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Are the Slavs united?

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25 June is the Day of friendship and unity of the Slavs in the world. This holiday personifies the aspiration of the Slavic peoples for integration and friendly interaction.


The appearance of the Day of Friendship and Unity of the Slavs was primarily associated with an attempt to prevent the disintegration of the East Slavic world after the collapse of the Soviet Union. The Russians, Ukrainians and Belarusians who lived for centuries in the same state were, as a result of the collapse of the Soviet country, divided, divided between sovereign states formed in the post-Soviet space. At the same time, Ukraine did not express any special desire for integration with Russia and Belarus even then, in the 1990s. In Kiev, the political forces that chose Russophobia as one of the main components of the ideology of "political Ukrainians" established themselves in power. In contrast to Ukraine, Russia and Belarus since the middle of the 1990-ies. sought to integrate, rapprochement each other. The Union State of Russia and Belarus was created, which still exists and plays an important role in the dialogue between the two countries. Russian-Belarusian relations, despite numerous obstacles and problems, still remain the warmest.

Are the Slavs united?


Slavic-speaking peoples are among the most numerous in the Indo-European language family. They are settled in the vast territories of Eurasia: from Germany in the west to the Pacific coast of Russia and Sakhalin Island in the east, from Montenegro and Macedonia to the Russian Far North. The total number of Slavic peoples currently ranges from 300 to 350 million people, even more in the world of those in whom Slavic blood flows. After all, it is not a secret that many Germans and Hungarians, Romanians and Turks have a significant Slavic impurity.

Slavic peoples are divided into Eastern Slavs (Russians, Ukrainians, Belarusians), Western Slavs (Poles, Czechs, Slovaks, Kashubians, Lusatians, Moravians, Silesians, Slovians) and southern Slavs (Bulgarians, Serbs, Croats, Bosnians, Macedonians, Slovenes, Montenegrins ). Despite the linguistic community, the Slavic peoples have different history, culture, belong to different denominations. Historically, the majority of Slavs are Orthodox Christians (Russians, Serbs, Montenegrins, Bulgarians, Macedonians, the overwhelming majority of Belarusians and Ukrainians), Western Slavs and part of southern Slavs profess Catholicism and Protestantism, some groups of Slavic people converted to Islam at one time (Bosnian Muslims, Pomaks - Bulgarians Muslims).

Over the last millennium too many different, often tragic events occurred in the life of the Slavic peoples of Eurasia. The history of the Slavs is a history of victories and defeats, bloody wars and tremendous successes, the triumph of strong powers and centuries of enemy occupation. Russia has defended its independence for centuries, converging in wars with the most powerful and dangerous adversaries, be it German “knight dogs” or the hordes of Genghis Khan, the Swedes and Ottoman Turks, the French of Napoleon and the army of Hitler's Germany. Less numerous Slavic peoples of the Balkans and Eastern Europe were much less fortunate. For centuries, the southern Slavs lived under the Ottoman yoke, and the western Slavs - under the rule of Austria-Hungary, in which they still remained the people of the "second class".

Different history left its mark on the culture, political behavior, mentality of various Slavic peoples. So, Poles, Czechs, Slovaks, Croats, Slovenes developed as a whole in the orbit of Western European civilization, confessing Catholicism or Protestantism, using the Latin alphabet. At the same time, Poland has repeatedly fought with Russia, and when its part was part of the Russian Empire, the Poles often launched anti-Russian uprisings.

At the same time, it is impossible not to note the great contribution of the Poles to the development of the Russian state, Russian science and culture. Nikolay Przhevalsky, Konstantin Tsiolkovsky, Sigismund Levanevsky, Gleb Krzhizhanovsky, Konstantin Rokossovsky - only the first names that you remember, thinking about the Polish track in Russian history. In present-day Poland, they try not to talk about Russian-Polish positive relations, since this goes against the paradigm of the modern Polish state, which represents Russia as an unequivocal enemy. It is so beneficial for the West to turn the Western and Southern Slavs into nations hostile to Russia, to pull them out from under Russian cultural and political influence, to bring the territories inhabited by them under control.

At one time, the Austro-Hungarian Empire, frightened by the growth of pan-Slavist sentiments in Eastern Europe, did everything possible to set up Poles, Czechs, Slovaks, Ruthenians and others against the Russian Empire. For this, both the carrot and the carrot were used. Pro-Russian political and public figures, publicists and writers were in every way persecuted, including physical violence, and those who agreed to cooperate with the authorities and oppose Russia and the Russian people were supported by all sorts of preferences.

The project "political Ukrainians" come from the same place, from Austria-Hungary. It was in the depths of the Austro-Hungarian diplomatic and intelligence services that the idea of ​​creating Ukrainian nationalism as the antipode of Russia and Russian influence arose. The project turned out to be successful and very tenacious - a century and a half passed, and some political forces in Ukraine are still angry about Russia and the Russians. Only instead of Austria-Hungary is the United States patronizing them now.

In the Balkans, the situation was similar. Croatia and Slovenia have always been a stronghold of Western influence, but if the Slovenes, due to their number and political role, were distinguished by a great peacefulness, the Croats always had increased political ambitions. Austria-Hungary and then Germany set the Croats on the Serbs - a people speaking the same language, but professing Orthodoxy and writing in Cyrillic. The Serbs are Balkan Russians, the closest and most friendly Russian people in South-Eastern Europe. Unlike even the Bulgarians, whom Russia helped to break free from Ottoman rule, Serbia never turned weapon against Russia. When the Serbs were bad, the Russian Empire placed the Serbian colonists on their lands in Novorossia, however, we also behaved towards the Bulgarians and even the non-Slavic Christian peoples of Eastern Europe — Greek, Wallachian (Romanian) settlers and even Orthodox Albanians appeared in Novorossiya and Tavria .



In the First and Second World Wars, the Serbs fought alongside the Russians. Relations between the Serbs and the Russians are a typical example of Slavic unity and fraternity, unfortunately so rare in the modern world. In contrast to the Serbs, the Croats were rather negative towards Russia. At one time, in the second half of the XIX - early XX centuries. Austro-Hungarian authorities managed to cope with the pro-Russian sentiments in Croatia, actively using for this the incitement of religious hatred between Catholics - Croats and Orthodox Serbs, and hatred of their neighbors - Serbs. Everyone knows what atrocities committed Croatian ustashi during the Second World War, destroying both Roma and Jews, and brothers - Serb Slavs, despite the ethnic and linguistic kinship.

The “Independent State of Croatia” became a loyal satellite of fascist Italy and Hitler’s Germany, and its punishers, in their cruelty, left far behind even the SS executioners. After World War II, Serbs, Croats and other Slavic peoples lived relatively peacefully in a unified socialist Yugoslavia, but the collapse of the socialist camp and the collapse of the SFRY as a unified state led to a bloody war, accompanied by cruel violence against the civilian population. The war in Yugoslavia, in which the Slavs killed each other, became the first large-scale and very bloody war in Europe in the second half of the twentieth century. Until now, the peoples participating in it cannot forget each other the events of those years, especially since the mutual hatred is vigorously ignited by the biased Western media and homegrown nationalists.

Another blow to Slavic unity was the disintegration of the Federal Republic of Yugoslavia, inspired by the United States and NATO, a state that emerged on the wreckage of the SFRY and included Serbia and Montenegro. Contradictions between the Serbs and Montenegrins were absent from the very beginning, because they speak the same language, profess Orthodoxy, and historically have always collaborated with each other and fought in numerous wars on the side of each other. Accordingly, Russia has developed deep and very good relations with Montenegro.

The West managed to drive a wedge between the Serbs and Montenegrins, to turn the Montenegrin elites into an instrument of their influence, and then set the stage for the collapse of the union state. Montenegro was hastily admitted to NATO, and all just to wrest it from the Serbian and Russian influence. In Washington and Brussels, the possibility of the appearance of a Russian naval base on the Montenegrin coast was considered a nightmare, and therefore they did everything possible to prevent it from becoming a reality. It was for this purpose that the FRY was collapsed, and Montenegro became a state controlled by the West under external control.



Speaking about relations between Russia and Bulgaria, another significant South Slavic country, it is worth noting that the positions of the Bulgarian elite and the Bulgarian people have always been very different. To begin with, the Bulgarian monarchs who ruled in the first half of the twentieth century were ethnic Germans, representatives of the Saxe-Coburg-Gothic dynasty. Germany had a very large influence on Bulgaria and its policies, although at one time it did not render this country even a small fraction of the support that the Russian empire exercised. The very political independence of Bulgaria was largely achieved thanks to the “blood and sweat” of Russian soldiers. It was Russia that in the centuries-old confrontation with the Ottoman Empire finally achieved the political liberation of Balkan Christians — first Greece, then Bulgaria and Romania. The Bulgarian people are well aware of this, but the Bulgarian elites have always tried to get the most benefit for themselves and were willing to cooperate with anyone, just to pay.

However, knowing perfectly well that the Bulgarians would not fight with the Russians, Bulgarian Tsar Boris III in 1941 did not send Bulgarian troops to the Eastern Front and did not declare war on the Soviet Union. Although in other European wars of the Axis countries, including the occupation of Greece and the invasion of Yugoslavia, Bulgaria took part. In the post-war period, relations between Bulgaria and the Soviet Union were particularly warm, Bulgaria was even called another Soviet republic. It was one of the few countries in which Soviet citizens had the opportunity to travel in the era of the Iron Curtain.

Now in Bulgaria, pro-Russian sentiments are also strong, although it is impossible to deny the fact of the very strong influence of the West on the policies of the Bulgarian leadership and some political parties in the country. However, we should not forget that now Bulgaria, like most countries of Eastern Europe, is very dependent on financial assistance from both the European Union and the United States, so Sofia is forced to adhere to the Euro-Atlantic line, which cannot be said of most simple Bulgarians who keep warm attitude towards Russia and the Russian people.



Given the current world and European political situation, Slavic unity (if it is understood in the political aspect) appears more like a myth than a reality. However, the contradictions between the countries do not prevent ordinary people from communicating with each other, cultural organizations to hold festivals and days of Slavic culture. “People’s diplomacy” is sometimes more effective than official meetings at the government level. Nevertheless, the crisis of the Slavic world today is difficult not to recognize.

Of the Slavic states, only Russia and (to a lesser extent) Belarus and Serbia retain their independence and emphasize their right to historical uniqueness and difference from the Western world. The rest of the Slavic states of Eastern Europe are now fully in the orbit of Western influence. And we are talking not only about such traditionally pro-Western countries as Poland or Croatia, but also about Montenegro, Macedonia, and Bulgaria. The true rebirth of the Slavic world can only be associated with Russia, which historically has been the engine and protector of European Slavism.
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  1. wooja
    wooja 25 June 2018 15: 12
    +8
    Initially, the failed project of pan-Slavism, which caused enormous harm to Russia. Byzantine and Turkish domination ... Russia was simply bred into grandmas, neither brothers nor straits. Thoroughly lohan
    1. Vend
      Vend 25 June 2018 15: 28
      +7
      Unfortunately, the Slavs were never united. Throughout history, they have been constantly at odds. Who is to blame? Insidious neighbor? Geographical location? The Slavs themselves? There are many reasons
      1. Grandfather
        Grandfather 25 June 2018 17: 16
        +1
        Are the Slavs united?
        gee ... neighbors flail in blood ...
        1. Vladimir 5
          Vladimir 5 25 June 2018 20: 10
          +8
          Too all neighboring states and nations are afraid of the unity of the Slavs, and are doing everything to quarrel and unleash internecine wars. (an example is modern Ukraine). In this, both German and English strategists do not shun anything, not even the assassination of the Russian monarchs (Paul 1, Alexander 3) and other Slavic leaders. In addition, foreign monarchs were put on the thrones of the Slavic states; they continued anti-Slavic politics. Today, Russia does not even have pro-Russian politics, the reasons are clear, the government is not Russian and anti-Russian ...
        2. Normal ok
          Normal ok 25 June 2018 23: 57
          0
          Quote: Dead Day
          Are the Slavs united?
          gee ... neighbors flail in blood ...

          Lovely scolding - amuse)) Only the consequences are not childish.
      2. MPN
        MPN 25 June 2018 18: 30
        +6
        Voting results who is for Yulia Tymoshenko in \ in Ukraine
        speaking at one time for the nuclear bombing of Russia, 22,8% of Ukrainian citizens would vote.
        Here it is and the unity of the Slavs ... historical ...
        1. Starikan
          Starikan 25 June 2018 18: 44
          +3
          Quote: MPN
          Voting results who is for Yulia Tymoshenko in \ in Ukraine
          speaking at one time for the nuclear bombing of Russia, 22,8% of Ukrainian citizens would vote.
          Here it is and the unity of the Slavs ... historical ...

          We are separated by the West and it is a fact! In general, the Russian Orthodox faith, Russia is called the third Rome, the followers of Byzantium, and we still keep the brand, even despite the struggle with religion in the USSR! But the Russian soldiers were moving already at the end of the war with the words “Slavs” ahead .... and faith was .. Even Stalin understood that faith was the main thing for us and he began to let out the monks who remained from the Cheka’s purge .. (they exterminated a lot of them at the time of the revolution, some "comrades" in the Cheka ") Vera is alive, Russia is alive, the only way is nothing else .. hi
          1. Talgat
            Talgat 25 June 2018 20: 11
            +3
            Quote: Starikan
            We are disconnected by the West and this is a fact
            Definitely!
            But in fact, one should not think about the mythical "Slavic" brotherhood - but about the brotherhood of the peoples of Russia. It has long been an axiom of geopolitics - that there is Europe and the West, there is China and India, and there is Eurasia (it is interesting that the western leading geopolitics from Mahan to Mackinder and even Russian Gumilyov are united in this)
            Those Buryats and Tatars, Mongols and Kazakhs are those who will always be with the Russian people
            1. Starikan
              Starikan 25 June 2018 20: 21
              +1
              Quote: Talgat
              But in fact, one should not think about the mythical "Slavic" brotherhood - but about the brotherhood of the peoples of Russia.

              First, this is mandatory, since the Russians have always been the foundation and cementing composition of Russia (many "brothers" have cut us))
              Quote: Talgat
              Those Buryats and Tatars, Mongols and Kazakhs are those who will always be with the Russian people

              Well, not always of course, especially in the 90s, it all became clear to us (peace, friendship is all Tuva ..!) The Army and Navy are our "Brothers and Allies" .. ALWAYS have been and will be! And there will be no freebies anymore .. soldier
              You all respect STRENGTH and money, then you are with us, until the last ..
      3. Alber
        Alber 25 June 2018 18: 47
        +3
        Quote: Wend
        Unfortunately, the Slavs were never united. Throughout history, they have been constantly at odds. Who is to blame? Insidious neighbor? Geographical location? The Slavs themselves? There are many reasons

        The Slavic people have long been divided and pitted among themselves by Anglo-Saxon Judaism. "The Englishwoman is crap ..."
        Zionofashists take revenge on the Slavic people for the defeat of the predatory, Jewish Khazaria, sleep and see how to spoil Russia first and destroy it, and enslave the Russian people with debt into slavery ...
        1. Maksus
          Maksus 25 June 2018 22: 11
          +10
          Yes, everyone doesn’t care about Russia and Her people, but don’t care about oil and gas. Calm down already, no one except our GOVERNMENT is our enemy. What Russia did the USA bad? Nothing, but any of our own riffraff ...
          1. Alber
            Alber 26 June 2018 20: 14
            +1
            Quote: Maksus
            and to everyone according to FIG and to Russia and Her people,

            the Zionists don’t care about you, but for the indigenous people: Slavic, Finno-Ugric, Turkic and other peoples, the fate of the country is not indifferent
            1. Maksus
              Maksus 26 June 2018 20: 23
              +3
              Are you root or something? Judging by the comments, you are a human being far-sighted and evil, so write all kinds of garbage here.
      4. -Pollux
        -Pollux 25 June 2018 20: 01
        +1
        Quote: Wend
        Unfortunately, the Slavs were never united.

        Slavs - the European name of the Rus. Here the Germans do not call themselves Germans, and the Chinese do not call themselves Chinese.
        1. Vend
          Vend 26 June 2018 09: 10
          +2
          Quote: Pollux
          Quote: Wend
          Unfortunately, the Slavs were never united.

          Slavs - the European name of the Rus. Here the Germans do not call themselves Germans, and the Chinese do not call themselves Chinese.

          The term Slavs appeared even before Europe, as such. All European chronographs were written in Latin. The term Slavs also appears in Byzantine chronographs. Rus (rugs) is only one tribe on the territory of Western Europe, the other Slavic-speaking tribes were called differently, it was also on the territory of Russia. Do not substitute fantasies for facts.
          1. -Pollux
            -Pollux 26 June 2018 14: 20
            0
            Quote: Wend
            Rus (rugs) is only one tribe in Western Europe

            You simply don’t recognize the language you speak, as if it were foreign to you.
            I will draw an associative series: black, yellow, brown, red, gray and light brown. This is a race.
            Russes and Russians are a separate race to which all ... fair-haired belong. And anticipating your ridicule and accusations of fascism - I am not Russian, although Russian is for me as a native of Russia.
            Quote: Wend
            The term Slavs appeared even before Europe, as such.

            Nobody knows this, just the speculation of Western historiography.
            Quote: Wend
            Do not substitute fantasies for facts.

            Where you saw the facts, they are in the dreams of the Russophobic zapadentsev.
            1. Vend
              Vend 26 June 2018 14: 30
              0
              Quote: Pollux
              Quote: Wend
              Rus (rugs) is only one tribe in Western Europe

              You simply don’t recognize the language you speak, as if it were foreign to you.
              I will draw an associative series: black, yellow, brown, red, gray and light brown. This is a race.
              Russes and Russians are a separate race to which all ... fair-haired belong. And anticipating your ridicule and accusations of fascism - I am not Russian, although Russian is for me as a native of Russia.
              Quote: Wend
              The term Slavs appeared even before Europe, as such.

              Nobody knows this, just the speculation of Western historiography.
              Quote: Wend
              Do not substitute fantasies for facts.

              Where you saw the facts, they are in the dreams of the Russophobic zapadentsev.

              Stop doing fantasies. Yes, and so historically illiterate.
              1. -Pollux
                -Pollux 26 June 2018 15: 26
                0
                Quote: Wend
                Stop doing fantasies. Yes, and so historically illiterate.

                Stop doing fantasies. Yes, and so historically illiterate.
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                  1. -Pollux
                    -Pollux 26 June 2018 15: 59
                    0
                    Quote: Wend
                    You first get at least a historical education.

                    I read enough historical literature to understand how far historians are from reality, including historical. Academics write the new history of Ukraine, do you think it is true? The history of other states, including the history of the whole world, was written in the same way. There is no truth in it, but only fiction for the sake of the political conjuncture.
                    And historians write all nonsense about a million Persians near Thermopylae or about six hundred thousand Mongols who attacked Russia, academics write, with a historical education, but without knowledge of the natural sciences - oaks from science. And should I believe such dobloids?
                    1. Vend
                      Vend 26 June 2018 16: 12
                      0
                      Quote: Pollux
                      Quote: Wend
                      You first get at least a historical education.

                      I read enough historical literature to understand how far historians are from reality, including historical. Academics write the new history of Ukraine, do you think it is true? The history of other states, including the history of the whole world, was written in the same way. There is no truth in it, but only fiction for the sake of the political conjuncture.
                      And historians write all nonsense about a million Persians near Thermopylae or about six hundred thousand Mongols who attacked Russia, academics write, with a historical education, but without knowledge of the natural sciences - oaks from science. And should I believe such dobloids?

                      Why are historians with world renown who have been studying all their life one historical literature that has read enough historical literature before you laughing laughing laughing
                      1. -Pollux
                        -Pollux 26 June 2018 16: 27
                        0
                        Quote: Wend
                        Why are historians with world renown who have been studying all their life one historical literature that has read enough historical literature before you

                        I gave you real examples of how “historians with world names” write history, but instead of answering, you turn to personalities.
                        The participants of the Second World War are still alive, but they are rewriting its history with might and main, but you will answer me again and you will insult.
                        Tell me how could historians write nonsense about the millionth Persian army near Thermopylae? But because they were illiterate politicized ignoramuses. Such are the historians - not educated.
        2. I am Russian
          I am Russian 26 June 2018 10: 03
          0
          Rus, Rus is not a Slavic word. google the etymology of the word "Rus"
          1. -Pollux
            -Pollux 26 June 2018 14: 22
            0
            Quote: I'm Russian
            Rus, Rus is not a Slavic word. google the etymology of the word "Rus"

            I will not argue Slavic or not, but Russia is a Russian word and it has many root words in Russian.
  2. Wolverine
    Wolverine 25 June 2018 15: 30
    +9
    Everything is corny here, bros appear on the horizon in two cases, as in that anecdote about the “two ways”, or something from what is needed or save for the sake of Christ ...
    1. Vard
      Vard 25 June 2018 18: 46
      +4
      And when we could neither one or the other ... easily sold us ... or betrayed us ...
    2. sapporo1959
      sapporo1959 25 June 2018 18: 55
      +5
      Well, why nod at the little brothers if the face itself is crooked? If the elder brother is sensible, then the rest are no worse, but if, so why nod ..?
  3. solzh
    solzh 25 June 2018 15: 33
    +13
    The historical analysis in the article is presented very well, it can be said perfectly, but ... At present, and in the near future, there is no need to talk about the unity of the Slavs. Too we Slavs are divided and hostile to each other. Poland - is one of the main Russophobic countries in Europe, in the Balkans, hostility between the Slavs due to the Yugoslav crisis and thanks to the west does not pass. The Slavic countries are now seeking to enter, and many have already joined NATO and the European Union, jeopardizing their Slavic culture, and hence the very existence of the Slavic people. In relations between Belarus and Russia, the same is not going smoothly, there is no need to talk about Ukraine, everyone knows what is happening there. The authorities of our country, as it is not seen in the aspirations of unity of the Slavs. The revival of pan-Slavism can be a good idiology among the Slavs. But the West does not need this. The West needs discord and enmity between the Slavs. In the west, Stalin’s words are remembered: “If the Slavs are united and in solidarity, no one will lift a finger in the future,” therefore, the West will continue to impede the unity of the Slavs and counteract the revival of pan-Slavism in the world.
    1. cost
      cost 25 June 2018 17: 00
      +4
      Slavs historically divided religion
  4. parusnik
    parusnik 25 June 2018 15: 54
    +16
    There is no idea, there is no unity ...
    1. free
      free 25 June 2018 16: 12
      +7
      Quote: parusnik
      There is no idea, there is no unity ...

      When an idea comes up, unification will begin.
      1. Ross xnumx
        Ross xnumx 25 June 2018 19: 06
        +7
        Quote: free
        When an idea comes up, unification will begin.

        This is when it will be? When will Sberbank be headed by Petrov? I’m directly sleeping and I see how the “Slavic twin cities” give silver, bread, anything else that can be given to the growth to their brother’s height, they don’t give the foreigner the height, but they give their brother the height. laughing
        First we need to learn to respect ourselves and to drive out the parasites we feed, as fathers and grandfathers did. Labor should unite us, not fat purses with banknotes. For true human values ​​cannot be bought for money. Therefore, they are not for sale. Therefore, our ancestors were bought, but could not buy. And we, who were overweight in stagnant years, sold our country for Bush’s legs.
        1. akunin
          akunin 25 June 2018 19: 25
          +3
          Quote: ROSS 42
          When will Sberbank be headed by Petrov?
          So German Oskarovich Gref, this is Petr Petr Petrovich, only deeply conspiratorial, and Miller does not hide at all, he is Alexei Borisovich. All of us are Russians laughing
        2. free
          free 25 June 2018 20: 52
          +1
          Quote: ROSS 42
          Quote: free
          When an idea comes up, unification will begin.

          This is when it will be? When will Sberbank be headed by Petrov? I’m directly sleeping and I see how the “Slavic twin cities” give silver, bread, anything else that can be given to the growth to their brother’s height, they don’t give the foreigner the height, but they give their brother the height. laughing
          First we need to learn to respect ourselves and to drive out the parasites we feed, as fathers and grandfathers did. Labor should unite us, not fat purses with banknotes. For true human values ​​cannot be bought for money. Therefore, they are not for sale. Therefore, our ancestors were bought, but could not buy. And we, who were overweight in stagnant years, sold our country for Bush’s legs.

          In general, I had this in mind. I agree with you completely. When the communist idea embraces the masses and becomes a national one, then unification will begin.
    2. Reptiloid
      Reptiloid 25 June 2018 20: 12
      +1
      Quote: parusnik
      There is no idea, there is no unity ...
      Every year, the Slavs get farther and farther apart. If ---- a strong rich Russia, then others ---- with an outstretched hand will immediately come running and want to unite
      1. Mordvin 3
        Mordvin 3 25 June 2018 20: 20
        +1
        Quote: Reptiloid
        Every year, the Slavs get farther and farther apart.

        Look. And in the ninety-eighth year the Serbs begged us. "Rusich brothers, give us C-300, please." Khrenushki. EBN mumbled, “And what will friend Bill say? And what kind of question does friend Coll ask?”
        1. -Pollux
          -Pollux 25 June 2018 21: 20
          +1
          Quote: Mordvin 3
          Look. And in the ninety-eighth year the Serbs begged us. "Rusich brothers, give us the S-300, please." Khrenushki. EBN muttered "

          Why did the Serbian “brothers” not enter the Warsaw Pact bloc? Or bros when you need, and when to us - then each on his own?
          1. Mordvin 3
            Mordvin 3 25 June 2018 21: 23
            +2
            Quote: Pollux
            Why did the Serbian “brothers” not enter the Warsaw Pact bloc? Or bros when you need, and when to us - then each on his own?

            So, do you remember how it was?
            1. -Pollux
              -Pollux 25 June 2018 21: 25
              0
              Quote: Mordvin 3
              So, do you remember how it was?

              And here you recall, not only for me, for everyone.
              And then they took fashion - to answer the question with a question.
              1. Mordvin 3
                Mordvin 3 25 June 2018 21: 30
                0
                Good. Let me remind you. Yugoslavia was torn to pieces. Remind you who Carla Del Piero is?
                1. -Pollux
                  -Pollux 25 June 2018 22: 10
                  +1
                  Quote: Mordvin 3
                  Good. Let me remind you. Yugoslavia was torn to pieces.

                  recall in what year this happened, something I forgot.
                  1. Mordvin 3
                    Mordvin 3 25 June 2018 22: 19
                    0
                    Quote: Pollux
                    Remember what year it happened, something I forgot.

                    Is the memory bad? Recall how they wanted to drop the atomic bomb on our guys? Their major said, "Sir, I do not want to unleash a third world war." This was when our landing in Kosovo per.
                    1. -Pollux
                      -Pollux 25 June 2018 22: 27
                      +1
                      Quote: Mordvin 3
                      This was when our landing in Kosovo per.

                      Let me remind you of the chronology - they refused to enter into the Warsaw Pact much earlier than their dregan.
                      1. Mordvin 3
                        Mordvin 3 25 June 2018 22: 33
                        +1
                        Quote: Pollux
                        Let me remind you of the chronology - they refused to enter into the Warsaw Pact much earlier than their dregan.

                        What time! And is it so that the Warsaw Pact ceased to exist in the 91 year?
  5. Conductor
    Conductor 25 June 2018 16: 08
    +4
    There is no and will not be the idea of ​​a Slavic brotherhood. Fact.
    1. cost
      cost 25 June 2018 17: 03
      +4
      That's for sure. rather a Semitic brotherhood will appear
      1. Conductor
        Conductor 25 June 2018 17: 26
        +1
        But what about the Semitic fraternity?
        1. cost
          cost 25 June 2018 17: 30
          +8
          How's that?
          And something like this - in the Gaza Strip, two fraternal Semitic peoples, Arabs and Jews throw flowers and valentines at each other. Clapperboard streamers are fired and Semitic songs are sung in their arms laughing
  6. pytar
    pytar 25 June 2018 17: 04
    +4
    Slavic obedineniya inevitable! Life itself will compel us all to do that. But a lot of work to be done. First of all, it is necessary to clear out different kinds of one-sided interpretations of history! The article is good, but unfortunately it also contains a bias, presenting some of the Slavic peoples as "bad" and others "good"! By the criterion - "who is from Russia, he is good"! So it will not work gentlemen. That's for sure! Objectively there were considerable contradictions in the interests of individual Slavic countries. Without a mutual, obyiativnogo, fair, respectful attitude to the interests, nothing happens.
    1. cost
      cost 25 June 2018 17: 13
      +4
      and this is written by a citizen of a NATO member country, an organization directed against Russia. Citizen of the country: which in two world wars fought against Russia. You’re better off asking the Turks again for bros - that’s what will be your love and friendship. And we won’t lure us with friendship - there will be no second Shipka
      1. pytar
        pytar 25 June 2018 20: 47
        +2
        In the meantime, the citizens who put the white-blue-red flag on their accounts, write these things
        countries: which in two world wars fought against Russia. You'd better ask the Turks again in my bros - that will be your love and friendship.
        the unity of the Slavs will not be.
        That's the whole point Dmitry. No one has a monopole over the truth. Your truth is not ours. That is why I say that the best minds among the historical-scientific society in the Slavic countries need to come together. With impartiality and obyaktivno they need to deal with the story. This is not the case for "experts" on the forums. Science should replace propaganda, and then everything will come to its place.
        1. cost
          cost 25 June 2018 21: 07
          +2
          This is the whole point of the problem of Dmitry. No one has a monopoly over the truth. Your truth is not ours.

          Do you want the truth? You are welcome.
          This Bulgaria joined the anti-Russian bloc of NATO, and not Russia into the anti-Bulgarian bloc. Having entered NATO you yourself, being in a sober mind and memory, have chosen your enemy, Russia unbiasedly and objectively. No one made you.
          Now try to understand for yourself the main thing. “We are on opposite sides of the barricades.” You are enemies to us. Our weapons are turned against you. And you made this choice yourself. And stop your friendship songs. Nasty
          1. Vladimir 5
            Vladimir 5 25 June 2018 21: 23
            +2
            Don’t drive snowstorms, - rich, that is, Dmitry, probably, after my patronymic. There are many Cossacks sent by the Cossacks, and everyone who is so fair in their speeches is sometimes ridiculous ... there are shortsighted people, but not everyone can be strategists ... So the Slav has a brother to the retar - Boyan, to look at both and do the necessary pan-Slavic work. In the Russian Federation today it is not the Russian government, that’s the result. But most importantly, the Slavic revival is growing in strength in today's difficult hour ...
            1. cost
              cost 25 June 2018 21: 45
              +1
              Vladimir 5 (Vladimir): Don’t drive snowstorms, - rich, that is, Dmitry, probably you’ll patronymic Moses

              did not guess, uncle with the Lithuanian flag, with my patronymic - I'm not one of yours. laughing
              So for you, my dear
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                1. cost
                  cost 25 June 2018 22: 12
                  0
                  But I do not like your whereabouts, and I do not like you either.
                  It really hurts frankly under your mow laughing
                2. ver_
                  ver_ 26 June 2018 04: 21
                  +1
                  ... the flag shows through the server of which country you went to the Internet ..
          2. pytar
            pytar 25 June 2018 21: 29
            +2
            This is your "truth" Dmitry! I do not see any sense in such uplifts. "vesde enemies", "vesde traitors", "we alone are so white and fluffy"... there is nothing useful in such theses. This kind of activity is harmful for all Slavs. And a couple of words to you - with such persons it’s not about friendship, but even a normal dialogue is impossible.
            1. cost
              cost 25 June 2018 21: 56
              0
              pytar, I'm not blaming you personally. I absolutely do not know you and I can’t say anything bad a priori.
              But after all, more than 60% of the Bulgarians voluntarily forced by no-one to vote for NATO membership. Answer me only one question - which country is this bloc against?
              1. cost
                cost 25 June 2018 22: 18
                0
                pytar, ay!
                As expected, there will be no answer
              2. pytar
                pytar 25 June 2018 22: 29
                +2
                But after all, more than 60% of Bulgarians voluntarily did not force anyone to vote for NATO membership.

                Share where you have such information? Where, when did you vote and where did you get these percentages from ?! belay I am very interested to know!
                1. cost
                  cost 25 June 2018 22: 36
                  0
                  from an Internet naturally. Do you want to answer my question?
                  1. pytar
                    pytar 25 June 2018 23: 21
                    +2
                    from internet naturally

                    The internet is huge. There you can find all kinds of nonsense ... naturally. Give iztochnika if you do not hesitate? Otherwise, your hardening fake.
                    Answer me just one question - against which country is this bloc?

                    One of the threats is considered the Russian Federation. How justified is this, I can not appreciate. request
                    1. cost
                      cost 25 June 2018 23: 46
                      0
                      The internet is huge. There you can find all kinds of nonsense ... naturally. Give me an exterminator if you are not at a loss? Otherwise, you will have to consider your hardening fake.

                      ... February 17, 1997 the Parliament of Bulgaria almost unanimously approved the decision on the country's entry into the alliance. In the same year, at the Madrid summit of NATO, Bulgaria (among the other six candidate countries) was officially invited to join the alliance ....
                      link: http: //nato.rf/ru/bulgaria.html
                      One of the threats considered by the Russian Federation

                      That's the whole conversation about the Bulgarian-Russian friendship, Boyan
                      1. pytar
                        pytar 26 June 2018 09: 11
                        +3
                        Dmitry, you yourself read what you write? Bulgaria joined NATO in 2004 14 years after the collapse of the ATS! The authorities did not hold a referendum, since according to the polls 76-82% of the population was against NATO! Your 60% "for" fake! By the way, before 2008, the Russian Federation participated actively in all NATO partner programs. It was for her and special exclusive formats - 1991, SSS / CAP /, 1994, PM, 1997, - ODSS, etc. You could know all this, but for some reason you didn’t do yourself a job! Intentionally or for other reasons? Speculate why you need? wink
                        I have to be positive for what I’ll say that despite the public sentiment that was against NATO, joining the union was responsible for the national interests of the country in that period. So we avoided the Kosovo scenario, which unwinds us. Over the past 13 years, people have seen that the devil is not so bad. Now, according to various opinion polls, 32-49% support NATO membership, and 24% are against. The 60% mentioned to you support EU membership.
                        Bulgarian-Russian friendship is at the public and at the household level. Again, according to opinion polls, more than 72-76% of the population has a Russophile attitude. There was a serial decline in 2014 in connection with events in Ukraine. In Bulgaria, the most widespread non-governmental organization is the NDR / the national movement of Russophiles /. The mood is one thing, and the policy is another. Unfortunately, there are some differences in the interests of our countries. These are facts, not speculations, which you write.
          3. sapporo1959
            sapporo1959 25 June 2018 22: 12
            +2
            In the general fought! I’ve already run into the Bulgarians. Leave it like this without the mother and Khan to the Bulgarians ..
            1. cost
              cost 26 June 2018 00: 11
              0
              You Misha, would not touch my mom .....
              1. sapporo1959
                sapporo1959 26 June 2018 00: 47
                +3
                Why touch her if she already cries while reading you!
        2. garnik
          garnik 25 June 2018 21: 17
          +1
          I support you. We must constantly meet in all sorts of forums, in Pan-Slavic sports games, etc.
        3. -Pollux
          -Pollux 25 June 2018 21: 23
          +2
          Quote: pytar
          the unity of the Slavs will not be.

          You are in the NATO bloc - are you not ashamed to talk about the unity of the Slavs?
          1. pytar
            pytar 25 June 2018 21: 33
            +3
            You are in the NATO bloc - are you not ashamed to talk about the unity of the Slavs?

            I am not ashamed because I am against NATO. It is the majority of the Slavs are in NATO. They are all bad, and are you good? In my opinion, bad everyone who speaks against the Slavic peoples and incites hatred between them, hiding behind different masks!
            1. -Pollux
              -Pollux 25 June 2018 22: 16
              +1
              Quote: pytar
              It is the majority of the Slavs are in NATO. They are all bad, but are you pretty?

              Most of the Slavs are Russian, and a minority are in NATO.
              Quote: pytar
              I am not ashamed, because I am against NATO.

              Just an excuse.
              Quote: pytar
              In my opinion, it’s bad for everyone who speaks against the Slavic peoples and incites hatred between them, hiding under different masks!

              You can say anything, there is no faith in your words, everyone speaks for you, and joining NATO on "deeds".
              1. pytar
                pytar 25 June 2018 22: 58
                +2
                Most of the Slavs are Russian, and a minority are in NATO.

                Let's count! Nato - 7 Slavic countries / Poland, Czech Republic, Slovakia, Croatia, Slovenia, Bulgaria, Chernna gora / - 67,5 million. 3 is another member candidate / Macedonia, BiH, Ukraine / - 55,5 million = 123 million. Ethnic Slavs them, somewhere ~ 90-92% It turns out - 112 million
                The Russian Federation has a population of 148 million. Of these, ethnic Russians are 116 million. Add Belarus - 9,5 million and Serbia - 7,5 million / -5% of the national minority / it turns out 132 million.
                The difference is not as big as the quantity, but as the people and the state, categorically in favor of Nat.
                The rest that you wrote will be ignored. It is useless.
                1. -Pollux
                  -Pollux 26 June 2018 14: 33
                  0
                  Quote: pytar
                  The difference is not as big as the quantity, but as the people and the state, categorically in favor of Nat.

                  However, you are famously included in the NATO and Ukraine and Belarus.
                  You definitely counted 60 million of any miscellaneous versus 120 million of Russians. The citizens of Ukraine and Belarus are mostly Russians and belong to the Russian ethnic group.
                  Quote: pytar
                  The difference is not as big as the quantity, but as the people and the state, categorically in favor of Nat.

                  Russia is larger than the whole of Europe by territory and by the number of nationalities on its territory. And even Russians differing in their originality from other Russians in Russia are more numerous than original Slavic peoples in Europe. Like it or not, it is the Russian core of the Slavs, and not the Poles at all, and certainly not the Bulgarians with the Serbs.
                  1. pytar
                    pytar 26 June 2018 15: 42
                    +2
                    However, you are famously included in the NATO and Ukraine and Belarus.

                    Read again. Ukraine is a candidate. Belarus - not.
                    60 million of all the odds against 120 million is exactly Russian, you just thought.

                    The statistics are purely entertaining. In all countries, including the Russian Federation, there are pros and cons. If someone is not lazy, can make a more accurate calculation on the buzz of opinion polls. I do not undertake.
                    Russia is larger than all of Europe in the territories and in the number of ethnic groups on its territory. And even Russians, differing in their originality from other Russians in Russia, more than the original Slavic peoples in Europe.

                    This is an all-known fact. Yes
                    Whatever one may say - it is the Russian core of the Slavs, and not at all the Poles, and certainly not the Bulgarians with the Serbs.

                    As far as I know, others do not have a complaint for a choking mission. The Russian Federation also does not pretend to that officially. But as far as Russia is the core, this is a topic on which there is no single opinion among the Slavic countries.
                    1. -Pollux
                      -Pollux 26 June 2018 16: 03
                      0
                      Quote: pytar
                      The statistics are purely entertaining. In all countries, including the Russian Federation, there are pros and cons.

                      It was about counting the number of Slavic nations, what kind of pros and cons are we talking about? What verbiage?
                      Quote: pytar
                      As far as I know, others have no claim to a unifying mission. The Russian Federation also does not officially claim this.

                      Exactly who is not with us is the door there.
                      Quote: pytar
                      But as far as Russia is the core, this is a topic on which there is no unequivocal opinion among the Slavic countries.

                      The core - it is the core regardless of its desire or the desire of the outskirts.
            2. Alber
              Alber 27 June 2018 13: 16
              +1
              Quote: pytar
              You are in the NATO bloc - are you not ashamed to talk about the unity of the Slavs?

              I am not ashamed because I am against NATO. It is the majority of the Slavs are in NATO. They are all bad, and are you good? In my opinion, bad everyone who speaks against the Slavic peoples and incites hatred between them, hiding behind different masks!

              You speak correctly Boyan!
    2. Ross xnumx
      Ross xnumx 25 June 2018 19: 13
      +5
      Quote: pytar
      First of all, it is necessary to clean out different kinds of one-sided interpretations.

      It is necessary ... It is necessary to clean it ... Only history does not need to be rejected. What happened, you can’t cover it with a fig leaf.
      First you need to decide at a common table what we still want. To parasitize on each other, portraying older brothers and younger sisters, or to build their own world, not allowing all sorts of people to bring into it seeds of hostility and doubt.
      1. pytar
        pytar 25 June 2018 20: 52
        +2
        It is necessary ... It is necessary to clean ... Only history should not be rejected. That was, that you will not cover a fig leaf. First you need to decide at the common table, what we still want.

        Very correct thought! good Because if we look at things from different angles, since they are seen in different Slavic countries, it turns out that there is a huge disparity. Reproaches and accusations will not lead to anything good. Propaganda, which is far from science and facts, bears enormous harm.
    3. -Pollux
      -Pollux 25 June 2018 20: 06
      +2
      Quote: pytar
      First of all, it is necessary to clean out different kinds of one-sided interpretations of history!

      For example? What do you dislike about our story?
      Quote: pytar
      According to the criterion - “he who is from Russia is good”!

      Great!!! You went over to the side of OUR GENERAL enemies, do you have to be praised for this?
      Quote: pytar
      Without a mutual, objective, fair, respectful attitude to interests, nothing will work.

      We won’t give money.
      1. pytar
        pytar 25 June 2018 20: 55
        +3
        For example? What do you dislike about our story?

        For me personally, there is no such thing as “like”, “not like” if we are talking about history. This is not ice cream, to like it or not. I believe that historians should work together on all controversial topics. Then they will not be cured as yours. Of course, you can still 100 just write what you want and where you want. All the same, it will not become ours. The effect will be singular - a deepening division between the Slavs. Who benefits? Answer yourself. hi
        1. -Pollux
          -Pollux 25 June 2018 21: 14
          +2
          Quote: pytar
          I believe that historians should work together on all controversial topics.

          What do you consider controversial?
          Quote: pytar
          The only effect will be - the deepening separation between the Slavs.

          That you are separated from us and not we from you.
          Quote: pytar
          Who benefits? Answer yourself.

          But this question doesn’t bother you, why should we care?
          1. pytar
            pytar 25 June 2018 21: 40
            0
            What do you consider controversial?

            Do you want to unscrew the endless "debate" here, the results with which there will be even more alienation? What is the point of such a dispute between forum users who have completely different perceptions to historical or political topics?
            That you are separated from us and not we from you.

            Optical illusion. To eliminate distortion, you need to stay in the opposite place.
            But this question doesn’t bother you, why should we care?

            "you", "us" ... neither you Sergey, nor I have the authority to speak on behalf of all. Can not worry.
            Deputy: I appeal to “you” not because of familiarity, but so that “you” are not confused with peoples or large groups of society.
            1. -Pollux
              -Pollux 25 June 2018 22: 23
              +1
              Quote: pytar
              Do you want to twist here the endless "discussion", the only result with which there will be even more alienation?

              Maybe you can convince me?
              Quote: pytar
              What is the point of such a dispute between forum users who have completely different perceptions of historical or political topics ?!

              So it is not necessary to raise this question at all - about your pseudo-brotherhood.
              Quote: pytar
              Optical illusion. To eliminate distortion, we must stay in the opposite place.

              Your expression can only be true if there is no reference point, but there is such a point. In the existing coordinate system, there are two poles - Russia and NATO, and in this reference system you are moving away from us towards NATO (you have long moved away), and not we from you, we stand still.
              1. pytar
                pytar 25 June 2018 23: 12
                +2
                Maybe you can convince me?

                What for? You Sergey does not influence the foreign policy of the countries!
                So it is not necessary to raise this question at all - about your pseudo-brotherhood.

                I did not raise such a question. Neither about "our", nor about "your" brotherhood or pseudo-brotherhood. Actually, what kind of marriage can there be between people with incompatible views ?! States are ruled not by such categories or by emotions, but by interests. To argue about the correctness of the interests is not worth it.
                1. -Pollux
                  -Pollux 26 June 2018 14: 37
                  0
                  Quote: pytar
                  What for? You Sergey does not influence the foreign policy of the countries!

                  You are seriously going to influence your state from the pages of this resource *
                  Quote: pytar
                  Actually, what kind of fraternity can there be speech between people with incompatible views ?!

                  And I’m talking about the same thing, we are enemies and this is your fault, you wanted to become our enemies.
                  Quote: pytar
                  States are ruled not by such categories or by emotions, but by interests.

                  Then explain to me what was the interest for Bulgaria in the rejection of the South Stream? It seems to me that you are not telling something, or misunderstanding, or simply lying.
                  1. pytar
                    pytar 26 June 2018 15: 52
                    0
                    You are seriously going to influence your state from the pages of this resource *

                    I have no such intentions. Although those few articles that I published here, have received very wide distribution. They were reprinted on Bulgarian resources. hi
                    And I’m talking about the same thing, we are enemies and this is your fault, you wanted to become our enemies.

                    You cannot live without enemies. laughing Especially funny is the topic of guilt. Okay. The leadership of the Russian Federation is unlikely to coordinate its policy with you, Sergei, because especially in the last time there is a positive development.
                    Then explain to me what was the interest for Bulgaria in the rejection of the South Stream? It seems to me that you are not telling something, or misunderstanding, or simply lying.

                    On this project, I personally worked 4 of the year from the Bulgarian side. Already wrote thousands of comments and explanations on p-forums. Repeat for each forumchanin already lazy. I was going to write a story for VO, but I do not have enough free time. Some clarity, without going into details, gave in my last article on HE. request And the fact that it seems to you, it is your sub-active perception ... bully
                    1. -Pollux
                      -Pollux 26 June 2018 16: 09
                      0
                      Quote: pytar
                      You cannot live without enemies.

                      They are regardless of our wishes, we would be happy if there were no NATO bases near our borders.
                      Quote: pytar
                      Especially funny is the topic of guilt.

                      You find the theme of your own betrayal as funny, how cute.
                      Quote: pytar
                      Already written thousands of comments and explanations on the ru-forums.

                      All your excuses (well, maybe not all) are read. The fact is that you refused the economic benefits in favor of Russophobia. Apparently for Russophobia hegemon pays you more.
                      1. pytar
                        pytar 26 June 2018 17: 35
                        +1
                        They are regardless of our wishes, we would be happy if there were no NATO bases near our borders.

                        NATO bases are on the territory of Nata. Fact.
                        You find the theme of your own betrayal as funny, how cute.

                        I find it funny, because I remember only Traitors, who have no analogue in history. Gorby and Yeltsin. Those with which it all started ... But you probably did not hear about them. laughing
                        All your excuses (well, maybe not all) are read. The fact is that you refused the economic benefits in favor of Russophobia. Apparently for Russophobia hegemon pays you more.

                        Excuses? Where did you see this? Sergey, it's all in your imagination. lol
                        The economic benefit is. Russophobia is not. About the "hegemon" I do not know how he is doing there. Not interested. bully
    4. I am Russian
      I am Russian 26 June 2018 10: 07
      +1
      Yes, the hell you need with your union.
      1. pytar
        pytar 26 June 2018 11: 31
        +1
        Yes, the hell you need with your union.

        Slavic obedineniya do not need, just to hell! Damn ... he is ... am Hiding behind the networks, under different images and works against the Slavic obedineniya! laughing
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        2. -Pollux
          -Pollux 26 June 2018 14: 39
          +1
          Quote: pytar
          Slavic unity is not necessary, just to hell! Damn ... he is so ... He hides himself in networks, under different images and works against the Slavic unity!

          An honest enemy is better than a lying friend, therefore Russia is building a nuclear power plant in Turkey and the South Stream will pass through Turkey.
      2. alatanas
        alatanas 26 June 2018 16: 23
        +2
        And why is it crying that you see all betrayed except the Serbs?
        As if during the time of the police department, Tito was the greatest friend of the USSR.
        1. -Pollux
          -Pollux 26 June 2018 18: 07
          0
          Quote: alatanas
          And why is it crying that you see all betrayed except the Serbs?

          First of all, we do not cry, you cry - when we refuse your "friendship".
          Quote: alatanas
          As if during the time of the police department, Tito was the greatest friend of the USSR.

          Secondly - and where is Yugoslavia now?
    5. Kot_Kuzya
      Kot_Kuzya 29 June 2018 21: 27
      0
      Do not write nonsense. There is no brotherhood of the Slavs. This is all a whim of the crazy fools. You still talk about the Germanic brotherhood. For example, the British and Germans are fraternal Germanic peoples, but they NEVER were allies, they were always enemies, they killed each other the only way. Or take the Dutch. The Dutch and Germans are almost one nation, there is more difference between the Westphalian and the Bavarian than between the Westphalian and the Dutchman. But the Germans and the Dutch also never fraternized. Enough to hang on your neck "brothers" and feed them in the person of Svidomo, Bulgarians and Serbs.
  7. tractor driver73
    tractor driver73 25 June 2018 17: 08
    +4
    The most fragmented people are Slavs! Never Ukrainians, Muscovites, Bulbashs, Psheks, Ukrainians, Russians, Belarusians, Poles were not united! Even in one country of the USSR!
    1. Conductor
      Conductor 25 June 2018 17: 27
      0
      Psheks, um, are they Slavs?
      1. cost
        cost 25 June 2018 18: 33
        +1
        this is a derogatory name for the Poles. And these are 100% Slavs.
        Slavic are considered peoples speaking the languages ​​of the Slavic group. Slavic languages ​​are traditionally divided into three large groups - the Western, which includes Poles, Czechs, Slovaks, Slavs, Moravians, Lusatian Serbs and Kashubians; Southern, which includes Serbs, Croats, Slovenes, Muslim Bosnians, Montenegrins, Macedonians and Bulgarians; and East, to which belong the Russians, Ruthenians, Ukrainians, Litvinians and Belarusians. There are several other minorities that consider themselves separate Slavic peoples, such as Silesians, Gorans, etc. All these peoples speak Slavic languages ​​related to each other, and genetically they may not even be pure Slavs, but linguistic affiliation is fundamental to determine their nationality.
        1. Alber
          Alber 25 June 2018 18: 51
          +2
          Quote: Rich
          this is a derogatory name for the Poles. And these are 100% Slavs.


          It is simply teeming with Ashkenazi Jews
      2. Alber
        Alber 25 June 2018 18: 50
        +1
        Quote: Conductor
        Psheks, um, are they Slavs?

        Catholics in the majority.
        and leading posts in Poland are occupied by Semites
        1. Vladimir 5
          Vladimir 5 25 June 2018 21: 39
          +2
          As in Russia, Ukraine, Poland, and so on. . So Ukrainians and Russians are fighting in the Donbass, led by the Semites: Valtsman, Mendel. Groysman, Turchinov Kogan, Lavrov-Laverman, ... and so on ...
          1. Alber
            Alber 27 June 2018 13: 28
            +1
            Quote: Vladimir 5
            As in Russia, Ukraine, Poland, and so on. . So Ukrainians and Russians are fighting in the Donbass, led by the Semites: Valtsman, Mendel. Groysman, Turchinov Kogan, Lavrov-Laverman, ... and so on ...

            Lavrov is actually an Armenian. Kalantaryan. Then his last name changed somewhat (Kalantarov). Well, now he is Lavrov ...
            Although the rest you are right!
            According to your "IN DYASNU"?
  8. Blue fox
    Blue fox 25 June 2018 17: 44
    0
    Quote: free
    Quote: parusnik
    There is no idea, there is no unity ...

    When an idea comes up, unification will begin.

    You are right, but I’ll supplement it. There will be an idea and a LEADER!
  9. iouris
    iouris 25 June 2018 17: 56
    +1
    The only prerequisite for "unity of the Slavs" is a united Russia (not to be confused with the official name of the "core political system" of the Russian Federation). Weak Russia will fall apart and die. Together with her or earlier, the idea of ​​Pan-Slavism will die. By the way, all representatives of this movement believed that the Russian language should become the language of the Slavs.
    Are the Russians united? The answer is no.
    1. cost
      cost 25 June 2018 18: 10
      +1
      By the way, all representatives of this movement believed that the Russian language should become the language of the Slavs.

      Yes, that's just the founder and author of pan-Slavism, Yuri Krizhanich, apparently did not coordinate this issue with you and proposed as a common language for all Slavs - a kind of cross between Latin and Croatian laughing
      1. -Pollux
        -Pollux 25 June 2018 20: 10
        +1
        Quote: Rich
        Yes, that's just the founder and author of pan-Slavism, Yuri Krizhanich, apparently did not coordinate this issue with you and proposed as a common language for all Slavs - a kind of cross between Latin and Croatian

        Because Pan-Slavism is a Western project, they want to build it without Russia and Russians
      2. solzh
        solzh 25 June 2018 20: 18
        0
        Quote: Rich
        founder and author of pan-Slavism, Yuri Krizhanich

        Krizhanich, for your information, was not a pan-Slavist. In the 17th century, being in exile in Tobolsk, he proposed to clear the Russian language of excessive Greekisms and Latinisms. For the first time, Krizhanich proposed for convenience to replace the names of letters (az, beeches, Vedi, etc.) with monosyllabic, actually 260 years ahead of the reform of Russian spelling. The founder of pan-Slavism, for example, V. Feldman called the Polish thinker S. Staszyts. Pan-Slavism itself, arose at the beginning of the XNUMXth century in the Czech Republic and Slovakia, which were part of the Austrian Empire, as one of the manifestations of the Slavic revival, on the one hand, and as a response of the Western Slavs to strengthening the position of Pan-Germanism, on the other.
        1. cost
          cost 25 June 2018 20: 29
          0
          The history of pan-Slavism

          The origin of Pan-Slavism in Central Europe
          Back in the XVII century, the Croatian thinker Yuri Krizhanich advocated the unity of the Slavic peoples led by the Russian Kingdom and tried to create a single Slavic language for the Slavic peoples .....

          https://dic.academic.ru/dic.nsf/ruwiki/128950
          1. solzh
            solzh 25 June 2018 20: 55
            0
            Thanks for the link, looked, read. Remained in his opinion regarding Krizhanichhi
      3. alatanas
        alatanas 26 June 2018 11: 09
        +1

        Mavro Orbini (circa 1601)
  10. Opera
    Opera 25 June 2018 18: 51
    +5
    No! There is no unity! Moreover, he never was! What can we do right in this matter-stop giving the illusion of Soviet internationalism as reality! There is no need to talk about Ukraine! LDNR is no longer Ukraine. What is happening in Belarus now can not fail to be seen only by a completely blinded internationalist storyteller! I'd like to believe that Belarusians are aware of their Russianness. In any case, the initiative should come from the Russian people of White Russia! And of course the Serbs! These are our people without any questions! We all need to know and clearly understand the words spoken by the great Russian thinker F.M. Dostoevsky about the Slavs of Europe - "... according to my inner conviction, the most complete and insurmountable, Russia will never have and never had such haters, envious people, slanderers, and even obvious enemies, like all these Slavic tribes, as soon as Russia liberates them and Europe will agree to consider them liberated ... "Further, Dostoevsky very clearly reveals all this eternal treason! Read if anyone has not read! Nothing changes and will not change! And yet, after 1945, at a time when our Motherland was in ruins, and our grandfathers and great-grandfathers were undernourished, the Soviet Union rebuilt all this eastern Europe by investing tremendous funds ... I want to say thanks to these Slavic eastern tribes! We are fed up with their thanks! One must be completely mentally deficient in order to commit once again something similar on our part! Even relatively reminiscent of this Soviet kindness at the expense of his people!
    1. solzh
      solzh 25 June 2018 19: 59
      +1
      Quote: Oper
      words spoken by the great Russian thinker F.M. Dostoevsky about the Slavs of Europe

      Dostoevsky: "... And finally, for the third, Slavophilism, besides this unification of the Slavs under the leadership of Russia, means and encompasses the spiritual union of all believers that our great Russia, at the head of the united Slavs, will tell the whole world, all European humanity and civilization, his own new, healthy and yet unheard-of word in the world.This word will be said for the good and truly already in the unification of all mankind by a new, fraternal, universal union, the beginnings of which lie in the genius of the Slavs, but mainly in the spirit of the great Russian people , who suffered so long, doomed to silence for so many centuries, but always embodying great powers ... And I belong to this department of convinced and believing "
      1. Opera
        Opera 25 June 2018 21: 07
        +2
        And all from the same “Diary of a Writer,” of course, Russia will always be aware that the center of Slavic unity is her, that if the Slavs live a free national life, it is because she wanted it and wants it, which she did and created. But what benefit will this consciousness bring to Russia except labor, vexation and eternal concern? "
        Of course, Dostoevsky was a Slavophile, but he understood this much more deeply! And completely without pink illusory asking such questions! Being a realistic Slavic unity, he saw before spiritual! And the only one possible under the leadership of Russia!
      2. dSK
        dSK 26 June 2018 02: 52
        0
        Quote: solzh
        encompasses the spiritual union of all believers

        The last All-Russian census of 2010 counted only 142 856 536 people, of them: Russian - 111016896 + Cossacks (Russian Cossacks) - 67573 = 77,7%
        According to a nationwide survey conducted by VTsIOM in March 2010, 75% of Russians consider themselves Orthodox Christians.
        The Russian Orthodox Church called the absence of columns in the census forms a discrimination about religion. “This is absolute discrimination. It’s as if they’re afraid of learning about the religious state of our society, ”said Archpriest Vladimir Vigilyansky, head of the press service’s patriarchal office.
        РПЦ does not record the number of its members or attendance at divine services.
        The next census in Russia is scheduled for 2020.
  11. brdm
    brdm 25 June 2018 18: 59
    0
    No one will give, and not when, the Slavs become One. Slavs how holy water is. For the infamous Herods!
  12. akunin
    akunin 25 June 2018 19: 17
    +1
    The true revival of the Slavic world can only be associated with Russia, which historically has been the locomotive and protector of the European Slavs.
    I’ll go the rope in a harsher way - I’ll find the last trunks to my armpits and tie them up harder. Now we will help Syria, and then we will tighten our little brothers.
  13. AlexMark
    AlexMark 25 June 2018 19: 40
    +2
    For a long time I communicated with a really cool specialist from Ukraine, in his main specialty. A person is already in years, not like a thirty-year-old idiot, moral and ethical values ​​have long been formed. Let's just say, he wanted to be equal both as a specialist and as a person. However, time passed and even propaganda touched him, very stable and sensible, as a result, for a couple of years, there was an obvious nationalist, who not only blamed the Russians for everything (expectedly), but also Belarusians in general turned out to be the last bastards, because they allowed ...
    This is what I am, the work of Goebbels lives and develops, everyone, even the most persistent, can fall under the propaganda rink. Therefore, less TV, more of their own perception of the world and everything will fall into place.
    1. Opera
      Opera 25 June 2018 20: 05
      +3
      Of course, propaganda plays a role, and not small! But ... At first, many of us thought that Maidan Ukraine is primarily youth who grew up under the independence. However, soon we saw quite mature people who had formed in Soviet times! What happened? Why didn’t this happen in Crimea? I can absolutely objectively say that Crimea was under even greater pressure from propagandists! Moreover, in the most acute forms, including trains of "friendship" and the policy of resettlement of residents of the western regions to the Crimea and the Crimean Tatars! In Crimea, everything happened exactly the opposite - there zapadentsy became Crimeans, and the pro-European and pro-Turkish Tatars did not feel at ease! Without any pathos, the Russians in Crimea always cultivated their Russianness and did not forget where their real Motherland was! In central Ukraine, these nationalist grains laid the fertile ground! Ukrainian propaganda was carried out there and in the USSR! Here you can talk for a very long time and a lot. I just want to remind you that Ukrainian nationalists did not sit for a long time under Khrushchev! They returned to their places and, moreover, began to occupy serious positions, including in party organs! Given the fact that Ukrainianism was generally encouraged throughout the Soviet years and realizing a certain share of the supposedly peculiar Ukrainian features, they almost always got what they got!
      1. Vladimir 5
        Vladimir 5 25 June 2018 23: 21
        0
        Everything is much deeper. The discord between Ukrainians and Russians has been sown for a long time, since the time of Polish possession of Ukrainian lands, then the Germans weakened Russia. promoting the nationalism of the Baltic states. Ukrainians even during the Russian Empire, being managers in the empire, secretly destroyed it. Churches in Lithuania, church in Latvia and Estonia were built in the mid-years of the 19th century and the beginning of the 20th century in the Republic of Ingushetia on a massive scale, and this promoted anti-Russianism, anti-proclamation at a religious level ...., In Western Ukraine, the Uniate Church was pushed by the Astro-Hungarian Empire, together with hostility and hatred towards Russia and the Russians were born. The most important section occurred during the Soviet era. The CPPS policy on the transfer of power to local national cadres since 1969, frightened by the events in Czechoslovakia, completely cut off Ukraine and other republics from Russia. Further, isolation only increased, giving all power to the local national nomenclature .. And the reign of B. Yeltsin, this time of the collapse of everything in Russia. Then the twentieth anniversary of Vladimir Putin, where the main thing is the stabilization of Russia, foreign policy has remained overboard, and this is what the enemies of Russia have taken advantage of. and we have a hostile Ukraine, Poland, the Baltic states. Romania and so on. The same with the distant Slavic states ...
  14. VladGashek
    VladGashek 26 June 2018 00: 10
    +1
    As for the history of the Bulgarians, the main blame for the formation of the anti-Russian elite should be blamed on the liberating king Alexander 2, who fell under the influence of his German relatives and the pro-German Foreign Ministry. They forced him to capitulate at the Berlin Congress and agree to the accession of the German dynasty in Bulgaria. Our king could not show will and follow reason in building the future Bulgarian state. Apparently, history punished him.
  15. doka
    doka 26 June 2018 01: 10
    0
    Yes, the question of unity is being solved easier than it seems, Firstly, the issue of Russian citizenship is a policy that leads to unification around Russia as an outpost of traditional values, Secondly, there is no one to let offend the gr, Russia abroad, Offended violins, the nuclear submarines opened, they opened the mines, they gave 24 hours the question was resolved, And the third introduce a gold ruble Russia doesn’t succeed in bombing Libya, Something like this can only be radically declared;
  16. kig
    kig 26 June 2018 02: 18
    +1
    Why on earth should they be one? Even in the family, siblings have their own views on many things and act differently. What can we say about the peoples. Unity (in words) can happen if someone powerful collects everyone else in a fist and holds it there, in a fist. While he can.
  17. AlexMark
    AlexMark 26 June 2018 05: 40
    +3
    Yes, everything is simple, you understand every word in the song, it means with us, no, well, excuse me)))

    But seriously, I just wanted to share the song)
  18. Kostadinov
    Kostadinov 26 June 2018 10: 30
    +3
    And the Slavs, like all other peoples of the world, cannot be beaten together while imperialism exists. The deepest essence of imperialism is the incitement of nationalism, the inciting of one people or religion against others, aggression and war. After the collapse of the USSR and the dissolution of the ATS, there is no longer such a force in the world that is able to restrain US imperialism and it resumed (after Helsinki 1975) its struggle for world domination. NATO for the US is like the "Axis" for Nazi Germany. The United States and NATO are preparing a catastrophe for all the peoples of the world, including the people of the United States, as UTB did for all, including the German people.
    Any division, not only of the Slavic but also of all the peoples of the world, into "good" and "bad" works for Washington, NATO and the war.
  19. alatanas
    alatanas 26 June 2018 10: 42
    +1
    The project of "political Ukrainians" hails from there, from Austria-Hungary

    The project of "Macedonism" was implemented by Stalin and Tito under the cap of the Comintern in the 1946 year. Until then, there were none. In the kingdom of Yugoslavia there was Vardarska banovina and the so-called “southern Serbs” (Bulgarians by nationality) lived there.
  20. Vend
    Vend 26 June 2018 16: 35
    +1
    -Pollux,
    You did not give any examples, only words and nothing more.
  21. -Pollux
    -Pollux 26 June 2018 18: 16
    0
    Quote: pytar
    NATO bases are on the territory of Nata. Fact.

    However, there is (was) a CFE treaty that you (NATO) violated by increasing the number of troops at our borders. When the USSR prevailed - NATO respected it, how NATO became (numerically) dominant, they immediately started singing about the free deployment of NATO wax on NATO territory.
    Quote: pytar
    The economic benefit is. Russophobia is not. About the "hegemon" I do not know how he is doing there. Not interested.

    The economic benefit - no - you refused it, Russophobia - yes - the reason for the refusal.
    I note that I explain to you the causes and consequences of actions and deeds, and you just make unfounded statements, take the trouble to substantiate your statements or admit your wrong.
    Quote: pytar
    I find it funny, because I recall some Traitors who have no analogue in history. Gorbi and Yeltsin. The ones that started it all ..

    Are you so sure that everything started with Gorbachev and Yeltsin? Gorbachev and Yeltsin's all over!
    And yes - this is our internal question - our traitors betrayed us, not you. There and then a conversation about how some peoples and countries betray others, calling them brotherly in the face and receiving tremendous help from them.
    1. pytar
      pytar 26 June 2018 22: 06
      +2
      However, there is (was) a treaty of the CFE Treaty, which you (NATO) violated by increasing the number of troops at our borders ...

      RF insists one thing, NATO is different. I'm not a judge, and neither are you.
      The economic benefit - no - you refused it, Russophobia - yes - the reason for the refusal.

      Badly understand a situation. Now in the world of capitalism. In the Russian Federation is the same. Long. The capitalists are better at finding out where their profit is.
      Russophobia kudato is, but not in Bulgaria. You have obviously never been to this country.
      Are you so sure that everything started with Gorbachev and Yeltsin? Gorbachev and Yeltsin's all over!

      Yes. I am sure that everything is over with them. Although erosion began from the very beginning. The system was like that.
      And yes - this is our internal question - our traitors have betrayed us, not you.

      It would be so if Eastern Europe was not in an alliance with the USSR. They betrayed the USSR, Gorby and Yeltsin, betrayed all their allies in the world. We made conclusions.
      Immediately the conversation as one nations and countries betray others, calling them by sight fraternal and receiving tremendous help from them.

      Peoples never betray. Betray the rulers, all specific individuals. Also, under capitalism there is no fraternity. Again I remind you - RF 17 for years as a capitalist country! Take a look and return to the present!
      Good luck to you! Good luck in reality!
  22. M. Michelson
    M. Michelson 27 June 2018 16: 01
    0
    Well, he said that it was a myth, but Slavophile myths themselves were pushing. That none of the Slavs would ever want to see Russia as a unifier, these Balkan events a century and a half ago have clearly shown. And how much longer will we pull this dummy? No other problems, or what?
  23. kig
    kig 28 June 2018 08: 09
    0
    June 25, the world celebrates the day of friendship and unity of the Slavs - the author, you exaggerate. Who in the big world has heard of such a day? Add already: in the Slavic world. And even that, only those of them who want to live in unity.
  24. Mikhail Matyugin
    Mikhail Matyugin 2 July 2018 10: 55
    +1
    Unfortunately, the unity of the Slavs can only be dreamed of and talked about, but it never happened. The project of Pan-Slavism is apparently the same "chimera" as the unity of the Teutons, the unity of the Anglo-Saxons, the unity of the Hispanic world, etc. These are projects of the 18th and even more of the 19th century, the era of empires, and in general, the course of history has shown that this is not feasible. The differences are too ethnic, mental, economic and social ...

    Just as an example: it was easier for the Russians to create a great empire with the same Belarusians or even with the Turks - Tatars and Kazakhs, than with the same Slavs - Poles ...