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Norman quartet and bluff instead of blackmail

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German Foreign Minister Heiko Maas said that he considered the fact of the meeting of diplomats for the first time in 16 months a success, but he admits that the positions of Moscow and Kiev are very far from each other. We can say that for Kiev, Berlin and Paris this is the only success of this meeting. All the “homework” for this summit, made by the Ukrainian side with the approval of the West, went down the drain.




There was no predictable breakthrough for Russia. But Moscow firmly stands in their positions, and this is in a certain sense, though not a great, but undoubted success.

The fact that the first meeting in a year and a half of the Norman Four ministers took place right now, on the eve of the opening of the 2018 World Cup, is not accidental.

According to Kiev and the West, this was one of the most opportune moments in order to force our country to make concessions. Moscow is extremely interested in the fact that the Mundial passes as well as possible, without the slightest excesses, provocations and scandals. And this circumstance sought to use for blackmail (if you call a spade a spade).

Heiko Maas, the German Foreign Minister, said directly on what concessions the Russian side wanted to get from Russia, stating that the Quartet’s foreign ministers intend to discuss primarily the UN mission in the Donbas to create “new framework conditions” for the Minsk agreements.

That is, in fact, the West tried to achieve through the “Norman format” what Kurt Volker could not achieve from Vladislav Surkov. Namely, in fact, to disavow the existing Minsk agreements by including a provision on the deployment of UN peacekeepers at the border of the Russian Federation and the people's republics, which would mean a blockade of Donbass by forces of the United Nations contingent.

Actually, these goals of the summit were quite definitely reported by experts close to the political department of the Federal Republic of Germany.

DW cites the opinion of the expert of the German Society for Foreign Policy, Wilfried Jilge, who says that Berlin assumes that if “blue helmets”, as Russia wants, will be placed only along the confrontation line, then “this line risks becoming an informal border between the territory controlled by Kiev and the areas of pro-Russian separatists ". What would freeze the conflict and become "a violation of the Minsk agreements providing for the restoration of the territorial integrity and full sovereignty of Ukraine."

The expert stressed that the interests of the West are in line with the approach of Kiev, according to which UN peacekeepers should be deployed throughout the conflict zone, including the Ukrainian-Russian border not controlled by Kiev. In this case, Yilge believes, “the Russian military would have to withdraw to its territory, which would have deprived the Kremlin of the opportunity to pursue its policy of destabilization and would increase security in the region.”

Recall that the Kiev junta does not hide its intention in the case of the implementation of this plan to carry out a punitive operation and a total sweep under the “Croatian scenario” in the Donbas under the barrier and protection of the “blue helmets”.

To get Russia to move in the direction of the “Kiev”, or rather, the American version, the Ukrainian armed forces resumed shelling of settlements and civilian infrastructure. A series of provocations followed in the so-called gray zone. Kiev makes every effort to understand that it intends to undertake a large-scale attack on the people's republics during the World Cup. One that would require serious intervention by Russia, which will undoubtedly be used to accuse our country of “aggression” and to disrupt the world championship.

The fact that this blackmail is supported by the countries-guarantors of Ukraine in the “Norman format” is evidenced by the fact that both the French and the German minister stated that the growing tensions (note the fault of Kiev) require the prompt introduction of UN peacekeepers option.

Actually, the French and German minister did not create any illusions about the fact that they would be able to maximally bend the Russian colleague. They would be completely satisfied with at least minimal, at first glance, insignificant deviations from the existing Minsk Protocol. Even if we agree to discuss possible “adjustments” of the adopted and signed agreements.



But none of this followed. The head of the Russian Foreign Ministry said that he was ready to negotiate only and exclusively within the framework of the Minsk agreements, categorically rejecting even the hypothetical possibility of any “new framework conditions”.

And his partners in the Quartet, so that the summit would not be disrupted, just had to accept as its agenda what Lavrov outlined. Namely - to discuss in the framework of Minsk-2 issues of breeding forces and the exchange of prisoners.

That is why the Russian foreign minister said that the meeting was generally useful.

So, Paris, Berlin and Kiev failed to get what they wanted from Moscow. Will Kiev put its threats into action?

The command of the APU and the Kiev junta rather soberly assesses its capabilities in the event of a direct clash with our country, and therefore a large-scale offensive is not likely to follow. Blackmail was, besides, a bluff. However, there will be no doubt that there will be provocations aimed at discrediting Russia.
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  1. Uncle lee
    Uncle lee 14 June 2018 05: 37
    +1
    there will be provocations, do not have to doubt.
    There will be provocations, but when will the answer be?
    And will it be?
    1. A good one
      A good one 14 June 2018 06: 50
      +10
      Lavrov probably already broke his tongue about these idiots, he already seemed to explain it on his fingers, while figs and rhythmic snapping of a finger on his finger constantly appeared.
      1. credo
        credo 14 June 2018 12: 54
        +2
        Quote: Not bad
        Lavrov probably already broke his tongue about these idiots, he already seemed to explain it on his fingers, while figs and rhythmic snapping of a finger on his finger constantly appeared.

        About idiots it is impossible to break the tongue as the tongue does not break at all. As for Lavrov’s communication with his negotiating colleagues, it’s necessary to understand that for him it was more like a protocol meeting, doomed to failure in advance, therefore, as a rule, no one gets tired and strained at such negotiations and everyone remains at their own. We met, talked, made sure that the positions of the parties did not change and left. The round is over, we are waiting for new meetings.
        I can’t understand another thing why the author of the article, like our homegrown parrot journalists, uses the word mundial to the place and out of place. Can it really be that the phrase "... Moscow is extremely interested in making the world championship as good as possible ..." is impossible to pronounce except with a word that causes some not very pleasant associations. Then if you want to stand out against the background of those who call the championship in the old fashioned way, you can set out the proposal in a different way, but then all your colleagues would probably be envious - "... Moscow is extremely interested in making the world championship as good as possible, and the best footballers in the world measured themselves with muds. " For those who will be corrupted by the last word, I will explain that the phrase "try on muds" according to some sources means measure on masculine power. And what is creative one way or just new and unusual.
  2. Aleks2048
    Aleks2048 14 June 2018 07: 46
    0
    Well, the closer the World Cup to the Russian Federation, the more adequate the article. Finally, the insight began that Kiev would not carry out moronic large-scale attacks in the Donbass, as judging by the articles and comments, many wanted to. And even more so, not any idiotic actions in the form of the introduction of troops of the Russian Federation into the territory of Donbass, and there won’t be any input of the occupation contingent in the territory of another state.
    At such a pace, even a little more, and maybe in the Russian Federation there will come an understanding that it is time to end the humanitarian aid in the Donbass.
  3. Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 14 June 2018 08: 20
    +7
    It seems that there is only one way out of this impasse. The reunification of Donbass with Ukraine - with the complete dictatorship of Donbass.
  4. maxxavto
    maxxavto 14 June 2018 08: 43
    +1
    Thank you Boris for the article !!! good analytics - simple and straightforward
  5. Antares
    Antares 14 June 2018 08: 47
    +1
    Analytics Claiming Analytics Should Not Be An Opinion
    What is such a "Ukrainian junta"? Does the author know when the Russian Federation recognized at all levels its Ukrainian partners?
    How can I conduct an analysis of the meeting — having written the RF “I can’t help” without analyzing the positions of the Ministries of France / Germany / Ukraine / Russia, the history of the meetings, the protocol and the transcript of this meeting?
    Sergey Lavrov called the meeting "very useful." Negotiations were also called useful by Ukrainian Minister Pavel Klimkin. German Foreign Minister Heiko Maas called the dialogue "very open, very thorough and very constructive." The French minister, Jean-Yves Le Drian, did not lag behind his colleagues, reporting that the ministers reached an agreement on six key points. In the format of the “Norman Four”, the issue of the release of “detained persons” and the possibility of a UN peacekeeping mission in Donbass were discussed for the first time. On the last point, the positions of Russia and Ukraine radically diverge.
    We don’t forget that the exchange of “Russians to Ukrainians” is on the agenda due to pressure from the public in the EU and Ukraine. Therefore, there is a telephone conversation between two P.I. and a separate time at the meeting.
    The Armed Forces command and the Kiev junta are quite soberly assessing their capabilities in the event of a direct clash with our country, and therefore, a large-scale offensive is unlikely to follow.

    how so - from each iron, the new date of the Offensive. Now on election day, on the opening day of Mundial, then some other day ... not order. lol
    from June 14, you can wang every 2-4 days. And July 15 is beyond competition ...
    They are not interested in the offensive of the Armed Forces, about which they have repeatedly written. And only in the Russian media that day is the offensive! Who is more interested then?
    1. badens1111
      badens1111 14 June 2018 08: 59
      +1
      Quote: Antares
      They are not interested in the offensive of the Armed Forces, about which they have repeatedly written.

      To do this, created two shock groups?
      In general, write a lot, broadcasting opinions from the Ruins and the Kiev junta in particular, but who will believe you?
      OTG Donetsk:

      The number of troops - about 20 hp, tanks - about 000 (mainly T-300, there is one batt. BM "Bulat"), BBM - about 64 (the bulk of BMP-800, also there is BTR-1,2, BRDM-70,80), artillery - about 2 units of the barrel, self-propelled and anti-tank (mainly 1000C2 and 1C2, D-3 division, several divisions Hyacinth-B and MSTA-B, anti-tank MT-30 and anti-tank platoon from the Marine Corps), MLRS - about 12 (BM-200 and 21K9), air defense systems - about 57 (full nomenclature from ZU-500-23 and MANPADS, to BUK-M2 and S-1).

      OTG Lugansk:

      The number of troops - about 17 hp, tanks - about 000 (mainly T-250, there are T-64), armored combat vehicles - about 72 (the bulk of the BMP-700, there is also the BTR-1,2, BRDM-70,80) , Artillery - about 2 units of the barrel, self-propelled and anti-tank (mainly 700C2 and 1C2, several D-3 divisions, several Giatsint-B and MSTA-B divisions, anti-tank MT-30 and ATGM places), MLRS - about 12 (BM- 120 and 21K9), air defense systems - about 57 (full nomenclature from ZU-300-23 and MANPADS, to BUK-M2 and S-1).
      This is as of February, now reinforced yet, with whom are you going to fight?
      Quote: Antares
      Who is more interested then?

      Your hosts from the Big Puddle.
      Nobody is pulling Petsu for the language, there is no Minsk format? Well, try to do without it, who will be worse? Oh, by the way .. you can’t find UN peacekeepers in the form of NATO units.
      1. Antares
        Antares 14 June 2018 09: 53
        +1
        [quote = badens1111] This is as of February, now reinforced yet, with whom are you going to fight?
        maybe with this
        Do you need to bring the number of armed forces ORDILO and the armies behind them? the ratio is clearly not in favor of the APU! What kind of attack can we talk about?
        Only defense. An increase in the composition of the RA on the border with Ukraine causes an increase and strengthening of the Armed Forces. And that is incompatible in terms of growth.
        [quote = badens1111] Your hosts for the Big Puddle. [/ quote]
        why everyone keeps the USA for idiots ....
        not so to partners.
        [quote], broadcasting opinions from the Ruins and the Kiev junta in particular, but who will believe you [/ quote]
        I express my opinion, not trying to please someone or make them trust. This is a personal matter for everyone. And I read news about Ukraine exclusively on VO, BMPD and other (mainly Russian) blogs. If they refer to Ukrainian sources only then I’m going to look at what they wrote in Ukraine (similarly to other world media)
        The country is called Ukraine, the Kiev junta is a long legally recognized government of Ukraine even by the Russian Federation, as well as respected Ukrainian partners, Dear Petr Alekseevich, etc.
        1. badens1111
          badens1111 14 June 2018 10: 38
          +2
          Quote: Antares
          ORDILO

          I don’t know what this is and don’t want to know, but the fact that there are two republics of the LPR and the DPR is a given.
          Quote: Antares
          Increased composition of the RA on the border with Ukraine

          Where and how? You should not lie. The composition of the forces and means of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation, in a peaceful configuration, peacetime, in contrast to the hustle and bustle of ukrovermaht.
          Quote: Antares
          why everyone keeps the USA for idiots ....

          Probably because they always support Somos, then Pinochet, then Poroshenko ..
          Quote: Antares
          If they refer to Ukrainian sources only then I’m going to look at what they wrote in Ukraine (similarly to other world media)

          Watching Ukrainian sites means laughing for a long time and realizing that such a roll of lies is rarely seen, except in two cases, during hunting and fishing and in anticipation of the intensification of hostilities.
          Quote: Antares
          The country is called Ukraine, the Kiev junta is a long legally recognized government of Ukraine even by the Russian Federation, as well as respected Ukrainian partners, Dear Petr Alekseevich, etc.

          Nothing more than diplomatic politeness ... when they call Pyotr Alekseevich, generally more often Parsley or a pastry chef, but not comme il faut, even a clown in interstate relations, at the state level. To call parsley, only Trump, by virtue of Anglo-Saxon ill-manneredness allows this.
          At the expense of "recognition" .. well, as this misunderstanding was recognized, we do not recognize the legality of the junta. Leading genocide against the population. This is for you to read, assimilate and execute, in order to avoid ..
          https://cyberleninka.ru/article/v/mezhdunarodnye-
          prestupleniya
        2. glum
          glum 14 June 2018 15: 48
          +1
          Antares, it is useless to prove anything to the interlocutor if only standard shtami (ukrovermahtm, nazis, junta) are put aside in his head, although even in nete they do not bother to look at the meaning of the word junta). They consider only their point of view and no longer a draw correct.
          1. Russian jacket
            Russian jacket 15 June 2018 05: 28
            0
            Yes, this is a standard “stamp”. In 2014, from which direction did the shells arrive in Russia? And the shelling of Russian border guards? Then it was decided to strengthen the grouping on the border of the former fraternal country, and none of this made a secret. And they did it without screaming about going to Kiev. But the screaming from your inadequates and not only about the "censor" is not just about the trip when creating your shock fist, there were a lot of people in the Kuban, about other stamps .... We have ukraine production disconnectors on the open switchgear and we install new ones in the order of installation supervision. And the installation is carried out by Ukrainians. So, in conversations they obscene the power. Theirs. From the conversation. "Russian customers are now talking to us through the lip. Prices are down. And there are no other customers. "Some sort of a barrier, installation of equipment on the territory of the aggressor ... Where is patriotism ?????. And their company keeps it and survives exclusively on orders from our Energy JSCs. And most likely these orders will run out soon, since other suppliers appeared, which, by virtue of price, had not been looked at before ....
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      2. Aleks2048
        Aleks2048 14 June 2018 11: 55
        +1
        laughing lol
        To do this, created two shock groups?

        laughing lol
        Time such a thing puts everything in its place ... And I think that time will show how wise your thoughts are ...
        lol
    2. credo
      credo 14 June 2018 13: 00
      0
      Quote: Antares
      What is such a "Ukrainian junta"? Does the author know when the Russian Federation recognized at all levels its Ukrainian partners?

      Whatever your complete picture of whether Russia recognized or not recognized the current Ukrainian government, look at the direct line of V.V. Putin a week ago. There is clearly given the answer to your incorrect statement.
    3. gsev
      gsev 17 June 2018 03: 27
      +1
      Germany was a recognized state, but for us on June 22, 1941 it became an illegal formation that had to be destroyed. Many believe that Stalin was supposed to begin the destruction of this state in 1938 or 1939. For example, our school history teacher respected Stalin, but could not forgive him for not deciding to start a war with Germany in 1938 defending Czechoslovakia. Now for us, Ukrainian punishers are the same fascists as the Germans were in 1941. And the Ukrainian state itself praises S. Bandera, a notorious sadist and Hitler lackey. The only fascists of 2018 are not as frisky as the 1941 model, but since 2014, the Ukrainian invaders on Dondas have shown that they are meaner and ruthless than their predecessors of the 1941-42 model.
  6. evil partisan
    evil partisan 14 June 2018 09: 27
    +4
    I am collecting money for a travel suit for Klimkin. Yes
    1. Evil543
      Evil543 14 June 2018 10: 27
      +2
      Why does he need a suit? Cremated anyway request
      1. The Sparkle
        The Sparkle 14 June 2018 10: 39
        +2
        "The main thing is that the suit is sitting."
        And he hung in it.
    2. Simple
      Simple 14 June 2018 16: 35
      +1
      I tried to be photo-hygienic - but I overdid it.

      wassat
  7. turcom
    turcom 14 June 2018 17: 54
    +2
    And what is it with Klimkin? Has she become pregnant, if so, from what?
  8. Russian jacket
    Russian jacket 15 June 2018 05: 30
    0
    [quote = Antares] [quote = badens1111] This is as of February, now reinforced yet, who are you going to fight with?

    In 2014, from which direction did the shells arrive in Russia? And the shelling of Russian border guards? Then it was decided to strengthen the grouping on the border of the former fraternal country, and none of this made a secret. And they did it without screaming about going to Kiev. But the screaming from your inadequates and not only about the "censor" is not just about the trip to the Kuban but also to Moscow when creating your shock fist was a lot.