Kikabidze in an interview with DW: I hate the emblem of the USSR

Actor Vakhtang Kikabidze, known for many Soviet films, recognized as a true classic of Russian cinema, gave an interview to the German information service. Deutsche Welle. In this interview, the people's artist of the Georgian SSR reflects on life in the Soviet Union, as well as on Russia, which has not been around for about 10 years.

Kikabidze, whom tens of millions of viewers love and respect in Russia for his acting work, to put it mildly, is unflattering about the Russian Federation itself. Recall that Kikabidze in 2008 year, announced that in Russia "no foot" because of the "Russian aggression." That same “aggression”, when, by Saakashvili’s personal order, the Georgian army killed Russian peacekeepers and fired Tskhinvali from fire at Gradov.

In an interview dedicated to the 80 anniversary of the artist, which was taken by Zhanna Nemtsov, Kikabidze said that he was very pleased with the collapse of the Soviet Union.

Kikabidze:

Even the table was laid. The guys sat, walked. (...) It was difficult to imagine that this huge colossus could be smashed to smithereens.

According to Kikabidze, he hates the emblem of the USSR. The hammer and sickle of the Georgian (Soviet) actor called the symbol of “bad life” and expressed doubt about the mental abilities of those who invented this emblem.

According to Kikabidze, the only advantage of the USSR is that he considers interethnic respect, which he believes is not there now.

Interviewee:

Everything else was very bad.

And even the Soviet cinema, one of the symbols of which was (thanks to the Soviet school) and Mr. Kikabidze himself?

At the same time, Kikabidze declared in fact support for Georgian aggression against South Ossetia in 2008, since "creeping annexation was going on, and the Russian military constantly moved the wire towards Georgia."

In this connection, an interesting question arises: if it were not for the USSR, who would know today about such an old Georgian citizen as Vakhtang Kikabidze? And if a man so hated the USSR and everything Soviet, how then did he allow himself to play in Soviet motion pictures.

And when did this man fake? - then or now ...

It should be noted that for the majority of Russians, Kikabidze is not associated with today's statements, but with his roles in Soviet cinema.

Comments

[MPN]

Senility? Or everything climbs out ...? Ponte above honor ...

[Vend]

You have to be an ungrateful person to denigrate a country that has raised it to great heights.

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

Quote: Wend

You have to be an ungrateful person to denigrate a country that has raised it to great heights.

most of all watered by the Union are precisely those who lived happily ever after and were kindly treated, but none of them turned out to be either of ranks or of prizes, Ilyich was right, "the intelligentsia is mainly a nation"

[Opera]

But Ilyich’s quotes must be careful! He spoke no better of the Russian people, and Marx and Engels of the Slavs so simply hated believing them to be complete conservatives, but a Bolshevik counter! Yes, and you’re sorry, of course, Vladimir Ivanovich, but can an intellectual approve of the shooting from the city at night with sleeping residents ?! What kind of intellectual is this Kikabidze ?! Namely, that the unsatisfied mediocrity ascended on the basis of a small-town national sign (we were very fond of the party apparatchiks of Soviet Georgia and Georgians) to beyond the clouds! Mimino remember? The question is asked to the hero Kikabidze - and who is Mimino ?! He himself answers this very honestly - the bird is small so nobody in general! There is also an iconic phrase in this film - you know that Mimin, who was loading the chickens, roll you sausage along Malaya Spasskaya!

[The black]

Sometimes it's better to sing than to talk .... ..... grandfather of Vakhtang, by virtue of age, is clearly progressing senile dementia.

[Avis-bis]

Quote: Oper

Who is Mimino ?! He himself answers this very honestly - the bird is small so nobody in general!

This question related to the song "Chita-Brita" (or how to transliterate it correctly?).

[Opera]

Exactly! Chita fell out of the comment. The essence remains! Thanks for the correction.)

[assa67]

Igor, good evening. Kika -as it was-and stayed ...... it was DONE .... the Union had a policy: in each republic, its own "bastard" ...... from bulbul-oglu to weighty .......... and this hmm, I just remember: I want Larisa-Ivanovna ......... and now all the churbanoids imagined that it was

[kasatky]

Chita-brita hait my homeland? Then I will erase his name from memory. And I’ll write the nickname on the black list.

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

Quote: Oper

He spoke of the Russian people no better

and?
in a particular case, is he right or not?

[Opera]

I did not read what Lenin was talking about Kikabidze. Excuse me.

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

but generally read?

[Opera]

Unlike you, he even studied the history of the CPSU at the institute. The academic hours devoted to this matter in higher educational institutions of the USSR were more than specialized subjects.

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

Quote: Oper

Unlike you, he even studied the history of the CPSU at the institute.

received well for her, in connection with the opportunist views
By the way, studying the history of the CPSU does not mean that you read the works of Ilyich

Quote: Oper

At the institute. The academic hours devoted to this matter in higher educational institutions of the USSR were more than specialized subjects.

the back does not hurt from bullshit ?!
God forbid, physics department of KazSU history of the CPSU two lectures and one seminar per week, guess the number of hours of physics of mathematical analysis and analytical geometry

[PalBor]

Quote: Oper

But Ilyich’s quotes must be careful! He spoke no better of the Russian people, and Marx and Engels of the Slavs so simply hated believing them to be complete conservatives, but a Bolshevik counter! Yes, and you’re sorry, of course, Vladimir Ivanovich, but can an intellectual approve of the shooting from the city at night with sleeping residents ?! What kind of intellectual is this Kikabidze ?! Namely, that the unsatisfied mediocrity ascended on the basis of a small-town national sign (we were very fond of the party apparatchiks of Soviet Georgia and Georgians) to beyond the clouds! Mimino remember? The question is asked to the hero Kikabidze - and who is Mimino ?! He himself answers this very honestly - the bird is small so nobody in general! There is also an iconic phrase in this film - you know that Mimin, who was loading the chickens, roll you sausage along Malaya Spasskaya!

By the way, Igor, I’ll correct it. This is a cheat-grit - a small bird, and Mimino - a kite. It is the kite that is being translated. Oops Danelia later said that he was forced to exchange a kite for a falcon. But in reality ...

[Opera]

Yes so. They already corrected me about cheating!)

[Mexovoy]

Proof where Lenin speaks poorly of the Russian people. According to M.V. Popov, who had studied all of Lenin along and across, wrote nothing like Lenin.

[Opera]

So many Leninist letters, telegrams, and orders have been published that you can easily find all this, including the comments of Lenin historians. Do not be cunning. I will bring to you personally the order of the most humane person, saturated with hatred of the Russian Orthodox people. Order of December 29, 1919: “It’s stupid to put up with“ Nicola ”, you have to put all the Cheka on its feet to shoot those who didn’t come to work ...” It was a cleanup. On Nikolai Ugodnik in Russia, as usual, they did not work. Nikolai the Miracle Worker has always been the most revered saint in Russia, but he provoked such hatred in Ilyich. However, the good grandfather Ilyich was very loyal to Catholics, Jews, Muslims and Buddhists ...

[a housewife]

In fact, Nikolai the Miracle Worker and Nikolai the Pleasant are one and the same person. But there were quite a lot of holidays in his honor.

[militia2]

Both Lenin and Stalin did not talk nonsense about the Russian people. You bring a fake from a book by a certain Latyshev from 1996. It was fun time - 90s. They crushed the self-consciousness of the people with relish, with a crunch, insolently, not allowing him to come to their senses.
Somewhere in the country house I kept old newspapers of the time with evidence that Zoya Kosmodemyanskaya was a sexually dissatisfied prostitute, that the writer Gaidar was a pederast and a sadomasochist, and these were still flowers .... As you recall, what happened then was breaking your mind normal people ... but it’s best not to recall. Well, and finally, the result. Finally came to a frenzy. Now it’s already possible to calm down, now no one will take away overwork acquired by overwork and no one will even have such thoughts!
Well, and if you are an Internet lover, look, for example, at materials on the position of the church after the king’s abdication, with what joy they stopped mentioning him at services, about the church’s gangster activity to destroy the state after the revolution, at the letters of thanks from hierarchs to Hitler with prayers about getting rid of communist horror.
And the "good grandfather Lenin" treated everyone the same way if they were enemies of the revolution. There was such a time.

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

Quote: Oper

As many Leninist letters, telegrams and orders have been published

but you can give specific and not the left links that you give

[Vladimir 5]

Firstly, Kikabidze is a Jew by mother, and much is determined by this, - he keeps his nose in the wind, living in Georgia, scolds and hates Russia and Russians (as he personally put it). And what to expect from the red-headed rogue, although today gray-haired, but the rogue ...

[Ivan Ivanov]

Quote: Oper

But Ilyich’s quotes must be careful! He spoke of the Russian people no better

What, for example?

[Opera]

Read above.

[Ivan Ivanov]

Where does the quote come from? For Lenin 1. they invented 2. they lost it out of context. but the Bolsheviks did not forbid believing for freedom of conscience and a church separate from the state, believing in a word, Lenin spoke about this more than once.

[Imobile]

When the word did not work, then works and special stubborn people were brought up by executions. The top of humanism
I'm already starting to believe that the exam was introduced in vain in schools ...

[Ivan Ivanov]

They raised active resistance people by executions, as any power did at that time.

[cast iron]

Yes, it’s you, dear, carefully read, torn from the context of the speech of Ilyich. Read the full text. Perhaps something in the gray matter will clear up.

[sso-xnumx]

So this is precisely what they cannot forgive! From the feeder weaned .......

[Opera]

Speaking about this generation of Georgian Russophobes, then you are right. They were excommunicated from the Russian feeding trough. In the Union, they lived much better than the donor regions of Russia and Belarus. Considered that because of its exclusivity! Sovereignty has come, exclusivity has ended and, most importantly, free money ... Of course, they are worried!

[neri73-r]

Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir

Quote: Wend

You have to be an ungrateful person to denigrate a country that has raised it to great heights.

most of all watered by the Union are precisely those who lived happily ever after and were kindly treated, but none of them turned out to be either of ranks or of prizes, Ilyich was right, "the intelligentsia is mainly a nation"

And when are the pea jesters (actors, singers, musicians) became intellectuals, color and elite of the nation?

[Doliva63]

Quote: neri73-r

Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir

Quote: Wend

You have to be an ungrateful person to denigrate a country that has raised it to great heights.

most of all watered by the Union are precisely those who lived happily ever after and were kindly treated, but none of them turned out to be either of ranks or of prizes, Ilyich was right, "the intelligentsia is mainly a nation"

And when are the pea jesters (actors, singers, musicians) became intellectuals, color and elite of the nation?

Yeah, our buffoons have become an elite

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

Quote: neri73-r

became the intellectuals, color and elite of the nation?

so they always considered themselves to be her

[Captain Pushkin]

Quote: neri73-r

Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir

Quote: Wend

You have to be an ungrateful person to denigrate a country that has raised it to great heights.

most of all watered by the Union are precisely those who lived happily ever after and were kindly treated, but none of them turned out to be either of ranks or of prizes, Ilyich was right, "the intelligentsia is mainly a nation"

And when are the pea jesters (actors, singers, musicians) became intellectuals, color and elite of the nation?

In the 19th century, it was believed in Russia that after visiting the theater you should immediately go to the bathhouse to wash away all this theatrical filth from yourself.

[raw174]

Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir

Ilyich was right, "the intelligentsia - most of the nation"

In fairness, it is worth noting that Ilyich spoke of those who think of themselves as the brains of the nation, of the representatives of the bourgeoisie.

[Golovan Jack]

Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir

Ilyich was right, "the intelligentsia - most of the nation"

Wikiquote has been read, no way? It's unhealthy.
Give a quote completely, plz ... and then you’ll understand how you are now ... were mistakenso I say

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

Quote: Golovan Jack

Wikiquote has been read, no way? It's unhealthy

IN AND. Lenin
A. M. GORKOMU
letter of September 15.09.1919, XNUMX
... The intellectual forces of workers and peasants are growing and gaining strength in the struggle for the overthrow of the bourgeoisie and its accomplices, intellectuals, lackeys of capital, imagining themselves to be the brains of the nation. In fact, this is not the brain, but shit

just about kikabidzah

[Golovan Jack]

Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir

IN AND. Lenin A.M. GORKOMU letter dated 15.09.1919/XNUMX/XNUMX

Well, in time to cut off the quote - that, ahem ... also a talent

Quote: Lenin V.I. Complete Works Volume 51 Letters: September 1919

The intellectual forces of the workers and peasants are growing and gaining strength in the struggle for the overthrow of the bourgeoisie and its accomplices, intellectuals, lackeys of capital, who imagine themselves to be the brains of the nation. In fact, this is not the brain, but r ...
To “intellectual forces” who want to carry science to the people (and not to serve the capital), we pay a salary above the average. It is a fact. We protect them

In this way, it’s not about the intelligentsia as such, but only about some very specific part of it.
Here, check out ... with the original source:

 Mouse - tynts!

https://leninism.su/works/91-tom-51/299-pisma-sen
tybr-1919.html

PS: By the way, the “Quote” is slightly distorted. You will find the difference, or show?
PPS:

Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir

just about kikabidzah

With this clarification, it will do. Only then it would be better to clarify immediately. IMHO.

[Imobile]

I read some of Lenin’s works, they were written as if in a drunken stupor, and sometimes they alone contradicted other statements. Everyone can find something for himself. That's about the destruction of the people https://pikabu.ru/story/vladimir_ilich_lenin_o_ru
sskikh_1799025

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

Next time, don’t waste your time, but immediately refer to the wiki

[Golovan Jack]

Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir

Next time, don’t waste your time, but immediately refer to the wiki

In general, yes. Reading Lenin on a pickaboo is something. A plus

[Imobile]

This is the first link that fell in Google, the essence does not change

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

Quote: Imobile

This is the first link that fell in google

and can you show the second?

[iouris]

As far as I remember, Lenin really called the intelligentsia ““ wed ”..“ oh, ”but he didn’t talk about“ the nation. ”The French revolutionaries who guillotined the“ enemies of the people ”, Hitler, and now the“ Kiev ”were former Russian intellectuals, talking about the nation .

[210ox]

In the photo there are two brothers .. One is inflatable, the second is insane .. But both deer ..

[Pirogov]

Quote: Wend

You have to be an ungrateful person to denigrate a country that has raised it to great heights.

It’s on his conscience, although what a bastard can have a conscience !? And we need to pay less attention to all kinds of dimilidze, etc. ..... a lot of honor for nits.

[g1v2]

All of our Soviet intelligentsia in the 80s was at the heart of this. And those that died and those that are alive. They then dispersed perestroika, carried out the masses of everything and everything. Those who stayed in the Russian Federation imagined themselves to be “the conscience of the nation” and called for repentance to all. You read memoirs or interviews of the then rewarded with awards, how they suffered and always kept a fig in a pocket and it becomes vile. Those who belonged to the elites of the national republic instantly repainted as nationalists. For a simple reason. In the Union they were one of many, and in their own country - the lights of the nation and trendsetters.
Tch Kikabidze or Akhedzhakova do not stand out from their generation - it was the mainstream at that time. Time has changed, but they can’t redo them anymore. Hating them is stupid. They are just a pity. You can watch old Soviet cinema, but don’t think about those who shot it. The whole impression of the product will deteriorate.

[Imobile]

In the Soviet Union, the intelligentsia was destroyed in the bud. Now, what do we have ...

[Doliva63]

Quote: Imobile

In the Soviet Union, the intelligentsia was destroyed in the bud. Now, what do we have ...

Seriously? And then who was I?
My brother was a steelworker - a book-maker and a theater-goer, will he shut up anybody with erudition in his belt - not an intellectual?
And now - yes, of course. Sits at a table, holds a meeting, legs on a table, eats strawberries with sour cream - oligarch, color of the nation, intellectual

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

Quote: Imobile

In the Soviet Union, the intelligentsia was destroyed in the bud. Now, what do we have ...

you say this intelligentsia

[Captain Pushkin]

Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir

Quote: Imobile

In the Soviet Union, the intelligentsia was destroyed in the bud. Now, what do we have ...

you say this intelligentsia

1991 and 1993 showed that there is simply no intelligentsia in the broad sense of the word in the Russian Federation. And most likely it never happened. There was a technical intelligentsia, theatrical and others on a corporate basis.

[kotvov]

In the Soviet Union, the intelligentsia was destroyed in the bud. Now that we have ... ,,
young man, what do you mean by the intelligentsia? Whoever muddied February and failed? Or who collaborated with Hitler? They brainwashed you and didn’t invest anything new.

[bekub]

In a word I WILL DUCK DOCK

[dmitry_den]

He played not badly CIA agent John Glebb in the film "TASS is authorized to declare" during the Soviet era, apparently went into a role from which he still can not get out. The smug smile of the representative of the highest Anglo-Saxon race is higher than the coat of arms of the USSR.
Shevarnadze. Kikabidze, Gamsakhurdia, Saakashvilli plus a galaxy of thieves in law, including Patarkatsishvilli, who bathed in the USSR in abundance of everything and fiercely hate the Soviet past.

[aws4]

for me, this person was like one of the symbols of something of the Soviet state in which I spent my childhood .. already in adulthood I could not attribute it to a nation, it was like over nations and peoples .. such a symbol of the internationalism of a departed state .. and if everything said in this article is true, now he is simply a talented Georgian for me .. Disappointment !!!

[hrych]

Well, of course, Soviet heraldry was worthless. And it must be admitted. In this case, it flatters, because Georgia is a failed statehood. Now territorially exposed, subsidized country, with a non-independent policy, and there was some ambition.

[SRC P-15]

Interestingly, he still wants Larisa Ivanovna?

[hrych]

What kind of Larisa Ivanovna is for him, prostatitis and hemorrhoids are his friends, creative and male impotence

[SRC P-15]

Quote: hrych

What is he Larisa Ivanovna, prostatitis and hemorrhoids are his friends

You forgot about his main girlfriend - impotence. With such friends, this girlfriend is indispensable!

[hrych]

Quote: СРЦ П-15

You forgot about his main girlfriend - impotence.

And I corrected my comment

[SRC P-15]

Quote: hrych

And I corrected my comment

But Kikabidze will not fix anything ...

[Prisoner]

Yes, it seems already that he wants Don Pedro more.

[The black]

Quote: СРЦ П-15

Interestingly, he still wants Larisa Ivanovna?

No, it was arranged by Sarbazan

[Captain Pushkin]

Quote: SRC P-15

Interestingly, he still wants Larisa Ivanovna?

In the old days, they in Tbilisi had such Laris Ivannes as they wanted, on average 25 rubles each at a time. At the same time they despised them from the heart. And there was a reason. But they transferred their contempt to all of Russia, because in their eyes these same Larisa Ivanovna personified all of Russia ..

[tracer]

The essence of the "timid Georgians" is precisely this. Ponte in combination with wild poverty.

[Opera]

Since their incorporation into the Russian Empire, they have been subsidized all their lives. The Georgian nobility tearfully begging to protect them and for quite some time immediately, as they were taken under the wing, they began to weave intrigues based, again, on their false conceit. Georgia, rightly speaking, gave Russia both prominent cultural figures and military leaders, but ... I said that in the USSR they were treated kindly beyond measure. Eyes were closed on their "cultural features" let's say so very special. Who were the representatives of such criminal “professions” by nationality as fraudsters of various types, mostly currency, thieves in law do not need to be explained! And most importantly, in terms of living standards in the USSR, Georgia in the "land of equals" completely undeservedly occupied the absolute 1st place, which certainly added ambition!

[Doliva63]

Quote: hrych

Well, of course, Soviet heraldry was worthless. And it must be admitted. In this case, it flatters, because Georgia is a failed statehood. Now territorially exposed, subsidized country, with a non-independent policy, and there was some ambition.

Normal was heraldry in the Union. In any case, it suited me.

[hrych]

Quote: Doliva63

Normal was heraldry in the Union

Well, completely Masonic, in no way reflecting the thousand-year-old traditions of the people. As she came, she went into oblivion.

[militia2]

For information about what has come and gone. The hammer, as a symbol of protest, is several hundred years old. In 1918, when they were preparing for the May Day demonstration in Moscow, young artists (including S. Gerasimov, then young) tried to draw an emblem symbolizing this holiday. Someone S. Kamzolkin, a merchant's son (then he worked all his life in the theater in Pushkino as a decorator) suggested combining a sickle and a hammer as a symbol of the unity of the peasantry and workers. I liked everything. Then this symbol reached Berlin, and then spread throughout the world, and in China, for example, it is a state symbol.
Now especially for connoisseurs of Freemasonry. The genius of Kamzolkin’s invention lies in the fact that the symbol he invented directly echoes the cross and the crescent moon that overshadows Orthodox churches. And he didn’t leave anywhere and he won’t leave, as if someone didn’t want it. (Yes, the crescent is not a symbol of the brotherhood of the Orthodox and Muslims, but the so-called "swell" - a symbol of the princely power).

[hrych]

Quote: Militia2

And he didn’t leave anywhere and he won’t leave

In the PRC and DPRK, a couple of dozen years later their statehood will be in question. Social states cannot survive even a century. In the Russian Federation, of course, there will be no return to this squalor, and innovative technology has led to the fact that the sickle and hammer have ceased to be applied symbols of villagers and workers. Agricultural holdings now use kambaynes, machine milking machines, etc., factories with CNC machines, etc. If you like, you can wave a sledgehammer at your dacha, the majority of the population, and especially the youth, do not care. Yes, the renaissance of Orthodox symbolism, yes, the renaissance of the two-headed, winged totem, which has been known among the Indo-Aryans since the time of the Hittite kingdom (more than 3 thousand years). Also, the thousand-year-old Russian kingdom that formed the great territory is reflected and closely at the genetic level with its totems. And satanic (Seth) pentograms, Masonic hammers and a sickle, as a hidden symbol of the Old Testament, i.e. circumcision and Egyptian weapons of killing. Kamzolkin, of course, did not know who the creature was, but he checked this identity, turned out to be a freemason, carried away by Egyptian mysticism (Masonic symbolism rushing from there), which affected creativity. Was a member of secret societies And most importantly, Kamzolkin could draw and think up anything, the main thing is that he was accepted as the heraldic symbol of Trotsky (the bed of the Memphis-Mizraim rite) and Lenin (the Belleville Union box of the Great East of France).

[militia2]

The photo you provided is very spectacular. Of course, we can joke that this is how we get to the Martians. But seriously, I can think of Trotsky that he was a freemason (and not only that). But about Lenin, you are in vain. This man possessed mental abilities much higher than some Mason and even higher than all Masons combined. I think that these guys (Masons) simply want to cling to his fame, such as ISIS (forbidden).

[hrych]

Quote: Militia2

But about Lenin, you are in vain. This man possessed mental abilities much higher than some Mason and even higher than all Masons combined.

These are the emotions, the esotericism of the Bolsheviks (atheism for the average man), demanded a superman, if you want a God-man, genius, etc. This small, bald, hunched, with a rare beard figure was chosen for this role. They began to cultivate his brilliant childhood, invented a golden-headed child (which is on the October badges). In addition, a man early survived from the mind. He was buried in a ziggurat (pyramid-tomb) according to all the rules of the Egyptian-Chaldean mystery, embalmed in a mummy, etc. If you pay attention, then Engels, Karla, Lenin, etc. are depicted in profile on posters, bas-reliefs, etc., which corresponds to Egyptian bas-reliefs. and frescoes. Also the blessing gesture of the monuments of Lenin, copies the gestures of the Egyptian gods. Rather, of course, demons with predator heads. Therefore, see the root. But the war of the Egyptians and the Hittites has been going on for 3 thousand years, and continues now.

[militia2]

Honestly, I hardly believe that the war of the Egyptians and the Hittites has been going on for 3 thousand years and is now continuing. But you are on this issue. You are undoubtedly a greater specialist than me.
Just, it seems to me that you’re really impoverishing yourself, if you think that the “small, bald, hunched,” who “early lost his mind” is also only a participant in this war and this explains everything, and only from here you can do then predictions in advance about our future. But I will not argue with you - I can not object to your argument about the similarity of the bas-reliefs of Marx, Engels and Lenin and Egyptian bas-reliefs - this is a fact, they look like, devils are striped!

[tol100v]

Quote: MPN

Or everything climbs out ...

These statements clearly showed what made Kikabidze, not to be confused with Mimino!

[tap]

What can you do, not everyone likes the USSR. And there are, alas, reasons for this. And what, everyone is happy with today's Russia? After another idea of ​​the Government, how many lamentations in the comments ...

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

Quote: zapfen

And the grounds for this, alas, are

voice

[Doliva63]

Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir

Quote: zapfen

And the grounds for this, alas, are

voice

Perhaps I will join the question.

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

but no answer

[your1970]

Quote: zapfen

What can you do, not everyone likes the USSR. And there are, alas, reasons for this.

Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir

Quote: zapfen

And the grounds for this, alas, are

voice

Quote: Doliva63

Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir

Quote: zapfen

And the grounds for this, alas, are

voice

Perhaps I will join the question.

I will answer ...
For example, mismanagement-when "Everything around the people-all around a draw !!".
When gasoline was poured into the ravines at the end of the quarter, the tractors were drowned, in order to get new ones, they started to build and threw halfway, huge money was thrown into nobody’s use, when now (after 27 years !!!!) in the garages you can find SOVIET paint , drills, files ... but anything, including top-secret things ...
Well it was a draw ....
Metalworkers dig metal on the steppes and still wagons they are being taken out of the district — so much was thrown into the fields by collective farmers. How many resources / funds / health were ditched in the USSR — to melt this metal, to make something out of it ..
Yeah, they did, they took them out to the field and threw ..
We traveled with my father in 1982 along the power line in Kazakhstan, once they changed wires on it (my child’s hand is thick), the old three threads were pulled a bit off the line and thrown (and long ago, they have already grown into the ground), 30 km traveled, and they were lying around ... Maybe they still lie, there is a very deaf place ...
My father cursed very much - that how could it be possible to quit such a serious thing, because it was a lot of work and raw materials.

And you just forgot (or didn’t know) - about queues, coupons, a car after five years of waiting. In 1987, my mother decided to buy me Chinese sneakers then, not Kimra sneakers, but Chinese blue ones. To buy them, I had to turn them in Raipo 100 kg butter (my mom picked up a friend from the village), get a coupon for a purchase, sign up for a queue (they brought strictly 7 pairs) and after waiting in line - buy them ...

Can you challenge my words?

[militia2]

But who argues! Not everyone liked of course. I can not give such examples of mismanagement. Only you picked up the unsuccessful word "did not like the USSR." It doesn’t work here. (For example, “Who do you love more, mother or father?” “Who is prettier, your mother or this film artist?” These are so-called incorrect questions). I did not like the flaws that took place then. And many did not like it. That is yes. I agree with that.

[your1970]

Quote: Militia2

Only you picked up the unsuccessful word "did not like the USSR."

Well, actually it NOT ME wrote this formula

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

Quote: your1970

Well it was a draw ....

not an indicator now this is no less if not more

Quote: your1970

Metal workers dig metal on the steppes and still take it out of the region with wagons - so much was thrown into the fields by collective farmers. How many resources / funds / health were ditched in the USSR - to melt this metal, to make something out of it ..

By the way, during the USSR, it was not the homeless people who were engaged in this, and the pioneers collected scrap metal

Quote: your1970

In 1987, my mother decided to buy me Chinese sneakers ...

ohyyy a brechet, excuse me

[your1970]

1)

Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir

not an indicator now this is no less if not more

- show me the ravine where NOW pour gasoline !!!
2)

Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir

By the way, during the USSR, it was not the homeless people who were engaged in this, and the pioneers collected scrap metal

- collected - after which this scrap metal was transported to the nearest ravine, from where the current metalworkers dig it, and yes they are not homeless at all - because they dig at least one ton of infection at a time
3)

Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir

ohyyy a brechet, excuse me

-if you lived in Moscow and could shop in the "100" GUM - then yes, you naturally didn’t see this. In 1987, it was quite common with us ..
Then I went to Shipovo in Kazakhstan - I bought several books of Dumas there (for some reason Dumas were there so many - how many “Materials of the 25 / 26 Congress of the CPSU”, Bulgakov I could buy 2 all over there). I took them to Moscow and changed them for tickets for Space, Kuzmina, to the Taganka Theater at a friend's cashier
Z.Y. or you

Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir

ohyyy a brechet, excuse me

judge by yourself ??? !!

[reservist]

Quote: zapfen

What can you do, not everyone likes the USSR.

only not then everyone remembers with a kind word ...

[Starover_Z]

A bright follower of Mihai Volontira! Tom also did not like the Soviet Union before the collapse, on the waves of dancing of national sovereignty! This one wants to finish the same way, almost in obscurity?

[cost]

It should be noted that for the majority of Russians, Kikabidze is not associated with today's statements, but with his roles in Soviet cinema.

How many roles did he have?
Kikabidze is the soloist and face of the Orero ensemble popular in the USSR

[Mwg]

Films "Do not Cry", "Mimino". The rest is just songs

[your1970]

Quote: MVG

Films "Do not Cry", "Mimino". The rest is just songs

Well, let’s put the films:
1966 - Mountain Meeting - Gia
1969 - Do not Cry! - Benjamin Glonti
1971 - Hatabala - Kinto
1972 - I, the investigator - George Mikeladze
1973 - Absolutely Missing - Duke
1974 - Ringtones of Veria quarter - cab driver Pavel
1976 - Missing Expedition - Commissioner
1977 - Stone of Pure Water
1977 - Alias: Lukac - Durutti
1977 - Mimino - Valiko Mizandari, aka “Mimino”
1980 - Dumas in the Caucasus - Arkapos
1981 - Be well, dear
1982 - Three slap-blows - Nikala
1983 - Morning without marks - spy from the sleep of Gleb
1984 - TASS is authorized to declare ... - John Glebb
1984 - Olga and Konstantin - Konstantin Goguadze
1985 - Men and everyone else

[Mwg]

I bow my head, take off my hat. Be sure to review everything.

[Kent0001]

Thanks to the USSR, this (a being, I will not name it in another way) meant something. And without the USSR, perhaps the streets would be chalk.

[Dikson]

and the elephant is thicker ..

[gm9019]

Quote: sso-250659

How many wolves do not feed

.. and he spits everything in the well!

[Vladimir Ter-Odiyants]

Quote: MPN

Senility?

For the time being, a hidden enemy for a while.

Quote: MPN

Ponte above honor ..

But the Country, under this Coat of Arms brought to this individual Everything!

[sgazeev]

Quote: MPN

Senility? Or everything climbs out ...? Ponte above honor ...

Offended no one buys it booze.

[Albert1988]

Quote: MPN

Senility? Or everything climbs out ...? Ponte above honor ...

I would like to quote the immortal Soviet classics:
"as our dear chef says - if a person has come from, then it will be a long time!"
Nothing more to add!

[Vanek]

Quote: MPN

Senility?

He is.

[max702]

Kikabidze is the embodiment of a fundamental mistake by the leadership of the USSR .. Feeding wild, mediocre suburbs is not only useless but also catastrophically harmful .. This ruined a great country ..

[notingem]

Keep the change. Dude

[alatanas]

The interview is not free, I propose. Who pays - he orders the music.

[novel66]

Yes, no ... anti-Soviet leaders with a Soviet past - a dime a dozen, just put a microphone - they will pour onto the secondary product. no need to pay

[Gardamir]

And Cho, Who cares who hates the USSR. Here in the VO a lot of visitors proud of their hatred of everything Soviet

[Alexander Romanov]

Quote: Gardamir

Here in the VO a lot of visitors proud of their hatred of everything Soviet

There are much more who hate Russia, the flag of Russia, called Vlasov rags and more. And most of them are those who love the USSR very much.
I can understand Kikabidze, but you are not!

[hhhhhhh]

What is Kikabidze’s understanding? The fact that the republics thought how they feed Moscow, but it turned out the other way around, and the republics are quietly dying while consuming Russian gas and electricity.
USSR power.

[Alexander Romanov]

Quote: hhhhhhh

What is Kikabidze’s understanding?

He is Russophobe to the bone marrow and there’s no point in waiting for another from him

Quote: hhhhhhh

USSR power.

Well, where is your strength?

[hhhhhhh]

The USSR will return. Or are you for an Islamic project?

[Alexander Romanov]

Quote: hhhhhhh

The USSR will return.

The communists will not return, but Russia will

[For example]

Quote: hhhhhhh

The USSR will return. Or are you for an Islamic project?

Famously wrapped up
The communists ruined our country. Huge territories were torn from our country. Millions of people destroyed. Millions of people eventually live outside the homeland.
The USSR will not return. The communists did no less harm to Russia than the Nazis. Both the Russian people won. But the losses are huge.
Madmen, enough revolutions. Live peacefully for God's sake!

[hhhhhhh]

Are you for the power of the oligarchs, are you for a beggarly life?

[Alexander Romanov]

Quote: For example

Famously wrapped up

He writes to the village fool. Who is normal will lead to such crap.

[hhhhhhh]

Why did the people support the Bolsheviks in 1917, no one thought?

[prapor55]

Did he tell you that he supported or didn’t support the Civil War?

[hhhhhhh]

Different Chubais and Co. did not support. Who won the Civil War? Why? At the same time, the interventionists were expelled from the country.
Before the age of 17, how many were literate? Why are you literate today?

[militia2]

And it was civil, and the Great Patriotic War was. There is no reason to say that the people did not support it. Here were a lot of mistakes - yes. If you argue with your back mind, then of course, the Communists are to blame for the fact that they could not accumulate so much good that everyone today would become millionaires. And if you take a closer look, then do not be them, there is hardly anything left of the Russian people after all who want to rob.

[Doliva63]

Quote: For example

Quote: hhhhhhh

The USSR will return. Or are you for an Islamic project?

Famously wrapped up
The communists ruined our country. Huge territories were torn from our country. Millions of people destroyed. Millions of people eventually live outside the homeland.
The USSR will not return. The communists did no less harm to Russia than the Nazis. Both the Russian people won. But the losses are huge.
Madmen, enough revolutions. Live peacefully for God's sake!

Confessing delirium, you live in delirium.

[hhhhhhh]

The abolition of pensions and the price of gasoline is not nonsense, but a fact.
The Bolsheviks gave retirement. There are no Bolsheviks and no pensions.

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

Quote: For example

The communists ruined our country. Huge territories were torn from our country.

you really think drunk Communist? !!

[prapor55]

Excuse me, who was he in those days, maybe I don’t know something?

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

Quote: prapor55

I'm sorry who he was in those days

Mushrooms Look for the same in the Komsomol consisted, and pale with a scythe and many similar ones, be listed and be not the same thing

[Opera]

Amazing logic! The faithful Leninists did the revolution like that? But then all the faithful Leninists turned out to be enemies of the people! So? Then the leader of the people who branded and shot the spies and enemies of the faithful Leninists himself was suddenly debunked and taken out of the mausoleum and, as part of the personality cult, his policy was branded and his associates partially shot too! A lover of corn, as you know, was also overthrown and now Zyuganov calls him ... of course a traitor !!!!! And the time of stagnation began ... And then all the same Communists came to power but again turned out to be traitors !!! And now comrade Vasilenko tells us that a drunkard cannot be a communist ... But can it be a traitor? I have a simple question, why did the entire communist elite for the other communist elite all the time turn out to be traitors, including those communists who stigmatized them after a while, too, became such ?! Who ruled the country for 70 years and who ruined it as a result, if it turns out that in addition to traitors and enemies in power over the years there was no one?!?!

[hhhhhhh]

the Communists did not return, but the Bolsheviks yes))))

[Opera]

Probably from Germany and the USA ?! How are their predecessors ?!

[Gardamir]

hates Russia

How beautiful it is. Do not confuse the representative of the oligarchs with the country. Russia has always been, and presidents come and go.

[Alexander Romanov]

Quote: Gardamir

. Do not confuse the representative of the oligarchs with the country.

For you, I look at a country, it’s just a country, but for me people. 76% of the percent that voted for Putin write down the enemies.

[Gardamir]

For you, I look at a country, it's just a country, but for me people

Or maybe vice versa, since you support the power that strips people. Are you for raising the retirement age? Then where are you for the people?

[Alexander Romanov]

Quote: Gardamir

. Are you for raising the retirement age?

I'm against! But I am also against the fact that the power would be changed by your methods. You only need to change the power, and who comes in their place, where they will lead the country to you on the drum. No time to think to see

[Gardamir]

You only need to change the power, and who comes in their place, where they will lead the country to you on the drum

Well why bother if there is no ability to do this. I can say for sure, I am against Navalny, against Sobchak, against the State Department, and therefore against the supporter of liberalism and a lover of European values.

[Alexander Romanov]

Quote: Gardamir

. I can say for sure, I am against Navalny, against Sobchak

In this case, do now what none of the opponents of the government have done in recent days. Tell me, who, instead of Putin, will be able to work better as president. And argue why, he will work better

[Gardamir]

Tell me, who, instead of Putin, will be able to work as president better.

Several former Putin guards work as governors. So if tomorrow, Putin will say, I'm tired, I'm leaving, then there is some Volodin, for whom the next 70% will vote

[Alexander Romanov]

Quote: Gardamir

Several former Putin guards work as governors

That is, you have no answer, but the main thing is to change the government. And then we will scratch our turnips, how is it in Ukraine?
No, thanks.

[Gardamir]

So you don’t have an answer,

I do not want to substitute a person, let him rest in the Razliv. Again, theses are not all appended.

[bk316]

Russia has always been

exactly the Bolsheviks come and go, like EP and so on.
For you, the CPSU is for centuries, but it is no longer ...

[common man]

Quote: Alexander Romanov

Kikabidze, I can understand

And here is the main hating USSR drawn.

Quote: Alexander Romanov

There are many more who hate Russia

I beg you not to confuse RUSSIA and its liberal government.

[bk316]

I beg you not to confuse RUSSIA and its liberal government

I ask you not to confuse the USSR and the Central Committee of the CPSU even more.

[common man]

I totally agree.

[Opera]

Such cool guys are these lovers of the return of the USSR! I’ve sworn to argue with you, but you insist!)))) "Please do not confuse the USSR and the Central Committee of the CPSU, how is it? And I also like it most when admirers of the communist ideology say that the USSR has collapsed enemies ... all the Central Committee of the CPSU, all members of the Politburo, the entire top elite who led the Union republics in general, the entire Communist Party apparatus, and also the Komsomol ... I’m embarrassed to ask were enemies ?! Is that so?

[bk316]

I ask you not to confuse the USSR and the Central Committee of the CPSU. How is this?

Igor Are you me or Andrew?
If to me, then I meant that:
Russia and the "liberal government" are correlated in exactly the same way as the USSR and the Central Committee of the CPSU.
If a person separates the Russian Federation and the government, then he must separate both the USSR and the Central Committee, and if for someone the country and power are inseparable, then in both cases.

[Opera]

I am both of you! Such a statement of the question is not true in the root! There may be people in power who you don’t like, may be the other way around or in part. Members of the government are approved by the president, who is elected by the majority of voters! Why should I share something? In the USSR, there were only communists in power! If you know that in general it was impossible to occupy a serious position in a little bit without joining the party! Communist ideology permeated everything from the Politburo to the kindergarten! There were no other parties and ideological platforms at all! The Union was deliberately destroyed by the Communists in power, including in the Union republics. Did you believe in building communism if you were at a conscious age at that time ?! Yes, adherents of leftist ideas and now do not even talk about it at all! And by that time, ordinary people were completely sorry for Marxism-Leninism. There was nothing! Yes, and the Communists in power ideological was not observed! Who were the people to follow and what to defend ?! Such as Kikabidze is an absolutely natural product of the system! Next to it you can write well-known names all over again and again ...

[militia2]

You probably consider all those who call themselves so to be Communists. This generalization is incorrect. Without delving, I note, the "Communists" ended after Stalin. Second, you are putting everything on the Communists. This is only partly true. For example, Stalin and the Communists (power) are responsible for both 1941 and 1945. But the Communists can’t be responsible for Gorbachev and Yeltsin, since they weren’t already at that moment.

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

Quote: Oper

The Politburo, the entire party elite leading the Union republics in general, the entire Communist Party apparatus, and also the Komsomol ... I’m embarrassed to ask were enemies ?! How is this so?

who ruined RI ?!

[Opera]

In the Russian Empire, by that time there was a multi-party system. Unlike the USSR! If you do not know about this, I will answer you simply adherents of liberalism and Bolshevism! Then usually they start shooting at each other!

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

Quote: Oper

In the Russian Empire, by that time there was a multi-party system.

I understand that with a knowledge of history you are full of ruts, the question was about another

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

Quote: Alexander Romanov

Kikabidze I can understand

and explain to us?

[Alexander Romanov]

Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir

and explain to us?

Read above

[kakvastam]

Do not confuse Russia and the young country of the Russian Federation.
The USSR was just the successor of the Russian Empire and was proud of its thousand-year history, and the young country - it is still not even thirty, the current prime minister said that he would not lie!
But I did not meet something that hated Russia and loved the USSR, bitterness and anger of statements were more often associated precisely with insult for the beloved Motherland, and it was aimed not at the country, but at its current leadership.

[Opera]

The USSR was the legal successor and admirer of the history of the Russian Empire and Russia?!?! Lord, that you just can’t read it at night looking ... This is why we will destroy the whole old world of violence to the point to become its legal successor ?! Have you forgotten about the stranglers of freedom and the prison of nations? About Great Russian chauvinists? About the rout of the Orthodox Church, which constitutes the foundation of 1000 years of history? Is that such pride?!?!?! However!

[kakvastam]

Well, you just can’t help but twitch!
"Successor" and "successor" are completely different concepts.
Both the International will be much older and the world of violence does not indicate Russia at all.
And you can be an heir and be proud of the achievements of your ancestors in different ways. Of course, in the initial period, denial prevailed, so this is typical for any shift, adolescents always strive to deny something, and no one has canceled fools.
And there was a place of oppression of the church to declare it a rout - this is a fair amount of fantasy is required. Especially when you consider that the Communists many of Christ's covenants "copied" outright.

[militia2]

Here let me clarify. Your opinion (and Mr. Putin’s opinion) that the Communists "copied a lot" from Christ is inaccurate. The form - yes, but the content is fundamentally different - the Communists assumed that it is possible to build a paradise on earth, Christ denied this. This is a very important difference.

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

Quote: Oper

The USSR was the legal successor and admirer of the history of the Russian Empire and Russia?!?!

you fell off the moon ?!
look at the cover carefully

History of the USSR
LEARNING BOOK FOR 4TH CLASS
*** 1961 ***
CONTENTS

Introduction 3
Ancient Russia
1. How the ancient Slavs lived 6
2. The Old Russian State 9
3. In ancient Kiev 11
4. The fragmentation of Russia 14
5. The invasion of the Mongol-Tatar invaders 15
6. The defeat of the Swedish and German invaders 17

The formation and expansion of the Russian state
7. The beginning of the unification of Russian lands around Moscow 20
8. The Battle of Kulikovo 23
9. The formation of the Russian state 24
10. The king and the nobles 26
11. The enslavement of peasants 28
12. The fight against the Polish invaders 32
13. The reunification of Ukraine with Russia 35
14. Siberia in the 16th-17th centuries 37
15. The uprising of peasants and Cossacks led by Stepan Razin 39

Russia in the 18th and first half of the 19th century
16. The struggle for access to the Baltic Sea 42
17. Poltava battle 46
18. The great Russian scientist M.V. Lomonosov 49
19. Fortress village in the 18th century 52
20. The uprising of peasants and Cossacks led by Emelyan Pugachev 54

21. The expansion of Russia at the end of the 18th century 56
22. The peoples of the Caucasus and their accession to Russia. . 58
23. The Patriotic War of 1812 61
24. The defeat of the French conquerors 62
25. Decembrists 64
26. Fighters for the freedom of the people 67

Capitalism in Russia
27. The fall of serfdom 70
28. In a capitalist factory 73
29. Morozov strike 76
30. Vladimir Ilyich Lenin 78
31. The creation of the party of communists 81
32. Bloody Sunday 83
33. The first Russian revolution 85
34. The life of the peoples of Russia under tsarist rule 88
35. World War I 89
36. The people overthrow the king 91
...

[Opera]

And besides Soviet textbooks, have you read anything ?! So, what can you answer close to the text to point 1 according to the textbook, how did the ancient Slavs live?))) In addition to the uprisings and the party of the Bolsheviks with Lenin and of course the liberal Decembrists, was there anything great ?! According to your Soviet textbooks, absolutely nothing is poverty, dirt, oppression, barbarism! Of course, it’s impossible to teach and justify the coup of 1917 and the terrible terror of various kinds of left against statesmen of different levels, starting with the police! How to justify the Brest peace with billions of indemnities, some of which Lenin and Trotsky quickly paid to the power, which capitulated to Russia’s allies in half a year?!?! No need to show me textbooks that say such nonsense - Russia lost the war in Germany, which immediately lost the war to the allies of Russia! Who are you laughing at ?! The successors and receivers are laughing at themselves! Like to believe in such nonsense, believe!

[kakvastam]

Learn to think in a systematic way, over time this will save you from the tendency to throw slogans, label and attribute to others thoughts that are the result of your imagination.
And, as a Russian, respect at least a little Russian grammar.

[militia2]

If you really ask questions not to yourself, but want to hear someone else and to understand whether it is worth continuing the conversation, tell me how you feel about A.S. Pushkin, how do you assess him, who is he for you?

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

Quote: Oper

And besides Soviet textbooks, have you read anything ?!

read and a lot

Quote: Oper

According to your Soviet textbooks, absolutely nothing is poverty, dirt, oppression, barbarism!

Excuse me, did you study in the USSR? if so then apparently the lessons of history skipped specifically

Quote: Oper

How to justify the Brest peace with billions of indemnities, some of which Lenin and Trotsky quickly paid to the power, which capitulated to Russia’s allies in half a year?!?!

Well, yes, it’s easier to justify the Bialowieza agreements, we will compare financial and territorial losses when signing these agreements ?!

Quote: Oper

Do not show me textbooks that say such nonsense-Russia lost the German war

Vaps does not make it difficult to quote from the textbook ?!

[Aaron Zawi]

Why does VO need to discuss the interview given by 80 by a Georgian German newspaper? I’m not saying that for most Germans he is an unknown figure, but even on the Russian-speaking Internet this message would not have appeared, no one would have remembered the old artist.

[Gardamir]

Why

Well, not raising the same retirement age to discuss. So, if you look at someone, patriotism will leap up, they will start shouting, “Better to raise the retirement age than to endure Kikabidzev”

[Fungus]

Raise age discuss on other resources. Tired of crying already.

[Stas157]

Quote: Fungus

Raise age discuss on other resources. Tired of crying already.

Are you a moderator? Or do you like to indicate? People write and discuss what is interesting to them, and the topic of pension is now the most relevant in the country, and was mentioned in connection with the topic of Kikabidze. If you are not interested here, then go yourself to other resources, and do not point to others.

[bk316]

Are you a moderator? Or do you like to indicate?

Flood is prohibited by the rules of the site. If you need to be a moderator to indicate the rules of the site, then to criticize the government you must be the president.
Or are you Stas champion of double standards?

[Tatanka Yotanka]

Quote: bk316

If you need to be a moderator to indicate the rules of the site, then to criticize the government you must be the president.

correction

Quote: Stas157

Are you a moderator?

it was a question

Quote: Fungus

Raise age discuss on other resources

and this statement
so the question is logical, based on the number of comments in such topics, moderators follow the aspirations of the people, which cannot be said about the government

[Stas157]

Quote: bk316

Flood is prohibited by the rules of the site. If you need to be a moderator to indicate the rules of the site, then to criticize the government you must be the president.
Or are you Stas champion of double standards?

So after all, the same claims can now be made to you! If you forbid me to make comments to people, then why are you making them to me?
You still, dear man, answer, what do you propose to do with the boors, if they can’t put it in sight? Purely Christian, turn your second cheek?

[inkass_98]

There is no prosperity without publicity ©
Ilf and Petrov also wrote about this.
Most people have already forgotten about its existence, if it had died - no one would have known about it.
I can understand kamikaze, a person has earned money in a feasible way, but the author’s author’s not.

[faridg7]

Well, regarding the need to discuss the interview at VO I agree, I didn’t understand what it was for.
And about the majority of Germans and memories on the Russian-speaking Internet ...
In Germany, quite a lot of our deserters now live, the German press works on these minds as well. And the memoirs — I only looked at Mimino with pleasure three nights ago, well, what the article in the German newspaper does not fall on this image does not stick to. But now I can’t listen to Makara;

[prapor55]

The Jew listened silently and thought, said a definite plus !!!

[militia2]

Dear Aron! Yes, just somehow humanly unpleasant. You think well of a man, but he turns out to be some kind of bend.
Here we have a massive directive rejuvenation. I became younger suddenly, until retirement I still have to plow. In general, he rejuvenated, in the joys of such, drank a bottle of good red wine, so gout was played out, he did not go to the cottage. What to do, read the "History" of a certain Herodotus. So this Herodod says that in a person’s assessment it means a lot how exactly he will end his days. And just the same, this Kikabizde didn’t say it, but the devil carried it.
And on the other hand, well, he would praise and cry about the USSR. Would it be published in Germany? No, I think. Maybe there is not enough money for medicines? Hell knows.

[Opera]

Well, you can talk about this topic indefinitely !!!))))) And from the Georgians caressed by the Soviet regime and the popular Soviet actor kissed in a soft place and again, please note from the national suburbs so to speak ...)) This is not something you Petya Palkin is a harmonist from the village club Kukueva! Kikabidze is the pride of Soviet culture and a vivid example of a new person! Although in the RSFSR, of course, there were also quite a lot of very inveterate and, as it turned out, terribly affected cultural workers - at least remember the woman who sings, at least Makarevich is not afraid of this terrible word!

[bukhash]

As an actor, he was good, he sang soulful songs, but as a person, who knows him? Judging by various interviews and other statements, his mind does not shine. Old age is not joy, God bless him.

[common man]

Quote: Bukhash

As an actor he was good, he sang soulful songs, but as a person, who knows?

It often seems that actors are better at voicing other people's thoughts (roles) than expressing their own.

[Sands Careers General]

he hates the emblem of the USSR

Most of the former citizens of the Soviet Union do not give a damn about the old senile. So he freaks out.
Do not pay attention to these churkistan - they will not forgive us for this

[Altona]

Quote: hrych

Well, of course, Soviet heraldry was worthless.

--------------------------
Why then is she so popular now? Especially T-shirts and sweatshirts with the emblem of the USSR. Maybe it’s not all about heraldry as such, but how to beat it, to win it lucratively? More recently, there was an article that Adidas periodically produces clothes and shoes with the symbols of the USSR.

[Altona]

Quote: Alexander Romanov

I can understand Kikabidze, but you are not!

---------------------------
Of course, you can understand Kikabidze. Because the level of its development and adequacy is similar to your White Guard.

[Alexander Romanov]

Quote: Altona

Because the level of its development and adequacy is similar to your White Guard.

Sharikov, do not write to me anymore. I write again, trusting in higher powers, since your level of adequacy does not reach even such damage as Kikabidze

[Fedoslov]

I have long noticed that a significant number of great Soviet actors, directors, singers, so beloved in Russia and not only, turned out to be temporary workers. It turned out that they did not care about culture, people in the 90s, when they supported Yeltsin. Unprincipled personalities.
Maybe it’s right that they were limited in their freedom of action in Soviet times? Now there is complete freedom, but there is no sense. Not culture, but trash.

[Sharikov Polygraph Poligrafovich]

The anti-adviser is always RUSOFOB !!!
This is an axiom and DO NOT change this ...

[Private SA]

corrupt, old pa * al!

[Radical]

Quote: faridg7

Well, regarding the need to discuss the interview at VO I agree, I didn’t understand what it was for.
And about the majority of Germans and memories on the Russian-speaking Internet ...
In Germany, quite a lot of our deserters now live, the German press works on these minds as well. And the memoirs — I only looked at Mimino with pleasure three nights ago, well, what the article in the German newspaper does not fall on this image does not stick to. But now I can’t listen to Makara;

By the way, the film itself with a nationalist darling, if anyone noticed ...

[camo]

looking at this, I remember a song about the old man Kozlodoev from the Assa movie
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nPp
zJYZLj1o

[HAM]

Kikabidze, Makarevich, Akhedzhakova, M. Efremov .......
What is this !? Senile incontinence, or already raging with fat?
The older, the stronger verbal diarrhea, "creative intelligentsia" ....

[Doliva63]

Quote: HAM

Kikabidze, Makarevich, Akhedzhakova, M. Efremov .......
What is this !? Senile incontinence, or already raging with fat?
The older, the stronger verbal diarrhea, "creative intelligentsia" ....

And I still remember Andreev, Smirnov, Bernes and many others. What is Kikabidze there? Buffoon and soap bubble. The same Smirnov - 2 Orders of Glory, this is Man! Or Etush, for example, an intellectual to the marrow of bones. I once told on TV how I got a bullet in my buttock when I went to reconnaissance. One can be proud of the Soviet intelligentsia! And this one is an adherent scoundrel.

[Lexeus]

The actor found one role on what PR)))

[faterdom]

We ourselves have made up idols for ourselves. What are his "acting work"? Mimino? "I want Larisa Ivanovna"? So Frunzik Mkrtchan in this tape is no worse, even more colorful. In general, the entire popularity of this movie is based on the good attitude of the entire USSR to the somewhat eccentric, but sweet compatriots from the Transcaucasus. But it turned out that there, Georgian nationalist fascists grew up under the Fuhrer Z. Gamsakhurdia, the son of a Soviet writer, kindly hated by the Soviet regime. Which, incidentally, in the epilogue of his pseudo-historical works never forgot to bring up an actual refrain about the common destiny of the Georgian and Russian peoples.
What else about Kikakbidze? Vocal-instrumental ensemble "Orero"? Does anyone remember? But it was published in sickly circulations of records! Only here, "Leysya song" or there, "Gems" in the stores were not free (not to mention the "Abba" or "The Beatles"), and the "Orera" - in bulk everywhere.
What else? The general impression, gray hair, beard, manners and parties with the artistic elite in the 90s? And all this gives the right to consider such "outstanding actors of our time"?
Gentlemen, comrades, haven’t we spoiled them, all these Makarevich-Akhedzhakov-Kikabidze? When do we agree with this flattery that they are "outstanding" and even replicate it? And now the new generation, the alcohol-dependent Efremov is unbearably ashamed "for the Crimea", and he is ready to "give the bridge to Ukraine"! Donor, damn it. Let him build on his own, and then give ...

[polpot]

An elderly man is not very smart, he didn’t differ in intelligence even in his youth, and now even more so, he doesn’t cause disgust under the USSR either

[Slon_on]

Interestingly, the zirconium bracelet did not offer to buy? And what side is he to "Military Review"?

[alekc75]

rotten gut appeared

[Stas157]

Kikabidze actually declared support for Georgian aggression against South Ossetia in 2008

Uncle double standards, he rejoices when Russia broke up (as a form of the USSR), but for some reason against the same process in Georgia.

[Nikolay Fedorov]

He sang such a wonderful song with such wonderful words, “My years are my wealth,” but I have not gained wisdom over the years. What wisdom is there! Just mind and elementary decency - and there are none. Otherwise, I would have known that a self-respecting man would not publicly scold his homeland, wife and mother. This is the lot of low and weak people.

[james]

Sick stuff.

[sxfRipper]

Interest in him has long disappeared, so Buba is puffing up as best he can.
It is a pity ... Both the singer and the artist - he was very good!

[komradbuh]

Do not take milk from a goat

[Romanenko]

I think he is not fake.
He speaks from the heart, but alas, not from reason.
Yes, and where to get it?
He himself spoke many times about his mental abilities, he was expelled from school several times for total academic failure, he categorically did not want to study, and was not given.
His ability to sing saved his life, ended up in the Orero national ensemble, and then by itself, somehow ended up in cinema without any education, even without graduating from high school.
Having become a star in a fairly short time, having made the journey from real dirt to riches, he naturally starred and, like all the stars in the USSR, probably did not sleep at night, he wanted to live "like theirs" ....
Therefore, there is nothing surprising in the appearance of such characters as Buba, Makar, Akhedzhakova and others like them.
Loved by the Soviet regime, gluttonous against the background of not very satisfying life of the rest, they are worse than enemies, because millions loved them.
And they decided that as a result, they all could not care less about their faces.
Probably this trouble of many of our stars.
Copper pipes are not for everyone.

[TsUS-Air Force]

I don’t like him since childhood !!!

[filalex79]

Over time, everything secret becomes apparent! A typical representative of the "intelligentsia"!

[New Year day]

- Well, what can I say about this?
- Another bastard.

[intuzazist]

I haven’t watched miminos for a long time! Because of this creature ..........

[Swed]

Vakhtang Kikabidze is dead, but I don’t know this.

[midshipman]

What tens of millions love and respect this moron? He is disgusting and disgusting to many .. I attribute this to scientists and specialists of defense industry enterprises.

[Nikolay Fedorov]

Such an option is also possible - Kikabidze is simply a soft, supple person. Gives an interview to Russophobia Ms. Nemtsova - gives here is such an interview, which we are discussing here. I would give an interview to Gennady Dubovoy - I would sing in a different way. He is an artist ...

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

Quote: Nikolai Fedorov

I would give an interview to Gennady Dubovoy - I would sing in a different way. He is an artist ...

https://inosmi.ru/sngbaltia/20150320/226987584.ht
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[Grandfather Makhno]

A piece of Georgian sheep droppings

[earloop]

In short: who needs it in FIG, except for shaving.

[Imobile]

And if a person so hated the USSR and everything Soviet, then how did he allow himself

In the Soviet Union, everyone hated the Soviet Union because of the huge lag behind the level of Western life and from "hopelessness, when everyone was sure that things would get worse, I remember that very well. And nothing, they silently went to work.

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

Quote: Imobile

In the Soviet Union everyone hated the Soviet

and where did you read that? !!!!

[Imobile]

Son, I don’t have to read, I lived there

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

and I slept in your there ?!
so that it is not necessary to talk about hatred to those who were born in the USSR, but they were like you ..., they joined the Komsomol in the Party, and in their hearts

[Imobile]

There were none. The division of the people was by "nomenclature" and all the rest. I have a very good memory. I remember empty shelves, barracks.

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

Quote: Imobile

I remember empty shelves, barracks.

oh enough about empty shelves, stupid things about vinegar in three liter jars already tired

[Imobile]

I'm talking about Russia, but in Ukraine it was all heaps, apparently in the other republics too

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

Quote: Imobile

I'm talking about Russia

in the RSFSR, the same thing did not swell with hunger, and Muscovites were so borzoi

[Fayter2017]

Well, why empty, my mother worked in a supermarket in Kiev, I remember phantom, pepsikola and Georgian adjika, doctor's sausage and blue chickens, in 1991 I got to Moscow as on another planet, if there was such an abundance in Kiev and other capital cities of the republics, or at least in regional centers, it may be that the Union did not fall apart.

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

Quote: Fayter2017

doctor's sausage

Well, the doctor’s meat is much worse than soy chemistry

Quote: Fayter2017

blue chickens

just the hens were normal and not on anabolic steroids

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

Quote: Imobile

There were none.

Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir

In the Soviet Union everyone hated the Soviet

either remove the kreatsit, or cover yourself with a gang

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

Quote: Imobile

I remember empty shelves, barracks.

[Halkalak]

Where is it filmed? And where did it go after the shoot? This is an explicit statement

[sxfRipper]

They entered the Komsomol almost by obligation, but they didn’t join the party, tried to enter. For the sake of a future career possible. And you thought - for the sake of high ideals?

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

Quote: sxfRipper

Joined the Komsomol almost by obligation

nothing like that, it was quite possible not to enter, and if he hated the country so much, then it’s not at all clear why

[sxfRipper]

I was born in 1957 and remember well how we were "accepted" to school in the Komsomol. And what problems did the guys have without a crust when entering the institute.
What does the hatred in the country have to do with it? Take care of nerves ...

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

Quote: sxfRipper

And what problems did the guys have without a crust when entering the institute.

for example what ?! in which particular university?

Quote: sxfRipper

What does the hatred in the country have to do with it? Take care of nerves ...

if you consider the regime a criminal party vile, but you join it to receive preferences, then you are much worse than this criminal regime

[Imobile]

I confirm that at work it was impossible to become a boss too.

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

Quote: sxfRipper

And you thought - for the sake of high ideals?

Yes, I thought, well, in any case, father taught

[sxfRipper]

I don’t know who your father was. And in what environment and at what time you yourself grew. But it looks like you managed to avoid the Ear-Eye disease. Condolences ...

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

Quote: sxfRipper

I don't know who your father was

programmer

Quote: sxfRipper

Condolences ...

Are you sorry that I was brought up to act in good conscience ?!
then you need to sympathize with it

Quote: sxfRipper

And in what environment and at what time you yourself grew.

mother and father are engineers, was born in 1972 in Alma-Ata, studied at the school

[Doliva63]

Quote: Imobile

And if a person so hated the USSR and everything Soviet, then how did he allow himself

In the Soviet Union, everyone hated the Soviet Union because of the huge lag behind the level of Western life and from "hopelessness, when everyone was sure that things would get worse, I remember that very well. And nothing, they silently went to work.

Brad.

[militia2]

I, too, like you, lived in the USSR. I can say that far from "everyone hated the Soviet." And at least the people “hated” much less than they now “hate” the very Soviet one. But the number of people who "hates" today's ugliness is much greater.

[Rav Rav]

It’s like in the famous cartoon, “They go crazy one by one, but not all together,” but here everything is the other way around after 80, one of them didn’t cope with the youth, the other moved with a little mind, we look forward to continuing

[tasha]

Dear VO readers! Our favorite site has an acute shortage of materials ... Who can, help!
Well, some readers need a reason .. And away we go ...

[Vlad Petrov]

Now, when he saw Mimino what blooming carefree Georgia had turned into, it became clear to Vakhtang that Russia was to blame. It turned out that you have to pay for gas and light. That the Ossetians of the Abkhazians do not want the nationalism of the Georgians and sent them farther and the Georgians come on to kill NATO. Here are the metamorphoses in the heads of the Vakhtangs. What is there to be surprised at all these ex brothers

[Angina]

That he, that Zhanna Nemtsova stand each other - forgive me. Why are we starting to write comments from this info feed? Is the news in the world over? I sincerely hope that God's punishment will punish daughter as "her daddy’s heroic". And Mimino, except for pensioners of the USSR, didn’t give up to anyone.

[K-50]

Chesslovo, some of them are not grateful. Thanks to the USSR and its cinema, they became loved and popular as artists. The Union did not become and now they are shouting at distillations, as they hate the USSR and everything Soviet. Take the same Kasparov (chess player), Volontira (an artist from Moldova, a gypsy played), here Kikabidze noted, another poet was from Uzbekistan / Tajikistan (I don’t remember exactly, but she lives now, by the way in Moscow) and many others.
It's just that people on a campaign have neither shame nor conscience, not to mention elementary human gratitude.
All these normal human qualities are not about them. So, are we allowed, their viewers and fans, to call them people after that?

[Imobile]

I personally do not understand you. How is one related to the other? The fact that they were born in the USSR does not oblige to anything. Under normal conditions, the best achieve more. They achieved contrary, not thanks.

[K-50]

Quote: Imobile

I personally do not understand you.

And I am you.
People were born in the USSR, learned / grew up, took place as professionals in a certain field, and now they hate it all.
I do not understand and do not accept.

[Imobile]

Let's take an example. I don’t know about artists, but I know a lot about my mother. She really wanted to be a doctor. No one was allowed out of the village, she was forbidden to go to high school so that she wouldn’t enter and leave the village. In 56, when the country was no longer hungry, all grain on the collective farm was taken away, condemning people to death, birch branches and spruce were ground. I don’t know what the story of these artists is, but I think it’s similar. And you think that they should be grateful ???

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

Quote: Imobile

I don’t know about artists, but I know a lot about my mother. She really wanted to be a doctor. Nobody was allowed out of the village, she was forbidden to go to high school so that she wouldn’t enter and leave the village.

that is, it’s not a state policy and a fool of local

[Doliva63]

Quote: Imobile

Let's take an example. I don’t know about artists, but I know a lot about my mother. She really wanted to be a doctor. No one was allowed out of the village, she was forbidden to go to high school so that she wouldn’t enter and leave the village. In 56, when the country was no longer hungry, all grain on the collective farm was taken away, condemning people to death, birch branches and spruce were ground. I don’t know what the story of these artists is, but I think it’s similar. And you think that they should be grateful ???

Let's take an example.
My mother from a family of repressed kulaks, she says, was really crap. She was taken out of the village, educated, instilled a love for the theater, given the opportunity to see half the Union — she is very grateful to the Soviet authorities!

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

Quote: Doliva63

My mother from a family of repressed kulaks, she says, was really crap.

my grandmother, from the nobles, the daughter of the red commander of the repressed in the 30s, the wife of the exiled, worked as chief accountant at one of the largest enterprises of the light industry of the Kazakh SSR, not a single bad word about the USSR

[Imobile]

This is necessary, no one canceled Morozov. I will tear the British flag for my children and parents.

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

Quote: Imobile

This is necessary, no one canceled Morozov.

when you defend the war you will insult someone

[Halkalak]

So what? She probably liked that her husband was being repressed. Maybe she snitched at him. You never know there were frost pavliks in the USSR

[militia2]

I could also tell about my mom. Sometimes there were no birch branches. Was she, as you write, “grateful”? I won’t say right away. There were very few joys in life (in 41, she graduated from high school, and it was on the Kursk Bulge), not to mention material wealth. And here are some small human joys (for example, how they sewed her first own dress for prom), she rarely, but remembered. I kindly remembered. It seems to me that it was only she who had the right to say whether she was "grateful" to her life and that time or not. Maybe I'm wrong, but you and I should not judge for them this "gratitude."
Yes, I didn’t hear words like Kikabidze said from her, although I could walk through the local officials according to my mood. She spoke the language masterly. Already recently, when I came to visit her in an oncological hospital, already approaching the hospital building, I sometimes heard deafening peals of laughter all over the street. So mom is still holding on, telling something to her roommates, I thought.

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

Quote: Imobile

They achieved contrary, not thanks.

what nonsense

Quote: Imobile

but one with the other? The fact that they were born in the USSR does not oblige to anything.

if you received preferences from that country, awards, pledged love then you are obligated

[Professor]

Even the table was laid. The guys sat, walked. (...) It was difficult to imagine that this huge colossus could be smashed to smithereens.

I also remember this joyful day very well. True, he didn’t set the table and did not firecrackers. But in vain. Well done Vakhtang.

[Golovan Jack]

Quote: professor

I also remember this joyful day very well

Potrаpouring in, Oleg?
Why so thick?

[Professor]

Quote: Golovan Jack

Spend a stop, Oleg?

Support Vakhtang. Moreover, he is absolutely right in relation to the scoop and to the events of the 2008 year.

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

Quote: professor

2008 events

and what is he right about?
Did Russia attack?

[Professor]

Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir

Quote: professor

2008 events

and what is he right about?
Did Russia attack?

What are you? They were tractor drivers and miners who on the eve of 08.08.08 fired on Georgian positions, which Tbilisi repeatedly complained to the UN. But this is all the details that you should not pay attention to, as well as the fact that the "peacekeepers" did not have a peacekeeping mandate, and accordingly they were not peacekeepers. Do not dwell on the details and listen to Kisilev.

Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir

right was skoibeda

Everyone has their own ideals.

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

Quote: professor

What are you? It was tractor drivers and miners who on the eve of 08.08.08 fired at Georgian positions, which Tbilisi repeatedly complained to the UN.

a miracle even Europe recognized that aggression began rodents

Quote: professor

the "peacekeepers" did not have a peacekeeping mandate, and accordingly they were not peacekeepers.

Well, frankly something you do not need to fuck

Quote: professor

Everyone has their own ideals.

it yes

[Professor]

Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir

a miracle even Europe recognized that aggression began rodents

Nothing like this. UN and EU condemned Russian aggression.

Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir

Well, frankly something you do not need to fuck

Present a mandate.

Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir

it yes

Are you throwing Zigi or are you only supporting Scoibed?

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

Quote: professor

Nothing like this. UN and EU condemned Russian aggression.

I am surprised I do not know your obstinacy or stupidity

“None of the explanations provided by the Georgian authorities that would provide any legal explanation for this attack turned out to be justified. In particular, according to the information available to the mission, the massive military invasion of Russia, which was supposed to be stopped by the bombing of Tskhinvali by the Georgian Armed Forces, was not carried out, ”Tagliavini said.

Quote: professor

Are you throwing Zigi or are you only supporting Scoibed?

I state the fact that you are praying for the Union that your people exist and you have the audacity to insult the country that gave you life

[Halkalak]

Of course the Russian Federation, not Georgia

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

Quote: professor

I also remember this joyful day very well.

I suppose he was in the Komsomol and in the army
right was skoibeda

[Valid benchmark]

Most often, they were members of the party. And what rechki at party meetings rolled up ...

[sxfRipper]

Quote: professor

I also remember this joyful day very well. True, he didn’t set the table and did not firecrackers. But in vain. Well done Vakhtang.

Well, the professor could not get past such a powerful fan. Especially during an attack of diarrhea.

[militia2]

Of course, well done. Such special events should be carried out regularly. Immediately the overall picture becomes visible. It is clear who is who. And what is potentially capable. And of course, we must draw the appropriate conclusions.

[kakvastam]

It’s time to finish perceiving the statements of “cultural figures,” especially actors, singers, and musicians, as something of value. Of course, they often can speak beautifully and convincingly, but with the knowledge and skills necessary to make a qualified judgment on issues that go beyond their skill, there is usually a complete disaster.
And even more so, it is not worth discussing such statements.

[Imobile]

Actually in the USSR there was a saying Sickle and hammer - death and hunger

[militia2]

Yes, that's for sure. And here's another one: "Fool and glass horseradish is useless."

[Colleague]

bottom it and in africa bottom

[flicker]

According to Kikabidze, he hates the emblem of the USSR. The hammer and sickle of the Georgian (Soviet) actor called the symbol of “bad life” and expressed doubt about the mental abilities of those who invented this emblem.

"Georgian (Soviet) actor", but what kind of actor was he ..? Just parasitized on Georgian culture.