there is the RFNC-VNIIEF and there are all the rest! these are two different planets!

[TAMBU]

yes ... they forgot ... but these few kilometers are visible on Hiroshima ... so it was an “explosion pack” compared to modern warheads ...

[Alexander Romanov]

Quote: Magic Archer

The point is to develop such a monster if there is no carrier?! Strange information

Attached to the airplane and thrown off in FIG.

[lis-ik]

Quote: Magic Archer

So under such a torpedo and a boat of a special project is needed ... The point is to develop such a monster if there is no carrier ?! Strange information

We don’t know anything about special purpose boats (experimental), they definitely are and FIG knows what they are designed for.

[Maz]

Lies, Israel makes the best weapon! He even torpedoes can stand still like helicopters, stop, sail back and park again in the torpedo tube of a submarine, as kamikaze drones soar in the abyss of water looking for prey. Sakharov, he came up with such an aggregate

[venik]

Quote: Magic Archer

The point is to develop such a monster if there is no carrier ?!

======
There is! There is!!!!

[Totah155]

And then what to use?
Jetophones instead of iPhones and Elbrus instead of Intel / AMD?

[Victor March 47]

Quote: Magic Archer

So under such a torpedo and a boat of a special project is needed ... The point is to develop such a monster if there is no carrier ?! Strange information

Wouldn’t the most harmless seiner with a modernized bottom be able to throw it into the water? Recharge is not required, the effect of a single launch will be stunning. Inspecting, including the underwater part, the most numerous pieces of iron under different flags and throughout the coast of this island is not realistic in principle.

[Mountain shooter]

Why make such a convenience when Poseidon is available? Fake news ...

[Victor March 47]

Quote: Mountain Shooter

Why make such a convenience when Poseidon is available? Fake news ...

Best the enemy of the good.

[MPN]

Aliyev also spoke about the implementation of the Poseidon marine drones project, where its cruising range can be of giant distances using a nuclear propulsion system.

It would be more interesting to read, and a nuclear torpedo with a range of 50km is about nothing ...

[Mih1974]

It was Sakharov’s range (estimated) of 50 km, but who showed you that now she will have the same with new technologies? Actually, the difference from the Paseidon is only in the presence of a boat, that is, you can be on duty in a certain area and bam - we release and try to escape from the blast wave, and the Poseidon is all so deaf and rushing along the course. It's like now with UAVs - why aren’t they planning for nuclear weapons? Yes, because they are "stupid" any fighter can bring them down in packs, and not even rockets but ordinary cannons
Again, the Paseidons will obviously be hiding in our ports, which means that the Merikas need to build a “defense” on the way out of their places of deployment. Whereas a boat with a Sakharov torpedo can be sent at any time to hell, and America will have to guard ALL of our boats with a margin. Moreover, if in theory they build a missile defense system, then from such torpedoes (if they do not have time to destroy our boats before launching), there is no protection at all . For if I understand correctly, there is no way to catch someone else’s torpedo with my anti-torpedo (if they exist at all).

[MPN]

Quote: Mih1974

For if I understand correctly, there is no way to catch someone else’s torpedo with my anti-torpedo (if they

There is no need to catch up, the task is to intercept, and at what directional angle it doesn’t matter, the option of intercepting a missile is possible when anti-theotropes are brought down and waiting for a target in the affected area ..., there are many options ... But it makes sense to launch a torpedo, even on 500 km range and make a carrier for this, which will approach the launch zone, when with no less success you can shoot the same Mace and do not need to invent the carriers and build, everything already exists ... Sakharov tried to solve the issue of the delivery of ammunition, then the missiles are weak were ...

[Mih1974]

Read carefully - there is at least some missile defense and it’s clear where to “cut” it longer, but if you miss the launch of such a torpedo and don’t know where the hell they will bring from, then this is not for you. The atmosphere here and the “radars” are all very bad.

[MPN]

Even so, I’m just remembering the Caribbean crisis, they didn’t let our submarines go there, but this hour did not make it to the coast ... I think the delivery will cost a little ... Well, this is my speculation, I think it will be more efficient to spend five missiles.

[ZVO]

Quote: Mih1974

Read carefully - there is at least some missile defense and it’s clear where to “cut” it longer, but if you miss the launch of such a torpedo and don’t know where the hell they will bring from, then this is not for you. The atmosphere here and the “radars” are all very bad.

But PLO is beautiful ...
And carriers of such torpedoes will be 1-2. and their exit from the base will not go unnoticed. And no one will give the bearer of such torpedoes a chance to escape from Russian thervods.
They will deliberately fight, they will take risks - but the Americans will not allow such boats to sail calmly into the sea.

[Piramidon]

I am a patriot, but not enough to believe the whole Internet.

[fridge]

Apparently it's time to do the Stalin Strait between Canada and Mexico!)))

[Lynx33]

Half of Canada can also be grabbed, so, for prevention.

[Dr_engie]

You can immediately see healthy and adequate people, yeah. Such people should not be allowed to go to the polls, as well as to leading posts and teaching posts.

[Romka47]

"Shamil Aliyev noted that the implementation of this idea in the Soviet Union failed not because of" bad work ", but because of the banal lack of money for its development." As far as I remember, they refused him because at that time they considered this weapon too cruel. For the destruction of, for example, a naval base or port, at the same time the message of the state was washed away with the entire population.

[ZVO]

Quote: Romka47

For the destruction of, for example, a naval base or port, at the same time the message of the state was washed away with the entire population.

Nothing was washed away there.

The weapon is extremely stupid.
The destructive effect is minimal.
The main effect is pollution.
But.
The Gulf Stream will bring all the radiation to us to the north in 2 weeks.
And the rains formed and coming to us from North-Western Europe will destroy all life in European Russia.
Here is the only result of such a torpedo.
It will only make us worse.
Do not undermine anything in the water where the Gulf Stream.

[voyaka uh]

I'll tell you the wunderwaffe :
1) a nuclear hydrogen mine, an agent disguised
a plumber laying right under the Pentagon.
2) earth moving machine with a nuclear warhead.
Digging, digging slowly and digging under America.
3) Airship (with a nuclear bomb, of course),
disguised as a thundercloud.

[Stirbjorn]

And "not a single intelligence agency in the world can refute the existence of such weapons"

[Lynx33]

What bloodthirsty people are you? And a nuclear cloud is a bust. When used correctly, an ordinary cloud will do business ...

[Non liberoid Russian]

one torpedo is enough for you to wander into the wilderness again ... if Moses is found, of course

[Alexander Romanov]

Quote: voyaka uh

2) earth moving machine with a nuclear warhead.
Digging, digging slowly and digging under America.

Israel has allowed smoking marijuana. First went

[voyaka uh]

Grass is not grass, but drank beer in a restaurant
at lunchtime. Here's a little thought and went ...

[Vanek]

Quote: voyaka uh

beer drank in a restaurant
at lunchtime

I don’t care who you are, who you work with, etc.

Beer? At lunch?

you atas just ...

At lunch plump

[voyaka uh]

You've probably never been to Paris?
There everyone (and every day!) At a lunch break (1.5 hours) drinks
a bottle of 0.5 red.
And I only occasionally 0.3 lager any.

[Vanek]

Quote: voyaka uh

0.3 lager

Who cares?

I don’t need the Turkish coast.

I don’t care in Altai.

And I am like that. Shorts, t-shirt. Slates. On fig * me your Miami when I get hurt here too *

At lunch, plump ....

[san4es]

Quote: Vanek

... you atas just ...

At lunch plump

Summer .. Fiesta ... Football (in an hour)

[Vanek]

They have Shabbat Shmabats there, and normal people have Monday.

It is necessary to work, and not to thump at lunch.

[Alexander Romanov]

Quote: voyaka uh

Grass is not grass

C'mon, shy then

Quote: voyaka uh

Here is a little thought and went

DUMKA or SMOKE? Drinking beer could not lead to prostration of thought

[voyaka uh]

We have, alas, not the beauty of California ...
And to prostration (more precisely, prosration ) thoughts brought the article itself.

[Alexander Romanov]

Quote: voyaka uh

So far, alas, we are not the beauty of California.

And if you blow another jamb?

Quote: voyaka uh

thoughts brought the article itself.

The article leads the thought You are it, hold on and hold your thoughts, and then only lunch

[Vanek]

They have a saying.

Better envy than sympathize.

Kartsev, Deficit.

No one has. You have.*

Alexander

[Igool]

Quote: voyaka uh

2) earth moving machine with a nuclear warhead.
Digging, digging slowly and digging under America.

After which all of America falls into a dug hole?

[Zubr]

You have a good sense of humor..

[Mih1974]

Such ? If you need to paint a cloud, it’s no problem. )))

[Vanek]

And Winnie the Pooh on the rope.

And that would be a cloud song throat.

How much fear will endure.

[flicker]

I'll tell you the wunderwaffe

Netanyahu? Often flies to Russia from Russia

[Antidote]

There was no money for development in the Soviet Union, and is modern Russia so rich that it was found? It smacks of something yellow.

[san4es]

In Russia, returned to the consideration of the project of Academician Sakharov

T-15 - a project of the military industry of the USSR of the 1940s - 1950s to create a giant torpedo carrying a thermonuclear charge to the shores of the United States.
Torpedo length - 24 meters
The diameter of the torpedo - 1,5 meters
Estimated torpedo weight - 40 tons
Thermonuclear charge ~ 100 megatons
An explosion under water would generate a tsunami wave 300 meters high, which would wash away all coastal cities. In 1954, Khrushchev abandoned this project. A charge of 100 megatons was decided to be used for other purposes - in October 1961, the Tsar bomb bombed with a warhead of about 57 megatons at the Novaya Zemlya firing range (which is slightly more than half the power of the T-15 torpedo).
The idea of ​​T-15 by some authors is attributed to Andrei Dmitrievich Sakharov, based on the following quote from his memoirs: “Rear Admiral Fomin was one of the first with whom I discussed this project ... He was shocked by the cannibalistic nature of the project and noticed in conversation with me that naval sailors are accustomed to fighting an armed enemy in open battle and that the very idea of ​​such a massacre is disgusting to him. "
- A. Sakharov “The Cosmic World”: TSAR-TORPEDA
Pre-sketch development was carried out in 1949-1953. At that time, the USSR submarine fleet did not have the ability to carry ballistic missiles, so torpedoes were considered a promising carrier of nuclear weapons. The first Soviet submarine with a nuclear power plant should have been equipped with a torpedo (project 627, led by Vladimir Nikolaevich Peregudov)
https://raigap.livejournal.com/181946.html

[Chicha squad]

Well, about the T-15 and they said when they mentioned the Status of Poseidon

[A. Privalov]

... the implementation of this idea in the Soviet Union failed not because of "poor performance", but because of the banal lack of money for its development.

And now, quite unexpectedly, they appeared, and in terrible numbers there is simply nowhere else to go. Did I understand Mr. Aliyev correctly? Oh well...
On the one hand: "There is no money, but you hold on," and on the other - some kind of monstrous project to restore. Well, like little children!

[Zubr]

Why this nonsense? Nafik need it? Is the Strategic Missile Forces really small? Again a hundred sheets of a thigh shake?

[high]

when Russia talks about weapons, the whole world knows very well that Russia knows how to make it. Syria confirms this
Apparently, I missed: what unusual weapons did Russia use in Syria?

[IXION]

They refused the torpedo not because of a lack of funding, but because when Sakharov expressed his idea to an admiral, he answered that there would be many casualties among the civilian population, and the Soviet army was not fighting the civilian population.
Sakharov no longer returned to this idea.

[tlauicol]

Aliyev likes on Instagram or something to earn? fierce nonsense ..

[Paul 1]

former nuclear physicist talks about status 6
particularly interesting and relevant topics start at 3:20

[hrych]

What a dirty and stinky mold What kind of authority from the gateway, is the Supreme overthrown Enough of these fake guns to post here.

[Paul 1]

https://www.ieac.ru/about/structure/boyarshinov_b
.html

[hrych]

The most stupid and unnecessary are mathematicians. Type Perelman, who solved the problem of the century (Poincare’s hypothesis), which has no practical value, then no one needs at all And this subject worked at the Moscow State University named after Sholokhov (humanitarian university) and even dares to touch Sakhorov, the merits to world progress are undeniable

[Paul 1]

Mathematician is then. In general, under the USSR, he rose to the post of deputy general designer. By education a nuclear scientist. But he worked on a missile profile, not a nuclear one.

[hrych]

Duc

Boris Sergeevich continues his scientific work in the field of mathematics in economic research. For example, analysis of exchange rate fluctuations, matrix models in the economy.

The theorist, without practice, puts his math into economics. In general, not a serious subject.

[Paul 1]

you better criticize reasonably. What he was wrong with numbers and facts. It will be interesting at least

[hrych]

Quote: Paul 1

What he was wrong with numbers and facts

It was enough for me, like this subject, to poach on Stalin, poop on the nuclear scientists, who were already ahead of the Manhattan then, making not the thermonuclear device of Teller, the size of a three-story building, but the real thermonuclear ammunition. Well, the Tsar bomb, which didn’t hit the whole world, so that some loser would raise its ratings with talkers. Sakharov’s political views can be treated as you like, but his achievements are not in doubt by anyone. This is enough to not take into account this feces.

[Paul 1]

What exactly was the wobbling? In what he told how was actually awarded the title of Doctor of Sciences Sakharov? Is this also a wiggle for you?

[hrych]

Quote: Paul 1

In what he told how was actually awarded the title of Doctor of Sciences Sakharov?

So this is a frank lie that you can’t check. Who was Stalin's witness there? The usual liberal bullshit. And if the titles are awarded for specific discoveries and developments, then this is also a normal phenomenon. What did this drisc invent for the homeland and world science? In addition to nudging, nothing was different and work at a liberal arts university at the department of mathematics - believe me, this is ridiculous. Such departments were created so that in the first year they took a course in higher mathematics for general development, formally, the Soviet system was laid down. Your right to believe this creature, but you should not post for sure. Moreover, he began to grind about Murzilka, cartoons and other things. What does the operator need to swim and shoot the torpedo in parallel? And so, they showed the launches of all Putin's absolute devices. The laser unit is shown, atomic boats are specially altered. Already four pieces. And what this drisch will say to that. The device will not look specific, in shape, like an ordinary torpedo, just big. And yet, normal scientists and engineers do not have time to blog, these are very busy people, they work until their death.

[Paul 1]

Well, then I see and do not master it. The charmer himself is nowhere cooler. But you can, you have a vacation right now.

[hrych]

Quote: Paul 1

Well, then I see and do not master it. The charmer himself is nowhere cooler

Is it about me? I believe our Supreme, moreover, even American intelligence does not doubt our developments, only such persons begin to stir up the water. And you post them. What for? Meaning? Do not you believe in small-sized nuclear weapons? Do not believe in a global positioning system and inertial guidance, which can lead a torpedo to its destination? Do not believe in the charge, which was tested many years ago on the New Earth? So all this is not fantastic so-and-so. He blurted out that he didn’t believe about invisibility for sonar, because it’s not a giant boat, where mechanisms the size of this torpedo, its noise, its turbulence is such a trifle. They are not able to detect the boats, but then this twenty-meter sausage. Yes, I do not care. Believe what you want, to be honest. Four nuclear submarines redone, four ...

[Paul 1]

He has never said there. What an impossible prodigy. you probably have something wrong with perception. He only said that once this is done, then this is a breakthrough. Well, however, who are interested in such trifles

[Paul 1]

GPS under water does not work. inertial guidance system will not save from any obstacles. And over long periods of time and when maneuvering always increases the probable deviation. He questioned only the fact that it can not be detected further than 10 km. Yes, and that categorically claimed nothing. Okay, I see here nobody is interested in such trifles.

[hrych]

Quote: Paul 1

He never said there

Moreover, he is not needed here and is inappropriate To beat Sakhorov and kick Stalin in one go is his main merit. Well, a smelly, wrinkled figure in an ironing shirt and an awkward scarf

[Paul 1]

Not the fact that he cheated, it remains to be seen. In this case, this is the transfer of the first educational federal channel, which in itself draws on an authoritative and peer-reviewed source. These videos are moderated by the editors of the educational channel. And most likely there are proofs, even if they are not known to us.

[Paul 1]

If you take a closer look at the video of 2015, when no Poseidons were announced yet. By the way, I posted the video just to remind. That all these tsunamis as a result of nuclear explosions from 100 megaton bombs are not a working thing. it needs hundreds and thousands of times more power to wash off something more serious than a couple of three microdistricts.

[hrych]

Well, convinced. In essence. This person farted that the tsunami is impossible, saying that Sakharov does not understand meteorites there. I personally counted on the height of the resulting wave, taking the data from an underwater nuclear explosion of the Americans. In my comments a year ago, I can’t find it myself, it’s easier to calculate again. In short, the size of the cavitation bubble was taken and what wave it gave. In short, I can lie, but a 50 or 100 meter cavitation bubble initiated a half-meter wave or an unfortunate meter wave. In short, a bubble of 10 thousand, it is the fireball of the Tsar bomb, i.e. theoretically, the cavitation bubble is not less than 10 km, but actually more. True, they ate to smell in the middle of the depths of the Mariana Trench. In short, conditionally, 50 cm of the initiated wave of a weak explosion proportionally turned into a 500 meter wave, with a powerful explosion. Hiroshima is 15-20 kilotons, Tsar Bomb is 50 kilotons, i.e. 000-2 thousand Hiroshima. And the full charge of the Tsar Bomb or Poseidon is 3 megatons, i.e. in the area of ​​100 thousand Hiroshima Many simply do not understand the power of this weapon, even compared to just atomic. There the calculation was certainly more accurate. Several quantities were taken into account and the coefficient of wave increase was derived. And our scientists modeled in a reservoir, of course with small, ordinary charges and at a certain depth, where the greatest effect, the super torpedo gave a wave of up to 700 meters in height. What Academician Vostretsov told, it is clear that the simulation results were secret. And on average, on the East coast of the United States, a two-hundred-meter wave would go. New York and even Washington would have no chance. This super-mathematician would have counted before pooping on Sakharov, and therefore on Trutnev, and therefore on Kurchatov, who had a greater relationship to this torpedo than Sakharov himself. Therefore, to figure it out, take the data of American underwater explosions, calculate the wave enlargement coefficient depending on the increase in the explosion power, the size of the cavitation bubble is needed more and you will be happy. And see for yourself the effectiveness of the weapons scheme. And you Internet professor will not be able to powder your head.

[Paul 1]

This is a complex hydrodynamic task.
On the knee it can not be solved. Already tried including the Americans and all poheril
http://www.igfarben.ru/sakharov_tsunami_bomb_torp
edo_t15
read read

even on wikipedia there’s an article on tsunami

https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%A6%D1%83%D0%BD%
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D0%B5_%D0%B2%D0%BE%D0%B7%D0%BC%D0%BE%D0%B6%D0%BD%
D1%8B%D0%B5_%D0%BF%D1%80%D0%B8%D1%87%D0%B8%D0%BD%
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Other possible causes
Human activity. In the age of atomic energy, a means appeared in man’s hands to cause shaking, previously only available to nature. In 1946, the United States launched an underwater atomic explosion with a TNT equivalent of 60 thousand tons in a sea lagoon 20 meters deep. The wave that arose at a distance of 300 m from the explosion rose to a height of 28,6 m, and reached 6,5 m at 1,8 km from the epicenter. But for the long-distance propagation of the wave, some volume of water needs to be forced out or absorbed, therefore the waves from underwater landslides and explosions always have a local character. If several hydrogen bombs are simultaneously detonated at the bottom of the ocean, along a line, a higher wave can be formed due to the cumulative effect, but not falling into the tsunami category due to the fact that the formation of a tsunami requires a shift of the entire water column, whereas the explosion forms only surface waves. Computer simulations of such experiments were carried out and proved the absence of any significant results in comparison with more accessible types of weapons. Currently, any underwater tests of atomic weapons are prohibited by a series of international treaties.

[Paul 1]

Your calculation by the way is fundamentally wrong. Such dynamic problems can be solved only in energy quantities. (That is, the energy received by the wave, how it is received and where it will dissipate) At least this is the only connection for the equations of motion so as not to link manual movements. Your calculation is nothing.

[Paul 1]

Many do not understand that power is an energy value, and that the radii of lesions are proportional to power as a cubic root. That is, if you increase the power by 1000 times, you will increase the radius only by 10. And logically, by the way, this is easy to understand. The fact is that power is dissipated into the volume. And the distances are proportional to just the volume in the third degree. This is true for the volume of the cube as well as for the sphere and other figures. For example. In order to conditionally melt a cube with a volume of 1000 times larger with a nuclear explosion, it is necessary to increase the power by 1000 times, but at the same time, the cube is 1000 times larger, the side length will be only 10 times longer than the cube with a volume 1000 times smaller.
This, incidentally, is the main problem of nuclear weapons.

[Paul 1]

Quote: hrych

And the full charge of the Tsar Bomb or Poseidon is 100 megatons, i.e. in the area of ​​5 thousand Hiroshima

The fact is that the radius of destruction of such a bomb will be only 17 times greater than that of the one dropped on Hiroshima.
cubic root of 5000 = 17,1.
This is what I generally outline for you.

[hrych]

There are no obstacles there, the depth of one kilometer, where Poseidon is going to swim does not mean the whales that this underrated led. The sperm whale may come on, but then the lousy mathematician must remember the theory of probability. And how does your submarine float in silence mode? Crashing to where? This algorithm, shoots the buoy, checks with GLONASS, adjusted the course and went on. Problem?

[Paul 1]

In silent mode. Only by the compass of the gyroscope, you can monitor your location well and passively listen to any sound landmarks, maybe you can even understand something. Well, the displacer can be raised for GPS and astro correction.
In general, it’s as if the cases of boats of different states stupidly hitting each other in hulls (not realizing that they’ve got closer) happen, and they are already much more than fingers and fingers. In silent mode, they are actually blind, whatever one may say. Although with varying degrees of accuracy they present their current location.
In general, by the way, I don’t understand why this conversation is about. He only identified some problems, but did not declare them unsolvable.
He just said that all these tricks should be taught to the robot - which, in general, is not so easy from scratch, although of course it is real. I do not see the point of catching it on this.

[ZVO]

Quote: hrych

This algorithm, shoots the buoy, checks with GLONASS, adjusted the course and went on. Problem?

The problem is in your head - something is missing there ...
Yeah ...
At a depth of 1 km to shoot the buoy.
Okay, let's take a word.
Walking at a speed of 100km / h - how strong should the cable be, how long should the cable be?
To drag it in the aquatic environment for at least 1 minute to verify satellite signals ... with a pressure of 100 atmospheres ???
Can you imagine what inertia and what braking will this cable create?

And navigation satellites will generally be at the time of applying Status-6 ???
Are you out of your mind ???
People like you are just a storehouse ... A storehouse of absurdities ...

[hrych]

Here come on and count, refute academician Sakhorov But, I remind you, he is an academician and he successfully made hydrogen, including the Tsar Bomb, three times a hero of social labor, a laureate of the Stalin and Lenin Prizes. Believe Internet underdocents, etc. And remember that the cavitation bubble, as a geometric value, the wave height is also a geometric value. Although these are all only predictive calculations, they speak of the right direction of truly our great scientists. If you want to switch to calculation in physical quantities, then you simply do not have the data, for the time being they are classified and are not in the public domain. But one feature will have to go to the size of the cavitation bubble, depending on the power and the height of the wave that it will give. In short, go to another article. How can I talk to you if the academics aren’t decreeing you, and the Internet assistant professor, known in narrow circles of minorities, at least the Swedish Royal Academy of Sciences, is unlikely to know about its existence, but Kurchatov, Trutnev, Sakharov know, even Stalin knows . But this creature for some reason ventured Sakharov accused of incompetence. Cool. So you along the way with him

[Paul 1]

He didn’t blame him. He simply admitted that he was not competent in matters of oceanology and hydrodynamics - but that was not his profile, Sakharov was a nuclear scientist. In general, all modern verified data, including in practice, indicates that the tsunami does not work. In fact, the issue here is not the tsunami, but the cobalt bomb.

[Paul 1]

I understand why you do not like mathematicians. You with a physical mat do not be offended frankly bad. Well, maybe this is not a problem for you. I have a little better work like this, constructor.
And yes. Sakharov, by the way, the doctors were assigned exactly the physics and mathematics sciences. This is their profile.

[Conductor]

You can learn more about Sakharov’s achievements.

[hrych]

Google yourself, this is an outstanding scientist, a participant (the father of the hydrogen bomb, of course the stamp, the father of Kurchatov there) creating the “Puff” and “Tsar bomb”, which is the greatest achievement of mankind. He contacted Elena Bonner, or rather they planted him, she is an agent of Western services. But the USSR has made significant progress in the nuclear race, their Teller device is unsuitable for use in warfare, it needed parity, that’s what attacked our scientists, we also covered their secrets, Klaus Fuchs helped us. Normal work. Sakharov became a traitor, with a mustachioed one through Lena, although before that his conscience began to torment and became a human rights activist. About how Fuchs had his thoughts about personal guilt, in the death of humanity, when one of the parties gets an advantage. In short, this is a separate issue, but the results that have been achieved in theory and in practice are indisputable and cannot be appealed. His merit is that they did not destroy us when they had an overwhelming quantitative superiority of nuclear bombs, one bomb was made, a limited number of which equalized forces.

[Vladimirovich_4]

I would even supplement your statement. "His merit is that they did not destroy us, (like the Japanese, for example), when they had the overwhelming ...."

[Paul 1]

The trick is that Fomenko is a mathematician. Not everyone is equally useful.

[hrych]

Quote: Paul 1

In general, all modern verified data, including in practice, indicates that the tsunami does not work.

Just smart uncles came back to this topic, made a torpedo, made (or rather remade) the carriers, and you tell me here, if you yourself checked it in practice. Like they’re completely stupid, including the Supreme Your question is a fanatical belief that we are not capable of destroying America. This is where you need to start. He found the anti-Stalinist-antisaccharist type of assistant professor, candidate of sciences and clung to him. Here is your docent journalist (he simply doesn’t even know any of the academicians) and a real nuclear scientist, academician Ostretsov, who speaks of an artificial tsunami. Like this

You will understand a lot in life

[Vladimirovich_4]

You just don’t understand what kind of program it is. This is a conspiracy theory. He invites freaks there with whom "normal" scientists do not even speak anymore. He gives the pad. To even freaks speak out

[Vladimirovich_4]

Well, however, if you want, you can also believe freaks. But the transmission is not about that at all

[Vladimirovich_4]

I saw this show completely.
Ostretsov, you are called an academician. He never was. Although he is a doctor. I am sure that deservedly. But starting from 90, he is engaged in pseudoscience, which has been recognized many times, including by real academics.

[hrych]

The Academy of Geopolitical Problems is, in principle, public, apparently the RAS is not recognized, therefore it agrees, but its competence in nuclear engineering is not in doubt. His track record is impressive and quite. Especially with regard to applied, rather than theoretical, nuclear physics.

[hrych]

Quote: voyaka uh

You are at least an outright pithecanthropus.

Have you come to direct insults?

[ZVO]

Quote: hrych

and even dares to touch Sakhorov, the merits to world progress are undeniable

What are the real merits of Sakharov?

[hrych]

Quote: ZVO

What are the real merits of Sakharov?

Participation in the creation of the hydrogen bomb and the "Tsar bomb", as its embodiment. Thanks to which their overwhelming quantitative superiority rested on our quality and war has not happened to this day. He is one of the saviors of our ethnic group. And his later political views, including the betrayal of the system, are nonsense in comparison with merit. The main savior of course is Kurchatov, but Sakharov is not the last person there.

[ZVO]

Quote: hrych

Quote: ZVO

What are the real merits of Sakharov?

Participation in the creation of the hydrogen bomb and the "Tsar bomb", as its embodiment. Thanks to which their overwhelming quantitative superiority rested on our quality and war has not happened to this day. He is one of the saviors of our ethnic group. And his later political views, including the betrayal of the system, are nonsense in comparison with merit. The main savior of course is Kurchatov, but Sakharov is not the last person there.

Savior?

Rescuers were Zeldovich, Tamm, Kurchatov, Ginzburg, Belenky, Khariton ....

And Sakharova was appointed the “oligarchic liberal” politota in the early 90s as the “father and savior”. which at that moment owned all of our media, from the Berezovsky to the Gusinsky.

[hrych]

Quote: ZVO

The problem is in your head - something is missing there ...
Yeah ... Shoot the buoy at a depth of 1 km. Okay, let’s take a word. Going at a speed of 100 km / h - how strong should the cable be, how long should the cable be?
To drag it in the aquatic environment for at least 1 minute to verify satellite signals ... with a pressure of 100 atmospheres ??? Do you have any inertia and what kind of braking this cable will create? And navigation satellites will generally be at the moment of applying the Status- 6 ??? Are you even out of your mind ??? Like you - it's just a storehouse ... A storehouse of absurdities ...

The points. The problem is in your head, our engineers did, the Supreme voiced. It was not me who invented it, but Trutnev and Sakharov under the command of Kurchatov. They claim if there is enough credibility. A drone, it is smarter than some bloggers, it can stop for correction, it can emerge by itself, it can raise a buoy on a cable, it can shoot a one-time with a wireless communication channel, i.e. ultrasonic or radio channel, at a frequency passing water. Inertialia is a counting device, it has a deviation, but here you do not even need to get into the metropolis, but on the coast. There is astro correction, you raise a buoy with an optical device in the infrared spectrum of the cloud is transparent. There is a reconciliation with an electronic map of the area, if the Kyrgyz Republic, by radar and optics, is checking with mountains, forests, rivers, buildings, then underwater, echolocation is checked with underwater ridges, hollows, depths, etc. This is about the death of satellites, but in local wars with third countries, not the USA, limited conflict, etc. With the use of a low-power charge and generally non-nuclear, as well as if we attack the USA first, we are worse. That satellites are all in place. Also, during the Apocalypse, it is the satellites who have more chances to survive it than you. For the "dead hand" this is not necessary at all, inertia will be quite enough. I am in my own mind, but I would advise you to tighten your knowledge according to the principles of guidance. And then the attacks are stupid. I repeat, I'm trying to figure out what has been done and voiced, you are trying to refute incompetently and most importantly, now the level of technology does not make this drone a fantasy. Because, unlike you, the Americans took everything at face value. They believed the Supreme, and you didn’t, due to the lack of the necessary knowledge, you would have to lift the cable at speed, but you didn’t guess it. Therefore, your brain is not good at all for controlling a drone

[Starikan]

I remember for this development of Sakharov, some generals called a "bloody maniac" for the fact that he suggested that these torpedoes shell the US coast (there would be millions of victims)! It was he who later became a "dissident" ..That is another shifter.!

[Alex20042004]

Quote: san4es

.... He was shocked by the “cannibalistic nature” of the project and noticed in a conversation with me that sailors were used to fighting an armed enemy in open battle and that the very idea of ​​such a massacre was disgusting for him .......

Well yes.
When dumped on Hiroshima and Nagasaki, then, of course, they thought of an open and honest fight. They made fun.
The USA is a state with its own concept of democracy and the value of life.
The United States is a state that supports terrorism, which every 2-3 years around the world arrange various military conflicts.
Pin / dos should know that at any time they will receive a reply in a piece of cake.
Pin \ dos talk with you when something is threatening them.

[ZVO]

Quote: Alex20042004

Quote: san4es

.... He was shocked by the “cannibalistic nature” of the project and noticed in a conversation with me that sailors were used to fighting an armed enemy in open battle and that the very idea of ​​such a massacre was disgusting for him .......

Well yes.
When dumped on Hiroshima and Nagasaki, then, of course, they thought about an open and honest fight ..

in fact it is ...

Do you know anything about Tokyo bombing?
In the spring of 45 it was.
Conventional conventional bombardment.
Some 300 bombers there.
But ...
There were more corpses than in the same nuclear Hiroshima or nuclear Nagasaki ...
You do not know about it. and never thought about it.
Maybe it’s just that propaganda didn’t hammer you in the head?
And nuclear bombing is really for Americans a concern for the lives of their soldiers.
They saved at least 300-400 thousand lives of their soldiers. breaking the Japanese.

But we easily and naturally destroyed only 200 thousand of our own in the Berlin operation ...
And before that there were Poland, where 600 thousand were killed. Other...
Over 1 million soldiers laid down.
And they could achieve the same result with 300 bombers ...
Or maybe 2 bombers. if we had such bombs ...

And I would not blame anyone for this.
And you, everyone else, too.
would not blame ..

[Alex20042004]

Unfortunately, we did not have that much ammunition for 300 bombers. This is the logistics.

[spectr]

Well, yes, they overlaid Russia with a missile defense system, and they are looking for an alternative. If you look then they will create something autonomous that floats in water and then "jumps" to land.

[Grandfather Luka]

Quote: Magic Archer

So under such a torpedo and a boat of a special project is needed ... The point is to develop such a monster if there is no carrier ?! Strange information

..... And a range of 50 km. . What nonsense.

[Beltasir matyagu]

Twice a lie. Firstly, they created a drone torpedo with similar functions. Secondly, under Sakharov, the project was hacked down by the Minister of Defense for the "cannibalistic" meaning of weapons

[Old26]

Quote: Mih1974

Read carefully - there is at least some missile defense and it’s clear where to “cut” it longer, but if you miss the launch of such a torpedo and don’t know where the hell they will bring from, then this is not for you. The atmosphere here and the “radars” are all very bad.

Probably the Faroe Frontier is an empty phrase for you. And how our boats tried to overcome it. Does anyone seriously believe that a torpedo (the same Status or Poseidon) going at a speed of 70-100 knots will be "silent." In general, weapons like "Poseidon" or "Status" are the "last forgiveness" when the war is lost by Russia. And it will be necessary to ditch the enemy as much of the population as possible. No one with a normal head will use it as a weapon of the first strike.

Quote: Vanek

Quote: voyaka uh

beer drank in a restaurant
at lunchtime

I don’t care who you are, who you work with, etc.
Beer? At lunch?
you atas just ...
At lunch plump

And what, "drinking" 0,3 or 0,5 liters of beer - is it a plump? At the time of Gorbachev and his anti-alcohol company, we had a deputy according to the regime so that people wouldn’t stand in a queue for lunch in the pub and get a quick beer order in the dining room to sell beer to employees at lunch. But no more than 1 or 2 bottles in hand (I don’t remember exactly). And nothing. The beer hall of our design bureaus has become an order of magnitude smaller. Why go somewhere, stand in line, and in order not to "repeat" to take several mugs at once, when it was calm, at lunch, you could drink a bottle ....

Quote: Antidote

There was no money for development in the Soviet Union, and is modern Russia so rich that it was found? It smacks of something yellow.

Very yellow. Moreover, the interviewer is somewhat disingenuous. Well, something, but in the mid-50s we did not spare money on weapons, because we realized that they would otherwise crush us. But the expert group of sailors proved that this weapon system (a boat with a T-15 torpedo) will be ineffective and the boat will actually turn into a kamikaze boat. But even when we still didn’t have ICBMs, nobody began to spend money on an inefficient weapons system. The reason is this, and not because there was no money. The boat was very specialized and could hardly even stand up for itself

[hrych]

Quote: Old26

Does anyone seriously believe that a torpedo (the same Status or Poseidon) going at a speed of 70-100 knots will be "silent." In general, weapons like "Poseidon" or "Status" are the "last forgiveness" when the war is lost by Russia.

Come on, Old, do not confuse Status with Poseidon and that's why. The Status was spoken of as an apocalypse torpedo, tsunami, cobalt, etc. Poseidon is said in two ways, like an apocalypse weapon under 100 megatons and even more. Vladimir Putin officially confirmed the existence of an underwater drone on March 1, 2018. At the same time, he added that the US carrier strike groups are also the target. A theme later appeared that the charge would be 2 megatons, which is enough to destroy AUGs, submarines, enemy naval bases, even a coastal city, but not enough to wash off / infect most of the coast, where megacities and cities of the USA, Britain and China are concentrated. Therefore, we have two different projects, although close in essence, let's say a really apocalypse torpedo and just a strategic torpedo that can carry out tactical tasks. Therefore, the use of the second option is not associated with the type of "dead hand". Also, the Apocalypse torpedo, after all, can be the weapon of the first attack, or, say, to deliver a disarming strike, they have the bulk of the BR - the Tridents. At the expense of noiselessness, no one forces her to fly quickly under water, who said that she cannot sneak quietly. Program as you like. At the expense of SOSUS, they weren’t really able to catch the huge roaring cows, but here the dimensions are like a log. Where turbulence is less than that of Anthei cutting. Also, while there is no means to intercept it, neither in depth nor in speed. And as I understand it, the nuclear warhead will still be different from the OK-650, there might be no rubbing and vibrating parts at all. And also, who said that he would go through the Faroe Islands, and why not through Gibraltar, and why not through Cape Horn. Why not drop it from a bulk carrier in the Atlantic, etc. There are no range limitations, and therefore there are a lot of options for using the bulk.

[Zomanus]

Well, having geological fault maps and such torpedoes,
You can do a lot of interesting things with enemy territory.

[Radical]

In Russia, returned to the consideration of the project of Academician Sakharov

In the current state of design thought, more precisely, the availability of designers (not by post) in the Russian Federation, it is not surprising that they extract from the archives everything that remains, that they have not been thrown to the west ...

[sib.ataman]

Quote: Magic Archer

So under such a torpedo and a boat of a special project is needed ... The point is to develop such a monster if there is no carrier ?! Strange information

Is it a spy? You ask such questions!

[Dimon19661]

Cold war 2.0 ??? And without this in any way ??? And how many couch warriors rode, the army really squandered, but on a warm couch, but under a beer, you can even fight ...

[zxc15682]

What stupidity.? Why shouldn’t the water evaporate anyway? Better to gasp in the air.

[Apollo]

It seems that Tolik will not allow Putin to recreate such an abru-cadabra.

[Old26]

Quote: hrych

Come on, Old, do not confuse Status with Poseidon and that's why. The Status was spoken of as an apocalypse torpedo, tsunami, cobalt, etc. Poseidon is said in two ways, like an apocalypse weapon under 100 megatons and even more. Vladimir Putin officially confirmed the existence of an underwater drone on March 1, 2018

Confuse? What with what? How does the “stuffing” of the 2015 Status-6 super torpedo differ from the “stuffing” of the March 1, 2018 sample? The scheme in both cases is applied the same, worked out for decades. Both stuffing - in the shadow of the president.
How does the "presentation" of the Status-6 product differ from the presentation of Poseidon? But nothing. Both presentations are presented as “something.” Like a kind of superweapon. TTX them "from one source". By the way, where is the product "Status-4". Where did it go? The whole calculation is that people picks

Quote: hrych

Vladimir Putin officially confirmed the existence of an underwater drone on March 1, 2018.

So the existence of "Status 6" was officially confirmed by Putin in 2015. Imnno at a meeting with him and was "stuffed" about "Status"

Quote: hrych

At the same time, he added that the US carrier strike groups are also the target. A theme later appeared that the charge would be 2 megatons, which is enough to destroy AUGs, submarines, enemy naval bases, even a coastal city, but not enough to wash off / infect most of the coast, where megacities and cities of the USA, Britain and China are concentrated ..

If the concept of hitting the shore and bases can still be understood, then how this drone will intercept the AUG or boat is generally beyond reason. Only the words of the President ...

Quote: hrych

Therefore, we have two different projects, although close in essence, let's say a really apocalypse torpedo and just a strategic torpedo that can carry out tactical tasks. .

And for everything about everything for this, there are only 4 boats that can become the prey of American hunter boats ....
There is a lot of money in the country, since we are going to use 2 systems at once with almost zero efficiency ....

Quote: hrych

Also, the Apocalypse torpedo, after all, can be the weapon of the first attack, or, say, to deliver a disarming strike, they have the bulk of the BR - the Tridents. At the expense of noiselessness, no one forces her to fly quickly under water, who said that she cannot sneak quietly ..

Yeah, weapons of the first attack. I wonder how they can be delivered unnoticed? Even if at a speed of 100 knots it will go to America for more than two days. How much will it go at a speed of silent running ??? A speed of 100 knots cannot be obtained with screws. It must be an underwater rocket. How then to make the exhaust of this rocket silent, do not tell me ??? The cartoon, shown under the guise of "Poseidon" - an underwater vehicle "Harpsichord-2". Here he can quietly sneak up. He has a speed of 5 km / h. But alas, the speed of 100 knots this product on the screws will never develop ....
And do not tell me how 4 carrier boats will be able to enter the patrol zone of 10-12 American missile carriers, who are hiding behind their boats. What kind of disarming strike can we talk about ???

Quote: hrych

At the expense of SOSUS, they weren’t really able to catch the huge roaring cows, but here the dimensions are like a log ..

Yeah, that’s why the breakthrough of the Faroe-Icelandic frontier was a kind of "matriculation certificate" for our submariners. And for a successful breakthrough, they gave both titles and awards. And this "log" how much will go through this line. there, after all, it’s not just a linear arrangement of hydrophones, but a boundary with its own depth ....

Quote: hrych

Also, while there is no means to intercept it, neither in depth nor in speed ..

And it will also explode at a depth of 1 km ???? Speed ​​is a matter of gain ....

Quote: hrych

And as I understand it, the nuclear warhead will still be different from the OK-650, there might be no rubbing and vibrating parts at all. .

Yeah. But the control system is located between two radiating objects. Reactor and charge. That's a nice neighborhood for electronics ....

Quote: hrych

And also, who said that he would go through the Faroe Islands, and why not through Gibraltar, and why not through Cape Horn. Why not drop it from a bulk carrier in the Atlantic, etc. There are no range limitations, and therefore there are a lot of options for using the bulk.

And in Gibraltar, this torpedo will be transferred with the wave of a magic wand? From the Black Sea? And into it - along the Volga and Don?
Throw it off the bulk carrier in the Atlantic - no problem, think of a “fool” of 3 tens of meters and weighing half a ton ??? Yes, just spit ...

[hrych]

How difficult you are, Old Even if SOSUS detects, it is necessary not to lose it, but to intercept it, but for now nothing, moreover, the baby can pass the line quietly, do maneuvers, etc. I repeat, we take two (you want three) sea containers (we weld, we remove the partitions), and we discard from a cargo ship under the Panama flag in the Atlantic. Why is Caliber better, and it’s no secret that they hid it in a container. You can open the mouth of the roller and roll it on a cart and dump it into the sea-okiyan. We can open the mouth, ramp, ramp of a larger landing ship. Yes, stupidly on the deck under the tarp. Problem? Though Gibraltar, even the Panama Canal, even the English Channel. In general, among our bloggers, especially military pensioners, I observe a lack of imagination. Thoughts with cliches and instructions, as a legacy of stagnation in times of stagnation. Under Beria, the brain worked creatively in people, so we still use ideas. Old, more creative thought come on. Your confidence in intercepting our carriers is, of course, amazing. Even gentlemen, we forget that the United States is not only the East Atlantic coast, but also the Western Pacific, where there are sea bases, where Los Angeles, where 50 million citizens live. There, of course, the Faroe’s line is not there. Also, as Sarmat’s ICBMs, we will have to practice a strike from the South, so that their existing echelon of missile defense becomes insolvent. Also Poseidon practices a blow from unexpected directions of YaSU, this allows in order to bypass SAUCES, etc., or where Previously, our submarines practiced passage under a large civilian vessel, which is allowed for more than a hundred-meter giant with a cabin, but for some reason you refuse a 100-meter log without cutting. It can be attached to the bottom, and even Poseidon will be stupidly lowered to the bottom in the Atlantic, delivered (by the above methods) and left in standby mode to wait for a command, not even a start, but ... canceling the start. You can quietly barrage, you can lie on your belly, cooling the reactor. Russia is alive, it will give a coded signal to the life of America, and we’ll wait a few more months. No signal, no America. How is the idea? The ocean is large, the background noises are strong, the baby is quiet, it starts at XNUMX knots when it goes on the last path.

Quote: Old26

Throw it off the bulk carrier in the Atlantic - no problem, think of a “fool” of 3 tens of meters and weighing half a ton ??? Yes, just spit ...

Here are continuous unsolvable problems for you, but how do you carry oversized cargo, and how do you carry submarines? There is no way for the Old Man to solve the problem, well, nothing.

“We are closely following the development of Russian underwater technologies, but we won’t comment on it,” Pentagon spokesman Jeff Davis has already turned his back on. Status 6 is the most irresponsible nuclear weapon program that Putin’s Russia has come up with. They can kill and wash us all out with this! ", - quotes WFB former US Secretary of Defense Mark Schneider.
Only our bloggers are dumb

[Prosha]

Why fence a garden? There are "Clubs" or they will, well, why else should you kill the fish, anyway, nobody will eat it after the "vigorous" frying ...

But the picture is interesting - it’s possible to quietly cover America with submarines, they’ll search for them under water and will not come to anyone’s head that they’ll check the transport)))

[igorbrsv]

Quote: voyaka uh

"Why Siberian Cranes, we have some flying trained women" //

Are you talking about Zakharov? She has already flown to America.
I saw pictures she posted on social networks: in New York in Manhattan, near the famous expensive department store. In beautiful stylish clothes.
It looked great having rested, it’s clear that she’s happy ...

Well then the bomb is already there

[valerij zviozdkin]

How can they be guided into the sea under water, by sound, by magnetic field?