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Leonid Kravchuk: Donbass is a cancer tumor, therefore it is necessary to get rid

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The first president of Ukraine gave an interview to the publication Ukrainskaya Pravda, in which he expressed his views on the status of Donbass. According to Leonid Kravchuk, the Donbass will never return to Ukraine as a unitary territory subordinate to Kiev. Recall that the current authorities of Ukraine categorically do not recognize the very possibility of Ukrainian federalization, and declare that Ukraine "will remain a unitary state with a single center - in Kiev."


Kravchuk notes that any forcible return of the Donbass as a territory subordinate to Kiev within the unitary Ukraine will result in a new bloody conflict.

Further statement Kravchuk draws particular attention:
The referendum would allow to solve the problem, but in the end (Ukraine) it is better to abandon the Donbass as a cancer tumor.


According to the first president of Ukraine, the return to the country of the DPR and the LPR "will entail a lot of trouble."

Kravchuk:
Well, at least such a return would be ineffective.


Leonid Kravchuk: Donbass is a cancer tumor, therefore it is necessary to get rid


I wonder whether the representatives of the radical Ukrainian groups will bring the former member of the CPSU Central Committee Leonid Kravchuk after such statements about the need to abandon the Donbass to the “black list”? After all, in essence, Kravchuk expressed separatist ideas, which cannot but go unnoticed by the “independent” radical formations. No less interesting is the reaction of the residents of Donbass, whom Mr. Kravchuk equated to a "cancer tumor." Ukrainian media environment is already boiling ...
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  1. Heterocapsa
    Heterocapsa 18 June 2018 14: 15
    +7
    here and get rid cut all Ukraine wassat
    1. marlin1203
      marlin1203 18 June 2018 14: 18
      +11
      And somehow, a man walks on the earth after everything that he has done in life ... he sleeps, probably, quietly ...
      1. Going
        Going 18 June 2018 14: 34
        +11
        It seems that they are feeling public opinion, this “knight” himself would not have dared to make such statements.
        1. forty-eighth
          forty-eighth 18 June 2018 15: 05
          +1
          Quote: Going
          It seems that they are feeling public opinion, this “knight” himself would not have dared to make such statements.

          Unlikely. He is already a waste material. Who needs it now and how can it be useful? Keep him on a leash to voice an engaged opinion once every 5 years? Hard to believe ...
          1. Alex777
            Alex777 18 June 2018 17: 35
            +2
            So through such stuffing to test the reaction and are done. We have Zhirinovsky, they have their own personnel. And there will be nothing to him. He is the "father of a new Ukraine." hi
      2. Proxima
        Proxima 18 June 2018 14: 41
        +3
        Quote: marlin1203
        And somehow, a man walks on the earth after everything that he has done in life ... he sleeps, probably, quietly ...
        If you mean that Kravchuk was a young man connected with non-Bandera people, then how, am now, his conscience belay
    2. Vend
      Vend 18 June 2018 14: 30
      +2
      The shout of Western solutions.
      1. Nasrat
        Nasrat 18 June 2018 14: 37
        +8
        I wonder if the former will be brought member of the Central Committee of the CPSU Leonid Kravchuk ...

        Like all these members, they quickly sniffed the USSR !! All the same, the main responsibility for the collapse of the country lies with the Khrushchev commies ... koi are still sitting in the Duma !!!
        1. Kasym
          Kasym 18 June 2018 15: 14
          +4
          He was a cancer of the Politburo. hi
          1. LiSiCyn
            LiSiCyn 18 June 2018 16: 57
            +3
            Dauren, hello !! hi
            This is not a complete interview ...
            Then he says that Russia itself will abandon the Crimea (not pull), as was already under Khrushchev wink
            And that Urkaina has already invested $ 100 billion in Crimea. belay
            I was in Sevastopol in March ... In addition to shopping centers and hotels on the coast, I did not see anything built after the 91st request
            1. Kasym
              Kasym 18 June 2018 18: 39
              +1
              Hi Stas! Kravchuk played a major role in the collapse, but in the end it turned out that neither Kiev nor Minsk could develop themselves - the sales market and resources were in the East. Now they would be happy (peoples), but politics does not allow the recognition of the Bialowieza Agreement, which does not correspond to the nat. interests.
              I wonder how much longer Kiev can hold out without destroying the country completely? I thought that before 23g., But most likely earlier. The economy itself was buried, the West itself is already refusing these Ukrainian authorities. If Poroshenko escapes there, then he will be undressed there as Lazarenko. hi
              In my opinion, not only Crimea was not developed there - there the whole country was only undressed. They told me in Kiev that only under Kuchma there was some rise - gas was resold 2 times more expensive than it was bought, due to which gold reserves appeared - and they just stagnated and did not create any new “growth points”.
            2. dolfi1
              dolfi1 19 June 2018 04: 11
              +1
              What did they invest there? Just pulled from the "subsidized Crimea", everything collapsed.
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    4. Vanek
      Vanek 18 June 2018 15: 15
      +5
      Quote: Heterocapsa
      here and get rid cut all Ukraine


      - Let's bite the boa constrictor's face.

      - No. This is too cruel.

      - Let's bite off the tail of the Boa.

      - Yes! Yes! To the very face. *


      hi
  2. parusnik
    parusnik 18 June 2018 14: 16
    +5
    But it was expressed differently .. I almost wanted to shoot the entire population of Donbass. Look how the views have changed ..
  3. Same lech
    Same lech 18 June 2018 14: 17
    +6
    The brainwave in the political elite of the Kiev regime is in full swing.
    It finally came to them that if the Minsk agreements were fully implemented, then LDNR would become for the Bandera government like a Trojan horse in TROY ... scary.
    Therefore, the idea of ​​rejecting LDNR is not so fantastic for the Maidan horses.
  4. MPN
    MPN 18 June 2018 14: 18
    +5
    Well said so by the way .. everyone knows that ..
    The referendum would allow to solve the problem
    Whose? LDNR? Who recognizes him?
    1. Vadim237
      Vadim237 18 June 2018 15: 50
      +2
      It is necessary to attract our green observers to that referendum.
  5. Fisman
    Fisman 18 June 2018 14: 19
    +5
    he himself had to get rid of himself with Gorbachev and other conspirators ...
    1. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 18 June 2018 15: 11
      +2
      Quote: Fisman
      he himself and Gorbachev and other conspirators had to be disposed of.

      But what about you when you were destroying the country on the couch, and now you’re banging your fists
      1. scientist
        scientist 18 June 2018 16: 17
        +3
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        But what about you when you were destroying the country on the couch, and now you’re banging your fists

        And you remember the referendum of 91 years. See the statistics. 90% voted in favor of preserving the country in all regions of the USSR.
        Then the agreement of the CIS was signed, almost an analogue of the USSR, only the name was changed. Therefore, people calmed down. Only now, after similar scenarios with the Maidan and color revolutions, it becomes clear that all these agreements of the CIS and the CSTO had one single goal: to legitimize the shooting of the Supreme Council building and the military coup of Yeltsin.
        Therefore, the question must be posed more globally. It must be recognized that it was not possible to maintain allied relations in the CIS, therefore all territories must be returned. First of all, those that were distributed by the communists to support the nationalism of the peripheral regions of the Russian Empire.
        Firstly, it will be a true decommunization, or rather its nationalist - Stalinist foundations, which have nothing to do with the principles of social justice "from each according to their ability to each according to their work"!
        Secondly, historical justice must be restored.
        1. assa67
          assa67 18 June 2018 20: 55
          +1
          Quote: scientist
          that it was not possible to maintain allied relations in the CIS, therefore all territories must be returned.

          let me ask, is this how to "return"? ...... war?
          1. scientist
            scientist 18 June 2018 22: 03
            +1
            Quote: assa67

            let me ask, is this how to "return"? ...... war?

            It is only Americans who think at the animal level of wars and genocide.
            For the rest - the human world, the UN Charter has a good clause "On the right of nations to self-determination", which is used by many peoples, not only in Crimea, South Ossetia and Abkhazia, but also in Europe (Kosovo, Catalonia, Ireland, etc. R.). Russia, another country interested in stability at its borders and the elimination of American influence, it is enough to create the conditions for a referendum.
  6. Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 18 June 2018 14: 35
    +7
    Yes, yes ... And do not forget to attribute the entire left bank to Donetsk ... for starters - it will be so normal ...
  7. demo
    demo 18 June 2018 14: 38
    +8
    This is Ukraine, or rather Ukraine, in its current form - a cancerous tumor on the body of the Russian world.
    And metastasis is Kravchuk, Kuchma, Yushchenko, Poroshenko.
  8. K-50
    K-50 18 June 2018 14: 40
    +6
    The first president of Ukraine Leonid Kravchuk: Ukraine is better to abandon the Donbass, as from a cancer tumor.

    Yeah, and also Kharkov, Odessa, Dnepropetrovsk and others, the same Russian cities as part of Urkaina.
    Yes, even the mother of Russian cities, Kiev !!! Yes laughing
    1. Sands Careers General
      Sands Careers General 18 June 2018 14: 48
      +4
      Exactly, let them sit in their galicia and woodland.
      1. Weyland
        Weyland 18 June 2018 16: 02
        0
        Quote: General of the Sand Quarries
        let them sit in their galicia and woodland.

        Nafig we need them in Polesie! Polesie - Poleschuk, and to begin with, let these Bander-logs recognize Poleschuk as a separate nationality!
        1. Sands Careers General
          Sands Careers General 18 June 2018 16: 07
          +1
          For a long time they will have to be picked out from woodland. We are for them "fools."
      2. assa67
        assa67 20 June 2018 22: 24
        +1
        Quote: General of the Sand Quarries
        Exactly, let them sit in their galicia and woodland.

        soldier Moder did not answer what I think ........... the refusal of "copulation" as the powerholders holding dill in the dill agree with Russia, from mazepa to dzhezinsky (I take a long period = but the meaning does not change). ..... the point is = there was no Ukrainian nation either, and there were no moles, and moles were digging the sea laughing
  9. sib.ataman
    sib.ataman 18 June 2018 14: 41
    +4
    Quote: Wend
    The shout of Western solutions.


    This is not a shout, but a stupor! Traitor of the Motherland and Bandera henchman! With an IVS or LIB, the "tower" was definitely waiting for him! And now humanism, liberalism, tolerance and prostitution for everyone and everything!
  10. Royalist
    Royalist 18 June 2018 14: 41
    0
    Curious very curious. Kravchuk fox is still one
  11. alean245
    alean245 18 June 2018 14: 44
    +4
    Leonid Kravchuk: Donbass is a cancer tumor, therefore it is necessary to get rid

    Here is the Separ! smile
  12. The leader of the Redskins
    The leader of the Redskins 18 June 2018 14: 44
    +3
    Who then Kravchuk? Probably hemorrhoids ... We are old-fashioned. It is also necessary to treat.))))
  13. Sands Careers General
    Sands Careers General 18 June 2018 14: 45
    +3
    Just urine is a large cancerous tumor that needs to be treated with electricity.
  14. The Siberian barber
    The Siberian barber 18 June 2018 14: 49
    +2
    For some reason, often, such people very long spoil the Earth, their long stay on it ..
    This type, in the eyes of many, outdid the laurels of his idol Mazepa ..
    The boiler is boiling .. When, already ???
  15. Royalist
    Royalist 18 June 2018 14: 51
    +3
    Quote: parusnik
    But it was expressed differently .. I almost wanted to shoot the entire population of Donbass. Look how the views have changed ..

    And about how such a mess Kravchuk changed his mind. True, he says so cunningly: “Donbass is a cancerous tumor” and if it is taken for a “scruff”, it can include a reverse type: “a cancerous tumor must be excised, but you thought”
  16. solzh
    solzh 18 June 2018 14: 57
    +3
    It is easier for the people of Ukraine to remove a cancer tumor in the form of such gentlemen as Kravchuk and other Bandera
  17. DeusExMachina
    DeusExMachina 18 June 2018 14: 59
    0
    And, another speaker of democracy is broadcasting. Forgive me for being rude, but it’s hard to name all those who were related to the “same” troika otherwise
  18. Imobile
    Imobile 18 June 2018 15: 08
    +1
    It will be very sad for us. It will be necessary to restore the Donbass, and the Donbass themselves will be unhappy with the pace and quality. It will not bring anything positive in the strategic plan. This is not a territory with locks and a land road to the Crimea. Some cons for Russia from joining.
    1. Krev
      Krev 18 June 2018 17: 49
      0
      This is how you managed to pull "x..n to the nose", i.e. to draw such far-reaching conclusions? Where is the non-recognition, and where is the affiliation? There is no question about the second!
  19. NF68
    NF68 18 June 2018 15: 15
    +2
    Get out. A couple more areas will start to rebel.
    1. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 18 June 2018 15: 17
      +1
      Quote: NF68
      . A couple more areas will start to rebel.

      Judging by the rate of population decline in Ukraine, in 10 years, there will simply be no one to rebel
      1. NF68
        NF68 18 June 2018 20: 42
        0
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        Quote: NF68
        . A couple more areas will start to rebel.

        Judging by the rate of population decline in Ukraine, in 10 years, there will simply be no one to rebel


        And this is possible.
  20. Parade
    Parade 18 June 2018 15: 27
    +2
    A cancerous tumor is terry nationalism in Ukraine and an excessive, on the verge of idiocy, desire to curry favor in any way with the West for financial handouts that can be cut, driving the country into eternal bondage ....
  21. Angina
    Angina 18 June 2018 15: 31
    0
    It’s high time to think about Kravchuk’s soul, and not about the Macedonian laurels
    1. The Siberian barber
      The Siberian barber 18 June 2018 15: 56
      0
      You made laugh, right!)))
      The level of consciousness of this person is “imprisoned” for other things: power and money.
      The life path of this individual, this confirms ..
      1. Angina
        Angina 18 June 2018 19: 41
        0
        And suddenly (I believe in fairy tales) smile
  22. mamont5
    mamont5 18 June 2018 15: 42
    0
    Quote: forty-eighth
    Quote: Going
    It seems that they are feeling public opinion, this “knight” himself would not have dared to make such statements.

    Unlikely. He is already a waste material. Who needs it now and how can it be useful? Keep him on a leash to voice an engaged opinion once every 5 years? Hard to believe ...

    That's because no one needs him, and they give him the sound of it.
  23. senima56
    senima56 18 June 2018 15: 56
    +1
    Whose cow would mumble ... From this Mr. everything started in Ukraine!
  24. Weyland
    Weyland 18 June 2018 15: 58
    +2
    in the end (Ukraine) it is better to abandon the Donbass, as a cancerous tumor.
    I remembered:
    Any educated person knows the story of the Exodus of Jews from Egypt. But few know official Egyptian version (voiced by the priest Manethon):
    "The wild tribe of Jews for the wickedness of the gods punished by leprosy. And Pharaoh Merneptah issued a decree exile them from Egypt! "
    In general, "it’s not you who ran away from us - but we kicked you out!" laughing
    And it is easy to guess that in the Roman Empire for a very long time the official version of "cultural civilized Egypt" was believed much more than the version of the "wild, fanatical and ever rebellious Judea" - but only after the triumph of Christianity everything changed dramatically ...
  25. ZVS
    ZVS 18 June 2018 16: 34
    +3
    The cancerous tumor is Ukraine itself, and Donbass is not an infected part of the body. Kravchug slonza confused everything. But the fact that Donbass should be released into free swimming, here he is right.
  26. Phil77
    Phil77 18 June 2018 16: 41
    0
    Yes, no, it’s you, demons, that destroyed the Union, a cancerous tumor! How did you get into power then?!? am
  27. Ratmir_Ryazan
    Ratmir_Ryazan 18 June 2018 17: 12
    0
    Kravchuk himself is a cancerous tumor that killed the USSR ...
  28. PValery53
    PValery53 18 June 2018 17: 15
    0
    Leonid Kravchuk, who imagines himself to be a benign tumor, should not be deceived. He has already degenerated into a "chancellor."
  29. -ш-
    -ш- 18 June 2018 18: 16
    0
    we’ll dump you with joy, bonfireheads
  30. StVahmistr
    StVahmistr 18 June 2018 18: 23
    0
    it is better to abandon the Donbass, as a cancerous tumor.
    Pralo! Cut off nafig, along with healthy tissues, that is, within the boundaries of their areas, Schaub relapse was not. Just in case, you can grab more for reliability.
  31. kefan
    kefan 18 June 2018 18: 23
    0
    So finally leave Donbass alone.
  32. Turist1996
    Turist1996 18 June 2018 20: 39
    0
    That’s what I really respect the Jews for - is for their national unity. It is clear that there are political and historical prerequisites for that ..
    I just can’t imagine anyone like the type and rank of Kravchuk among the Jews ..
    He would have been sentenced to the “tower” even upon coming of age - and that’s the end ..
    And we all chew snot, we play "democracy" ..
  33. faterdom
    faterdom 19 June 2018 00: 10
    0
    It would go already ... Yeltsin is waiting, misses the country of eternal booze.
  34. Bare
    Bare 19 June 2018 09: 32
    0
    Already who would mumble, the first destroyer.
    Each of the presidents of Ukraine could write a gold thread in the history of the state for centuries, like Lee Kuan Yew in the history of Singapore. What do we see? The collapse of statehood and the genocide of the Ukrainian people. Everyone is to blame for this, including Kravchuk, a bastard.
    It is believed that Ukraine’s independence (independence) is simply not tender, they cannot dispose of it. Mentality prevails over everything - greed, deceit and the like.
  35. Igor Levertov
    Igor Levertov 19 June 2018 19: 30
    +1
    A cancerous tumor is the current Outskirts of the Slavic world, a territorial entity governed by state criminals-fascists - Ukrainian Nazis who abandoned the Soviet period in the history of the state of the Ukrainian SSR as part of the working people of the USSR. DNI and LC are healthy sprouts of the new state: the People's Republic of Ukraine, to-ryu, I hope to see in the future, as part of the Russian Federation, as a full-fledged subject, along with several other areas of the Outskirts freed from the fascist cancer tumor. As historical experience has shown, the American project Western project “Ukraine is not Russia” led to the complete collapse of a healthy state organism and the complete failure of the so-called under-state of Ukraine. As the saying goes, do not throw a stone at your neighbor’s house if your house is made of glass.
  36. NG inform
    NG inform 19 June 2018 22: 57
    -2
    He has unionist ideas. The people and territories torn away by Little Russian separatists under the influence of Western propaganda and genocide - should slowly return to their homeland. Let through the war, if there are no other ways, the main thing is that Ukraine as an idea should be destroyed, and if they survive, then outside the Russian world.
    1. Igor Levertov
      Igor Levertov 19 June 2018 23: 22
      0
      I completely agree, but I’m not sure of one thing that the Americans who spent $ 5 billion on this project will simply give Russia such a geopolitically tidbit. Therefore, surgically, only surgically - without options.
    2. Igor Levertov
      Igor Levertov 19 June 2018 23: 46
      0
      In addition, their president and his ilk, and especially the Washington regional committee, do not give a damn about the people, to put it mildly. They, and first of all, the entire Western Anglo-Saxon klopovnik, need a territory, firstly, as a source of various minerals and natural resources, including black earth, and secondly, as a springboard for the deployment of their military bases and all kinds of provocations against Russia in order to restrain its development. Therefore, in a peaceful way, I think, it will not work. But as a result of the DPR and LPR, with the support of Russia, the operation to push the Outskirts to the world (as in Georgia in 2008) is quite real.