The F-35 transferred to Israel had to be urgently planted in Texas. Why?

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Israeli media reported that American X-Men fighters of the 5 F-35 generation arrived at one of the Israeli Air Force bases with an almost weekly delay. We are talking about three aircraft F-35 "Adir", built in the US specifically for the Israeli air force. These airplanes are the next fighter party transferred by the States for their Middle Eastern ally.

Israeli media wrote that the problem with the delay in the transfer of aircraft was caused by a technical malfunction of one of them. At the same time, a technical malfunction on board the F-35 "Adir" was discovered after the departure. The pilot had to request permission for an emergency landing at one of the airfields in Texas. In the same place two other planes transferred by the Israeli Air Force landed.



The F-35 transferred to Israel had to be urgently planted in Texas. Why?


About what kind of malfunction was identified during the flight, not reported. It is known that it was eliminated for several days, and also during this time they re-checked the technical condition of the two other aircraft.

It should be recalled that the first batch of F-35 "Adir" was delivered to Israel at the end of 2016. To date, according to Israeli media, the country's Air Force has X-NUMX F-12 airplanes. This, together with those who were put on the airbase "Nevatim" (Israel) on the eve.

In March of this year, the F-35 Israeli Air Force was first used in combat operations. They were accompanied by other means aviation Israeli Air Force. This was the F-35's first combat use stories this aircraft.

Officials from the command of the Israeli Air Force receive F-35 after the identified faults at the moment do not comment.
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  1. +8
    25 June 2018 06: 53
    Israeli media write that the problem with the delay in the transfer of aircraft was caused by a technical malfunction of one of them.

    Buy as many of these "birds" as possible. YOU ARE WELCOME!!!
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      1. +23
        25 June 2018 07: 18
        On a new technique, troubleshooting is common.
        Haha for every American sneeze joyfully to report - the bastard is ill!
        1. +11
          25 June 2018 07: 42
          On a new technique, troubleshooting is common.

          On test flights, yes. But here is a different situation. And yes
          the bastard is ill!
          1. +5
            25 June 2018 09: 26
            Quote: Hammerlock

            On test flights, yes. But here is a different situation. And yes, the bastard is ill!

            And how do machines whose production and operation are debugged to shine beat? Technique is technique.
          2. MPN
            +8
            25 June 2018 10: 40
            Quote: Hammerlock
            On test flights, yes.

            When the plane arrived at our unit, even from the factory, even from the repair base, the plane was driven into the fuel and energy sector and went through all the regulations for a new one, only after that it was allowed to fly ...
            1. +1
              26 June 2018 23: 38
              Quote: MPN
              When the plane arrived at our unit, even from the factory, even from the repair base, the plane was driven into the fuel and energy sector and went through all the regulations for a new one, only after that it was allowed to fly ...

              Pavel, this is all according to the plan according to the NIAS - routine maintenance after the first 5 hours of flight with a check of all units and tightening torques of the main components ...
    2. +11
      25 June 2018 06: 59
      The fact of the matter is that Israel does not buy them, but receives them. But for this "gift" they will pay dearly.
      1. +6
        25 June 2018 07: 56
        Quote: Mar. Tira
        But for this "gift" they will pay dearly


        Oh, and how? belay
        1. +6
          25 June 2018 08: 08
          About what kind of malfunction was identified during the flight is not reported. Moreover, it is known that it was eliminated for several days

          Judging by the timing of the elimination, not such a serious malfunction
        2. +6
          25 June 2018 08: 29
          Support financially the economy, and the US military-industrial complex. Calculate how much the American service of one crutch will cost you a year? More than a billion dollars.
          1. +2
            25 June 2018 08: 33
            Quote: Mar. Tira
            Support financially the economy, and the US military-industrial complex. Calculate how much the American service of one crutch will cost you a year? More than a billion dollars.


            What is 1 billion dollars a year worth?
            1. +6
              25 June 2018 08: 35
              Quote: Tiras
              What is 1 billion dollars a year worth?

              Crutch. The plane is disabled F-35 / Even taking into account the Israeli bells and whistles, the United States gave you a loan specifically for their purchase ... One aircraft of modification A will cost $ 94,8 million, modification B - 102 million, modification C for naval aviation - 115,7, 1,05 million. All of these prices exclude the engine price, given the $ 24,4 billion contract with Pratt & Whitney to supply aircraft engines for this batch of aircraft, the price of each modification increases by approximately $ 119,2 million to: $ 35 million for F-126,4A; $ 35 million for the F-140,1B and $ 35 million for the F-XNUMXC.

              In 2015, the commissioning of the F-35 was postponed from 2015 to 2019 due to problems with the weapons and software of the aircraft. It was later reported that the problems would be resolved without specifying a deadline, but the input deadline would not change, which can be understood both as an error in the timing of software creation and as the possibility of using the aircraft in an incomplete configuration.

              After Donald Trump criticized the program for creating the latest combat aircraft because of its cost at the end of 2016, Lockheed Martin Corporation announced a reduction in the cost of F-35 fighters to $ 85 million in 2019. laughing lol
              1. +4
                25 June 2018 08: 36
                Quote: Mar. Tira
                Crutch. Airplane disabled person F-35 /


                You are obviously confusing something.
                1. +4
                  25 June 2018 09: 05
                  Quote: Tiras
                  Something you obviously confuse

                  I don’t confuse anything. In October 2010, the Israeli Air Force agreed to purchase the first batch of 20 F-35 fighters ($ 96 million per aircraft, the total transaction amount is $ 2,75 billion). Israel requested permission from the United States to install a number of additional systems from its own developments in the field of avionics and weapons on acquired fighters. At the end of September 2010, such partial permission was obtained. At the same time, the United States set the condition that if the Israeli Ministry of Defense increases the order for the F-35, then it will be allowed to use more of its own systems and weapons. As part of the long-term arms procurement plan being approved by the General Staff of the Armed Forces of the country, it was planned to purchase at least 20 more fighters in order to increase their number to 40 units by 2020. Here we must also act in the sale of arms to third countries, at least S-400
              2. +1
                25 June 2018 09: 07
                So you brought an article here and what's next?

                You wrote:
                . american service one crutch in a year? Over a billion dollars.


                Where is the confirmation of your words in the article?
                1. +5
                  25 June 2018 09: 13
                  Quote: Tiras
                  Where is the confirmation of your words in the article?

                  On ITONTV. Why do I believe Gorin, and Kedmi ???????????????????
                  1. +3
                    25 June 2018 09: 20
                    I see, you merged.
                    I thought that you will bring articles that are not related to what you are asked about.

                    Since when is Kedmi, who has long been retired and has no particular authority in these matters?

                    If this is your authority, then this is sad. It rather shows on the contrary that you have little understanding of what you are writing about.
                    Well, by golly - to write that the cost of servicing one aircraft is more than a billion laughing
                    1. +4
                      25 June 2018 11: 54
                      Well, what are you doing ????? Every day ETHON TV is watched by 80 thousand people. The competence of Kedmi, as I understand it, is more than that of all Jews on the site combined. I looked at it and counted, it turned out even more, even considering 85. thousand. dollars, servicing one airplane 8,5 thousand a year. We multiply by 33. But the truth is that I didn’t understand correctly. Not one airplane, but all. But you must admit that such a sheepskin is not worth the cost, especially since you are not fighting a war. P / S. You would still watch his interview. Jewish nationalism, of course, exists, but there are also reasonable things.
                      1. +3
                        25 June 2018 12: 05
                        Quote: Mar. Tira
                        Well, what are you so ?????


                        For the reason that he is considered an expert only in Russia or in the Russian-speaking environment, and that is far from all.

                        In Israel, he is no expert.


                        Quote: Mar. Tira
                        Every day ETHON TV is watched by 80 thousand people.


                        This is rather a bad indicator.


                        Quote: Mar. Tira
                        The competence of Kedmi, as I understand it, is more than that of all Jews on the site combined.


                        Why all of a sudden? He is an expert in what?

                        Quote: Mar. Tira
                        .Not one plane, but all


                        Well, you at least admit the mistake.


                        About the cost of the aircraft currently wrote below voyaka uh

                        Quote: Mar. Tira
                        But you must admit that such a sheepskin is not worth the hassle, especially since you are not waging a war. P / S. You still would have watched his interview. Jewish nationalism certainly exists, but there are also reasonable things.


                        Worth it. What voyaka uh wrote below about its price.

                        In recent years, Cadmie has become very much about Russian (it extols Russian weapons and strength, etc.), although it was not like that before and therefore it is popular on Russian Street.

                        In Israel, he is not interested in anyone as an expert, since in Israel there are enough real experts, and even more so, they are much more informed about what is happening in the Middle East and not only.
              3. +3
                25 June 2018 09: 54
                "One aircraft modification A will cost $ 94,8 million," ////

                Your data is out of date. Airplanes are getting cheaper as the production series increases.
                Now the modification A aircraft costs 85 million dollars, including the engine (the price of which
                11 million dollars).
                F-35 is now one of the CHEAPEST aircraft on the market, cheaper than all European ones.
                1. +1
                  25 June 2018 12: 31
                  Quote: voyaka uh
                  "A single modification A aircraft will cost 94,8 a million dollars,"

                  for everyone or for a certain circle?
                  and dumping has not gone anywhere from this world.
                  like Tesla ... winked
                2. +2
                  25 June 2018 13: 06
                  Quote: voyaka uh
                  F-35 is now one of the CHEAPEST aircraft on the market, cheaper than all European ones.

                  Office printers also seem cheap at the time of purchase (cheaper than cost). But then consumables - here comes the main earnings of manufacturers.
            2. +1
              25 June 2018 10: 47
              Quote: Tiras
              What is 1 billion dollars a year worth?

              And can you imagine what it is "1 billion dollars a year"? In nature, in the sense of nature ...
          2. 0
            25 June 2018 21: 32
            Quote: Mar. Tira
            Calculate how much the American maintenance of one crutch per year will cost you?


            “Perhaps more importantly, Israel has also secured a unique right to warehouse-level maintenance, including overhaul of engines and airframe components domestically. Again, other future Joint Strike Fighter operators will have to send their aircraft to designated facilities in specific countries. "

            “We will not go to Italy or anywhere else,” Colonel Maxim Orgad, head of the engineer department of the Israeli Aviation Aviation Division, head of the engineering division of Depot 2017 service, said on Sunday in Defense News in Defense News on Sunday. “These aircraft [F-22] will remain in Israel for what they need. "

            You -1
            1. 0
              26 June 2018 04: 18
              Ah, ah, ah! Is it not like a lobbyist of Jewish interests in the USA that has manifested itself again? They haven’t put any minuses for a long time. If only you had skulls !!!!!!!!!!!!!
      2. +2
        25 June 2018 09: 08
        Now from fantasy to reality
        Israel paid (under contracts for 19 aircraft from 2010 and for 14 aircraft from 2015) for $ 33. F-35I in the Israeli specification $ 4.75 billion. Add the accompanying expenses - if this is a “gift” then it’s somehow expensive.
        This contract caused heated debate in Israel, because with the same money it was possible to purchase at least 2 times more fully-operational F-15I fighters (or 3 times more F-16I ...) of the latest modifications that were fully operational in a Middle Eastern theater of warfare, moreover well developed by the Israeli air force
        1. +1
          25 June 2018 09: 22
          Quote: ArikKhab
          for 33 F-35I aircraft in the "Israeli" specification 4.75 billion dollars. Add related costs -


          And where does the information about 4. 75 billion come from?
        2. +3
          25 June 2018 09: 36
          Apparently, Israel refused to buy another one - the 3rd F-35 squadron, in favor of buying the latest F-15 modification.
          1. 0
            25 June 2018 22: 18
            Quote: borberd
            Apparently, Israel refused to buy another - the 3rd F-35 squadron, in favor of buying the latest F-15 modification



            "Finally, the price difference between the two aircraft is not really a factor, since the unit cost of the F-35I or the updated derivative of the F-15I is likely to be very similar, and Israel has already built the infrastructure to support both types."

            “So no, Israel’s potential interest in acquiring more F-15s compared to more F-35s currently has nothing to do with the effectiveness of the F-35s or even its capabilities anyway. In the eyes of the IAF, they’re it’s kind of like apples and oranges. "

            Translation from English
        3. +1
          25 June 2018 09: 59
          "This contract has caused heated debate in Israel," ///

          Disputes were BEFORE the trip of the delegation of Israeli military specialists from the Air Force
          to America at the Lockheed test site.
          The Air Force command unanimously chose the F-35 after they practically demonstrated
          its capabilities compared to the usual F-16 and F-15.
          1. +1
            25 June 2018 22: 28
            Above Kedmi posed a couple of “amateurish” questions, maybe you will “answer” them: F-35 shit in close combat, even compared to those that Izrail now has, he cannot “bear cast-iron” because he immediately loses his only “dignity” - low visibility, now, surrounded by Izrail, there is NO enemy of the 5th class fighter - WHY do we need this plane, FOR WHOM we need it? " lol
            I’ll add on my own - its “stealth” is only for American (there are no radars as some thought). Generals. The scientist who developed the "method of reducing visibility" as soon as the mattresses took it seriously (for the method) then de issued an article on the mountain (the whole world) and those describing "how to completely suppress methods of reducing visibility". tongue laughing That is, we see how the whole world is engaged in crap, realizing for certain that there is no "stealth" for a technically developed enemy !!! THIS is a counter-poip weapon
        4. 0
          25 June 2018 21: 55
          Quote: ArikKhab
          F-35I aircraft in the "Israeli" specification 4.75 billion dollars

          Counting other people's money is not DECENT! But if the initial cut is not something to measure.

          "US National Security Advisor Susan Rice announced the delivery of the F-15 on September 14 in connection with the announcement by Israel of a $ 38 billion military assistance package at the Department of State in Washington, DC. The agreement, which entered into force on October 1, 2018, pledged $ 38 billion to Israel over the next decade, including $ 33 billion in foreign military funds and $ 5 billion in missile defense.

          “This additional funding will allow Israel to renew the lion's share of its fleet of fighters, including the acquisition of additional F-35s and F-15s,” she said.
    3. Maz
      0
      25 June 2018 13: 15
      Not a kosher build. Salo ate next to the plane.
  2. +7
    25 June 2018 06: 54
    Fly to yourself .. don’t touch anyone ... And then bam! Five minutes later, rebooting the system!
    1. +7
      25 June 2018 07: 09
      Quote: Vard
      Fly to yourself .. don’t touch anyone ... And then bam! Five minutes later, rebooting the system!

      (new "update" available) lol
      1. +7
        25 June 2018 08: 19
        “The update detected a conflict with the pilot device, the device will be removed from the system” (bailout). Yes
        1. +2
          25 June 2018 09: 18
          pasha hi first try to restart the pilot lol
        2. +1
          25 June 2018 10: 27
          Quote: bouncyhunter
          “The update detected a conflict with the pilot device, the device will be removed from the system” (bailout). Yes

          =========
          good
          Joking, joking, and about 10 years ago, I was driving around my hometown - and in front of me there was a brand new cherry “Fiatik” - and a “transparant” was glued on the back of the bumper:
          System ERROR- driver is UNLOADED! laughing (I almost swallowed the steering wheel from laughter!)
          PS If someone in the "bourgeois mov" is weak, then with reference to the car this computer term can be translated like this: "System error - chauffeur "not loaded"!
          1. 0
            25 June 2018 10: 34
            Can unloaded ?
    2. 0
      25 June 2018 08: 47
      And installing updates))
    3. +4
      25 June 2018 10: 02
      F-35s have flown over 150,000 hours without a single accident.
      The absolute world record for reliability for the new model
      military aircraft.
      1. +6
        25 June 2018 10: 36
        Quote: voyaka uh
        F-35s have flown over 150,000 hours without a single accident.
        The absolute world record for reliability for the new model
        military aircraft.

        But he's still bad.
        Because not your laughing
      2. +2
        25 June 2018 12: 36
        Quote: voyaka uh
        F-35s have flown over 150,000 hours without a single accident.

        And here's the news in the topic !!!!! US Marines lost the first F-35
        https://rg.ru/2018/06/25/morskaia-pehota-ssha-lis
        hilas-pervogo-f-35.html? utm_source = warfiles.ru
  3. +2
    25 June 2018 06: 57
    The Jews have a holiday - "godfather" thrust the planes, roll out the grandmother Israel .... laughing ... and then what’s broken - then they’ll finish it ... laughing
    1. +1
      25 June 2018 12: 34
      Trump also has something to do with them ... through his daughter.
      More precisely, the husband's daughter. winked
  4. +6
    25 June 2018 06: 59
    technical malfunction of one of them
    Something often all sorts of malfunctions pop up. But the main thing is that gentlemen Jews are happy and happy as small children, which is perfectly visible in their comments on the site. Good luck F-35 ...
    1. +4
      25 June 2018 07: 04
      rotmistr60 (Gennady) Today, 06: 59 ...Good luck F-35...

      ... I put a stone in the ground? wink
    2. +20
      25 June 2018 07: 43
      We will never know about the failure of the Su-57. Why? And no one is interested in the Patam Shtam, which has no analogs in iron. There are no American sites watering this "miracle" every day. But then the Russian gossips and gossips, selflessly discuss any F-35. Funny laughing
      1. +7
        25 June 2018 08: 12
        You really don’t see the difference in the tests and shipment of serial equipment?))))
        1. +9
          25 June 2018 08: 44
          No, I don’t see. From time to time, technological or technical problems are found in any complex mechanism. At one time, on the famous and serial at that time French Mirages, there was a problem due to the fact that at certain angles of the attack he broke into a tailspin. Because of what they did not want to buy it. The Israelis solved this problem, and the technical solution was handed over to the French. Therefore, Mirages have become the main aircraft of Israel.
      2. +3
        25 June 2018 08: 15
        Quote: borberd
        nobody is interested in this unparalleled hardware

        The main thing is that everyone understands why Israel is acquiring the F-35. As a result, Israeli politicians and the military have a steady illusion of an unpunished strike on any country in the region. This is about the same violation of the balance of power as the deployment of an American missile defense system in Europe, only in this case the threat is directed against Iran and Syria, as Israeli politicians speak openly.
        Therefore, sooner or later, but the illusion of impunity and invulnerability of the F-35 and Israeli missile defense will inevitably lead to a big war. Maybe the Jews do not have this, but the Americans have in their blood to rob and kill weak nations and now they are simply trying to do what they are accustomed to. At the same time, the Islamic countries that you plunged into chaos in the Middle East have nothing to lose, millions of refugees, hundreds of thousands of dead, the economy is completely destroyed. But Israel has something to lose, and if you haven’t noticed, then in the USA and in Europe Jews are not at all welcome. So you will return all the way back to Russia - mother, and she will again protect her "prodigal children" from the unjust persecution of radical Islamists, as she once defended against the fascist genocide.
        1. +3
          25 June 2018 09: 17
          Unfortunately, in Israeli realities this is not an “illusion of impunity”, but a clear understanding of who is around and what intentions towards Israel (for example, Iran and its proxy - Hezbollah) they put at the forefront.
        2. +6
          25 June 2018 09: 43
          So all of you will return back to Russia - mother

          You’re smoky weed, however .....
          And if for garlic: do you need us there, in Russia?
          Here 99.999% of Russian forum users are just waiting for the last Jew to leave / disappear / disappear from Mother Russia. For the brambers, promissory notes and nightingales (and I understand the Russians in some way) were bored.
          So the era of the Jews in Russia is coming to an end. It was already in Spain 500+ years ago, in Poland, in Germany, in the Arab countries ... It was the turn of Russia. And we will somehow defend ourselves against radical Islamists.
          1. +1
            25 June 2018 11: 06
            Quote: brigadir
            It was already in Spain 500+ years ago

            the Spaniards want to return back, the embassies have lists of names of Sephardic Jews who have the right to obtain Spanish citizenship without any delay. And at the expense of airplanes, especially the aviators that are here on the site, they are well aware of how many accidents caused by cars in the Soviet era, how many pilots were lost. For two years I have been observing the F35 flight at the parade, the noise level compared to the F16, and even more so the F15 is much quieter. It doesn’t look as formidable as its predecessors, but it’s visually
          2. +1
            25 June 2018 11: 42
            come on, where does this percentage come from? 20 percent can and will be. We are waiting for the thief to trample from the perch. and how is a Jewish thief different from a Slavic thief in our government? the first will lead part of the loot to Israel, part to Cyprus, and the second will bring everything to Cyprus. but for ordinary citizens there is no difference in the results between the two, we will not see money in either case.
            1. 0
              25 June 2018 11: 59
              Quote: departure
              come on, where does this percentage come from? 20 percent can and will be. We are waiting for the thief to trample from the perch. and how is a Jewish thief different from a Slavic thief in our government? the first will lead part of the loot to Israel, part to Cyprus, and the second will bring everything to Cyprus. but for ordinary citizens there is no difference in the results between the two, we will not see money in either case.

              I do not quite understand your post. What thieves are you talking about? What does the government have to do with it?
              Power spoils everyone - without dividing into nationalities. And somehow I do not see Jews in the Russian government.
              I'm talking about people - just people who live in the neighborhood: engineers, doctors, teachers, hard workers.
              Found a ridiculous list ... does anyone really believe that ?!
              President of the Russian Federation Dmitry Medvedev (JEWISH)
              Composition of the Government of the Russian Federation (2009)
              Prime Minister - Putin (Shalomov) Vladimir Vladimirovich (JEWISH)
              First Deputy Prime Minister - Viktor A. Zubkov (NEVER)
              First Deputy Prime Minister - Shuvalov Igor Ivanovich (JEWISH)
              Deputy Prime Minister - Ivanov Sergey Borisovich (JEWISH?)
              Deputy Prime Minister - Kozak Dmitry Nikolaevich (JEWISH)
              Deputy Prime Minister, Minister of Finance - Alexei Kudrin (NON-JEWS?)
              Deputy Prime Minister - Igor Sechin (JEWISH)
              Deputy Prime Minister - Sergei Sobyanin (NON-JEWS?)
              Deputy Prime Minister - Zhukov Alexander Dmitrievich (JEWISH?)
              Ministry of Internal Affairs - Nurgaliev Rashid Gumarovich (JEWISH)
              Ministry of Health and Social Development - Tatyana A. Golikova (NON-JEWISH)
              Ministry of Energy - Shmatko Sergey Ivanovich (NON-JEWS)
              Ministry of Foreign Affairs - Sergey Lavrov (JEWISH)
              Ministry of Culture and Mass Communications - Alexander Avdeev (JEWISH)
              Ministry of Defense - Anatoly Eduardovich Serdyukov (JEWISH?)
              Ministry of Regional Development - Basargin Viktor Fedorovich (NON-JEWS?)
              Ministry of Communications and Mass Media - Shchegolev Igor Olegovich (JEWISH)
              Ministry of Agriculture - Skrynnik Elena Borisovna (JEWISH)
              Ministry of Education and Science - Andrey Fursenko (JEWISH)
              Ministry of Industry and Trade - Viktor Khristenko (JEWISH)
              Ministry of Civil Defense, Emergencies and Disaster Relief - Sergey Kuiguetovich Shoigu (JEWS ?, mother - Alexandra Y. Shoigu)
              Ministry of Sport, Tourism and Youth Policy - Mutko Vitaliy Leontyevich (JEWISH)
              Ministry of Transport - Igor Levitin (JEWISH)
              Ministry of Justice - Konovalov Alexander Vladimirovich (JEWISH?)
              Ministry of Economic Development - Nabiullina Elvira Sahipzadovna (JEWISH?)
              1. +2
                25 June 2018 13: 27
                It’s not about nationality, but about people and the system.
                power spoils everyone, here you are right, that is what I wanted to convey.
      3. +3
        25 June 2018 08: 27
        Quote: borberd
        We will never know about the failure of the Su-57. Why? And no one is interested in the Patam Shtam, which has no analogs in iron. There are no American sites watering this "miracle" every day. But then the Russian gossips and gossips, selflessly discuss any F-35. Funny laughing

        Yes! With the F-35 you won’t be lost ... But grief is enough laughing
        1. +2
          25 June 2018 09: 12
          Do not worry so clearly. We will also dump you without sparing.
          1. 0
            27 June 2018 19: 20
            Quote: borberd
            Do not worry so clearly. We will also dump you without sparing.

            Oh god Keep the Promised Land! And then they themselves will not be able to protect themselves with such an aircraft (F-35) laughing
        2. +2
          25 June 2018 09: 20
          But if it’s real (without blah blah about the F-35) - what options are there in the aviation market today? F-22 is not produced, Su-57 is not in series (and political differences will not allow Israel to buy Russian equipment). What else ? There is nothing.....
      4. 0
        25 June 2018 18: 22
        You’re our laughing one, we’ll look at your reaction when your penguin pours down in a battle with the Su-30, because the Su-57e will be felling the F-22 at this time. And, yes, to our gossips to the ficus discuss your buggy irons.
        1. 0
          25 June 2018 22: 40
          Quote: Nord
          when your penguin pours down in battle with the Su-30


          "Penguin"
          In action, but here's what, ALREADY TURNED IN METAL IN SYRIA:
          SU-24 2 pcs; SU-33; SU-25; SU-30SM !!!!!; MIG-29; AN-26; KA-52; MI-8AMTSH; MI-8AMTSH-V;
          MI-28 2 pcs; UAV 4 pcs;

          I ALREADY WRITTEN WRITTEN THAT HERE IS NOT KISEL - TV!
          And they don’t play at one goal!
          When the opponent is real, it turns out 3-0 but not in your favor!
    3. +10
      25 June 2018 07: 54
      Quote: rotmistr60
      But the main thing is that gentlemen Jews are happy and happy as small children, which is perfectly visible in their comments on the site.


      Judging by the comments on the site, it’s just not the Jews who rejoice.

      Just a Russian reader who has almost no information about problems with new Russian planes (which cannot be missing) and / or information appears very rarely, is of course surprised and delighted with the problems with the F-35, which appear quite openly in the press, which appear in open reports, etc.

      What about the Jews? Jews fly these planes, planes take part in military operations, while some are ironic.
      1. +2
        25 June 2018 09: 17
        Quote: Tiras
        Just to the Russian reader, who has almost no information about the problems with the new Russian aircraft.


        One cannot but agree. In general, it will be necessary to put one step a bit later, when Su-57 swoops for more hours and then analyze it.

        However, if you look objectively, military aviation is our forte. And everything that was designed and released before the Su-57 flies, and flies completely to itself. And 57 will fly, will not go anywhere.

        Well, about the comments ... The costs of education policy, alas.
        1. +2
          25 June 2018 14: 18
          Banshee
          "Su-57 as if flies"
          To fly and how to fly are two big differences. good
        2. 0
          26 June 2018 01: 03
          I agree, but practically all of this was developed in the USSR.
          Another ideology, responsibility - now at the forefront we have to fill our pocket and ..che there?
          hence the deadlines for mass production of all military equipment.
          and so it will be — and if the changes affect the existing system for the worse, unfortunately.
  5. +4
    25 June 2018 07: 18
    The main thing is that the pilots are satisfied. And the planes stopped flying with reflectors. Well, let our S-400 practice! Well, please ... Radars must be calibrated wassat
    1. +6
      25 June 2018 07: 39
      Israel is studying the S-400 no less than the S-400 is studying Israeli aircraft.
  6. +2
    25 June 2018 07: 36
    Spien unscrewed the lock nut (s) laughing
  7. +6
    25 June 2018 07: 41
    This news 100 years in the afternoon. VO is not operative.
    1. +1
      25 June 2018 08: 05
      VO is just a news aggregator. Some articles here appear very late.
    2. +2
      25 June 2018 08: 31
      Quote: professor
      This news 100 years in the afternoon. VO is not operative.

      Nobody is forgotten and nothing is forgotten! Better late than ... no one laughing
    3. 0
      25 June 2018 08: 41
      Professor (Sokolov Oleg)
      You are mistaken, this is fresh news. See below my comment (from the site https://oleggranovsky.livejournal.com/)
      1. +1
        25 June 2018 08: 47
        I’m not mistaken. The planes took off a week ago. WEEK. At the same time, a failure alarm was reported. VO published this news a week late. hi

        PS
        1. 0
          25 June 2018 13: 03
          Professor
          "I’m not mistaken. The planes took off a week ago. WEEK. At the same time, a breakdown alarm was reported. VO published this news a week late." It depends on which end to approach.
          "Israeli media report that 5th-generation American fighter F-35s arrived at one of the Israeli air force bases with an almost weekly delay."
          What is the stale news? drinks
  8. +3
    25 June 2018 08: 17
    A trifle, but nice
  9. +2
    25 June 2018 08: 18
    Quote: borberd
    There are no American sites watering this "miracle" every day.

    In fact, there is something to say? laughing .
  10. 0
    25 June 2018 08: 25
    Otmaz is being prepared if they are "planted" from C300 or C125, then they will write to the media "for technical reasons it has fallen"
  11. +4
    25 June 2018 08: 37
    The 10th, 11th and 12th Adir (F-35I) arrived in Israel

    June 24th, 23: 41

    Tonight, Sunday 24.06.18/10/11, the 12th, 35th and 140th Adir (F-XNUMXI) landed in Israel at the Nevatim airbase and became part of the XNUMXth ha-Nesher ha-Zahav squadron ( "Golden Eagle"). Soon they will join the operational activities of the squadron. At the same time, the process of preparing additional pilots and technicians for aircraft of this type is ongoing.
    The aircraft flight numbers are 916, 917 and 918, the manufacturer numbers are AS-10, AS-11 and AS-12, respectively. The planes took off from the Lockheed Martin plant in Texas on 18.06.18/2/20.06.18 and were supposed to land in Israel on Wednesday XNUMX/XNUMX/XNUMX after a flight with XNUMX intermediate landings.

    The first scheduled landing was to take place at the Bangor airport in Maine. However, during flight B / N 918, the lamp of the technical failure warning system lit up (i.e., there might have been a malfunction, there might have been a false alarm) and the planes landed at Portsmouth International Airport at Pease in Portsmouth New Hampshire State.

    Already on June 21.06.18, 24.06.18 a message appeared that the plane was repaired and the intended arrival time was June 10, 83 in the afternoon. On the same day in the morning, planes flew from Pease, in parallel with the McGuire Air Force Base in New Jersey, the KC-0080 B / N 35-XNUMX refueled and joined the F-XNUMX over the Atlantic Ocean.

    That afternoon, the F-35 landed at the Lajes Air Base in the Azores (Portugal). And again, not everything was smooth with B / N 918: when landing, he almost collided with a flock of birds. The pilot immediately stopped landing and took the plane up and right, made a circle and landed on the second attempt.
  12. +2
    25 June 2018 08: 43
    It remains to wait for f-35 to fall from heaven to earth and the global gesheft will be sad in an instant ...., no, don’t wish evil to the enemy, let him fly on this miracle shootron ....
    1. +6
      25 June 2018 09: 08
      I understand that you are a noble engineer Lockheed Martin, from cover to cover you learned the technical documentation for the F-35, and on the basis of this knowledge express your technical opinion?
      Or, after all, an ignoramus profane who has his own - "dissenting opinion"? No.
      1. +2
        25 June 2018 09: 48
        Lockheed Martin, say if this company produced the Starfighter f-104 and also imposed it on its European partners, the noble story was well cut and the loot was well repeated, everything repeats in the world and for you it will be sweet for experts and engineering vinegar ... engineering experts ... .
        1. +5
          25 June 2018 11: 04
          She also releases the F-16. Yes, yes - the very ones that shot down Syrian planes in the 82nd in the Bekaa Valley. Tell you the score, or google yourself?
          So you are also a notable economist and specialist in the "dough cut"? So many abilities in one individual that I just envy hi
          1. +1
            25 June 2018 12: 29
            The f-16 did not have such laudatory PR and he proved himself in business, and f-35 so far in the words of Israel ....
            1. +1
              25 June 2018 13: 02
              The F-16 is at the stage of the beginning of mass production and development in different countries,
              equivalent to the current stage of the F-35, there were already several tens lost in air accidents with bailouts of pilots.
              And they scolded F-16 much more than scolded F-35 these days.
              1. +1
                25 June 2018 13: 06
                What to argue, time and history will judge everyone ....
              2. 0
                25 June 2018 20: 22
                Kamrad Voyaka, read my comment below., Regarding our dispute with you. I would like to hear your thoughts on this matter.
    2. +3
      25 June 2018 10: 43
      Quote: anjey
      It remains to wait for f-35 to fall from heaven to earth and the global gesheft will be sad in an instant ...., no, don’t wish evil to the enemy, let him fly on this miracle shootron ....

      Of course it will fall. After all, it is heavier than air, CEP. fool

      PS
      The fate of a combat aircraft is to bring down and be shot down. When we lose F-35 in battle, we will not be killed in grief.
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  14. +3
    25 June 2018 09: 47
    Quote: Mar. Tira
    The fact of the matter is that Israel does not buy them, but receives them. But for this "gift" they will pay dearly.

    Bullshit ...
    Israeli companies received orders for $ 35 million from Lockheed Martin Aircraft Corporation under an F-770I procurement contract. Israel builds airplane wings and helmets for pilots.
    The helmet developed by Israel will allow pilots of future generation fighter jets to “see through the cockpit” of the aircraft. Instead of the usual display on the dashboard, a computer-synthesized image will be fed directly to the helmet of the pilot’s helmet, providing it with the hints necessary for flight, navigation and combat.
    The helmet allows you to automatically switch between video modes. This actually makes the aircraft “transparent” to the pilot.
    Also, the helmet is a kind of command center: high-precision target designation of all airborne weapons is tied to the movements of the pilot's head and eyes.
  15. 0
    25 June 2018 12: 23
    Strips,
    Quote: Tiras
    Worth it. What voyaka uh wrote below about its price

    Well, okay. I think no one has left the Americans with their noses. Moreover, they have Ukraine with might and main. And in the proverb when the crest was born, the Jew burst into tears.
  16. 0
    25 June 2018 20: 19
    The question is for Comrade Voyaka, who so praised f-35 and said that Israeli f-35s flew and bombed military facilities, somewhere in Iran, or in Iraq. I then doubted whether the Israeli generals would have taken such a risk, or rather their Washington owners? So, a couple of weeks passed and my doubts became a reality.
    1. 0
      26 June 2018 01: 03
      They flew to Iran for reconnaissance. And they bombed in the depths of Syria.
      1. 0
        26 June 2018 20: 39
        I repeat once again, aka Stanislavsky - "I do not believe." The latest, most secret airplane - horseradish knows where, while it had to be planted after a couple of hours of flight, because the light came on. Even if the Jews would decide on this, then the Washington Reich Chancellery would not allow.
  17. 0
    25 June 2018 21: 54
    And what about the one that “choked the bird”? lol Taki - fse? laughing

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