US Marine Corps chose a new wheeled armored personnel carrier

The company BAE Systems won the tender for the supply of the United States Marine Corps promising floating armored personnel carrier with the wheel formula 8х8. According to the contract, the company will supply the United States KMP to the end of 2019 of the year 60 pre-production machines, and first 2020 of the year will start their mass production, according to American media.

This model of an armored personnel carrier is a joint development of BAE Systems with the Italian group Iveco based on the Iveco created VBA armored personnel carrier (modification of the SUPERAV armored personnel carrier).

The body of the armored personnel carrier welded from armored steel sheets, provides protection against small arms weapons and shell fragments. Laid the possibility of enhancing body armor by installing hinged armor. In the forward part of the car, on the left is the control compartment with the driver’s seat, to the right of it is the engine compartment (MTO) with a multi-fuel diesel engine with turbocharging power 500-560 hp (368-412 kW). The troop compartment is located in the hull aft and accommodates 12 fully equipped infantrymen. The landing and landing of troops is carried out through the stern doors or hatches in the roof of the hull. The BTR is equipped with a new remotely controlled Oto Melara HITFIST Overhead Weapon Station, equipped with an 30-mm ATK Mk 44 automatic cannon, an 7,62-mm machine gun paired with it and a Rafael Spike ATGM container launcher.

Although the weight of the BTR is 24 tons, the machine is waterfowl. Speed ​​in 10 km / h on the water is achieved with the help of two propellers, while the armored personnel carrier maintains seaworthiness when the waves are up to three points.

Comments

[alekc75]

a big wardrobe — you won’t miss it !!!!

[tihon4uk]

And our armored personnel carrier Boomerang isn’t much smaller, it’s also a big closet, height is 3,5 meters.

[Yrec]

Gigantomania hit military minds. What do we have, what do they have. Interestingly, and in terms of dimensions, these monsters pass everywhere?

[Shurik70]

Gigantomania okay.
But why did they decide to buy armored personnel carriers for the army with bulletproof steel armor? And this is after the Bradley with aluminum walls. Have you really thought about the safety of passengers?
It is strange.

[Vadim237]

There the armor is not bulletproof - the armor on this bat is most likely and the 57 mm cannon shell will withstand.

[Shurik70]

Hard to say. Americans are too fond of "lobbying" (legalized corruption). So the armor can not keep a bullet from the Kalash, and can withstand a rather big projectile. It depends on how you sawed the budget when making a car.
Well, purely in theory - the power of the engine, and 12 infantrymen - this is already considerable weight. And the car weighs only 24 tons, and at the same time swims. So most likely the armor is weak, designed for a maximum of fragments from the shells, but not to the shells themselves.

[Vadim237]

24 tons is standard, with a maximum mounted modular armor and 40 mm gun and pulls under 30 tons. I have never heard that in the USA they would accept a bad reservation. But here in Russia, it rolls - a helmet for 6B47 Warrior - does not hold a PM bullet, in fact, the soldier will have a dented cranial bone fracture and one hundred percent death.

[Shurik70]

Quote: Vadim237

I have never heard that in the USA they would accept a bad reservation

Watch the 1998 Pentagon Wars movie about adopting Bradley.
It is very well shown that anything can be accepted. In particular, at the ostentatious tests of armor resistance, an RPG shot was used, which the door could not penetrate from thin sheet steel. The shot was a little more powerful, not only piercing the Bradley’s board, but showed that the aluminum alloy of the “armor” forms toxic smoke when pierced, filling the entire room and burning out not only the lungs and skin, but even the uniform fabric and plastic mannequins.

[Vadim237]

The aluminum armor of the BMP that we have in the USA does not and cannot hold shots from grenade launchers.

[just exp]

size is not the biggest problem. because ATGMs are now such that they will not miss even the Soviet BTT which is several times smaller in size.
here the problem is that the dimensions increase with the stored weight.
that is, the thickness of the armor drops. or it remains as before but the average weight is growing. and they stop swimming or being landing.

[Vadim237]

What you won’t miss there, large-caliber sniper rifles will not penetrate it, RPGs need to go 200 to 400 meters at the distance of the aimed shot, and most likely this new APC will not remain without protection kits.

[marlin1203]

Some kind of this pepelats is unrealistically high ...

[Thunderbolt]

Quote: tihon4uk

And our armored personnel carrier Boomerang isn’t much smaller, it’s also a big closet, height is 3,5 meters.

That's right, only here is something else:

the company will supply the U.S. CLC by the end of 2019 with 60 pre-production vehicles, and first of 2020 will begin their mass production

And somehow there is no doubt that the ILC will receive this. And the Boomerangs are now at what stage of development?

[Thunderbolt]

Quote: marlin1203

Some kind of this pepelats is unrealistically high ...

High mean? But this armored personnel carrier is not high, with a landing party moving on the roof? It is the same in height, but the Americans have a bonus for armor protection of the body, and these only have body armor.

[Mikhail Zubkov]

When riding inside, a cumulative mine or grenade could kill everyone inside. When riding on armor from above, concussions were usually obtained - with the same mine or grenade. Only those inside were killed - the driver and gunner in the tower. When firing small arms on people on armor, 90% have time to jump, even the wounded. The same with shelling. Practice has shown less loss of l / s when riding on an armor than inside it. Only in battle does the armor cover the dismounted l / s in the attack.

[cast iron]

This is your practice of guerrilla warfare with ambushes. And in a large-scale war, a nearby 120mm mine or 152mm landmine will tear down all the infantrymen on the roof of the armored personnel carrier. From them only legs and arms will remain, and the armored personnel carrier will not even scratch.

[Vadim237]

Well, fragments from a 120 mm mine and from a 152 mm shell, armored personnel carriers and armored personnel carriers, they will definitely break through.

[cast iron]

Persuaded - we continue to ride on the armor :)))) Designers and engineers check everything empirically. If a 120mm min or 152 mm projectile 30-50m from a person can tear it like a rag, then in an armored personnel carrier, at least shell shock will not arrive. I'm not talking about the fact that all the small hundreds of shell fragments will abut the armored personnel carrier. In the case when the personnel are sitting on the armor, there are no chances at all.

[alstr]

Does it just seem to me that this is a big convenient target?

[rocket757]

And they sho will fight on it also? What if they scratch?

[Lopatov]

Otherwise, it’s impossible. Over-horizon landing with excitement of up to three points, small cars simply will not pull these requirements.
Well, plus a big "landing" of 12 people, not counting the crew, and "with things", which again due to the requirements of over-horizon landing cannot be placed on the armor, as is done on the "Striker"

[rocket757]

A mustache may be, and such a trend can be traced.
Of course, it is not necessary, but later it will be possible to see how many they will order for the troops. This is a real indicator, an estimate.

[avt]

Quote: Spade

Overhead landing

On this !?? Actually for

Quote: Spade

Overhead landing

different dashboards are self-propelled, well, VTOL are different and other landing boats.

[Normal ok]

Quote: alstr

Does it just seem to me that this is a big convenient target?

Get into it from 800 meters, in motion, from Mt-shki. I'll give you a watch.

[Sands Careers General]

If at least one is presented to the ancient Sumerians, ours will surely fall from Mt-shki, since there is practice, the guys are desperate, they are not afraid of a damn god))

[d ^ Amir]

something he’s kinda ..... big ... especially tall ...

[rocket757]

I am sitting high, looking far away!
Let's just say they LOOK!

[d ^ Amir]

Good afternoon!!! know what ??? how does something armor-piercing arrive ??? and nothing is said about mine protection ...

[Vadim237]

Judging by the design, undermining the anti-tank under the wheel will definitely withstand.

[rocket757]

This is to the fact that the giraffe is small, he should see a hot-hell away.
The trend is this, the technique is larger, more secure. but this weight, dimensions increases in the first place ... besides buoyancy is needed.
The miracle of design thought is shorter!
Let's see who orders it and how much? Here is a real, more or less, assessment and will be.

[Alexey RA]

Tradition s.
Here is the tracked armored personnel carrier of the United States BMP (renamed BMP):

[rocket757]

Nice assembly. Bo-o-olsh!
In short, the case will show what it will be in real life!

[gukoyan]

Another drank budget?
The park is often updated ...

[Lopatov]

Do not confuse the ILC and the Army, in other words, the US Ground Forces.
Their marines were last updated in the early 80s. Adopting the LAV-25

[Ratmir_Ryazan]

Serious cars, as many as 12 landing troops, a 30-mm cannon, ATGM, machine gun, it is clear that the thermal imagers and communications are all on par. Somehow, our “Boomerang” resembles ... Only we seem to have fewer paratroopers ...

On the account of the fact that this is an easy target - forget it ... Read at least about the effectiveness of new anti-cumulative nets made of steel cables (instead of shields made of steel tape), but I will not even talk about KAZ, which is also likely to be on this armored personnel carrier. ..

[Engineer]

Wow! Serious device. Somehow Boomerang against his background is no longer so inspiring. Also, the body is steel, not luminium. Given the funds of the Connecting States, there is no doubt that rearmament will pass quickly. And we will have 4pcs in parades. But what are the new caps washed down for the soldiers!

[cordon332]

The real car. And then 37km / h afloat, engine power of 2000 hp, exit to redan, etc. etc., their life quickly landed.

[Alexey RA]

Quote: kordon332

The real car. And then 37km / h afloat, engine power of 2000 hp, exit to redan, etc. etc., their life quickly landed.

No money.
These are rogues from the KMP - they traditionally lack the budget for modern cars. During the Cold War, when the Abrams were assembled even in Egypt, the ILC continued to roll out onto the M60. However, even now the KMP has tanks inferior to the army team for a couple of modifications. And Marines still order the “Cobras” and “Huey” and made BMPs from armored personnel carriers from Vietnam.

[tacet]

Is propellers not an anachronism?

[san4es]

... is a joint development of BAE Systems with the Italian Iveco group based on the Iveco VBA armored personnel carrier (a modification of the SUPERAV armored personnel carrier).

[Signaller]

Listen-a great target for an RPG, Here the rookie will not miss.

[Vadim237]

On this machine there will be a complex of active defense - and getting from an RPG, such a bandura will not do anything, a large interior space, ammunition is carried outside the habitable zone.

[Ratmir_Ryazan]

No, maybe he will do something, but it will be hard to do it ...