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Spade offered to dig a canal and make the Crimea an island

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Former Chief of the General Staff of the Armed Forces of Ukraine and the former First Deputy Minister of Defense of the country Anatoly Lopata proposed to turn the Crimean Peninsula into an island. He said that Ukraine should dig a canal on its territory and cut off the Crimea from the mainland.


Spade offered to dig a canal and make the Crimea an island


In an interview with the Observer, Lopata noted that Russia currently dominates the waters of the Crimean waters, and in order to deal with this, it is necessary to dig a canal with a width of at least 100 meters and a depth that allows large vessels to pass. This will be the territory of Ukraine and under the control of Ukraine, and Russia will not go there, he said. Thus, Ukraine will cut off the Crimea from the mainland and make it an island, allowing it to pass directly to its ships without entering the Strait of Kerch, while adding that he really likes this idea.

In principle, the idea of ​​the Spade (what a talking surname!) Is not new, before it was proposed to connect the Black and Azov Seas through the canal on the Perekop isthmus connecting the peninsula to the mainland, so that Ukrainian ships would not pass through the Kerch Strait, but go straight. Even the project was developed by the company "Ukrhydroproject" to implement this idea. According to the plans, the length of the channel will be about 120 kilometers, it will pass through Perekop, Chongarsky Bay, Sivash and Arabatskaya arrow. Excavations are planned for 20 kilometers. Provides for deepening the channel to 15 meters, expanding to hundreds of meters.

The head of the Public Chamber of Crimea, Grigory Ioffe, called this proposal of Ukrainian specialists a “fantastic idea” and suggested that they fly to Mars first in order to familiarize themselves with the Martian channels and then proceed to the project.
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  1. Logall
    Logall 15 June 2018 17: 36
    +10
    ex-first deputy defense minister of the country Anatoly Lopata proposed to turn the Crimean peninsula into an island.
    Not, well, is it true? No, well, we heard different things, but digging in order to separate the Crimea is the summit! This is the level!
    Even, let’s say, this is realizable, but you need to dig on your territory ... Are you ready to cut off the part of the “Independent”, so that?
    1. himRa
      himRa 15 June 2018 17: 38
      +8
      Quote: Logall
      ex-first deputy defense minister of the country Anatoly Lopata proposed to turn the Crimean peninsula into an island.

      Well, I think ... not .. I'm sure they will succeed !!!
      1. Zubr
        Zubr 15 June 2018 17: 49
        +26
        Well, they managed to dig that black sea .. =))))
        1. bouncyhunter
          bouncyhunter 15 June 2018 17: 54
          +17
          Exactly ! And then just some kind of channel - garbage! wassat Only let the first promised Belarusian sea be opened, otherwise the sixth fleet of mattresses is worried. lol
          1. The comment was deleted.
            1. bouncyhunter
              bouncyhunter 15 June 2018 20: 44
              +5
              So a zealous man always cares about himself, Yura. bully
              Quote: Major Yurik
              let the sea dig towards Poland

              For me, so let the sea occupy all of Poland and the Troebaltics - there will be less stench. Only the Suvalki corridor must be left to get to Kaliningrad by land in order to. lol
            2. Alf
              Alf 15 June 2018 22: 14
              +2
              Quote: Major Yurik
              will be an island (bad luck)!

              "What they do not, do not go."
        2. Baloo
          Baloo 15 June 2018 21: 36
          +1
          Quote: Zubr
          The head of the Public Chamber of Crimea, Grigory Ioffe, called this proposal of Ukrainian specialists a “fantastic idea” and suggested that they fly to Mars first in order to familiarize themselves with the Martian channels and then proceed to the project.

          After returning from Mars, give the Shovel a shovel and let it dig. lol
          Quote: Zubr
          Well, they managed to dig a black sea.
          laughing
        3. Lelek
          Lelek 16 June 2018 20: 03
          0
          Quote: Zubr
          Well, they managed to dig that black sea ..

          hi
          In this case, Azov lose:
      2. Alex 2016
        Alex 2016 15 June 2018 17: 57
        +6
        Of course it will! They dug up the Black Sea, and then a canal! Yes, at the current level of technology and imbitsilov .. oh, masters, not a problem at all. laughing
        1. DMB_95
          DMB_95 15 June 2018 19: 24
          +2
          Quote: Alex 2016
          They dug up the Black Sea, and then a canal! Yes, at the current level of technology and imbeciles ..

          Maybe this is the main goal of digging the channel - to take some sort of business surpluses of these same imitsy ... the most patriotic advanced citizens, until they arranged another Maidan.
        2. Baloo
          Baloo 15 June 2018 21: 39
          +1
          Quote: Alex 2016
          Of course it will! They dug up the Black Sea, and then a canal! Yes, at the current level of technology and imbitsilov .. oh, masters, not a problem at all. laughing

          To put Yaytsenyukha as the main digger, he has experience. True, there is not enough money again. I began to suspect that behind the shovel again beggar. This is a new way of weaning and cutting money from the IMF. Type channel for the passage of the American aircraft carrier.
      3. 210ox
        210ox 15 June 2018 18: 01
        +2
        Yes, a shovel to help them .. There is experience, and it’s “real”, and not some props from Mosfilm ..
        Quote: himRa
        Quote: Logall
        ex-first deputy defense minister of the country Anatoly Lopata proposed to turn the Crimean peninsula into an island.

        Well, I think ... not .. I'm sure they will succeed !!!
      4. major147
        major147 15 June 2018 18: 19
        +4
        [quote = himRa] [quote = Logall] [quote] ex-first deputy defense minister of the country Anatoly Lopata

        What else could he offer !?
        1. hrych
          hrych 15 June 2018 21: 31
          +3
          Quote: major147
          What else could he offer !?

          There is still need to figure out what kind of shovel laughing bayonet or shovel wassat
          1. dogens
            dogens 16 June 2018 00: 58
            +3
            Quote: hrych
            Quote: major147
            What else could he offer !?

            There is still need to figure out what kind of shovel laughing bayonet or shovel wassat

            Bayonet He can’t be a soviet; in the country of decommunization, he would have torn the minister to pieces.
            1. hrych
              hrych 16 June 2018 10: 01
              +1
              We looked, looked - thought bayonet, looked scoop - scoop laughing They also squealed demolished the monuments to the emperors, then to Stalin at the time of the Khrushchev, now they began to work on Lenin. Scoops - they are the essence. After all, there is no honor to Lenin’s monuments in Russia now, but for the sake of peace in society they are not touched, like the mummy. And rightly so, the generation of victors in the war is almost leaving, the generation of communists is ending, and less than 10% will soon vote for the Communist Party. Thank God, Russia received immunity to Bolshevism and liberalism (which will prove to be the same Bolshevism, moreover, hereditary, all liberals turned out to be grandchildren of members of the AUCPB). And maydanut, believe me, the essence of the Bolsheviks is, give directions to Mankurts, at least Nazism, at least Bolshevism, at least liberalism, at least Satanism, at least Islamism, at least to demolish monuments, walk in columns with banners, and end the bloody murder of people. We keep farther from isms and build a normal society, the main thing is that the Medvedev clique does not push its antisocial laws, because it is fraught with a social explosion and the Supreme Crimea will be forgotten, and the deprivation of pensions will be remembered and cursed.
    2. siberalt
      siberalt 15 June 2018 17: 41
      +1
      And how is he going to dig Sivash, or is Perekop not enough for him? belay
      1. MPN
        MPN 15 June 2018 17: 51
        +10
        Quote: siberalt
        And how is he going to dig Sivash, or is Perekop not enough for him? belay

        For some reason, I looked at the map for a long time, and did not drive into his project ... Sadly, dumber Ukraine became ... crying
      2. Pirogov
        Pirogov 15 June 2018 18: 57
        +5
        Quote: siberalt
        And how is he going to dig Sivash, or is Perekop not enough for him?

        Crazy sea knee-deep.
      3. 210ox
        210ox 15 June 2018 19: 57
        +1
        By and large, this is possible. But that's why? Schaub Bulo?
        Quote: siberalt
        And how is he going to dig Sivash, or is Perekop not enough for him? belay
    3. san4es
      san4es 15 June 2018 17: 41
      +5
      Quote: Logall
      ... to dig, in order to separate the Crimea - this is the peak!
      1. himRa
        himRa 15 June 2018 17: 44
        +4
        wassat
        What .. what am I saying ... drinks
        wassat
        After all the weekly worries and relax is not a sin good
        Shovel understands it!
    4. mishaia_23
      mishaia_23 15 June 2018 17: 46
      +1
      ... But to dig, in order to separate the Crimea ...
      Great Ukrainians drew out the Black Sea, and then just a strait 100 meters wide
    5. tol100v
      tol100v 15 June 2018 18: 07
      +5
      Quote: Logall
      This is the level!

      And since Dill is a "leading" space power, then
      they will soon appear "rabbi in the sky!" Led Zeppelin didn’t stand near!
      1. Igor V
        Igor V 15 June 2018 21: 44
        +1
        Quote: Tol100v
        Quote: Logall
        This is the level!

        And since Dill is a "leading" space power, then
        they will soon appear "rabbi in the sky!" Led Zeppelin didn’t stand near!

        Too shy to ask, judging by Led Zeppelin, is Drabby a ladder? what
        1. Major Yurik
          Major Yurik 15 June 2018 21: 59
          +3
          Too shy to ask, judging by Led Zeppelin, is Drabby a ladder?

          Eh, youth, they had such a cool disk, but Zips in general .... crying
    6. Phil77
      Phil77 15 June 2018 18: 40
      +2
      Quote: Logall
      ex-first deputy defense minister of the country Anatoly Lopata proposed to turn the Crimean peninsula into an island.
      Not, well, is it true? No, well, we heard different things, but digging in order to separate the Crimea is the summit! This is the level!
      Even, let’s say, this is realizable, but you need to dig on your territory ... Are you ready to cut off the part of the “Independent”, so that?

      Here’s a fun country, this Ukraine! Not a day without some kind of awesome idea! Therefore, I suggest they rename the country in honor of their main character into Bandera! Otherwise, the name is too Russian-Ukraine, than it looks like the outskirts. hi
      1. sso-xnumx
        sso-xnumx 15 June 2018 19: 31
        +1
        No, better "banderland" .....
        1. Phil77
          Phil77 15 June 2018 19: 45
          0
          Quote: sso-250659
          No, better "banderland" .....

          You can’t! This is already a German sound! They’re dozens of independent ones !!! smile
      2. Baloo
        Baloo 15 June 2018 21: 41
        +2
        Quote: Phil77
        Here is a cheerful country, this Ukraine!

        If LDNR is left alone, let them dig.
    7. Mikado
      Mikado 15 June 2018 20: 23
      +5
      Spade offered to dig a canal and make the Crimea an island

      Shovel suggested that THEM dug a canal. fellow such a patriotism! wassat Eeeee, laugh after last name "Shovel"! stop drinks
      1. cost
        cost 15 June 2018 21: 34
        +6
        some build bridges, others dig ditches.
        1. Mikado
          Mikado 15 June 2018 23: 00
          +2
          at exactly Dmitry. To each his own, according to his mind .. request
    8. prapor55
      prapor55 16 June 2018 19: 14
      +1
      Yes, let them dig just so that they don’t jump, and so almost half of the country opens up, and physical labor, as the old man Darwin argued, made a man of a monkey a real chance to test the theory of evolution
  2. bubalik
    bubalik 15 June 2018 17: 38
    +4
    ,, again news about Ukraine (Crimea) \ Syria recourse , at the moment more significant news what ,, for example, what is happening in Russia ... no? belay
    1. himRa
      himRa 15 June 2018 17: 40
      +7
      Quote: bubalik
      ,, again news about Ukraine recourse , at the moment more significant news what ,, for example, what is happening in Russia ... no? belay

      Well ... why? Why do you need news on Friday about Russia !!!
      Think again ... laughing
      1. bubalik
        bubalik 15 June 2018 17: 47
        +1
        here ... why? why do you need news on Friday about Russia !!!
        ,, laughing yeah friday, "mudial" ,,, what a distraction winked ,, heavy hangover would not be what
        1. himRa
          himRa 15 June 2018 18: 04
          +2
          Quote: bubalik
          here ... why? why do you need news on Friday about Russia !!!
          ,, laughing yeah friday, "mudial" ,,, what a distraction winked ,, heavy hangover would not be what

          And on Saturday in a bathhouse and removes all worries as if by hand!
          Not for nothing that our ancestors lived like that !? hi
        2. Mordvin 3
          Mordvin 3 15 June 2018 18: 33
          +1
          Quote: bubalik
          yeah friday, mudial

          I look in the drawer and see full of empty seats in the stadium ... And this is in St. Petersburg ... sad
          1. Paranoid50
            Paranoid50 15 June 2018 21: 27
            +2
            Quote: Mordvin 3
            and I see full of empty seats in the stadium ... And this is in St. Petersburg ...

            Actually, today we had a record for attendance - 62548 (with a capacity for 68000 at the World Cup). This is more than last year at the match KK Germany-Chile (57200). And you need to consider which match was today (Morocco-Iran). Yes, at any World Cup, not every match collects a full house.
        3. Major Yurik
          Major Yurik 16 June 2018 00: 40
          +2
          Quote: bubalik
          here ... why? why do you need news on Friday about Russia !!!
          ,, laughing yeah friday, "mudial" ,,, what a distraction winked ,, heavy hangover would not be what

          Yes, and in general we will all die soon ...: !!!!!! crying
          1. himRa
            himRa 16 June 2018 04: 09
            +2
            Quote: Major Yurik
            Yes, and in general we will all die soon ...: !!!!!!

            How so !!! cannot be!
            Compared to this news, the possible loss of our team is ... ugh ... (I am silent about other news)
            Not ... whatever you want, but I'm going to live forever wassat
            in secret: there are rumors that one of the people managed to deceive fate ... wink
      2. 210ox
        210ox 15 June 2018 18: 43
        +5
        The news about Russia was yesterday .. And not joyful .. I'm not talking about football ..
        Quote: himRa
        Quote: bubalik
        ,, again news about Ukraine recourse , at the moment more significant news what ,, for example, what is happening in Russia ... no? belay

        Well ... why? Why do you need news on Friday about Russia !!!
        Think again ... laughing
      3. Phil77
        Phil77 15 June 2018 19: 54
        +2
        Quote: himRa
        Quote: bubalik
        ,, again news about Ukraine recourse , at the moment more significant news what ,, for example, what is happening in Russia ... no? belay

        Well ... why? Why do you need news on Friday about Russia !!!
        Think again ... laughing

        Bravo! Especially about Friday! Sit and drink beer, or Che stronger. Problems on Monday! I agree! hi
      4. Baloo
        Baloo 15 June 2018 21: 43
        +1
        Quote: himRa
        Quote: bubalik
        ,, again news about Ukraine recourse , at the moment more significant news what ,, for example, what is happening in Russia ... no? belay

        Well ... why? Why do you need news on Friday about Russia !!!
        Think again ... laughing

        Exactly, the nursery. And on Monday we’ll take care of business, and while the guys are walking, 5: 0, cheers! Uruguayans still have to win.
    2. KLV2018
      KLV2018 15 June 2018 17: 43
      +1
      Quote: bubalik
      ,, again the news about Ukraine (Crimea) recourse , at the moment more significant news what ,, for example, what is happening in Russia ... no? belay

      Well, do not write about serious water problems in the north of Crimea. not patriotic.
      1. himRa
        himRa 15 June 2018 17: 47
        +7
        Uhhh ... isn't it because of your flag a wise guy !!?
      2. Logall
        Logall 15 June 2018 17: 48
        +6
        Quote: KLV2018
        serious problems with water in the north of Crimea

        Can you give more details? Honestly - interesting! They don’t tell us about it ...
        1. KLV2018
          KLV2018 15 June 2018 17: 56
          +1
          to start.
          https://primechaniya.ru/home/news/yanvar_2018/aks
          enov_priznal_katastrofu_s_vodoj_na_severe_kryma /
          https://primechaniya.ru/home/news/sentyabr_2016/k
          rym_zhdet_massovoe_pereselenie /
          look better in google, it will be more objective.
      3. Ovsen
        Ovsen 15 June 2018 17: 51
        +9
        Quote: KLV2018
        Well, do not write about serious water problems in the north of Crimea.

        And why did they arise? Are these the most serious water problems in the north of Crimea? Do not remind forum users. AND?:
        1. KLV2018
          KLV2018 15 June 2018 18: 32
          +1
          Quote: Lamb
          Quote: KLV2018
          Well, do not write about serious water problems in the north of Crimea.

          And why did they arise? Are these the most serious water problems in the north of Crimea? Do not remind forum users. AND?:

          Ukraine blocked the canal, but they did not come up with a replacement for 4 years.
          Crimean Titan is actively pumping groundwater.
          and they don’t allow you to strain the Ukrainian owner of the oligarch Firtash on the desalination plant.
          1. Ovsen
            Ovsen 15 June 2018 20: 02
            +9
            Quote: KLV2018
            a replacement for 4 years was never invented.

            Well, in fairness, for 4 years -
            Crimea provided power
            a bridge to the main land was built.
            highways build and repair
            airport in Simferopol (new terminal) built.
            Of course, I’m not a supporter of Medvedev, but again, in fairness, is he old Khottabych, is that all at once?
            Temporarily the issue with water supply is resolved, albeit poorly and not completely.
            Moscow, too, it was not built immediately.
            And according to Firtash. Explain where does the Ukrainian oligarch and the Russian Crimea?
            1. KLV2018
              KLV2018 15 June 2018 20: 54
              -1
              Quote: Lamb
              Quote: KLV2018
              a replacement for 4 years was never invented.

              Well, in fairness, for 4 years -
              Crimea provided power
              a bridge to the main land was built.
              highways build and repair
              airport in Simferopol (new terminal) built.
              Of course, I’m not a supporter of Medvedev, but again, in fairness, is he old Khottabych, is that all at once?
              Temporarily the issue with water supply is resolved, albeit poorly and not completely.
              Moscow, too, it was not built immediately.
              And according to Firtash. Explain where does the Ukrainian oligarch and the Russian Crimea?

              Firtash is the owner of the Crimean Titan.
              1. Ovsen
                Ovsen 15 June 2018 21: 09
                +7
                Quote: KLV2018
                Firtash is the owner of the Crimean Titan.

                and........
                The next stage, stipulated by the federal target program, should be the extension of the constructed water intakes to Kerch. The work is planned to be completed by 2020, the head of Crimea Sergey Aksenov said earlier.

                Meanwhile, the tasks of "quenching thirst" are being solved not only in the east of the peninsula. The other day, Deputy Minister of Industrial Policy of Crimea Boris Kabakov announced a project to build a station for desalination of sea water in the northern part of the republic.

                It is, first of all, about industrial water for industrial needs. The estimated cost of the project is about 40 billion rubles. The main sponsor is the Crimean Titan plant - one of the main city-forming enterprises in the north of the peninsula.[i] [/ i] In addition, part of the funds should be allocated by the Development Corporation of the Republic of Crimea and the Fund for the Development of Single-Industry Towns, reports "Kryminform" ....
                Source: https://politexpert.net/35099-voda-ne-problema-v-
                krymu-zapuskayut-novye-opresnitelnye-proekty

                ??????????????? request
                1. KLV2018
                  KLV2018 15 June 2018 23: 19
                  -1
                  Quote: Lamb
                  Quote: KLV2018
                  Firtash is the owner of the Crimean Titan.

                  and........
                  The next stage, stipulated by the federal target program, should be the extension of the constructed water intakes to Kerch. The work is planned to be completed by 2020, the head of Crimea Sergey Aksenov said earlier.

                  Meanwhile, the tasks of "quenching thirst" are being solved not only in the east of the peninsula. The other day, Deputy Minister of Industrial Policy of Crimea Boris Kabakov announced a project to build a station for desalination of sea water in the northern part of the republic.

                  It is, first of all, about industrial water for industrial needs. The estimated cost of the project is about 40 billion rubles. The main sponsor is the Crimean Titan plant - one of the main city-forming enterprises in the north of the peninsula.[i] [/ i] In addition, part of the funds should be allocated by the Development Corporation of the Republic of Crimea and the Fund for the Development of Single-Industry Towns, reports "Kryminform" ....
                  Source: https://politexpert.net/35099-voda-ne-problema-v-
                  krymu-zapuskayut-novye-opresnitelnye-proekty

                  ??????????????? request

                  it was smooth on paper.
                  if you count all the projects and promises in the Crimea, then in five years there should be like in a fairy tale.
        2. Black sniper
          Black sniper 15 June 2018 18: 43
          +4
          There is no problem with water in the Crimea, it was decided in the 17th.
          1. KLV2018
            KLV2018 15 June 2018 18: 47
            +1
            Quote: Black Sniper
            There is no problem with water in the Crimea, it was decided in the 17th.

            Can you give more details. I’ll tell friends from Krasnoperekopsk.
          2. marshes
            marshes 15 June 2018 18: 55
            +2
            Quote: Black Sniper
            There is no problem with water in the Crimea, it was decided in the 17th.

            Serge, countryman, tell me how you decided with water.
            There is water on schedule, if not, then do not star.
          3. Phil77
            Phil77 15 June 2018 19: 47
            +1
            Unscramble, comrade !? especially about 17 years?
          4. Phil77
            Phil77 15 June 2018 20: 05
            +1
            Quote: Black Sniper
            There is no problem with water in the Crimea, it was decided in the 17th.

            So, what’s wrong with 1917? Explain, otherwise I clearly don’t own the information ?!
      4. kotvov
        kotvov 15 June 2018 18: 54
        +5
        with water in the north of Crimea. not patriotic. ,,
        have you already drunk it? don’t relax, sharpen your spade and help you with a spade.
    3. forester
      forester 15 June 2018 17: 58
      +2
      Turn off the computer and go outside, drink some beer, look around, listen to people and you'll know what is happening in Russia hi
      1. bubalik
        bubalik 15 June 2018 18: 03
        0
        go outside, have a beer, have a drink, look around, listen to people and you will know what is happening in Russia
        ,, I would like to, but

        ,, nowhere to squeeze request
        1. marshes
          marshes 15 June 2018 18: 04
          +2
          Quote: bubalik
          ,, nowhere to squeeze

          Join now!
          1. bubalik
            bubalik 15 June 2018 18: 19
            +2
            ,,, hi Now you know about the Kazakhs, I have only positive emotions, in school, on the street, in the army ,,, yes, and for the given day, what do I tell him about others, Samara hi
            1. marshes
              marshes 15 June 2018 18: 25
              +3
              Quote: bubalik
              Now you know about the Kazakhs, I have only positive emotions, in school, on the street, in the army ,,, yes, and for the given day, what do I tell him about others, Samara

              Just don’t be stupid, everything is regulated in strictly reserved places. No one bothers anyone.
              But the neighbors in the central square, it’s in the order of things. For they’re the most, the closest allies, I heard from your government officials that we were sold to the Americans, before that the Chinese and Saudis were with the Turks.
            2. Baloo
              Baloo 15 June 2018 21: 47
              +1
              Quote: bubalik
              ,,, hi Now you know about the Kazakhs, I have only positive emotions, in school, on the street, in the army ,,, yes, and for the given day, what do I tell him about others, Samara hi

              Yes, I was once in a Samara mosque, for some reason there are more Asians, the Caucasus, Arabs, Turks and Negroes. Tatars are almost invisible.
        2. Shahno
          Shahno 15 June 2018 18: 17
          +1
          Good picture. "Our answer to Chamberlain":

          The oath of recruits on the Torah. June 2018.
          1. A good one
            A good one 15 June 2018 19: 52
            +5
            And what is looking at night?
            1. Baloo
              Baloo 16 June 2018 21: 40
              +1
              Quote: Not bad
              And what is looking at night?

              Shy.
      2. Phil77
        Phil77 15 June 2018 20: 08
        +1
        Quote: forester
        Turn off the computer and go outside, drink some beer, look around, listen to people and you'll know what is happening in Russia hi
        As for the beer, the thought is good! And about the events in Russia, one mate! And that's all to the government and the guarantor!
    4. Phil77
      Phil77 15 June 2018 19: 01
      +1
      Quote: bubalik
      ,, again news about Ukraine (Crimea) \ Syria recourse , at the moment more significant news what ,, for example, what is happening in Russia ... no? belay

      Well today is like Friday, you can seriously postpone it to Monday. Moreover, we can’t change anything? Do you agree? hi
    5. Mikado
      Mikado 15 June 2018 20: 25
      +2
      for example, what is happening in Russia ... no?

      Sergey, why doesn’t it happen? in connection with the latter "boosts"I almost became a communist! fellow drinks now, we’ll just put the Mausers on their bare ass .. angry
      1. Phil77
        Phil77 15 June 2018 20: 49
        +1
        Quote: Mikado
        for example, what is happening in Russia ... no?

        Sergey, why doesn’t it happen? in connection with the latter "boosts"I almost became a communist! fellow drinks now, we’ll just put the Mausers on their bare ass .. angry

        Where to get the "Mauser" a rare thing! Give an address! As for the bare backsides, you don’t need to look for x, after the reforms there will be a lot of them.
        1. Mikado
          Mikado 15 June 2018 20: 52
          +1
          FIG knows. I would know, he said. request damn .. I have always been against any "marches" and other things. soldier Categorically!
          a strange feeling in himself has appeared lately ... what especially how I looked at the price tag at the gas station .. angry
          1. Phil77
            Phil77 15 June 2018 21: 11
            +1
            So I’m not a supporter. I’m just starting to get tired! At work I have to do something that I’m not supposed to do at all. And you try to blather, write a statement, and who I need is 55 years old. So I dare not to assure you all smoothly in Moscow . as some write! am
            1. prapor55
              prapor55 16 June 2018 19: 23
              +1
              Yes, not only in Moscow, the country is not okay.
      2. bubalik
        bubalik 15 June 2018 21: 18
        +1
        Mauzers only put on bare ass.
        ,, Nicholas, who are we, and stayed? ,, order people ,,,, request,, an order is an order to stop ,, Yes
        1. Mikado
          Mikado 15 June 2018 23: 22
          +2
          order is order ... soldier
          Sergey, we are of the same blood. I myself hate drunken crowds at the “championships” and “pissing boys” during public events. Enough, served, heard a lot of degenerates. soldier Now they have raised their salaries, I once served for a penny, half-nights I was hacked by a security guard. You know that. request So ... Although I am an individualist now, I believe that people are the main thing. soldier And what is being done now is a spit in the face of a grateful and hopeful audience. So - you can’t, Sergey! soldier I have no words.. negative
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          1. bubalik
            bubalik 16 June 2018 17: 17
            +1
            ,,, Nikolai, golden words ,, good
            1. Mikado
              Mikado 16 June 2018 18: 12
              +2
              will live! drinks
  3. polpot
    polpot 15 June 2018 17: 39
    +2
    We were born to make dust a fairy tale is their new slogan
  4. alstr
    alstr 15 June 2018 17: 41
    +8
    Hmm. And it will turn out like a fence. It seems that they have not yet been built, only there are separate indicative hundred meters. And the budget was cut .....
    1. Phil77
      Phil77 15 June 2018 20: 18
      +2
      Quote: alstr
      Hmm. And it will turn out like a fence. It seems that they have not yet been built, only there are separate indicative hundred meters. And the budget was cut .....

      Dig! From here, from my boot to dinner! Forward, fighters! soldier
  5. military pensioner
    military pensioner 15 June 2018 17: 42
    +4
    But dug up laughing
    After all, the Black Sea was dug up with spoons, judging by the Khokhlyatsk "historical sources" laughing
    1. avt
      avt 15 June 2018 18: 02
      +4
      Quote: military pensioner
      But dug up

      what Well, if only to them, well, Shovel. They will stand in line and dig them.
      Quote: Yak28
      Again about the mentally ill

      You know, this is not a joke at all! There, during the revelry of quite totalitarian sects of various spills from Protestant and pseudo-Christian to neo-pagans, the roof really fell off in large numbers. And multiplied by the efforts of the Svidomo media, the mentally ill people rule. Jokingly, but breaking up there will be massive and not childish. Almost like the Strugatsky’s, Inhabited Island request Remember how there Maka Tsvigun walked with roommate Krivonogov. And there, they appeared "staged by" Maria Devichristos "quite according to the methods of the higher party school of the past century. But the embassy of God on the land of the Nigerian seems to be the mayor of Kiev, Lenya - his adherent cosmos? And technology does not stand still. There it’s just the right to impose quarantine on mental illness. In Russia, after Aum’s trick, a little bit of the mind took up the end of the “dashing / saints” of the 90s and drove it underground, and there everything blossomed and bloomed in a double color.
  6. samarin1969
    samarin1969 15 June 2018 17: 44
    +3
    It will be amusing to see how Poroshenko will beg for money for the Channel through Sivash for sea vessels. laughing
    1. Simple
      Simple 16 June 2018 11: 24
      +1
      It is unlikely that the West will give money for this.

      The future of the 404 country is rather uncertain.
  7. Yak28
    Yak28 15 June 2018 17: 45
    +3
    Again about the mentally ill sad
  8. marshes
    marshes 15 June 2018 17: 45
    +2
    The island of Crimea, it’s supposedly according to Aksyonov, I didn’t read it. At that time there wasn’t time to read a “home-made book”.

    For that I liked reading about Gene Green from Grivadius Gaprozhaks, It's funny. There is a group of writers for those who want to be smart.
    1. himRa
      himRa 15 June 2018 17: 50
      +3
      marshes with a holiday!
      1. marshes
        marshes 15 June 2018 18: 01
        +4
        Quote: himRa
        swamps with a holiday!

        Thank you, but I'm not a religious obscurantist. People fly into space, organs are transplanted. And what, Shabbat already, from the first star, Venus. Yes, and Friday.
        By the way, lamb is not cut, you can not worry.
        And so one shepherd at the most terrible moment of his life, a desert storm, saw it and was imbued ...
        I feel then they will burn in Hell, lick in a frying pan, as in the cartoon. I don’t remember from anyone. Funny cartoon.
        1. himRa
          himRa 15 June 2018 18: 10
          +2
          Quote: marshes
          Thank you, but I'm not religious

          I, too ... so tribute to traditions ... I remember how children ran and congratulated - and adults generously presented us with sweets ...
          I don’t believe in things that cannot be confirmed by experience, weigh and measure ... in general, and I don’t believe in the soul either .. Saveliev’s processor speaks well about this (there are a lot of his videos on YouTube)
          1. marshes
            marshes 15 June 2018 18: 17
            +1
            Quote: himRa
            I sobssno too .... a tribute to tradition.

            I have the same tribute, but I don’t remember what anyone would bestow. I remember living in KEChI’s houses, not a military town, but similar. Yes, in Almaty, when there were 10% Muslim practitioners, it was. So I only found out seriously after 90s .
            Quote: himRa
            I don’t believe in things that cannot be confirmed by experience, weigh and measure ... in general, and I don’t believe in the soul either .. Saveliev’s processor speaks well about this (there are a lot of his videos on YouTube)

            But they tried to weigh 21 grams. Here and old tales about weighing the soul in terms of the featheriness of the feather, Egypt.
            1. himRa
              himRa 15 June 2018 18: 25
              +2
              Quote: marshes
              There are also old tales about weighing the soul in terms of the relativity of the feather, Egypt.

              You know .... for example, how to check a bike about ,, dead ,, and ,, living ,, water?
              Easy! I did it myself ......
              just let the fry go there! laughing
              I don’t know about what 21 grams you write ... maybe I didn’t understand? I will not comment accordingly ...
              I come from Semipalatinsk and we have Russian neighbors congratulated wink
              1. marshes
                marshes 15 June 2018 18: 34
                +1
                Quote: himRa
                You know .... for example, how to check a bike about ,, dead ,, and ,, living ,, water? Easy! I did it myself ...... just let the fry go there!

                The fisherman himself, but the elder brother is an inventor, shared water, etc. Who served in the Strategic Missile Forces, or rather someone who had a rat, hadn’t said anything to the wall. He was not lucky that the school, red, ended up with a collapse. Although it’s not poor now Yes, there are lamas.
                Quote: himRa
                I don’t know about what 21 grams you write ... maybe I didn’t understand? I will not comment accordingly ...

                After all, at one time people who weighed into another world were weighed. A well-known practice.


                Quote: himRa
                I come from Semipalatinsk and we have Russian neighbors congratulated

                Are you a Muslim?
                1. himRa
                  himRa 15 June 2018 18: 51
                  +2
                  Quote: marshes
                  Are you a Muslim?

                  Yes, I was born in a Muslim family and by the way, and I have a wife from Kyrgyzstan .. (Bolot is the name of the Kyrgyz, if not mistaken, in the Kazakh version of Bulat)
                  But I can tell you the good news laughing there is no god, as well as the soul too .... wassat moreover, there is no hell or paradise either! hi I recommend listening to Professor Savelyev interestingly tells .. here is a reference to you:
                  1. marshes
                    marshes 15 June 2018 19: 02
                    +2
                    Quote: himRa
                    Yes, I was born in a Muslim family and by the way, and I have a wife from Kyrgyzstan .. (Bolot is the name of the Kyrgyz, if not mistaken, in the Kazakh version of Bulat)

                    Yes, I chose from the names when the Bolat registered the Kazakh name, my brother you know who, but it was busy. You could of course be distorted, just change the letter to o. For that, the neighbors started to shake. Although I know their life, I often happen.
                    What on video, 51 minutes, I won’t even watch.
                    I will throw my short and beloved.
                    1. himRa
                      himRa 16 June 2018 03: 34
                      +1
                      Quote: marshes
                      What on video, 51 minutes, I won’t even watch

                      I can briefly tell you ...
                      the professor is a pathologist by profession and advocates the idea of ​​an intravital assessment of the brain (autosorting) and, on this basis, providing a place in society, denying the current situation when, for example, not the most intelligent representatives of humanity come to power but the most cunning ... hi
                      Group ,, Leningrad ,, my one of my favorite and liked the composition, thank you ...
            2. Baloo
              Baloo 15 June 2018 21: 50
              +2
              Quote: marshes
              Quote: himRa
              I don’t believe in things that cannot be confirmed by experience, weigh and measure ... in general, and I don’t believe in the soul either .. Saveliev’s processor speaks well about this (there are a lot of his videos on YouTube)
              But they tried to weigh 21 grams. Here and old tales about weighing the soul in terms of the featheriness of the feather, Egypt.

              This is not the soul weighs 21 grams, but moisture at the last exhale.
              1. marshes
                marshes 15 June 2018 23: 49
                0
                Quote: Balu
                This is not the soul weighs 21 grams, but moisture at the last exhale.

                Kin Dza Dza remembered the last exhalation of the pancreas.
              2. himRa
                himRa 16 June 2018 03: 46
                +1
                Quote: Balu
                This is not the soul weighs 21 grams, but moisture at the last exhale.

                hi if you take a percentage of the weight of the deceased, then these 21 grams will probably not even be tenths onepercent !! laughing
                So you can safely say about the statistical error! hi For example: I claim that the weight of the deceased is increasing! laughing
                or that the soul does not play a big role since its weight is only 21 grams and this = 0.05% by weight wassat
              3. Simple
                Simple 16 June 2018 11: 21
                0
                Quote: Balu
                This is not the soul weighs 21 grams, but moisture at the last exhale.


                The soul is not material and therefore it is wrong to attribute to it the dimensions (parameterize) of our manifest world.
                1. himRa
                  himRa 16 June 2018 12: 27
                  0
                  Quote: Simple
                  The soul is not material and therefore it is wrong to attribute to it the dimensions (parameterize) of our manifest world

                  Ready to hear the laws of the non-material world ... are they or what? Or should I take the word? laughing
                  1. Simple
                    Simple 19 June 2018 23: 33
                    0
                    Quote: himRa
                    Ready to hear the laws of the non-material world ... are they or what? Or should I take the word?




                    Do not worry, everything has its time.
    2. Phil77
      Phil77 15 June 2018 20: 35
      +1
      Quote: marshes
      The island of Crimea, it’s supposedly according to Aksyonov, I didn’t read it. At that time there wasn’t time to read a “home-made book”.

      For that I liked reading about Gene Green from Grivadius Gaprozhaks, It's funny. There is a group of writers for those who want to be smart.

      Do you know
      , Bolot, Aksyonov's reading matter is not everyone likes! Personally, I’m not happy, but about the “island of Crimea” I read almost in my youth, I didn’t leave any particular impressions. Well, it’s kind of fantastic. The plot, if briefly, white defended Crimea in 20, fixed there created a state and existed very long, and so on,. read, you might like it.
      1. marshes
        marshes 15 June 2018 20: 47
        +1
        Quote: Phil77
        , Marshes, Aksyonov's reading matter is not everyone likes! Personally, I am not happy, but about the "island of Crimea" I read almost in my youth, I didn’t leave any special impressions.

        I read on the printed pages, while I was on my way out. For years it’s 92-94, it’s like a sergeant already, I pulled the service to school. Yes, I have zero conscience, for that sergeant after the corporal, I got a fry. Before that go to Suv, KAD at the local military school was trained after Baurzhan Mamysh Ula.
        1. Phil77
          Phil77 15 June 2018 21: 23
          +1
          It would be interesting to talk with you! Write. I’ll talk with respect and argue. I. How could it be otherwise? I remember very well whose guys defended Moscow in 1941, without nationalities !!!!
        2. AUL
          AUL 15 June 2018 21: 29
          0
          The story "Island of Crimea" was published in the journal "Youth". For an amateur.
          1. Phil77
            Phil77 15 June 2018 21: 44
            0
            Quote from AUL
            The story "Island of Crimea" was published in the journal "Youth". For an amateur.

            Well, I especially didn’t like it. Well, I don’t like Aksyonov !!!
  9. komradbuh
    komradbuh 15 June 2018 17: 53
    +2
    And the right decision, the Ukrainians had a peninsula, and the island of Crimea never had them
  10. Ovsen
    Ovsen 15 June 2018 17: 55
    +11
    Give a shovel a shovel and let him dig. At least until the third coming.
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  12. dolfi1
    dolfi1 15 June 2018 17: 55
    +3
    It's good that this is a shovel, not a bulldozer, it will dig longer laughing fool
  13. Sevastopol
    Sevastopol 15 June 2018 17: 57
    +1
    Yeah. Only now our local governor does not consider us to be Russian. He accused Sevastopolites of Maidanism. It is difficult to imagine how an even more indecent word is possible for a Sevastopol to say. Yes, that’s not all. Wrong site. Look at the forums of our city. I will not say special.
    1. himRa
      himRa 15 June 2018 18: 01
      +6
      Quote: Sevastopolets
      Yeah. Only now our local governor does not consider us to be Russian.

      Calm down, buddy!
      Sevastopol has always stood out! Even in the USSR, this city was not in Ukrainian and was of union submission ... sobssno as now!
      1. KLV2018
        KLV2018 15 June 2018 20: 50
        0
        Quote: himRa
        Quote: Sevastopolets
        Yeah. Only now our local governor does not consider us to be Russian.

        Calm down, buddy!
        Sevastopol has always stood out! Even in the USSR, this city was not in Ukrainian and was of union submission ... sobssno as now!

        Do you live in Sevastopol?
    2. KLV2018
      KLV2018 15 June 2018 18: 35
      -1
      Quote: Sevastopolets
      Yeah. Only now our local governor does not consider us to be Russian. He accused Sevastopolites of Maidanism. It is difficult to imagine how an even more indecent word is possible for a Sevastopol to say. Yes, that’s not all. Wrong site. Look at the forums of our city. I will not say special.

      Sevastopol is actively being tanned and divided.
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  15. slavaseven
    slavaseven 15 June 2018 18: 24
    +1
    Well, what else could the Shovel offer? laughing
    Dig, only dig
  16. gloomy fox
    gloomy fox 15 June 2018 18: 25
    0
    Well, what’s the Shovel, dig a canal by the shovel and go on! The sea dug up the whole and the canal into the light !. good hi
  17. aristok
    aristok 15 June 2018 18: 38
    0
    shovel - shovel
  18. Amateur
    Amateur 15 June 2018 18: 42
    +4
    Well stupid! They need to fall asleep the Sea of ​​Azov. Then GDP will look silly with its bridge.
  19. APASUS
    APASUS 15 June 2018 18: 44
    +1
    This is what I understand the last problem for Ukraine, everyone else has decided. It remains only to start the Great Construction Projects
  20. Vasilenko Vladimir
    Vasilenko Vladimir 15 June 2018 18: 48
    +1
    these can they dug up the Black Sea belay
  21. tolmachiev51
    tolmachiev51 15 June 2018 18: 55
    +1
    Well, what !!! fence "built", it's time to dig a ditch. where only to take money? there is still a loan charge on the nose !! There is an option, "together with the world community." To make Muscovites dig, they built a bridge from themselves.
  22. Anton Boldakov
    Anton Boldakov 15 June 2018 18: 57
    +2
    Yes, let them dig ... This is not such a cheap thing. it seems - another blow to the budget of the Kiev Junta
  23. Miller
    Miller 15 June 2018 19: 02
    +1
    So that no crest could go to rest in the Crimea, financially head off the “achressor”.
  24. Altona
    Altona 15 June 2018 19: 04
    +1
    Quote: bouncyhunter
    Exactly ! And then just some kind of channel - garbage!

    ----------------------------
    Pasha, so the Sumerians can dig the Azov-Black Sea Canal, and Stalin the White Sea-Baltic Can not be in due time? Shota dictatorship and totalitarianism smacks of this venture. laughing
    1. bouncyhunter
      bouncyhunter 15 June 2018 19: 46
      +2
      So it is: who will forbid the descendants of protoucre to change geography? They change the story at times. If Stalin was alive, he would have strangled himself with envy. lol
  25. svp67
    svp67 15 June 2018 19: 08
    +5
    Spade offered to dig a canal and make the Crimea an island
    WELL DONE. The next stage is the canal separating the Donbass, then, the most difficult, the canal along the border with Russia, then with Belarus, Poland, Slovenia, Hungary, Moldova, there it will connect with the Danube, along the border with Romania and wu a la ... Island Ukraine, than not a lesson for the next 1000 years ...
    1. bouncyhunter
      bouncyhunter 15 June 2018 19: 48
      +2
      Sergei hi
      Quote: svp67
      Island Ukraine

      And what for do you need another UK?
      1. svp67
        svp67 16 June 2018 03: 33
        +1
        Paul hi
        Quote: bouncyhunter
        And what for do you need another UK?

        Well, for the 1000th anniversary of digging, the "great Sumerians" will COME ...
  26. Altona
    Altona 15 June 2018 19: 10
    +2
    Quote: himRa
    there is no god, as well as the soul too ..

    -----------------------------
    It seems to me that inside some you have now broken a very harmonious paradigm consisting of two parts. The first part of life is dedicated to Yahweh, who does not forbid to boast of wealth, to profit from one's neighbor and not to deny oneself pleasures and money-grubbing at all. But here is one inconsistency, there is no afterlife with all the attendant buns. And then op-pa, fuck-tibidoch, a faithful Jew, quickly changes his shoes to Christianity by the end of his life, repents for the past (God is merciful), and now he is already a very pious Christian who expects from the Apostle Peter a longed-for pass to heaven (and all repented such). laughing
    1. Phil77
      Phil77 15 June 2018 20: 57
      0
      Quote: Altona
      Quote: himRa
      there is no god, as well as the soul too ..

      -----------------------------
      It seems to me that inside some you have now broken a very harmonious paradigm consisting of two parts. The first part of life is dedicated to Yahweh, who does not forbid to boast of wealth, to profit from one's neighbor and not to deny oneself pleasures and money-grubbing at all. But here is one inconsistency, there is no afterlife with all the attendant buns. And then op-pa, fuck-tibidoch, a faithful Jew, quickly changes his shoes to Christianity by the end of his life, repents for the past (God is merciful), and now he is already a very pious Christian who expects from the Apostle Peter a longed-for pass to heaven (and all repented such). laughing

      Something I didn’t understand, what I understood, I didn’t understand, or vice versa?! So I understood ?! I said powerfully!
      1. himRa
        himRa 16 June 2018 04: 21
        +1
        Quote: Phil77
        powerfully said!

        Yeah ... the explanation is simple, pit ... er ... friday! wassat and ... we are losing him! crying
  27. kventinasd
    kventinasd 15 June 2018 19: 21
    +2
    General Shovel suggested digging up. This is a joke.
  28. Ros 56
    Ros 56 15 June 2018 19: 22
    0
    So what's the matter, shovel his teeth and dig from eight to retirement. I have the impression that they are not fit for anything without the owner’s whip, they can only carry all the nonsense and offer unrealizable projects. am
  29. tolyasik0577
    tolyasik0577 15 June 2018 19: 32
    +1
    You finish the fence to begin with, and then proceed to the channel.
  30. roofing hedgehog
    roofing hedgehog 15 June 2018 19: 34
    0
    let them first learn how to use toilet paper .. it’s not only for writing “victory” reports
  31. Kerensky
    Kerensky 15 June 2018 19: 34
    0
    Oh! Hurried Arseny, got excited with the fence. It’s more profitable to dig a channel - you don’t see what’s at the bottom, but before work on land the money will definitely run out. Now probably bites his elbows.
    It remains only to find financing. No, not to the channel (let him channel it to himself), to the documentation, "Canal Construction Department", the building for it, staff, copiers - coolers, and there it goes!
  32. Curious
    Curious 15 June 2018 19: 42
    +4
    How many times has a site hamster caretaker hurriedly thrown unverified material into the feeder. Or deliberately "genetically modified", causing a storm of delight among the supervised contingent.
    The idea of ​​the Sivash Canal is at least 160 years old. In Soviet times, the project was developed in the 1970s. Now Hungarians, Germans and Turks are showing interest in the project.
    In general, reading the comments, you are surprised at the structure of the mind of some social strata.
    I remember about three years ago lemmings raged here on the site with delight on the issue of increasing the retirement age in Ukraine. The white polar fox, having looked at this fun, came to lemmings. Does life really teach nothing?
    1. Ovsen
      Ovsen 15 June 2018 20: 43
      +6
      Quote: Curious
      Now Hungarians, Germans and Turks are showing interest in the project.
      Yeah! All-civilized worlds


      "28/05/2018 Andrey Sidorchik 5 31582
      The island of Crimea. Is Ukraine building a canal from the Azov to the Black Sea?

      The source of information was the Ukrainian portal “20 hvilin”, which published a material entitled “Crimea could become an island”.

      Ukrainian and Turkish sources report the start of research on the project of a 20-kilometer shipping channel through the Perekop Isthmus. The total length of the channel fairway (Perekop - Chongarsky Strait - Sivash Bay - Arabat Spit) will be about 120 km. The development of this large-scale project is carried out by a group of experts from Ukraine, Germany, Hungary and Turkey, whose members recently examined the proposed route of the channel, the representative of Ukraine in the project, the leading engineer of UkrHydroproject Tatyana Lunina told the publication 20 hvilin. According to her, it’s not only to dig a canal about 100 meters wide through the Perekop Isthmus and the Arabat Spit, but also to lay a channel 10-15 meters deep across the Chongarsky Strait and Sivash, ”the material said.

      I must say that this text was published, signed by Andrei Luchnikov, on April Fool's Day. Then they forgot about it, until one of the Ukrainian journalists came across it again and started it again, taking the information for current and reliable.
      1. Curious
        Curious 15 June 2018 20: 57
        0
        "on April Fool’s Day So, they tried, they tried, but Ovsen came and disavowed all the plans, he cut him down in the bud. Judging by the interest in Ukraine, Ovsen is still far from retirement.
        1. Ovsen
          Ovsen 15 June 2018 22: 27
          +5
          Quote: Curious
          "on April Fool's Day"

          It’s unpleasant when a fool is caught on the day of a fool. Well, judging by the post, yours, the day of a fool is eternal for you. As well as the construction of the canal, along with the Turks, Hungarians, Germans, but why trifle with that civilized world, which is all .....
          And before you post something I want to google before you post. So, maltz.
          And as for Ukraine. So the wife’s relatives live there, close. . Of course it’s interesting.
          Quote: Curious
          Oatsen is still far from retirement.

          You that screen my retirement lay out or something. Yes, you’re my friend, in that case, insolent ...
          1. Curious
            Curious 15 June 2018 23: 15
            +1
            So are you a senior citizen? I did not consider a variant with negative neuroplasticity of this degree, I missed that the energy efficiency of the body is a harsh, but fair thing. Thank you, in the future I will take into account such fluctuations.
      2. Baloo
        Baloo 15 June 2018 21: 55
        +2
        Quote: Lamb
        I must say that this text was published, signed by Andrei Luchnikov, on April Fool's Day. Then they forgot about it, until one of the Ukrainian journalists came across it again and started it again, taking the information for current and reliable

        I suspect that Curious is the author. Now we all know about him.
        1. Ovsen
          Ovsen 15 June 2018 22: 30
          +5
          Quote: Balu
          I suspect that Curious is the author.

          And I think that he’s tearing his shirt for foot at this channel. And here it is what’s the matter laughing soldier .
  33. Fedorovich
    Fedorovich 15 June 2018 19: 48
    0
    Shovel suggested digging a canal

    Oru in the pigeon.
  34. Avis-bis
    Avis-bis 15 June 2018 20: 04
    +2
    Some time ago, smart people noticed that "Wedding in the Robin" is a documentary film. Now the time has come for another masterpiece (despite the presence of Nadezhda Rumyantseva there):
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ru1o1ULl2c
  35. Govorun
    Govorun 15 June 2018 20: 11
    +2
    Shovel proposed to dig a canal and make Crimea an island ...
    I give a free idea for Shovels (I don't mean garden tools) ... after you make Crimea an island, I suggest digging the island from below to separate it completely from the land ... and the island will go free swimming .. I BELIEVE THAT YOU HAVE A SHOVEL, EVERYTHING WILL BE GIVEN, DRAW .... though I have found something for you to do in the next millennia, otherwise it is already a pity to look at you from idleness ...
  36. Shelest2000
    Shelest2000 15 June 2018 20: 41
    0
    I have no words...
  37. NF68
    NF68 15 June 2018 20: 58
    +1
    For the descendants of the great ukrov, this is nonsense. Their ancestors dug a pit under the Black Sea. But when, while still being Major General, Lopata was not a bad corps commander, according to people who knew him.
    1. marshes
      marshes 15 June 2018 21: 30
      +1
      Nikolay, for the interest of where you currently live, it's just land. It’s painfully indignant at the Germans ’exit count.
      In the north rhine of Vesfalia, I have a German persecutor who has a house in 300 squares laughing
      1. NF68
        NF68 17 June 2018 16: 15
        +1
        Quote: marshes
        Nikolay, for the interest of where you currently live, it's just land. It’s painfully indignant at the Germans ’exit count.
        In the north rhine of Vesfalia, I have a German persecutor who has a house in 300 squares laughing


        I live in Westphalia on the very border with Hesse. At the expense of the Germans and other Russian-speaking citizens leaving Kazakhstan, I’m not so indignant, rather, I remind you that in this case, Kazakhstan is losing the same.
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  39. Prisoner
    Prisoner 15 June 2018 21: 17
    +2
    Well, what else can the Shovel offer? Dig something yes. laughing
  40. petrol cutter
    petrol cutter 15 June 2018 21: 34
    +3
    Well, what can I say?!. Give a friend a shovel, let him dig. Once all issues have been resolved in the country, then for God's sake! Everyone goes crazy in his own way ...
  41. huginn
    huginn 15 June 2018 22: 00
    +1
    Judging by the surname, it was his ancestors who dug up the Black Sea, that he would dig a canal alone?
  42. sir_obs
    sir_obs 15 June 2018 22: 50
    +1
    And what else does a lop offer? Only dig.
    1. rehev931
      rehev931 15 June 2018 23: 16
      +1
      "prepare for the earth" am
  43. rehev931
    rehev931 15 June 2018 23: 15
    +2
    Well, in principle, Joffe is right !!! I support !!! They threw mountains, dug the sea: for the Sumerians, there is some kind of channel there, like two fingers on the asphalt !!! am
  44. Andrey VOV
    Andrey VOV 15 June 2018 23: 21
    +1
    What do they take inside that every time such pearls ??
    1. Baloo
      Baloo 16 June 2018 21: 41
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      Quote: Andrey VOV
      What do they take inside that every time such pearls ??

      Fat. Their Ministry of Health does not warn that excessive consumption of fat leads to cretinism. Yes
  45. Govorun
    Govorun 16 June 2018 00: 19
    +2
    Quote: himRa
    Quote: marshes
    Thank you, but I'm not religious

    I, too ... so tribute to traditions ... I remember how children ran and congratulated - and adults generously presented us with sweets ...
    I don’t believe in things that cannot be confirmed by experience, weigh and measure ... in general, and I don’t believe in the soul either .. Saveliev’s processor speaks well about this (there are a lot of his videos on YouTube)

    Forgive me for interfering, but I was once given a brief dialogue by a famous Russian surgeon, but it’s very indicative for me that you don’t believe that it is impossible to confirm by experience, to weigh and measure ...
    „- How do you believe in God, pop and Professor Yasenetsky-War? Have you seen him, your God?
    “I really have not seen God, citizen, public prosecutor.” But I operated a lot on the brain and, opening the skull, I never saw the mind there either. And I didn’t find a conscience there either. “
    "I fell in love with suffering ..." Autobiography From a speech in court on the "case of doctors" in Tashkent, 1921
    1. himRa
      himRa 16 June 2018 03: 05
      +1
      Quote: Govorun
      I'm sorry to interfere

      And we are just here to “intervene” and express a point of view ....
      I hope you understand that changing the point of view of another stranger and even hoping for nothing on the Internet is empty? hi
      Quote: Govorun
      I loved suffering ... "

      This short phrase explains a lot ...
      my life experience tells me:
      1- a person turns to God and begins to believe only in cases of difficult life situations (addiction, illness, age)
      2-everyone considers himself unique and this is true! We so different, what can we say about species differences (a dog and a fox, a tiger and a lion will never agree) I refer to Professor Savelyev ...
      3- You are right to have compassion, conscience or love in the brain, but you can’t check the speaker’s words about the concepts ...
      From my life:
      I had a work colleague and he also talked about ,, high ,, matters wink
      insisted, persuaded me to attend their meetings ... even offered money for a drink wassat and somehow in a conversation he escaped:
      - I would have come ... he even put it
      !!! And then I understood what, his words were, and why he needed me laughing ...
      I can say that provocation is a good method of checking the statements of another person! Then the echoes of, cockroaches, will come out! winked
      1. Govorun
        Govorun 16 June 2018 12: 00
        +1
        Sorry, I didn’t finish a bit, under the desire to have my own parish, he meant to get hold of it or not ...
        1. himRa
          himRa 16 June 2018 12: 34
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          Quote: Govorun
          Sorry, I didn’t finish a bit, under the desire to have my own parish, he meant to get hold of it or not ...

          Yes, friend, he was thinking about income ... and he declaimed that he did not need anything from earthly goods
          1. Govorun
            Govorun 16 June 2018 17: 18
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            I agree, there are some ... because we have the saying "in the family, not without a freak", unfortunately it was, is and will be, but it’s not worth it to equal it, such certainly blacken everything bright. But of course there are really worthy representatives of each religion and in general in life. I am not a person who is religious, but I have great respect for the representatives of religion and of course I met all sorts of characters and those who created something that they would not believe, if not I knew personally, but there were also those (clergymen) who, without any self-interest, were simply ready to give and help as much as they could and for me they outweighed all those who blackened the human or the Divine ... and somewhere in my soul I still understand that God is, but sometimes we try to deny it just because we wouldn’t admit or justify our sinful acts ... this is my personal opinion, I’m not trying to impose it on anyone.
  46. LeonidL
    LeonidL 16 June 2018 01: 42
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    To whom, what, and Lopate - to dig .... clearly the heir to the ancient ukrov who dug up the Black Sea ... I just want to say - "Dig a Shovel, dig ..."
  47. bald
    bald 16 June 2018 01: 55
    +1
    Ultimately, the swamp will come out.
  48. Zomanus
    Zomanus 16 June 2018 03: 45
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    Well, what is quite real. Belomorkanal we dug.
    It is clear by whose forces, but this will not be a shortage in Ukraine.
  49. Vitas
    Vitas 16 June 2018 04: 35
    +1
    They will dig through the territory of Ukraine. Accordingly, the territory is reduced by 100 m. In width and somewhat in length. We take into account the erosion of the coastline ... And from the earth when digging, you can make the "southern rampart" from Russia and put there stuffed animals, a thorn.
  50. Nikolaevich I
    Nikolaevich I 16 June 2018 05: 35
    +2
    I heard that the Egyptians have a desire to dig up the second "branch" of the Suez Canal, but they don’t have the opportunity (there isn’t enough pennies ...)! Let him go away .... tama will declare him "retired pharaoh"! PSA on Mars Shovel is not necessary! It’s so through additional channels that Mars will destroy that if there is now hope that “apple trees will bloom on Mars ..."; then, after the work of Shovel, this hope will be ruined forever! After Shovels, we will not need Mars!
    1. Servisinzhener
      Servisinzhener 16 June 2018 11: 39
      +2
      Late they realized it, the Egyptians had already dug it. Moreover, without the participation of these self-proclaimed ancient capitals. laughing
    2. Curious
      Curious 16 June 2018 14: 49
      0
      Vladimir, that whom in the colony of lemmings did not expect to meet is you.
      1. Nikolaevich I
        Nikolaevich I 16 June 2018 15: 28
        +1
        So it happens, Victor! And I'm not without sin .... request