New marines will be equipped with a gas turbine

The promulgated concept of a promising marines combat vehicle (BMMP) aroused considerable interest among military experts, writes Messenger of Mordovia.

The fact is that it was decided to equip the “floating tank” with a power gas turbine unit in the 1500 HP. According to experts, the Russian designers, after a period of some cooling, again showed interest in this topic.

So, the troops began to return Tanks T-80BV (although in a modernized form). And now talking about gas turbines for BMMP. And if earlier a 1250 hp engine was chosen for the wheeled version of the combat vehicle, which is already equipped with T-80U and T-80BVM tanks, then a 1500 hp turbine will be installed on the “floating tank”.

With its own weight in 35 tonnes, BMMP will have a high power density and will surpass all existing world analogues in terms of “maximum speed”. The stated maximum speed on land is 75 km / h, on water - 37 km / h.

The modular design of the armored vehicle allows you to create versions with tools caliber 57 mm and 125 mm. It is possible to install ATGM and other weapons.

As the author of the material notes, receiving such equipment for service, the marines will become a high-tech branch of the military, capable of performing any tasks assigned.

Comments

[Magic archer]

An interesting project. The speed in 37 km by water! Plus a strong weapon. The Americans had such a development, but after swelling a lot of money they covered it.

[cost]

. 37 km speed on water! Yes, on this machine you can safely chase Somali pirates

[novel66]

go under their own power to America

[san4es]

rum

Quote: novel xnumx

go under their own power to America

... On a glider ... 29 knots. (in the video) = 53 km / h at 850 l / s (land) and 2703 l / s (on water)

[novel66]

Sanya. Hello those. still meet the enemy?

[Per se.]

Quote: Rich

Speed ​​in 37 km by water!

This is at the exit to gliding, which requires a relatively calm sea. We, at one time, had torpedo boats, such as the G-5, but it was one thing to set records in calm weather and peacetime, the realities of war turned out to be quite another, where it was not always possible to fly on 50 nodes ... Germans relied on keel, and not red boats, which turned out much better here. As for the strenuous lobbying of BMMP, with an eye on the Yankees' authority and their attempts with the EFV, this is hardly a wise decision, to say the least. As already noted here in the comments, the Americans abandoned their freak, having a cloud of UDC and complete supremacy at sea. If we descend “Grachat”, as the descent of an aircraft carrier, then the BMP-3F would have been better given to the marines, especially since in addition to the fantastic “over-horizon landings” for us, there are quite urgent combat needs in such seas as the Caspian Sea, Baltic Sea and Black. ..

[MPN]

Fireballs for racing Well, actually this is a hybrid ship and something else. On ships, engines are generally always powerful ...

[san4es]

Quote: Magic Archer

... The Americans had such a development.

[Yrec]

To promise is not to marry. Marines, like the entire surface naval fleet, are funded on a residual basis. It is unlikely that they will file a new BMP. In the best case, BMP-3 and BTR-80/82 are upgraded for them. Everything else is not navigable due to the layout.

[Bar1]

what kind of turbine is it?

[svp67]

GTE is certainly an interesting solution for such a machine. And apparently it would be good to make unification, but here we should not forget about the additional diesel or gas turbine engine of low power for the APU. Since speed is speed, but on the spot, saving fuel would not hurt

[seos]

Yes, and in this version it will pull 5-7 m. $ .... The military will not buy it, it’s cheaper to arrange a landing with landing boats ...

There must be an economic justification for any project - this project does not have it! Moreover, there is no concept of the use of such equipment and the type of troops who need this machine ...

[svp67]

Quote: seos

Moreover, there is no concept of the use of such equipment and the type of troops who need this machine ...

Marines. Previously, the first wave went to the KVP, now, for lack of them, they will go on these machines

[123456789]

New marines will be equipped with a gas turbine

All the advantages of a gas turbine engine cross out their cost.

[svp67]

Quote: 123456789

All the advantages of a gas turbine engine cross out their cost.

In this case, it is not so categorical. Such machines do not require thousands.

[123456789]

Quote: svp67

Quote: 123456789

All the advantages of a gas turbine engine cross out their cost.

In this case, it is not so categorical. Such machines do not require thousands.

A kakawa question price? How much is a gas turbine more expensive than a diesel engine?

[svp67]

Quote: 123456789

How much is a gas turbine more expensive than a diesel engine?

If equal in power, then somewhere in two.

[123456789]

Quote: svp67

Quote: 123456789

How much is a gas turbine more expensive than a diesel engine?

If equal in power, then somewhere in two.

In 1989, the T-72B engine cost 15tyr, and the T-80u - 104 Tyr

[svp67]

Quote: 123456789

In 1989, the T-72B engine cost 15tyr, and the T-80u - 104 Tyr

Do you know the power of these engines? And the price of engines of the V-2 series, everything grows and grows, from series to series, they require an increasingly expensive fuel and lubricants for their work, but the power of a gas turbine engine has not been reached. The price of a gas turbine engine is more expensive, but now in Russia the production of a gas turbine engine is reviving at an accelerated pace, both for aviation, shipbuilding, and for land equipment, and the price of new engines for this armored vehicle is yes, it will be more expensive, but they also promise to take off the capacity, which is about 2000 hp, the same is not small

[123456789]

Quote: svp67

the price of new engines for this BTT yes, it will be more expensive

And if you can’t see the difference, why pay more?
Even inconvenient to give examples of the Second World War. There is a promising platform ... Why reinvent again ... (bicycle)

[svp67]

Quote: 123456789

And if you can’t see the difference, why pay more?

Then, what exactly for such machines GTE has big advantages. Thanks to which many lives can be saved

[123456789]

Quote: svp67

Quote: 123456789

And if you can’t see the difference, why pay more?

Then, what exactly for such machines GTE has big advantages. Thanks to which many lives can be saved

"Soldiers do not regret, women still give birth!"

[dauria]

All the advantages of a gas turbine engine cross out their cost.

And the dust. If the cost can still be overcome in a large series, unification with turboshaft engines for helicopters, then the dust eats the blades for six months. A tenth of the resource will not be worked out. For winter and the middle zone and the north is normal, and starting in severe frost is not a problem, for the steppes and the south it is better than diesel.

[Galleon]

35 tons. With a width of 3,5 m and a length of about 7 m in fresh water, the sediment of such a BMMP will be about 1,5 m. 37km / h ?! This will be an excellent indicator.

[Sanichsan]

and another important indicator ... with 35 tons, an engine of 1500 horses! this is 43 horses per ton !!! it seems about 75km / h on land pretty understated .. or is it in the field ????

[alatanas]

In my opinion, a gas turbine is a gluttonous engine, and the reducer will be voluminous in size. Then also the high exhaust temperature is also not an advantage.

[dgonni]

Do the authors imagine a set of problems in terms of salting a gas turbine? Well, the need for fuel plays an important role. In a word, a project for cutting dough!

[Proton]

Another "unique" machine, we will soon, like the Indians, such a nomenclature of any technology is not unified, like the Indians
What the hell, instead of the ships and hovercraft air cushion, some kind of wunderwaffle is again sculpted expensive.

[Evil 55]

Dope .. A gas turbine for a floating machine is a utopia with the goal of laundering a huge piece of dough, and no more ..

[Vadim237]

And the question is open - where and how to land on them, in the absence of landing ships, I hope all this will remain in the picture.

[prodi]

Blimey. Marines - a completely incomprehensible resource of our admirals

[Signaller]

I think it needs to be equipped with a rocket engine of some sort of NK 33th. To take off immediately from the ramp. And then swim through the pond .. But for serious- the unreasonableness of this beginning is immediately visible. . Type-landing. -Fine. Ships approach the landing site, here the broads and they were all covered with missiles. Where did they go ?? -. To the bottom of the sea. Who will they plant? Clear stump-corpses, when they emerge .. The economy should be economical. And if you want to get something in military affairs, you need to count grandmothers, for starters .. How much this ship will cost and what good it is in comparison with existing ones. And most importantly, price-effectiveness. . I think, here and the fairy tale ends with this undertaking.

[Owl]

The “gluttony” of a gas turbine engine is not critical for a fleeting capture of a bridgehead, but in the absence of reinforcements from conventional ground forces and assets, it will be left without fuel for a day.

[cordon332]

With a body volume of 40 engine cubes of 1500 hp not enough to enter the redan, so the speed on the water of 37km / h is a pipe dream. And if the speed is 10 - 12 km / h, then why bother with a garden when there is a beautiful BMP-3F car with a speed of 10 km / h on water.