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Russian experts have created a unique aerial rocket bomb. Tests are already underway

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RIA News publishes information from a report by the Tactical Missile Corporation. The report said that Russian experts have developed a high-precision aviation ammunition, which has the functionality of both a conventional bomb and rockets. The material says that we are talking about a bomb labeled 9-A-7759.


At the moment, the aerial bomb is undergoing flight design tests. At the same time, it is tested in a variety of conditions, including desert conditions, with exposure to dust and sand.

Which aircraft is used as a carrier of the 9-A-7759 rocket bomb? This is a Su-34 front bomber. During the test, eight times the 9-A-7759 was used as a missile with launching, and three times as an aerial bomb.

Russian experts have created a unique aerial rocket bomb. Tests are already underway


About the newest ammunition is also known that its guidance is carried out using the GLONASS satellite system - that is, it does not depend in any way on the foreign satellite constellation (first of all - the GPS system).

By the way, the newest bomb can be used not only on Su-34 airplanes. As its carrier it is quite possible to consider, for example, Su-35.

The dimensions of a new type of aviation ammunition are not reported.

Currently developing this weapons engaged, for example, in China. There is no data on the degree of implementation of the missile bomb program in the PRC.
Photos used:
Ministry of Defence
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  1. Vanek
    Vanek 20 June 2018 06: 27
    +5
    If an air-to-air missile (yes, in principle, any) in flight is simply uncoupled (yes, yes, go out and uncoupled), a free-falling aerial bomb will result.

    The reverse does not work out only. In the sense of an air bomb like a missile launch.

    smile smile smile
    1. Thrall
      Thrall 20 June 2018 06: 31
      +9
      Quote: Vanek
      in flight just unhook

      If the pilot on the wing climbs to unhook it, then who will control the plane at this time? Yes, and blow it away with a stream of air. And why the bomb with shrapnel. And so the idea is brilliant smile
      1. dog breeder
        dog breeder 20 June 2018 06: 40
        +2
        Thrall
        And why the bomb with shrapnel.

        It’s not too ingenious (unprofitable) to use air-to-air like a bomb. I think Vanyok was joking.
        1. MPN
          MPN 20 June 2018 11: 38
          +5
          Quote: dog breeder
          It’s not too ingenious (unprofitable) to use air-to-air like a bomb. I think Vanyok was joking.

          Nothing specifically said, but it can be judged that there is an engine, steering surfaces and guidance system from the rocket ..., only warheads can be taken from the bomb. It is thought (only thought) that this device, after resetting and turning on the engine, flies into a given zone, namely a zone (this makes it possible not to enter the air defense zone), on a jet draft and not necessarily at some high speed there, just delivery of ammunition to a given the region continues to fall like a bomb in the high-precision version (CAB) ... well, like that. It turns out something like a rocket and essentially a bomb ...
          1. dog breeder
            dog breeder 20 June 2018 12: 00
            +2
            MPN (Paul)
            It is thought (only thought) that this device, after resetting and turning on the engine, flies into a given zone, namely a zone (this makes it possible not to enter the air defense zone), on a jet draft and not necessarily at some high speed there, just delivery of ammunition to a given the region continues to fall like a bomb in the high-precision version (CAB) ... well, like that.

            In the early eighties, by the nature of his activities, he was in one of the aviation regiments, with a certain bias of action. Got into the hands, quite by chance, an analysis of the development of aircraft from different states. There was material in it that the Americans were developing an aerial bomb capable of flying 300 km, with an altitude of 3 km. But here, have you developed it?
            1. MPN
              MPN 20 June 2018 12: 05
              +3
              Quote: dog breeder
              capable of flying 300 km, with a drop height of 3 km. But now, have they developed it?

              GBU-39 From what height I do not know, but 100km. With 3km to plan 300km it is necessary to have an aerodynamic quality of 300. The coolest glider is about 25-30 well, a specially trained one may have 50, but this is the limit.
        2. Vanek
          Vanek 20 June 2018 14: 14
          +2
          Quote: dog breeder
          I think Vanyok was joking.


          That's right. Yes

          Cynologist hi
          1. novel66
            novel66 21 June 2018 11: 54
            +1
            hi in every joke there is a fraction of a joke - by the way, when bombing from a cabbage bomb just acquires certain functions of a rocket
        3. Vladimir 5
          Vladimir 5 21 June 2018 12: 19
          -1
          Under the USSR, during the creation and construction of civil aviation, the possibility of being used as bombers was laid. Syria’s experience has shown that for a particular military theater it’s quite possible to use heavy transports as bombers, especially if modern weapons are created without carriers entering the air defense defeat zones ... And where to bring to the launch line, on an expensive bomber or much more economical transport with a larger load, the answer is unequivocal ...
    2. andrewkor
      andrewkor 20 June 2018 06: 40
      0
      I appreciate your irony! The question is the price of this "gadget" and, accordingly, in relation to efficiency!
    3. just exp
      just exp 20 June 2018 06: 56
      +5
      here I see that the same product can be equipped with an engine and then this is a rocket. Or maybe not . then this is KAB.
      mattresses also have such a topic. like a bomb flies a hundred miles with a penny. and with the engine, the range reaches 450km.
      1. Starover_Z
        Starover_Z 20 June 2018 07: 45
        +1
        Quote: just explo
        here I see that the same product can be equipped with an engine and then this is a rocket. Or maybe not . then this is KAB.

        probably I mean some kind of ratsukh for old ammunition. I hung it before the flight and it turns out controlled! Also an option, use the barmaley with MANPADS!
        1. Snakebyte
          Snakebyte 20 June 2018 07: 57
          +2
          Such a "racukha" has long been invented in the United States, called the JDAM kit. Domestic developers went their own unique way.
          In the USA, for the development of the first, single-channel, generation of satellite-guided weapons (JDAM), the principle of creating a universal external “strapping” for conventional unguided bombs of all calibers was chosen ... And this strapping, consisting of a satellite receiver, guidance system and aerodynamic rudders, was enough inexpensive and simple, turning, if necessary, all unguided bombs into managed bombs. But, despite the simplicity and cheapness, it was still an original development embodied in a real "iron" design ...
          Unlike US designers, GosNIIAS went its own way and “took as its basis” ready-made, developed by other organizations and being in service, guided aerial bombs and guided laser-guided missiles, and replaced the laser seeker with a satellite receiver, also almost ready and not your own ... Those. Neither aerodynamics, nor strength, nor a control system needed to be developed and developed, only algorithmically and electrically connect the satellite receiver to the existing control system of the existing guided bomb ... Purely - a computer game.
          A computer game that turns not cheap unguided bombs into manageable and high-precision, but turns expensive guided bombs into even more expensive, but less accurate, though all-weather (theoretically, because not a single drop was made under difficult weather conditions, just in case )
          But the fact is that this did not work either, both in terms of accuracy and cost, the geniuses did not have enough scientific and technical resources and money for salaries and kickbacks.

          http://www.warandmeasure.com/trials/20110317kab50
          0s.html
          1. Mih1974
            Mih1974 20 June 2018 12: 19
            0
            The cost of the kit is $ 35 for the GBU-38 bomb and $ 70 - for GBU-31

            belay Well, to hell with a cheap upgrade fool Moreover, as we all understand, this system does not give the slightest opportunity "not to enter the air defense zone", so this is only a system for increasing accuracy. But here the system of "hephaestus" mattresses did as potsan. tongue
            I want to remind you that we are "discussing" - only rumors and speculation !! Neither tth, nor appearance, nor any facts at all.
            1. Snakebyte
              Snakebyte 20 June 2018 13: 02
              0
              Quote: Mih1974
              Well, to hell with a cheap upgrade

              For comparison, GBU-39 is $ 300000.
              Quote: Mih1974
              Moreover, as we all understand, this system does not give the slightest opportunity "not to enter the air defense zone", so this is only a system for increasing accuracy. But here the system of "hephaestus" mattresses did as potsan.

              You get it wrong. A range of up to 28 km leaves air defense divisions, such as Tor, and at the limit of the range of Buk military systems.
              As for Hephaestus, only information from experts (= propagandists) of the Moscow Region is known about him. Which have long earned a reputation for total nonsense.
              1. Mih1974
                Mih1974 20 June 2018 13: 14
                +2
                As for Hephaestus, only information from experts (= propagandists) of the Moscow Region is known about him. Which have long earned a reputation for total nonsense.

                If you turn on the brain you will be happy !! fool The Hephaestus system has been asking for a long time and only the lag of the hardware slowed it down. Look not at aviation, but at Artillery - nobody shoots there "somewhere there" negative EVERYONE uses "shooting tables" in which mathematically calculated and verified models of projectile flight are given good . What are there tables - more than once it was released as barmalei in Syria put a tablet in which the calculation program to the mortar (staff) good BARMALEY TABLET apply "Karl". And now for “Hephaestus” - this is the same electronics with very complex algorithms for the behavior of a free-falling bomb. Yes, there is an error, but I, as an amateur, assume that there are few factors that are not taken into account in the calculations that significantly affect the fall of the FAB-500 tongue laughing . But uh, if you look at what Merikas are doing, then they don’t have any high-precision ammunition. fool , in fact, these geeks "demolished to the level of rubble" and Rakku and Mossul negative am
                1. Snakebyte
                  Snakebyte 21 June 2018 07: 46
                  +1
                  Any unguided ammunition will be seriously inferior to the corrected, even if the magical Hephaestus is brought in with perfect accuracy. Can he take into account, for example, drift from different wind speeds at different heights? To accurately get unguided ammunition from a 15-km height into a target at a distance of 20 km?
                  And "Hephaestus" is only on one type of media, while JDAM can be hung on any drummer. Even on helicopters it clings.
                  Quote: Mih1974
                  But wow, if you look at what the Merikas are doing, then they don’t have any high-precision fool ammunition, in fact, these geeks "demolished to the level of rubble" and Rakku and Mossul negative am

                  Do not watch domestic propaganda in the morning. Aleppo wasn’t bombed by the Americans, and there was no stone left.
                  1. sivuch
                    sivuch 21 June 2018 08: 44
                    +1
                    NYA, Hephaestus is installed on at least 2 carriers - Su-24 and Tu-22M3 and, in principle, can be installed anywhere, even on the An-2.
                    And what does it mean to hit? There are quite specific CVO figures that unmanaged TSAs will be worse, which is offset by their low cost, which means the quantity
                    1. Snakebyte
                      Snakebyte 22 June 2018 08: 37
                      0
                      Quote: sivuch
                      NYA, Hephaestus is installed on at least 2 carriers - Su-24 and Tu-22M3 and, in principle, can be installed anywhere, even on the An-2.

                      Knowing the features of domestic products, "in principle, anywhere," it turns into "registering the product on each carrier individually for a fee." Read the link that I provided, how the KAB-500S instead of "front-line aircraft" was eventually shoved only onto the Su-34. And it's just a satellite-guided bomb, an analogue of JDAM.
                      Quote: sivuch
                      There are quite specific CVO figures that unmanaged TSAs will be worse, which is offset by their low cost, which means the quantity

                      Yeah, as I wrote earlier, instead of destroying a terrorist in a 50-kg toilet with ammunition, we demolish the toilet along with the whole village. And then we scold the Americans for their "barbaric bombing of residential areas." At the same time, in official videos from the Moscow Region, they showed explosions of their bombs among residential buildings, calling it "point strikes."
              2. sivuch
                sivuch 21 June 2018 08: 46
                0
                Strange, but I read quite positive reviews about the work of Hephaestus. Is it really all polls too? what
                1. Snakebyte
                  Snakebyte 22 June 2018 08: 30
                  0
                  Who are the reviews from? From test pilots?
                  I don’t really trust them, they are also interested persons.

                  In principle, I have nothing against Hephaestus, but in any case he seriously loses in precisely guided ammunition with increasing distance to the target.
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  2. andrewkor
    andrewkor 20 June 2018 06: 38
    +2
    Universal ammunition for any will lose to specialized ammunition, especially for the price. Missiles or guided bombs are needed against the objects of the covered air defense, and "dumb" free-falling bombs will come down against the "barmaley", but dropped by a command from the satellite, which the Russian aerospace forces used in Syria. The above innovation looks a lot like a budget cut!
    1. just exp
      just exp 20 June 2018 06: 57
      +3
      vice versa. for guided bombs are much cheaper than missiles.
      and even NATO does not have such military air defense as ours. Well, they do not have in the air defense forces that would work out using ASP. and here we have both Thor and the shell (though the army only Thor)
      1. Blackmokona
        Blackmokona 20 June 2018 07: 24
        0
        SAM Aanger as an example
        1. Charik
          Charik 20 June 2018 19: 45
          0
          surely your avanger what's in it stinger
        2. just exp
          just exp 21 June 2018 13: 05
          0
          and how does a stinger work on a PSA that does not have an engine?
          and an eugener is a stinger in a jeep.
          and even with x-31 missiles how does the stinger work?
      2. Bad thing
        Bad thing 20 June 2018 20: 40
        +1
        The basis of the air defense of NATO countries is fighter aircraft cover. Destruction of carriers before reaching the start line (reset). In general, the best air defense system is a tank company on the runway. laughing
        1. sivuch
          sivuch 21 June 2018 09: 21
          0
          Now try to apply this rule to Harop flying at you.
    2. Vkd dvk
      Vkd dvk 20 June 2018 09: 31
      +2
      Quote: andrewkor
      Universal ammunition for any will lose to specialized ammunition, especially for the price. Missiles or guided bombs are needed against the objects of the covered air defense, and "dumb" free-falling bombs will come down against the "barmaley", but dropped by a command from the satellite, which the Russian aerospace forces used in Syria. The above innovation looks a lot like a budget cut!

      Universalism is achieved in various ways. Including the manufacture of things from standardized parts. For example, when hanging on an airplane, one ammunition is placed as is, and the other with a prefix, making it a rocket. And it is reset first, with the goal of first destroying the anti-aircraft defense, and then, when it becomes possible, it is reset. which is without buttocks.
    3. venik
      venik 20 June 2018 12: 18
      +1
      Quote: andrewkor
      The above innovation looks a lot like a budget cut!

      ========
      Seriously??? And it reminds me more of a "block-modular system." It is necessary, for example, on the "barmaley" (which apart from MANPADS and ZU-23 have nothing more serious!) To gasp - take the BOMB using the system (either Hephaestus, or Hermes - I don’t remember) - the bomb definitely !!!
      Well, if the enemy in the target area has gotten something “more serious" - a mantle in front of the guidance unit - and here’s the "planning KAB" (aerial bomb) with a flight range of 10-15 km (or maybe more!) .....
      Well, if in the target area something more serious (!) - “screw in the back” engine - and on you - something like MLRS “Tornado” (aerial basing!) with a range of somewhere 120-200 km !!! (And even more!) .....
      And what? "Cheap and cheerful" !!! good
      Well, as you yourself, your own (!) Comment "comment:
      -------
      Quote: andrewkor
      Universal ammunition for any will lose to specialized ammunition, especially for the price. Missiles or guided bombs are needed against objects of covered air defense, and "dumb" free-falling bombs will come down against "barmaleys", but dropped by a command from a satellite, which the Russian aerospace forces used in Syria

      lol
  3. smart ass
    smart ass 20 June 2018 06: 40
    +15
    ya_frosia: A bunch of crowbars tend to sink
    alexei: ya_frosia: But in mercury it floats beautifully
    zoogenic: alexei: But if the scrap is uranium, it’s drowning in mercury
    alexei: zoogenic: swamp uranium scrap in mercury itself
  4. Fungus
    Fungus 20 June 2018 06: 43
    0
    Time will tell
  5. Andrei from Chelyabinsk
    Andrei from Chelyabinsk 20 June 2018 06: 46
    0
    What is unique? :))))
    1. ZVO
      ZVO 20 June 2018 07: 13
      +5
      Quote: Andrey from Chelyabinsk
      What is unique? :))))


      Ours finally began to experience the Russian analogue of the American JDAM.
      1. Romario_Argo
        Romario_Argo 20 June 2018 09: 25
        0
        analogue of American JDAM

        rather, it is an analogue of GBU-39, only we have the declared KVO of 11 meters, and the Americans have 5-8.
        but ours write that the opposition to the EM pulse has not yet been worked out
        By the way, the PBK-500U DRILL bomb is an analogue of GBU-57; AGM-154
    2. Romario_Argo
      Romario_Argo 20 June 2018 08: 43
      +2
      modular missile bomb, with replaceable blocks

      launches in the front and rear hemispheres are realized, the angles of the trajectory 30 - 60 - 82 degrees
  6. Altona
    Altona 20 June 2018 06: 53
    +3
    Quote: Andrey from Chelyabinsk
    What is unique? :))))

    -------------------------
    Well, what’s the matter? Such a bomb falls from itself or from a saw file like a bomb and then an opachka, the engine turns on and the soul rushes to paradise. Or vice versa, it flew like a rocket, and then it crashed and began to fall freely. laughing
  7. sib.ataman
    sib.ataman 20 June 2018 07: 34
    0
    Apparently we are talking about the universalization and cheapening of aviation weapons. Syrian experience suggests?
    1. voyaka uh
      voyaka uh 20 June 2018 13: 58
      +1
      We are talking about expensive, but accurate and more long-range weapons.
    2. Bad thing
      Bad thing 20 June 2018 20: 47
      +1
      Syrian experience only shows that Hephaestus is good against the Papuans, because for a strike the carrier must pass over the object of attack, the enemy with advanced air defense will not allow such happiness.
  8. AID.S
    AID.S 20 June 2018 07: 43
    +1
    During the tests eight times 9-A-7759 was used as a missile with the implementation of launches, and three times as an air bomb.

    Didn’t explode? laughing
    1. soul
      soul 20 June 2018 08: 02
      +2
      No, they took off an encore laughing
      1. Bad thing
        Bad thing 21 June 2018 22: 35
        0
        she returned to the media laughing
  9. Santor
    Santor 20 June 2018 07: 59
    +15
    Well, as always ... No one saw, no one heard, no idea, but they already cheated on all sides, spat out and issued a verdict - "cut the budget."

    From myself I will add - it will be adopted for service approximately in August of this year.
    From the already published materials it follows that the 9-A-7759 product is an aerial bomb with a planning and control module. The complex, which is at the stage of flight tests, is offered in three versions, including a modification with a solid-fuel propulsion system.
    Depending on the modification, the starting mass of the complex is estimated at kilograms 500-600. The maximum missile launch range varies within 65-120 kilometers, speed - 500-1200 kilometers per hour. The length of the rocket exceeds 4,1 meters, in diameter - more than 0,3 meters.



    1. DenZ
      DenZ 20 June 2018 08: 12
      +5
      Well, at the expense of dimensions there is still some information

      and more at https://bmpd.livejournal.com/3241663.html
    2. Mimoprohodil
      Mimoprohodil 20 June 2018 09: 49
      +3
      Here is another photo
  10. shinobi
    shinobi 20 June 2018 08: 06
    +2
    An ordinary concrete-bomb aerial bomb. It is detached, detached and accelerated by a solid-fuel rocket engine at the point of transition to a vertical drop. This "innovation" is about 40 years old. I read about it while I was still a dumbass in "Foreign Military Review", in the section where they are about weapons of countries " our "eastern bloc reasoned.
    1. basmach
      basmach 20 June 2018 08: 24
      +3
      And I studied it at school. There is no sense in a bag serving like a bomb. An engine is less efficient than an explosive charge. And it doesn’t work. Few seconds. Well, replaced with X-29 LGSN or TGSN, received a missile, on the KAB-500 similarly. And how in a joke, they crossed a snake, a hedgehog and a siskin, got 2 meters of flying barbed wire.
    2. Romario_Argo
      Romario_Argo 20 June 2018 09: 28
      0
      in this innovation, you can put the engine and have a range of 120 km, or you can change to OF / OD warhead, the range will decrease to 30-40 km, and the equivalent will be TWO (!) OFAB-500, with a mass of ~ 500 kg
      1. Vadim237
        Vadim237 20 June 2018 10: 04
        +2
        Ours need to create an analogue of the American GBU 39, it weighs only 130 kilograms, the mass of explosives is 93 kilograms, the flight range is 110 kilometers, the EPR is about 0,015 m2
        1. Romario_Argo
          Romario_Argo 20 June 2018 10: 14
          +1
          Our need to create an analogue of the American GBU 39, weighs only 130 pounds

          we do not need a direct analogue of GBU-39, there is less warheads there. A - 500 kg just right (!)
          at the same time, multifunctionality: 3 types of warheads, increased warheads, 2 ranges, launch into the rear hemisphere. There are no such analogues (!)
          1. Vadim237
            Vadim237 20 June 2018 10: 38
            +2
            With this new missile bomb you can hit one object - and with such mini-bombs four, from one suspension.
            1. ZVO
              ZVO 20 June 2018 10: 53
              +2
              Quote: Vadim237
              With this new missile bomb you can hit one object - and with such mini-bombs four, from one suspension.


              1 + ...
              An alternative opponent still suffers from megamanias ...
            2. Romario_Argo
              Romario_Argo 20 June 2018 11: 18
              0
              and in our General Staff, issuing a technical task, apparently they think differently than you Vadim237
              * here in Syria just under Daraa and try
          2. Svateev
            Svateev 20 June 2018 12: 00
            +2
            Quote: Romario_Argo
            launch in the rear hemisphere.

            So she caught up with her plane?
            In order for the rocket not to be turned at 180 degrees by the oncoming flow, it must be given almost instantly speed greater than the speed of the aircraft. You have to shoot it.
            And what you, apparently, mean is a launch as it should be in the front hemisphere followed by a rocket maneuver - a turn by 180 degrees to the target in the back hemisphere laid before launching into the guidance system.
            But such a maneuver is needed for an air-to-air missile, but why the hell is it an air-to-ground missile bomb? First, deploy the aircraft “backwards” to a ground target, and then suffer from launching a rocket bomb in the rear hemisphere ?! You are not brought up by the Chinese Komsomol?
            1. Romario_Argo
              Romario_Argo 20 June 2018 12: 05
              0
              But such a maneuver is needed for an air-to-air missile, but why the hell is it an air-to-ground missile bomb?

              it happens differently. these are questions to the Lipetsk Aviation Application Center
              for example: after hitting targets that have already been explored, when leaving the strike zone or air defense zone with acceleration and anti-ballistic maneuvers, the radar can still see potential targets, and here it is "just the maneuver"
              You are not brought up by the Chinese Komsomol?
              1. Svateev
                Svateev 20 June 2018 13: 09
                0
                Quote: Romario_Argo
                Radar can see more potential targets

                In principle, of course, it is better to have such an opportunity in reserve, just in case, albeit a rare case. But only if such an opportunity is simply the result of a well-functioning guidance system that can direct ammunition anywhere in space.
                But the slogan "we shoot in the back hemisphere" for an understanding person sounds like: "And we remove the tonsils through the anus."
                1. Romario_Argo
                  Romario_Argo 20 June 2018 13: 14
                  0
                  But only if such an opportunity is simply the result of a well-functioning guidance system

                  about the capabilities of the Su-34 radar, I will give my comments on another article
              2. Mih1974
                Mih1974 20 June 2018 13: 24
                +2
                Well, unless the din is the option - we fly "peacefully bombing, we do not touch anyone" here SUDDENLY belay we are launched in the ass SAM, we - (as soon as we have time) "find" the radish and throw such a tricky bomb into it. recourse request It’s not all the same some kind of crap, for starters we need to take it with us, secondly why the hell did we take it with us instead of going in waves and killing those who attack the leader, and the leader should let him down on the afterburner (maybe it will be unscrewed).
  11. Snail N9
    Snail N9 20 June 2018 08: 13
    -1
    Something tells me that even during the Second World War the Germans used such "unique" "missile bombs" (something similar) .... Unique, yes .... and no one has such ... ..and wasn’t .... yeah .... wink
    1. Mestny
      Mestny 20 June 2018 09: 56
      +3
      Why the Germans, take it higher.
      The ancient Romans used podi.
      Well, can our people come up with something new?
      1. Snail N9
        Snail N9 20 June 2018 10: 04
        -1
        Not ... the "ancient Romans" didn’t apply .... it's you, you haven’t yet moved away from the evening-night libations, regarding the victory of the Russian team yesterday ... wink
    2. Mih1974
      Mih1974 20 June 2018 13: 25
      0
      If you look at Syria and Iraq, all the same, everything came down to the mattresses as “rolling up with iron”, and like the dinosaur B-52 was used against Mossul. belay
  12. Alexey-74
    Alexey-74 20 June 2018 08: 26
    0
    I think it’s not entirely correct to compare a rocket and a free-falling air bomb .... in theory, the capabilities of these munitions are different
  13. 2329 Carpenter
    2329 Carpenter 20 June 2018 09: 04
    +1
    As I said, a long time ago, one of my leader and teacher (foreman): "A drill must be a drill; but a puncher - only a puncher. And two in one is bullshit."
    The experience of the next two decades confirms its correctness. Not only with regard to the working tool.
  14. izja
    izja 20 June 2018 09: 19
    +3
    Again having no analogues in the world? laughing
    1. q75agent
      q75agent 20 June 2018 09: 39
      +2
      your bandera hasn’t caught you yet .... bully
    2. Mestny
      Mestny 20 June 2018 09: 57
      +3
      No, having analogues.
      True, there are few of them. In Ukraine, definitely not and never will be.
  15. rocket757
    rocket757 20 June 2018 09: 26
    0
    Price, quality and efficiency. That’s all the criteria.
    It will correspond, let it be .... but no, it’s not a fact that it will be adopted!
  16. izja
    izja 20 June 2018 09: 41
    +2
    Quote: q75agent
    your bandera hasn’t caught you yet .... bully


    In Israel there is no bander; be treated, sometimes it is useful.
    1. rocket757
      rocket757 20 June 2018 09: 54
      +2
      By the way, "having no analogues in the world" - can we because no one needed any ???
      Not a fact, we need sho, it's just a publicity stunt.
      And the scribes will write what they want.
    2. Mih1974
      Mih1974 20 June 2018 13: 26
      +1
      But don’t worry, there are Benders in the IS, and you IS — treat, supply and generally help them fight against Syria, so do not relax, maybe “Bender is already behind you.” lol
    3. Charik
      Charik 20 June 2018 19: 52
      0
      he himself treated the crutch
  17. Larum
    Larum 20 June 2018 10: 31
    0
    Hooray to the new bomb! But it will not save the price of gasoline ....
  18. Chicha squad
    Chicha squad 20 June 2018 11: 16
    +1
    So this is probably it

    Thunder E1
    1. rocket757
      rocket757 20 June 2018 11: 38
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      But shaw, they have Icarus, Carlson, Batman and other things flying, and we will have our own flying, normal!
  19. Ros 56
    Ros 56 20 June 2018 17: 37
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    An interesting thought, if brought to condition, the striped and their minions will cry. And to crawl along the wings, as some suggest, it is possible only on gliders:
  20. Bad thing
    Bad thing 21 June 2018 22: 06
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    and how does a stinger work on a PSA that does not have an engine?

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