In Israel, developed the latest recognition system "friend or foe"

Engineers of the Israeli company Thermal Beacon Ltd developed high-quality markers (emitters), with which you can easily distinguish one from another during the battle, the resource reports iHLS.

The development is presented in two options - MS OMR II C and MK-IV.

Elements of the first are mounted on a protective helmet of military personnel, thereby marking "their" fighters. The second system is designed for marking vehicles, buildings and other objects.

According to the developers, during the test, it was possible to recognize live and inanimate objects at a distance of 18 kilometers. The system is based on infrared emitters.

The company believes that their product will be in demand, primarily in the special forces, the police and the search and rescue service.

It is also reported that thermal markers are viewed in the temperature spectrum up to 12 μm (most effective at 3-5 μm), and do not give radiation in the near infrared or visible areas.

As the marketing manager of the company, Daniel Daeshevits, noted, both systems are tested in combat conditions, are fully integrated and are already being used by some NATO units. He added that the fighter does not feel any discomfort from the placement of elements of the system due to their compactness. But the system itself allows to avoid mistakes in identifying the target, providing the soldier with an additional level of protection.

Comments

[Imobile]

I can not help but hold on - for DNA?

[7gor]

She took off his helmet from a fighter, put it on himself .... and you’re “yours!” Then they’ll arrange their own tricks! Fighters themselves need to be chipped, while only special forces! The rest do not need it

[Imobile]

I thought they were using the express test to determine if my mother was Jewish or not. And so the flaw turns out

[Strips]

Quote: Imobile

Today, 15: 15
I thought they were using the express test to determine if my mother was Jewish or not.

[Shurik70]

Quote: 7gor

She took off his helmet from a fighter, put it on himself .... and you’re “yours!” Then “they’ll make their own” tricks! You need to chip the fighters

Most likely it will. The chip has a small radius of "communication", and the beacon has a large radius. So, most likely, they will tie a specific beacon to a specific chip. Then the beacon will not only tell “friend or foe”, but also report the name and state of health (via the chip).
The necessary thing. And inevitable. Although a particular beacon has a funny design

[voyaka uh]

"The fighters themselves need to be chipped" ///

The signals of such chips will not be strong enough
in order to be distinguished by air support:
drones, helicopters, airplanes. Therefore - not good.
Although the massive "chipirovanie" soldiers (and civilians too)
is about to happen. But not for these purposes, but for medical
and household.

[Kasandra]

developed high-quality markers (emitters) with which you can easily distinguish yours from a stranger during a battle,

And why all this? Jews and so each other can smell a mile away without any markers .. So they have the essence (just kidding))))

[SHURUM -BURUM]

Colleagues, nothing new. Americans have long used infrared flashlights on helmets for operations against the Holodrans who do not have nightlights. And the Israelis delicately deployed the wealthy starving with nightlights, simply by switching to the mid-IR range, where nightlights are not seen by definition. That's all. And against a regular army equipped with thermal imagers, this is suicide. Israelis, switch to code division in the infrared range!

[srha]

To amplify the signal, a friend / alien from the implanted chip can be a repeater, for example on a helmet.

[cost]

In Israel, developed the latest recognition system "friend or foe"

If you are for Trump - yours, if against - alien

[sogdy]

Quote: srha

To amplify the signal, a friend / alien from the implanted chip can be a repeater, for example on a helmet.

Ecelops?

[Doliva63]

Nothing is new under the moon https://inforeactor.ru/110652-nevidimoe-oko-rossi
iskogo-specnaza-unikalnaya-razrabotka-inzhenerov

[MPN]

For me, one more weapon was thrown .... to illuminate the entire battlefield with "our own" and there are no problems ..., I don’t think it’s real ...

[Vladimir 5]

Why else would someone "shine", just "hone" the homing head for these infrared fireflies of ATGM-s and off we go, broomstick ...

[Magic archer]

It was time long ago. Too many casualties from friendly fire. For example, in Iraq, almost all the lost English Challengers were shot down by their own. During the first Chechen incident there was a brother. He told me. At night a shootout, the wounded, and then they learned that they were from another brigade of boys in a breakthrough went from the environment ... So a very necessary thing

[voyaka uh]

Sure. And such attempts have been made more than once.
But the indicators of a friend or foe of the ground forces were not distinct enough for the Air Force. They told me how in Gaza, in street battles, where their small detachments and militants "messed up" in the streets (and even at night), the attack helicopter pilot, confused, barked at the radio: "whoever hears me - get on the ground, do not move."
And he began to mow from the Volcano, those who continued to move.
Fortunately, everyone heard their own. And the situation was discharged.
Such sensors had to be installed “yesterday”.

[Magic archer]

Street fighting is generally hell. From every window, basement you can catch a bullet from anywhere. I remember I read in some magazine what else in 90 the Americans tried to do something similar, but the level of technology did not allow it. Now I think it's quite real. At least markers for your friends at night it’s quite possible to do. So that in PNV you can see who is here who

[Zaurbek]

..fairy tales. There are HE shells and shrapnel all the same you lie there or force and the scattering of shells is still there.

[voyaka uh]

In areas of urban development try not to apply
fragmentation ammunition. Apply armor-piercing concrete.
The Volcano has a caliber of 20 mm. What are the fragments?

[Zaurbek]

And what is the scatter? At the volcano?

[voyaka uh]

I do not know. But he saw (from afar) how the helicopter threw back several meters back when he fired from a cannon with a cannon.

[Zaurbek]

The only helicopter with some claim to accuracy - Ka 50/52 - due to the location of the gun and its characteristics. And even he could hardly have done that.

[sabakina]

Alexey, from a helicopter, on land, from the Volcano? And how did the ammunition work out, who is mine? At a height of 1.5 meters switched to a steady flight mode?

[Totah155]

Quote: sabakina

Alexey, from a helicopter, on land, from the Volcano? And how did the ammunition work out, who is mine? At a height of 1.5 meters switched to a steady flight mode?

You look into the thermal imager. time.
Groups of those who do not move are ignored. Two
For those who move, you aim the visor of the sight and press on the trigger. Three.
I did not see the problem.

[scientist]

Nonsense! And what individual walkie-talkies are no longer needed? Or they think that all their lives they will fight with the blind Papuans, who will never understand their electronics.
The most reliable identification is by radio station. Firstly, it is done only on request, which reduces the likelihood of interception and detection. Secondly, no one except a living fighter will be able to enter the identification key.

[Maki Avellevich]

Quote: scientist

The most reliable identification is by radio station.

Do you think that everyone on the battlefield is on the same channel?

will the pilot of the plane ask the infantry to wave their hands?

[scientist]

Quote: Maki Avellievich

Do you think that everyone on the battlefield is on the same channel?

In the modern army, including your old Tadiran radios, Ip-telephony has long been implemented. Therefore, the network is built in accordance with the structure and objectives. In this case, the main method of combat control is the transfer of commands that are displayed on the tablet. Voice control can theoretically be used, but practically applied either by untrained military personnel, or in emergency cases.

[Maki Avellevich]

Quote: scientist

In the modern army, including your old Tadiran radios, Ip-telephony has long been implemented. Therefore, the network is built in accordance with the structure and objectives. In this case, the main method of combat control is the transfer of commands that are displayed on the tablet. Voice control can theoretically be used, but practically applied either by untrained military personnel, or in emergency cases.

I remember at the students I was on the leading armored personnel carrier. an officer at the bottom with an assistant trying to figure out a card, talking on the intercom.
I corrected the driver on the same channel. it was at night the driver did not see a damn thing
we all interrupted each other.
in the end, the driver yelled that we’ll either go or talk about the card. or an armored personnel carrier will fly to such a mother downhill. (in other words)
and you say during the battle you can identify someone on the radio. when you shoot yourself you would understand who whom and where

[scientist]

Quote: Maki Avellievich

during the battle you can identify someone on the radio

not by walkie-talkie, but by a digital map on the commander’s tablet. In principle, the same card, only with backlight and all information is updated in real time. At the same time, you do not need to yell, take a marker, indicate where you are moving and all yours are in the know.
Tadiran generally masters show beautiful videos. It is clear that there really are few such systems in the troops.

[voyaka uh]

"The most reliable identification is by radio" ////

The most unreliable. During the battle, they talk on the same wavelength
a few commanders - such a “noise" begins that it’s sorted out
difficult setting. And this is for commander radios. And with personal
- more chatter.
Walkie-talkies - yesterday. Today, communication is a network with notes on the displays.
No negotiation.

[Massik]

Quote: scientist

Nonsense! And what individual walkie-talkies are no longer needed?

There will be a war with an equal opponent, there will be other solutions. First, losses, and then decisions. Experience is such a thing, comes with practice. Israel maintains the readiness of its Armed Forces in accordance with the degree of the existing threat, and it turns out wonderful for them.

[XXXIII]

In Israel, developed the latest recognition system "friend or foe"

Taki everything was invented before the Jews, just the Jews still did not understand it ....

[2329 Carpenter]

If we are as before Vel. We will not begin to notice foreign novelties in the Patriotic War without taking any measures to give similar answers - it will be very difficult for us to fight even in local conflicts.
Fighting with hats, slippers, baklagas with a beer in front of the monitors, taunting the nationality of serious and necessary developments is easier than sending the boys to the slaughter in droves.
Or few examples in our history?

[XXXIII]

Quote: Carpenter 2329

If we are as before Vel. We will not begin to notice foreign novelties in the Patriotic War without taking any measures to give similar answers - it will be very difficult for us to fight even in local conflicts.
Fighting with hats, slippers, baklagas with a beer in front of the monitors, taunting the nationality of serious and necessary developments is easier than sending the boys to the slaughter in droves.
Or few examples in our history?

Before the Second World War, too, a lot of things were created, but all this did not help much from a quick and lightning attack. Fortunately, the land is big, there was much to retreat. Yes, there is an old, reliable, time-tested invention, the "password" ....
How long did it take to decipher the German Enigma machine and how it helped from the advance of the Red Army ....
And how do you imagine a stranger among the military who know each other in person ...

[2329 Carpenter]

The Germans created before the war, and during the war brought to mind jet airplanes, KR and RSD, radar and radar and still have a few. This is from a fundamentally new species.
From simpler devices: we did not draw conclusions even from the operation of a single machine gun with tape power, leaving ourselves 70 kg Maxim and DP with an archaic disk and a return spring in the gas pipe (???!)
It’s possible to write something else on this subject, but here it’s still not a historical branch.
As for the passwords and knowledge of their comrades-in-arms in person, that is the question: where do the losses from "friendly fire" come from?

[sogdy]

Quote: Carpenter 2329

If we are as before Vel. World War II will not notice foreign news

Quote: Carpenter 2329

The Germans created before the war, and during the war brought to mind jet airplanes, KR and RSD, radar and radar, and there are still numbers

Quote: Carpenter 2329

we did not draw conclusions even from the operation of a single machine gun with tape power, leaving ourselves 70 kg Maxim and DP with an archaic disk and a return spring in the gas pipe (???!)

Where are you from, child? We held a high-tech army along the entire length of the Chinese (then Japanese) border and to Kamchatka. During the "non-fighting" there died 3 million (not counting the wounded).
In addition, they kept the Turkish border (including the contingent abroad) and Suez. There, irreversible losses exceeded 2 million, including Russian Poles and Germans.
And they created a sufficient number of ballistic missiles with which they were ready to gouge Japan. This is the same training ground where Katyusha was created.
But German jet aircraft, the best examples of which had a maximum range of 380 km (those that were thrown near Berlin, had a range of no more than 100) did not become relevant.
Only in the north there was a lull, but there were breakouts.

[Professor]

About 25% of losses in the IDF were from "friendly" fire will now be less. The main thing is that the beacons do not shine strongly in the sights of the enemy.

[Massik]

While the enemy does not have the proper scientific basis for the development and production of such sights, there is nothing to be afraid of, as well as money to order them. As it appears, it will no longer be before the beacons, tanks and aircraft will create much more problems than friendly fire.

[skeptic31]

For Israel, this is very important. During the war of the 73rd year, every third plane shot down by Israeli air defense was his own. Since then, they are afraid of everything and prefer to act stealthily.

[Nikolaevich I]

Identification system: "friend or foe" is included in the equipment "Ratnik" (Russia) ...

[SHURUM -BURUM]

Interestingly, enlighten ... Only about what is included, and not about what they wanted.

[viktor.]

Quote: voyaka uh

Although the massive "chipping" of soldiers (and civilians too)
is about to happen. But not for these purposes, but for medical
and household.

Like Scot, you can find out where anyone is at any time, you can manage that Scot and even kill in the end.