Stories about weapons. ZSU-23-4 "Shilka" outside and inside

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We smoothly move from ZSU-57-2 to a great (and absolutely not afraid of this word) successor. “Shaitan Arba” - “Shilke”.



One can talk endlessly about this complex, but one short phrase is enough: “In the ranks with 1965 of the year”. And enough, by and large.



History... The history of creation was replicated in such a way that it is unrealistic to add something new or piquant, but, speaking of “Shilka”, it is impossible not to note a few facts that simply fit “Shilka” into our military history.

So, the 60s of the last century. Jet aircraft have already ceased to be a miracle, representing a very serious striking force. With completely different speeds and maneuvering capabilities. Helicopters also got on the propeller and were considered not only as a vehicle, but also as quite decent armory platform.

And most importantly, the helicopters began to try to catch up with the aircraft of World War II, and the aircraft completely overtook their predecessors.

And with all this it was necessary to do something. Especially at the army level, "in the fields."

Yes, anti-aircraft missile systems appeared. Still stationary. Thing promising, but in the future. But the main load was still carried by anti-aircraft guns of all sizes and calibers.

We have already talked about the ZSU-57-2 and the difficulties faced by the calculations of installations when working on low-flying fast targets. Anti-aircraft systems ZU-23, ZP-37, ZSU-57 could hit the speed targets by accident. Projectiles installations, percussion, without a fuse, for a guaranteed defeat should have hit the target itself. How high was the probability of a direct hit, I do not presume to judge.

The situation was somewhat better with the C-60 anti-aircraft guns, which could be guided automatically according to the data of the RPK-1 radio system.

But on the whole, there was no talk about any exact anti-aircraft fire. Anti-aircraft guns could put a barrier in front of the plane, force the pilot to drop bombs or launch missiles with less accuracy.

"Shilka" was a breakthrough in the field of destruction of flying targets at low altitudes. Plus mobility, which is already rated by ZSU-57-2. But the main thing is accuracy.



Today, all those who think in modern categories, the term "autonomous complex" is taken for granted. And in the sixties it was a feat of design thought, the pinnacle of engineering solutions.

General Designer Nikolai Alexandrovich Astrov managed to create an unparalleled machine that showed itself perfectly in combat conditions. And more than once.

Stories about weapons. ZSU-23-4 "Shilka" outside and inside


This is despite the fact that Astrov was not an authority in the field of creating anti-aircraft systems! He was a constructor tanks!

Small amphibious tanks T-38 and T-40, tracked armored tractor T-20 "Komsomolets", light tanks T-30, T-60, T-70, self-propelled installation of SU-76М. And other, less well-known or not going into a series of models.

What is the ZSU-23-4 "Shilka"?

Perhaps we should start with the destination.

Shilka is designed to protect the combat forces of troops, columns on the march, stationary objects and railway trains from attacking an air enemy at altitudes from 100 to 1500 meters, at ranges from 200 to 2500 meters at target speeds up to 450 m / s. "Shilka" can fire from a place and in motion, equipped with equipment that provides an independent circular and sector search targets, their support, the development of pointing angles of guns.

The armament of the complex consists of the 23-mm quad automatic anti-aircraft cannon AZP-23 "Amur" and a system of power drives designed for targeting.







The second component of the complex is the radar-instrument complex RPK-2М. His appointment is also understandable. Guidance and fire control.




Specifically, this machine is upgraded in the late 80-x, judging by the commanding triplex and night sight.




Important aspect: “Shilka” can work both with radar and with conventional optical sight aiming device.

Locator provides search, detection, automatic tracking of the target, determines its coordinates. But in the middle of the 70s, the Americans invented and started arming missiles that could locate a radar beam and hit it. This is where simplicity came in handy.

The third component. The chassis of the GM-575, on which everything, in fact, is mounted.









The crew of the Shilka consists of four people: the commander of the ZSU, the search-gunner operator, the range operator and the driver.

The driver is the most criminal member of the crew. It is in stunning luxury, compared to others.









The rest are in the tower, where it is not enough that closely and as in a normal tank there is something to attach one's head, so also (so it seemed to us) it can easily and naturally apply current. Very closely.




Places of the operator range and gunner operator. Top view in hanging state.



Locator Screen










Analog electronics ... You look with reverent trembling. On the round screen of the oscilloscope, apparently, the operator and determined the range ... Wow ...

Shilka received baptism of fire during the so-called “War of attrition” of the 1967-70 between Israel and Egypt as part of the Egyptian air defense. And after that on the account of a complex two more tens local wars and conflicts. Mostly in the Middle East.

But Shilka received special recognition in Afghanistan. And the honorary nickname "Shaitan Arba" among the Mujahideen. The best way to calm down an ambush organized in the mountains is to use the Shilka. A long line of four barrels and the subsequent heavy rain of high-explosive shells at the alleged positions is the best means of saving more than one hundred lives of our soldiers.



By the way, the fuse quite normally worked when it hit the adobe wall. And the attempt to hide behind the branches of the villages usually didn’t bring good spirits to anything ...

Given that aviation the Afghan partisans did not have, "Shilka" fully realized its potential for firing at ground targets in the mountains.

Moreover, a special “Afghan version” was created: a radio-sampling facility was withdrawn, which was completely unnecessary in those conditions. Due to him, the ammunition was increased from 2000 to 4000 shots and a night sight was set.



Towards the end of the stay of our troops in the DRA, the columns, accompanied by the Shilka, were rarely attacked. This is also a recognition.



Also recognition can be considered that in our army "Shilka" is still in the ranks. Over 30 years. Yes, this is not the car, which began its career in Egypt. Shilka transferred (successfully) more than one deep modernization, and one of such upgrades even got its own name, ZSU-23-4М Biryusa.

39 countries, and not only our "true friends", purchased these machines from the Soviet Union.



And today the Shilka is also in service with the Russian army. But this is a completely different car, which should lead a separate story.
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  1. +8
    22 June 2018 06: 22
    I saw it in business ... It’s scary to watch from the side ... And if you get under the distribution ...
    1. +16
      22 June 2018 10: 19
      If you throw out all the internal junk, replace it with modern modules and install an LCD monitor, then there will be enough space not only for the commander, search operator, and gunner, but you can even add a rubber woman to the crew to relax on vacation.
      1. +10
        22 June 2018 11: 59
        Quote: The Truth
        but you can even add a rubber woman to the crew to relax on vacation.

        Wife left or what? wink
        According to the article - thanks to Roman for the cycle, he realized my old dream - to climb the tanks inside. In our technical museum of the VAZ there are plenty of different tanks, including Shilka, but the hatches are all welded up. It's a pity.... crying
        1. +3
          27 June 2018 14: 35
          Quote: Ingvar 72
          but all hatches are welded


          And this, that would not put a rubber woman.
      2. +9
        22 June 2018 13: 29
        Quote: The Truth
        If you throw out all the internal junk, replace it with modern modules and install an LCD monitor, then there will be enough space not only for the commander, search operator, and gunner, but you can even add a rubber woman to the crew to relax on vacation.

        The problem is that already in the early 80s, the Shilka were considered obsolete, not because of the SUAO, but because of the armament: the effective launch range of ATGMs and other aviation ASM exceeded the effective range of 23 mm ZSU cannons. The “tunguska” became the answer to new challenges, and the “shilka” began to be transferred to the second tier and Siberia / Far East.
      3. 0
        22 June 2018 22: 55
        not only for the commander, search operator and operator-gunner, but you can even add a rubber woman to the crew to relax on vacation
        Someone was telling that they had “Shilki” or “Tunguska” in their unit, and there was a dude who loved his car very much and constantly spent time there on maintenance, including including the radar. So he was demobilized for health reasons, all his hair on his head Yes, and before the women, judging by the symptoms of the case, he was no longer there.
      4. 0
        24 June 2018 09: 06
        It is tempting. I gave a plush teddy bear to one lover of "near-sniper affairs". Fun for the sake of. So he drags his Tere with him. He speaks very well. And under the box and under the head you can put it on a backpack from the back it catches. A terrible person .. So you, too, are there with more careful advice ...)))))
    2. 0
      25 June 2018 13: 37
      Also seen in the exercises. Some kind of modification, a sheaf of fire and a roar. The dragon is simple.
  2. +1
    22 June 2018 07: 20
    https://topwar.ru/752-shilka-zsu-23-4.html

    History of creation
    1. 0
      22 June 2018 07: 52
      Thanks for the link hi
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    1. +4
      22 June 2018 14: 45
      Harsh comment laughing
      Normal introductory article, this is not a reference material.
      Simplicity, which is not clear - this is an optical sight (sight, simply put). Shoot wherever you want, not including the locator.
      On missiles: PRLS (anti-radar projectile) is our traditional terminology, not PRR. These missiles with 70 are both “air-to-ground” and “- to ship”, and, do not believe it, are “air-to-air” (now we have it R-27P). This is me to the question of the defeat of mobile radar.
      Well, about the current helicopters that drive up to 320 km / h - the right comparison; IL-2 maximum speed 410, and in the mobilization version and 350 did not (grandfather flew).
      1. +2
        22 June 2018 16: 22
        Quote: KVIRTU
        Harsh comment

        The comment is really harsh, here I agree with you. It looks from the side, as if a schoolboy was writing.
        Quote: KVIRTU
        On missiles: PRLS (anti-radar projectile) is our traditional terminology, not PRR. These missiles with 70 are both “air-to-ground” and “- to ship”, and, do not believe it, are “air-to-air” (now we have it R-27P). This is me to the question of the defeat of mobile radar.

        Here you are 100% wrong. All of these missiles can be hindered by a moving target, but not by a moving radar. Why?. I honestly guess the same question. There is a method of navigating missiles at moving targets when they are irradiated from the side. (Semi-active guidance). There is a method of pointing at moving targets that pose active interference. (Pointing at interference). But there is still no method of guiding missiles at their own radar target radar, if it moves at a speed (if it is).
        Otherwise, everything would be very simple: turn on the radar-on-you PRR.
        Why mankind has not solved this problem (yet) I honestly do not know. But I'm not the smartest. Maybe someone on this forum knows and sheds light.
        1. +1
          22 June 2018 17: 27
          I agree with you that the partners in the 70s with their Hughes Brazo "air-to-air" cheerfully took up, but did not accept them. Why - it’s not clear. Of. version - low radiation power of airborne radars.
          The same fate is in the "air-ship" ...
          Well, maybe ours with the R-27 did not let us down? request
          1. +2
            22 June 2018 21: 55
            Well, the funny thing is that if Shilka will ride in a convoy with a speed of kilometers so 20 per hour, then the super-tricked HAARM of the last modification is also "past".
    2. +2
      22 June 2018 15: 14
      And most importantly, helicopters began to try to catch up with the planes of World War II.
      How helicopters can catch the speed of the second m (M fool) irova aircraft is also decidedly incomprehensible. "Smoke" aerodynamics section: swashplate.

      The maximum speed of I-16 at the ground is slightly higher than 400 km / h (and these are the latest modifications), the AH-64 has a maximum speed in the region of 360 km / h, as I recall. The difference is not so great. So what made you so upset?
      By the way, the correct spelling is "World War II".
      1. +2
        22 June 2018 16: 30
        Quote: CentDo
        By the way, the correct spelling is "World War II".

        I always had 3 in Russian, so I apologize to the author of the article.
        Quote: CentDo
        The maximum speed of I-16 at the ground is slightly higher than 400 km / h (and these are the latest modifications), the AH-64 has a maximum speed in the region of 360 km / h, as I recall. The difference is not so great. So what made you so upset?

        Well here you are wrong in my opinion too. You would have compared World War I trips with Apache. All the same, World War II and 1 km fighters near the ground (naturally low) could do quietly.
        500 and 360 still strongly differ from the point of view of solving air defense problems.
        I'm not saying that World War 2 fighters could rise to a height where the small anti-aircraft guns generally have no chance.
        And the author of the article here writes, they started to catch up.
        1. +2
          22 June 2018 18: 22
          Guys, well, where are the fighters. Work on the forefront of attack aircraft. He wrote about IL-2; and the same Yu-87 had a maximum speed of 320.
          An interesting point, who does not know: the partners used the trophy Shilka for checks and tests during the development of the A-10, and achieved certain successes. After which ours urgently took up the "Tunguska" (30 mm).
          1. +2
            22 June 2018 22: 02
            Quote: KVIRTU
            Guys, well, where are the fighters. Work on the forefront of attack aircraft. He wrote about IL-2; and the same Yu-87 had a maximum speed of 320.

            Here I agree with you, but Apache IMHO anyway, from the point of view of energetic (energy) maneuvers on the battlefield, in principle, the goal is easier than IL-2 for Shilka. Chance to hit, shorter more.
            1. 0
              25 June 2018 10: 34
              I do not pretend to be true, but in my opinion you are mistaken. Il-2 could not perform any special maneuvers, especially until the first approach to the target. The machine is heavy and inert. And the armaments of that time required a clear course, otherwise you just won’t get anywhere.
              1. +1
                25 June 2018 13: 48
                Quote: CentDo
                I do not pretend to be true, but in my opinion you are mistaken. Il-2 could not perform any special maneuvers, especially until the first approach to the target. The machine is heavy and inert. And the armaments of that time required a clear course, otherwise you just won’t get anywhere.

                The argument, in my opinion, does not make sense here. I meant that Shilka was in an "ambush", and the "Apache" or "Il" were flying on the "cruising" and under fire began to maneuver. Those. absolute "spherokonin". And in order to take into account absolutely all factors, including tactics, weapons features, piloting features, features of the Shilka itself, etc. etc. it is necessary to create a document for competent people, so pages at least 500. And then, on its basis, if it is still sufficiently “verified”, it can be concluded (approximately anyway) that it’s harder for Shilke to hit Apache or IL-2.
                It is interesting of course, but humanity has more important problems. So it seems not in our life crying
        2. 0
          25 June 2018 10: 29
          Well, for the sake of objectivity, it is worth noting that the author mentions "airplanes", not fighters. I cited the example of I-16 offhand. About the speed of the IL-2 and Yu-87, it makes no sense at all.
    3. 0
      23 June 2018 11: 04
      a small clarification off-topic - for 2000 the world speed record for helicopters is 400 km / h and some thousandths there, the English Link, and the Mi-6 had the former --- 360 km / h so that the turntables fly at a speed of the best case of IL-2, if we talk about modern 2MV aircraft
  4. +3
    22 June 2018 09: 02
    A great thing to hammer on infantry and light armored vehicles direct fire. Only fragments mixed with debris fly apart
  5. +2
    22 June 2018 09: 55
    Roman gets wonderful stories about weapons and I would ask him not to be distracted from the chosen topic.
    The first thing you need to first bow to the ground Nikolai Alexandrovich Astrov TALENTED designer. Many of his creations, I am not afraid of the word, are unique. In my opinion, it would be fair to immortalize his name in the name of the design bureau: "N. A. Astrov Design Bureau", the car sounds solid!
    Around 1990, I read a report from an arms exhibition in Abu Dhabi and it said that "Cones" have a competitor-German installation "volcano", it seems 37 mm ", it is good for everyone: comfortable, high-quality and more powerful, but could not lead fire on the move. Perhaps we also need to increase the caliber so that the "partners" are guaranteed to be "satisfied." Still, since 1965 the equipment has not stood still and the speed has increased and the armament has changed
    Although, somewhere in the media it flashed that beyond the hill for small-caliber installations, they created new, more long-range ammunition. Perhaps I did not understand correctly, and maybe reporters what to bring. Now reporters do not really worry about accuracy and reliability.
    1. 0
      22 June 2018 13: 38
      The Soviet army also did not stand still from 1965. To replace the "Shilka" was made "Tunguska". She has not only thicker trunks - 30 mm instead of 23 mm, but also added missiles.
    2. 0
      22 June 2018 13: 46
      Quote: Royalist
      Around 1990, I read a report from an arms exhibition in Abu Dhabi and it said that "Bumps" have a competitor-German installation "volcano", it seems 37 mm ", it is good for everyone: comfortable, high-quality and more powerful, but could not lead fire on the go.

      M163 "Volcano" is the USA. Converted into an anti-aircraft gun aviation six-barrel gatling M61 on the chassis M113. The problem is the same. as with the "shilka" - too small effective range.
      And the Germans had a Cheetah. A pair of 35 mm cannons in the tower on the Leo-1 chassis. They write that he could work both from a place and in motion.
      The Cheetah anti-aircraft self-propelled gun is designed to directly cover ground troops, to destroy air targets at inclined ranges from 0,1 to 4 km and at altitudes of up to 3 km, flying at speeds of up to 350-400 m / s, as well as ground targets at ranges up to 4500 m from standstill, with a short stop and on the move.
      Navigation equipment provides the determination of the direction of movement of the anti-aircraft installation, its current coordinates for taking into account parallax when targeting and taking into account the movement of the ZSU along the course when solving the problem of meeting the projectile with a target.
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  7. 0
    22 June 2018 13: 36
    Thanks to the author. hi
    The driver is the most criminal member of the crew. It is in stunning luxury, compared to others.
    I remember the stories of our anti-aircraft gunners that while a mechanic was catching a dolphin during a movement, a separate “bathtub” was already ready for him.
    1. +2
      22 June 2018 21: 31
      Well, as one of my colleagues likes to say, such is the specifics of the work ...
  8. +1
    22 June 2018 21: 29
    Yes! How I would like to have such a car in my garden! Respect me unbearably ...
  9. 0
    22 June 2018 22: 37
    To a certain degree Flakpanzer T-34 747 (r) can be considered the predecessor ZSU-23-4 «Shilka». smile
    http://military-photo.com/germany/afv2/aa-gun2/fl
    akpanzer-t34 / 14027-photo.html
    1. Alf
      +4
      22 June 2018 23: 35
      Quote: VictorZhivilov
      To some extent, the Flakpanzer T-34 747 (r) can be considered the predecessor of the ZSU-23-4 Shilka.

      Well, the stump is clear, if the Russians somewhere invented something, then the prototype was created by the Germans, but the body knows when. What is there in common? Tracked base?
      1. 0
        2 July 2018 11: 01
        Well, the stump is clear, if the Russians somewhere invented something, then the prototype was created by the Germans, but the body knows when.

        Well, why immediately be offended! The Germans created good, combat-ready anti-aircraft systems and how to use them. The Russians only brought these systems and methods to the absolute. And, there is nothing wrong with that. smile

        What is there in common?

        Well, at least a concept: Quad 20 mm anti-aircraft mount on a tracked chassis. smile
        http://military-photo.com/germany/afv2/aa-gun2/wi
        rbelwind / 10852-photo.html
        http://military-photo.com/unsorted/10267-photo.ht
        ml
  10. 0
    23 June 2018 08: 30
    Beauty and power! laughing
  11. 0
    23 June 2018 22: 50
    The school said that in a few seconds, the “shilka” leaves the tank “naked”. By the way, I recently saw a video on the Internet, Ukrainians are considering the issue of upgrading ZSU data.
    1. 0
      25 June 2018 13: 43
      And after shilka from a dynamic (or how to) a hit in the tank, does the crew fall into a grogg?
      1. 0
        10 July 2018 12: 17
        3.14 are waiting! Does not flow. But it’s a shame when the optics roll in and the outer zip is lost.
  12. 0
    26 June 2018 06: 54
    yes .. smart device)))
  13. 0
    28 June 2018 18: 41
    It would be necessary to transfer it to a caliber of 30 mm, plus the replacement of electronics and the engine ... The beast-machine will be ..
  14. 0
    10 July 2018 12: 14
    Quote: KVIRTU
    An interesting point, who does not know: the partners used the trophy Shilka for checks and tests during the development of the A-10, and achieved certain successes. After which ours urgently took up the "Tunguska" (30 mm).

    And for those who know that the tunguska began to be developed before the appearance of the Amer Warthog and Apache what to do. The impetus for the development was the desire to cut off the range of launching of helicopters from a helicopter after the successful use of those in the next Arab-Israeli war.

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