Teaching of the Armed Forces of Ukraine with the use of MANPADS and other air defense systems. Prepare a second MH17?

The Ukrainian air defense and air force units conduct command and staff exercises in the south of the country. The press service of the Ukrainian Ministry of Defense reports that the anti-aircraft missile divisions were practicing movements in positions, carrying out air cover for troops, detecting, escorting and destroying conditional air targets, organizing and carrying out ground defense units in field positions.

It is noteworthy that during the KSHU, Ukrainian soldiers used man-portable air defense systems.

Given the large number of provocations at the line of contact, noted recently, the use of MANPADS near the so-called operation of the combined forces can not cause alarm. This is in view of the fact that civilian airliner routes continue to pass over Ukraine.

From the message of the press service of the Ukrainian military:

Also, the divisions went into spare positions at night. The personnel acted confidently, skillfully and professionally.

As skillfully and professionally as in July 2014, when they attacked the Malaysian airliner?

Meanwhile, a meeting of Ukrainian staff officers with NATO military personnel took place in Vinnitsa. It is noted that the results of the joint operation "Northern Falcon-2018" were discussed. It was attended by Ukrainian and Danish troops. The operation was carried out in the format of the delivery of special goods in the "high" latitudes. So, transport aviation involved, for example, for the delivery of fuel to Greenland.

On the Ukrainian side, 44 military personnel from the military transport aviation brigade of the Ukrainian Air Force stationed in Melitopol took part. Using IL-76, Ukrainian pilots transported 500 thousand liters of fuel from the US Air Force Thule airbase to the Danish polar station Nord.

Comments

[Mountain shooter]

No one flies there anymore. Over VNA. Only those to and from them. Transit - fly around, "just in case" ... But the fact that they run with MANPADS ... But what else should they run with?

[Teberii]

Ukraine is used as a bridgehead. And they cook in the hope of bleeding the Slavic peoples in the fratricidal war.

[The black]

Quote: Mountain Shooter

Yes, no one flies there. Over VNA. Only those to and from them. Transit - fly around, "just in case" ..

Fly around then fly around .... but these stubs may well be an OSCE helicopter to land near the line of contact. Well, then all the "free media" of the West will immediately investigate everything and in five minutes they will issue a verdict - Russia ....

[Cananecat]

In the verdict in this case it will be said that the “bird” was shot down by the Russian MANPADS, which is not far from the truth. Russian, i.e. made in Russia. The reader will not think about this "pork fry", it is important for him to satisfy the hunger for information, and where this "pig" actually grew and walked on his sides, he will not be interested.
The key to success is to avoid accurate language, the reader will think up the rest. In other matters, this can often be observed in articles on VO.

[Spitfire]

Quote: Mountain Shooter

No one flies there anymore. Over VNA. Only those to and from them. Transit - fly around, "just in case" ... But the fact that they run with MANPADS ... But what else should they run with?

Transit - fly. And Europeans to the south, and Turks, and Israelis to Moscow. flightradar24 to help you. And MANPADS, as has already been noted, there is no way to transit countries.

[siberalt]

Just in case, these MANPADS will come in handy to land Poroshenko, if he decides to escape.

[Normal ok]

Quote: Mountain Shooter

Yes, no one flies there.

Over the village of Tairova (Odessa) and Sukhiy Liman (suburb of Odessa), every 30-60 minutes passenger planes come in and take off: Poles, French, Turks, actually Ukrainian and many low-cost airlines of unknown origin. Since this stupidity is repeated not the first time, I’m not too lazy to take a video.

[dog breeder]

Teachings ... Northern donkey. They carry goods, in an emergency - even this will not be allowed - they will steal.

[Alex-a832]

Teaching of the Armed Forces of Ukraine with the use of MANPADS and other air defense systems. Prepare a second MH17?

The desire to attract the reader with a screaming headline often leads to mistakes. MANPADS do not work at the altitudes at which civil aviation flies - this is about 10 thousand meters. Probably, Buk-type air defense systems were used in the exercises, but to repeat the provocation with MH17, exercises do not need to be carried out - this is a civilian undefended board. It would be better to describe the reality that preparations are underway for an attack on LDNR, this is more like the truth.

[silverwolf88]

Yes, after the Boeing incident ... only there are still some sort of flights ... well, history doesn’t teach anything ...

[Bshkaus]

They are preparing in case Russia joins LDNR. I would beware of hat-mood and banter. Ukraine has S300, Buki and many other good. For a second, if you officially believe the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation, then Syria with a much more modest Soviet air defense thwarted an attack of 100 missiles, giving 70%. We peak used up to 40 calibers. Yes, and in Georgia our aircraft were beaten by Ukrainian crews, so their experience is not only in Tu-154 and Boeing. By the way, MANPADS also will not deliver joy to Russian helicopters. Losses will be many times higher than the Syrian and especially the war of three eights. Russia, of course, will reach Kiev, but the price is too high. So it doesn’t wake up any offensives either by the LDNR or the APU. There is generally a military impasse. The LDNR’s offensive potential was finally exhausted by taking Debaltseve. Now both sides are playing on the defensive, but no one can advance, either at a too bloody cost with unpredictable results, but everyone wants to live.

[just exp]

I generally agree, except for the topic with calibers.
for in Syria Buk-M2 and Armor worked on them, and these are new air defense systems. S-200 and S-125 almost did not show themselves.
in addition, in Syria, the Syrians knew who they would beat and the flight routes of the Kyrgyz Republic.
here the kaklov will not.

[Normal ok]

Quote: just explo

in Syria, the Syrians knew by whom they would beat and the flight routes of the Kyrgyz Republic.

You should not think so. In the CIS countries, all senior military men once studied together. Intelligence, it’s not difficult to recruit agents.

[just exp]

Well, yes, our military will rush en masse to kaklam.
isn’t it funny?

[Bshkaus]

Why do you think that Ukrainians do not wake up information?
Firstly, their drones constantly fly from Sicily and monitor the front-line zone and the border of the Russian Federation for 6 hours.
Secondly, 5 tankers were stationed in Lviv, I assure you that in the event of an aggravation, Avax and EW airplanes, creating a dome over the Donbass, will barrage in the sky of Ukraine. Note that this is not direct participation in the hostilities or even the supply of lethal weapons, but the effectiveness of air defense and the air force will rise significantly. In any case, the Russian Aerospace Forces will deal not with a backward enemy, but with fully operational units. And they can also drive fighters from NATO bases on patrols, which, without entering into an air battle, will shoot down calibers without formally entering into military operations with Russian aviation.

[just exp]

1 avaks not there
2 after the strike, they can even run ataxes at least shmavaksa, calibers are all.

[Alex-a832]

Quote: Bshkaus

Losses will be many times higher than the Syrian and especially the war of three eights. Russia will certainly reach Kiev, but the price is too high. So it doesn’t wake up any offensives of either the LPR or the APU.

Yes, hatred is always stupid, because there is an underestimation of the enemy. However, it is also impossible to consider Ukraine as a full-fledged military adversary if you know the mood among the population. Any full-fledged military intervention will lead to the surrender of power and massive desertion in the Armed Forces. All opposition will turn into centers of nationalist resistance. This is also understood in the United States, so there is still no resumption of the active offensive of the Armed Forces of Ukraine in the direction of the LPR, only weak provocations to prevent Russia from interfering. Blood can not be passed, but it will not be close to Syria.

[Mimoprohodil]

Ukrainian General Staff simply praised the work of the videoconferencing in Syria

[Serge Gorely]

STA ???? Main plane from MANPADS to bring down? Author, read TTX.

[rumpeljschtizhen]

pulled these stupid headlines

[Larum]

Another "that's about to attack" ....
Again they will bring down militia aviation ...
By the way, who remembers how many bastards militia shot down?

[Normal ok]

As skillfully and professionally as in July 2014, when they attacked the Malaysian airliner?

Holland claims Boeing was shot down by "separatists."

[Vol4ara]

Yeah, for 10000 with MANPADS

[Wilderness]

In general, if you agree with the dispatcher (who leads the board), then shooting at 10000 is not necessary, you can do much more "low" ...

[Owl]

Prepare for the offensive and inspire VSUshnikov that Russia will not take the side of Novorossia with its helicopters and airplanes.