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Moldova wants to withdraw the Russian peacekeepers from Transnistria. Tiraspol against

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The Foreign Minister of the Transnistrian Republic, Vitaly Ignatiev, commented on the statement by the Minister of Foreign Affairs and European Integration of Moldova, Tudor Ulyanovsky, about the withdrawal of Russian troops from Transnistria, saying that this decision could not be made without taking into account the opinion of Tiraspol.


Moldova wants to withdraw the Russian peacekeepers from Transnistria. Tiraspol against


Ignatiev said that any decision to change the format of a peacekeeping operation or the withdrawal of some part of this peacekeeping mechanism cannot be made without taking into account the opinion and position of the people of Transnistria, and Tiraspol will never take action that creates a threat to peace and security on the Dniester. He added that in Transnistria, in addition to Russian peacekeepers, there are no other Russian troops. All the statements of Moldova about allegedly supporting the peacekeeping mission in the Transnistrian republic, but without the operational group of Russian troops, which is part of the peacekeeping operation, are simply not objective.

Earlier it was reported that, at the initiative of Moldovan deputies, a draft resolution on the withdrawal of Russian troops from Transnistria was registered in the UN secretariat. The review is scheduled for 22 June 2018.

Recall that Transnistria, 60% of whose inhabitants are Russians and Ukrainians, sought secession from Moldova even before the collapse of the USSR, fearing that Moldova would join Romania in the wake of nationalism. In the 1992 year, after a failed attempt by the Moldovan authorities to solve the problem by force, the unrecognized Transnistrian Moldavian Republic, which was not subordinate to Chisinau, was organized on this territory. On the territory of the republic there is an operative group of Russian troops, the successor of the 14-th combined arms army, which after the collapse of the USSR was transferred to the jurisdiction of Russia, which performs the tasks of the peacekeeping mission and the protection of warehouses left from the 14 army.
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  1. The comment was deleted.
    1. 210ox
      210ox 16 June 2018 12: 19
      +2
      And how it goes? As it was and will be, everything has already been decided there .. And not in our favor ..
      Quote: taiga2018
      in a hurry, not thoughtful, before the parliamentary elections, you never know how everything goes together ...
      1. bouncyhunter
        bouncyhunter 16 June 2018 12: 27
        +5
        If you remove the Russian peacekeepers from Transnistria, then you can forget about the existence of the PMR, IMHO.
        1. tol100v
          tol100v 16 June 2018 12: 40
          +3
          Quote: bouncyhunter
          If Russian peacekeepers are withdrawn from Transnistria, then we can forget about the existence of the PMR

          And if you let 14 vacationers go to the warehouses, you can forget about Romania!
          1. Andrey K
            Andrey K 16 June 2018 12: 55
            +6
            Quote: Tol100v
            ... And if you put into the warehouses of the 14th vacationers, then you can forget about Romania! ...

            Not for that, and I personally took part there, so that the Wishlist of leaders from the right bank of the Dniester were imposed on Tiraspol.
            1. Lelek
              Lelek 16 June 2018 19: 39
              +1
              Quote: Andrey K
              Andrey K

              hi
              Calmly, Andrey Evgenievich, so far these are just someone's Wishlist (bah, how many were there). Ours will stand and will stand, but today:
              1. Andrey K
                Andrey K 16 June 2018 19: 44
                0
                Quote: Lelek
                ... Calm, Andrey Evgenievich, so far these are just someone's Wishlist (bah, how many were there). Our stand and will stand ...

                a lion hi
                I am calm as a lion (sorry for a pun) wink
                Let them train hard in learning - easy in battle good
                1. Lelek
                  Lelek 16 June 2018 19: 45
                  +1
                  Quote: Andrey K
                  I am calm [b] [/ b]

                  Well, here are the goodies. drinks
          2. Normal ok
            Normal ok 16 June 2018 13: 25
            0
            Quote: Tol100v
            And if you let 14 vacationers go to the warehouses, you can forget about Romania!

            The message is clear. Only here in those depots - most of the ammunition has long been in need of disposal.
        2. Andrey K
          Andrey K 16 June 2018 13: 02
          +4
          Quote: bouncyhunter
          ... If you remove the Russian peacekeepers from Transnistria, then you can forget about the existence of the PMR, IMHO ...

          Pash hi
          Still easier.
          Get situevina as 08.08.08.
          According to the 2015 census, there are 475 people in Transnistria, of which 665 thousand are citizens of the Russian Federation.
          We must look at the moron, trying to solve something there by force.
          1. bouncyhunter
            bouncyhunter 16 June 2018 13: 14
            +4
            Well, if there is a Saakashvain in Moldova, then there will certainly be a repetition of 08.08.08/XNUMX/XNUMX. And in fact for the sake of mattresses can crumble ...
            1. Andrey K
              Andrey K 16 June 2018 13: 28
              +4
              Quote: bouncyhunter
              ... Well, if there is a Saakashvain in Moldova, then there will certainly be a repetition of 08.08.08/XNUMX/XNUMX. And in fact for the sake of mattresses can crumble ...

              Pash, there are third mattresses - they rule the Romanians.
              They sleep and see "Greater Romania", they have constant "Bessarabian" phantom visions.
            2. donavi49
              donavi49 16 June 2018 14: 36
              +4
              Not exactly a repetition. For an isolated theater.

              Through whom to break through? Is Romania a NATO country? Which automatically falls under the article on collective defense (if you break through to help).

              Or through Ukraine? Which, although not NATO, but will pull up decently. And you have to go with the battles. Under the howl of the world community, sanctions and the extension of NATO forces in Europe in case of something (which will also distract the force of forces).

              In general, the situation will be much more complicated - if they bring to fights.
        3. Vladimir Shpakov
          Vladimir Shpakov 16 June 2018 13: 26
          -1
          Of course you can and must forget. The main thing is that there will be no killings. This is one people.
      2. DRA-75
        DRA-75 16 June 2018 12: 32
        +4
        Earlier it was reported that, at the initiative of Moldovan deputies, a draft resolution on the withdrawal of Russian troops from Transnistria was registered in the UN secretariat. The review is scheduled for 22 June 2018.

        Well, let them try! This is not Germany and CMEA during the time of Gorbach and EBN ..
        And the date is June 22 (at exactly four in the morning ..)
  2. major147
    major147 16 June 2018 12: 12
    0
    They may want to go to the moon, who forbids them to want?
    1. Lopatov
      Lopatov 16 June 2018 12: 22
      +8
      Well, to be completely honest, international law is on their side. There are no legal norms to stay there OGRV PfRM.
      Well, the peacekeepers based there on the basis of the bilateral "Agreement on the Principles of Bilateral Settlement" are a completely different topic. And by the way, the Moldavians do not need to demand their withdrawal, it is enough to simply withdraw the ratification, and after half a year there will be no peacekeepers.
      1. major147
        major147 16 June 2018 13: 17
        +2
        Who is looking at international law? NATO? EU? USA?
        There is no game where one plays by the rules, and the rest - how they benefit. "To live with wolves, howl like a wolf" (c)
        1. Severski
          Severski 17 June 2018 08: 15
          0
          Only then questions arise: why do Moldovans (Ukrainians, Georgians) do not like Russia, and do not want to be friends with it.
  3. polpot
    polpot 16 June 2018 12: 12
    +2
    They may want anything, for example, to become Saudi Arabia, and Russia will decide it is a fact
    1. Avis-bis
      Avis-bis 16 June 2018 12: 28
      +2
      Quote: polpot
      Russia will decide it is a fact

      Delivery of troops (albeit just for demonstration) is possible only through the territory of these wanting. Without a military conflict, this is impossible. And without troops, these wanting people can realize their Wishlist, they are only afraid of strength. Something to solve here will be difficult for us. Diplomats are no longer quoted, unfortunately.
      1. MPN
        MPN 16 June 2018 12: 46
        +6
        Quote: Avis-bis
        Diplomats are no longer quoted, unfortunately.

        Unfortunately ... :( And it's not a matter of bad diplomats, but of the arrogance of "partners who are all international, and generally universal norms do not set anything ...
        1. Avis-bis
          Avis-bis 16 June 2018 13: 09
          +1
          Quote: MPN
          Quote: Avis-bis
          Diplomats are no longer quoted, unfortunately.

          Unfortunately ... :( And it's not a matter of bad diplomats, but of the arrogance of "partners who are all international, and generally universal norms do not set anything ...

          Yes. And, therefore, it will not be possible to solve the problem without a military presence. And the movement of our troops may be blocked. The situation is either stalemate, or zugzwang.
          Yes, even block our supply of consumer goods ...
      2. polpot
        polpot 16 June 2018 12: 49
        0
        They will quietly promise to cancel the visa-free visa and send the hard workers and immediately peace will come
      3. Andrey K
        Andrey K 16 June 2018 13: 23
        +2
        Quote: Avis-bis
        ... Delivery of troops (albeit just for demonstration) is possible only through the territory of these wanting. Without a military conflict, this is impossible ...

        You are behind the times.
        The operational group of Russian troops in Transnistria is equipped with citizens of the Russian Federation living there, in Transnistria. Troops across the border have not moved for a long time.
        Quote: Avis-bis
        ... Diplomats have not been quoted for a long time, unfortunately ...

        Again not entirely true.
        A few years ago, the consular post of the Russian embassy in Tiraspol began its work. Citizens of an unrecognized republic in a simplified version are issued Russian citizenship.
        Quoted diplomats, even as quoted. They do their job in such a way that the Moldavians are afraid of blathering.
        1. Avis-bis
          Avis-bis 16 June 2018 13: 36
          0
          Quote: Andrey K

          You are behind the times.
          The operational group of Russian troops in Transnistria is equipped with citizens of the Russian Federation living there, in Transnistria.

          Do not understand. Transnistria is not recognized by other states. So the status of military citizens of the Russian Federation living in Transnistria ... well ... is not at all clear. Even for me, who is a supporter of Transnistria and our presence there. How can this be legal?
          citizens of the Russian Federation living there, in Transnistria
          Troops across the border have not moved for a long time.

          I didn’t know, thanks. But to "demonstrate the presence" this may be needed. Local is clearly not enough. We need heavy modern equipment and solid personnel.
          Again not entirely true.
          A few years ago, the consular post of the Russian embassy in Tiraspol began its work. Citizens of an unrecognized republic in a simplified version are issued Russian citizenship.
          Quoted diplomats, even as quoted. They do their job in such a way that the Moldavians are afraid of blathering.

          Would be quoted, no one would listen to the nonsense of Pedroshenko and other cry-mourners. Alas, despite the professionalism of Lavrov, diplomatic methods do not work.
          1. Andrey K
            Andrey K 16 June 2018 13: 45
            0
            Quote: Avis-bis
            ...Do not understand. Transnistria is not recognized by other states. So the status of military citizens of the Russian Federation living in Transnistria ... well ... is not at all clear. Even for me, who is a supporter of Transnistria and our presence there. How can this be legal? citizens of the Russian Federation living there, in Transnistria...

            Citizens of the Russian Federation (local with our passports) - 213 thousand people. That is half the population of Transnistria. There are no difficulties with those who want to serve in the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation. MS of the Russian Federation are equipped with local contract soldiers.
            1. Avis-bis
              Avis-bis 16 June 2018 14: 03
              +1
              Quote: Andrey K

              Citizens of the Russian Federation (local with our passports) - 213 thousand people. That is half the population of Transnistria. There are no difficulties with those who want to serve in the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation. MS of the Russian Federation are equipped with local contract soldiers.

              So ... There is a formal reason to ask: "And what does an armed citizen of the Russian Federation do in the territory that everyone around us considers the territory of Moldova?" “And indeed, why on earth does the Russian Federation issue passports to Moldovan citizens ?!”
              Formally, Transnistria does not exist. Formally, our armed citizens have nothing to do there (peacekeepers are a little different). PMSM, this generally puts the people you mentioned outside the law.
              NB / I would be glad to be mistaken.
              1. Andrey K
                Andrey K 16 June 2018 14: 23
                0
                Quote: Avis-bis
                ... So ... There is a formal reason to ask: "And what does an armed citizen of the Russian Federation do in the territory that everyone around us considers the territory of Moldova?" ...

                It implements the decision on the breeding of the conflicting parties, signed by these parties and guarantor countries Yes
                Quote: Avis-bis
                ... "And indeed, why on earth does the Russian Federation issue passports to Moldovan citizens?!" ...

                Rather, they are citizens of the USSR - they never were citizens of Moldova, they did not accept citizenship, they did not receive passports request
                Quote: Avis-bis
                ... Formally, our armed citizens have nothing to do there (peacekeepers are a little different). PMSM, this generally puts the people you mentioned outside the law.
                NB / I would be glad to be mistaken ...

                Sergey, our MS are part of the RF Armed Forces. Now in the PMR, just over 400 of our peacekeepers. The PMR itself has its own well-packed armed forces.
                In case of conflict or the death of our citizens, they need to hold out for several hours.
                Moldovans are very well aware and aware of this. They cannot beat Transnistria by force. Therefore, they turn to the UN with their dreams.
                1. Avis-bis
                  Avis-bis 16 June 2018 14: 53
                  0
                  Quote: Andrey K
                  Quote: Avis-bis
                  ... So ... There is a formal reason to ask: "And what does an armed citizen of the Russian Federation do in the territory that everyone around us considers the territory of Moldova?" ...

                  It implements the decision on the breeding of the conflicting parties, signed by these parties and guarantor countries Yes

                  "These countries" already wanted to block cargo transportation to / from Transnistria a couple of years ago. I think only problems with LDNR did not allow them. But the situation can change from bad (for, even just such an intention is bad) to worse.
                  Rather, they are citizens of the USSR - they never were citizens of Moldova, they did not accept citizenship, they did not receive passports request

                  This does not change anything. Citizens of the "aggressor country" on the territory of the state, not recognized by anyone of their first players.
                  In case of conflict or the death of our citizens, they need to hold out for several hours.

                  If we manage to complete and, most importantly, deliver them ammunition and equipment. There is nowhere to retreat to them, exchanging distance for time. And how do you order to deliver? Through the airspace of Ukraine or Romania / Moldova under the cover of the Su-35? Well this is howling all over the world, or even NATO fighters, they will have time to take off.
                  1. Andrey K
                    Andrey K 16 June 2018 18: 36
                    +1
                    Quote: Avis-bis
                    ...This does not change anything. Citizens of the "aggressor country" on the territory of the state, not recognized by anyone of their first players ...

                    The "first player" is where we are, the rest are resting.
                    Quote: Avis-bis
                    ... If we manage to complete and, most importantly, deliver them ammunition and equipment ...

                    Everything is in place and equipment and b / c.
                    Quote: Avis-bis
                    ... They have nowhere to retreat, exchanging distance for time. And how do you order to deliver? Through the airspace of Ukraine or Romania / Moldova under the cover of the Su-35? Well this is howling all over the world, and even NATO fighters, they will have time to take off ...

                    Who said retreat !?
                    Where to retreat to people who have lived there for generations. Civilians, Armed Forces of Transnistria, MS of the Russian Federation - all local !!!
                    Their houses, children, graves of their ancestors are there.
                    The question will arise about the protection of our citizens, no one will pay attention to the howl of non-brothers and Europeans.
                    As a participant in the first entry of MS, I can inform you that this already happened. In the midst of fighting, Ukraine did not give "sky" to our aircraft. As a result, ours put a bolt on those who played in independence and threw us into Tiraspol by air, from there on the ground to Dubossary and Bender. Then the railway transportation went.
                    Passed option.
                    1. Avis-bis
                      Avis-bis 16 June 2018 22: 16
                      0
                      Quote: Andrey K

                      The "first player" is where we are, the rest are resting.

                      Times go by, everything changes.
                      Everything is in place and equipment and b / c.

                      Well, let's say ... However, the equipment can live for a long time, but the BC - no.

                      Who said retreat !?
                      Where to retreat to people who have lived there for generations.

                      The story said. The aggressor’s offensive must be answered either with a MLRS strike, and then he will immediately roll back, or retreat until a normal ammunition lift is brought up. History (for example, the beginning of the Second World War) shows that you have to exchange time for a distance. But Transnistria is very narrow and for them this concept is not acceptable.
                      As a participant in the first entry of MS, I can inform you that this already happened. In the midst of fighting, Ukraine did not give "sky" to our aircraft.
                      As a result, ours put a bolt on those who played in independence and transferred us to Tiraspol by air

                      May I have the details? Actually, this is a bellie incident.
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      1. Andrey K
        Andrey K 16 June 2018 13: 36
        +7
        Quote: Vladimir Shpakov
        ... Russia has long been deciding nothing at the international level. She is under sanctions. Don’t be dumb ...

        This is where they presented such incorrect information to you?
        Wit you, as I do not look.
        Rudeness on the site is not encouraged negative
        1. Paranoid50
          Paranoid50 16 June 2018 15: 16
          +2
          Quote: Andrey K
          Rudeness on the site is not encouraged

          hi Andrey, do not pay attention. It has been grazing here since January, throwing feces, and trying to be rude to everyone without exception. In short, it will fall off soon. Yes As for the article, everything fits into the “schedule” - regularly, once every half a year, the Moldavians get another kick from the novel and begin to create a fuss about the PMR. Well, let's see what this time.
          1. Andrey K
            Andrey K 16 June 2018 18: 39
            +1
            Quote: Paranoid50
            ... It has been grazing here since January, throwing feces, and trying to be rude to everyone, without exception. In short, it will fall off soon. Yes As for the article, everything fits into the “schedule” - regularly, once every half a year, the Moldavians get another kick from the novel and begin to create a fuss about the PMR. Well, let’s see that this time ...

            Alexander hi
            In Russia, it is customary to pull over the presumptuous, and forgive the wise and poor.
            As for the Moldavian bustle and the reasons for this mover - I agree with you.
  4. tagil
    tagil 16 June 2018 12: 14
    0
    Moldova wants !!! Moldova may want the moon from heaven according to the moon as it was in heaven and will remain. These Wishlist are at odds with the political weight of Moldova itself.
  5. bald
    bald 16 June 2018 12: 20
    +2
    June 22nd - as specially. And the UN proved itself to be “good” (content and action).
    1. lis-ik
      lis-ik 16 June 2018 13: 07
      +4
      Quote: bald
      June 22nd - as specially. And the UN proved itself to be “good” (content and action).

      It’s a little off topic, but I recently read that it was not recommended in the Russian Federation to joke about the Second World War in memos for World Cup guests from abroad.
      1. bald
        bald 16 June 2018 13: 12
        +2
        But really, and the police would not have saved.
      2. Avis-bis
        Avis-bis 16 June 2018 13: 40
        +1
        Quote: lis-ik
        Quote: bald
        June 22nd - as specially. And the UN proved itself to be “good” (content and action).

        It’s a little off topic, but I recently read that it was not recommended in the Russian Federation to joke about the Second World War in memos for World Cup guests from abroad.

        On the subject of WWII - let them joke. But on the subject of the Second World War - to hell with them ... This is completely different.
  6. andron-30
    andron-30 16 June 2018 12: 32
    +2
    This is how Moldovans are trying to quietly "peacefully" make into Romanians, and who asked Moldovans do you want that? not to be Romanians, Romania is a motherland or an evil mother, remember that.
    1. askort154
      askort154 16 June 2018 12: 39
      +2
      ...statement by the Minister of Foreign Affairs and European Integration of Moldova Tudor Ulyanovsky on the withdrawal of Russian troops from Transnistria, ...


      Vladimir Ilyich, look at what your illegitimate descendants do. negative


    2. Avis-bis
      Avis-bis 16 June 2018 13: 41
      +2
      Quote: andron-30
      This is how Moldovans are trying to quietly "peacefully" make into Romanians, and who asked Moldovans do you want that?

      But do Moldovans do not consider themselves Romanians? This is a serious question. We bit off a lot of ethnic Romania, and the Moldovans themselves want to go to Romania, as I understand it.
      1. Paranoid50
        Paranoid50 16 June 2018 15: 23
        +2
        Quote: Avis-bis
        But do Moldovans do not consider themselves Romanians?

        laughing Always amused this moment. People with a long history are trying to push into an artificial education, which barely passed a century and a half. The Romania project is, in part, the same as the Ukraine project.
        Quote: Avis-bis
        and Moldovans themselves want to go to Romania, as I understand it.

        Moldavians (like any people) want to live and work quietly. A bunch of huckster renegades and frostbitten Natsik pulls the Moldovan people into the "Euro-paradise" through the Romanian gate.
        1. Avis-bis
          Avis-bis 16 June 2018 15: 49
          0
          Well, maybe...
          But we really joined Bessarabia to Moldova. But ethnic borders exist only on maps, transitions between nations are blurred. So, I don’t see anything funny in the fact that Moldovans consider themselves Romanians. This is the same as trying to draw a border between Russians and Ukrainians in the RND, Krasnodar Territory or the Kharkiv region.
          1. Paranoid50
            Paranoid50 16 June 2018 16: 29
            +1
            Quote: Avis-bis
            So, I don’t see anything funny in the fact that Moldovans consider themselves Romanians

            Well, here you need to cry. Yes
            Quote: Avis-bis
            we really joined Bessarabia to Moldova.

            It all started two hundred years earlier than 1940. And yes, the Sovereigns of Moldavia and Wallachian then could not even think that in a hundred to one hundred and fifty years a misunderstanding called Romania would appear.
        2. Severski
          Severski 17 June 2018 08: 26
          0
          What about Bavaria or Sicily? States with centuries-old histories are also stuffed into artificial formations like Germany and Italy. It was the Moldovans who initiated the formation of Romania. In fact, one people.
          And as far as I know, there are no Nazis in Moldova.
  7. sabakina
    sabakina 16 June 2018 13: 05
    +3
    The consideration of the issue is scheduled for June 22, 2018.
    No, all the same, there is something sacred on this date, and for some reason this sacred is connected with Russia ... winked An hour, they will not consider at 4:00 Moscow time?
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    1. Avis-bis
      Avis-bis 16 June 2018 13: 26
      +2
      Quote: andron-30
      thousands. TENS THOUSAND will be simply destroyed on a national basis

      Hundreds of thousands. ~ 500 thousand live in Transnistria. person; at the same time, there are approximately equal numbers of Russians / Ukrainians / Moldavians.
      And West Europe has (even literally) been around five years old
  9. Evil 55
    Evil 55 16 June 2018 14: 31
    0
    The Wishlist has not yet grown ... I can’t count on the length of my tongue for a lot ..
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  11. mumhe
    mumhe 16 June 2018 20: 22
    +1
    In the next 2-3 years, the issue of the withdrawal of Russian troops will be finally decided. Maybe not completely, 90 percent. Perhaps it will be a peacekeeping mission, although the purpose of this is not entirely clear in the complete absence of military operations and an armed hotbed of conflict. After the development of a mechanism for the export of warehouses in Ukraine, everything will happen literally within six months.
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  13. Hikaro
    Hikaro 17 June 2018 09: 45
    +1
    Well, as I look comrade from Israel everything is already known wink And what will be deduced and who will stay, well, just a new Wang on the site laughing It is not known what Comrade Trump will throw out tomorrow, and how the world will survive the trade war between the USA and China! So no one will reconsider the status of the PMR and Russian MS in the near future, just as they stood there and guarded, they will continue! And believe the rest of the world, soon it will be completely not up to Moldova, Romania and the PMR!