Germany introduced tracked amphibious armored vehicle

At the Eurosatory 2018 exhibition in Paris, the German company KMW (part of the KNDS association) presented a prototype of the floating tracked armored vehicle Amphibious Protected Vehicle Tracked (APVT), reports bmpd.

The design feature of the machine is its movement through the water astern, which made it possible to give the lumpy side favorable contours from the point of view of hydrodynamics and seaworthiness. At the same time, the front part of the car retained “normal” outlines in terms of security and visibility. In the rear part there is also a folding ramp for disembarking and landing troops.

According to company representatives, the car has already passed factory tests on the Danube. It was developed at the expense of KMW personal funds and is intended for delivery to foreign customers (primarily for countries in South-East Asia).

The company reports that the combat weight of the APVT is about 30 t, the payload mass is up to 5 t, the capacity is 8 paratroopers and 2 crew member. Length - 9,4 m, width - 3 m, height (without module) - 2,7 m.

The diesel engine has an 816 hp engine installed on the armored vehicle. The maximum speed is 70 km / h (afloat - a little more than 13 km / h, the 2 water cannons are used), the cruising range is up to 550 km (on water - up to 54 km). The troop compartment is made in the form of armored capsules. Armament - remote-controlled module with an automatic gun (20 mm). At the request of the customer can be installed tower with more powerful weapons.

Comments

[Old anecdote]

It must be a toy, dear. The Germans continue to indulge in prodigies. Surveillance afloat is carried out, apparently, using cameras. 8 people should feel at ease in this "coffin."

[Dezinto]

Surveillance afloat is carried out, apparently, using cameras

Not, well, for some reason, the screen is with glasses, and behind it are two hatches.
In general, an interesting idea - "go here, go there!)))

[san4es]

Quote: DEZINTO

... "go here, go there!)))

[Dezinto]

Is this something to transport one tiny jeep, is it necessary to drive such a bandura? ...Well I do not know...
The target is easy.
"The slow-moving target is not armored, just above four meters, it rotates with huge blades - to shoot at readiness."

[bouncyhunter]

Nicholas Judging by the third photo and the declared height without BM of 2,7 meters - this refinement of the Germans in height is also an elegant target. And the speed afloat is not impressive ...

[bulvas]

Greetings, Pasha!
They apparently had the task of ensuring seaworthiness, if for SE Asia

From this point of view, this is reasonable:

A feature of the design of the machine is its forward movement of the water through the water, which made it possible to give the lump part favorable contours in terms of hydrodynamics and seaworthiness. At the same time, the front of the car retained the “normal” shape in terms of security and visibility.

Hence the height, and the bottom, most likely V - shaped, also adds height

[bouncyhunter]

Hello, Vasya ! The solution with sailing stern forward is interesting, let's see if it goes into series.

[bulvas]

Quote: bouncyhunter

The solution with sailing stern forward is interesting, let's see if it goes into series

yes, it sounds, of course, somehow not in our opinion, but technically interesting

[bouncyhunter]

Well, let's see if this idea will give further life or will remain a concept.

[Old anecdote]

Quote: bouncyhunter

The solution with sailing stern forward is interesting, let's see if it goes into series

So this miracle must still crawl forward onto the shore, and then turn around ... But will the enemy look at all these exercises in silence?

[bouncyhunter]

This moment just raises a lot of questions. If the feed is armored in the same way as the bow, then this clearly makes the car heavier. Which is clearly not a plus of seaworthiness and maneuverability.

[ALEXXX1983]

Quote: san4es

Quote: DEZINTO

... "go here, go there!)))

The modern version of the wheeled steamer.

[bulvas]

Quote: ALEXXX1983

The modern version of the wheeled steamer.

It's funny, but we have more abruptly, among oilmen / gas workers in Siberia.
But this one - there is no seaworthiness at all, a little more wave will break the tracks and immediately drown

[san4es]

Quote: ALEXXX1983

... The modern version of the wheeled boat ...

... - tracked "steamboat"

[Black sniper]

What kind of freak is this and what is it for?

[Black sniper]

What is this? What is it for?

[73bor]

Interestingly different, what kind of car Germany? They have been developing BMPs for more than twenty years, and here is such complete nonsense!

[ancestors from Don]

For the European theater of war, merry-go-rounds will do, for a serious matter it’s unlikely that this trough is too bulky and incapable.

[ALEXXX1983]

Quote: Ancestors from the Don

For the European theater of war, merry-go-rounds will do, for a serious matter it’s unlikely that this trough is too bulky and incapable.

That is yes. And besides, the mechwater driver is floating afloat from the hatch; even small arms cannot be swam under fire. But for peacetime it’s good - buoyancy is much better than our BMP-3F.

[Yarhann]

Our analogue was created long ago in the USSR PTS-2 called. Do not compare with BMP and TP. This machine has the main task of delivering cargo or troops. A group of soldiers in the intelligence or supply of fuel and lubricants, provisions and ammunition. That is, it is more than a vehicle BMP.
A modern analogue is PTS-4

[Black sniper]

Very large coffin, 14-16 paratroopers easily fit.

[Ice ax]

The Germans answer to our Armata is not impressive. (((

[Nix1986]

And why is it a "coffin"? Or only we have no analogs?

[Yarhann]

our analogue of PTS-2 was created in the 73rd year, the modern version of PTS-4

[Hey]

The approach to the enemy immediately in a pose of cancer, that would be fucked as they wanted.
One feels the modern hobbies of Europeans with homosexuality.

[zyzx]

Clarkson did such a tarantike in Top Gear from a car and sticks ... she drowned ...

[cost]

I watched the same with pleasure!

[akims]

Armored Dupoplav! Especially touched are the inscriptions for those who like Lavrov.

[APASUS]

Such an interesting solution, and maybe somersaulting in the water overboard? Something the Germans seemed to set the task for the designers and wanted to surprise more than to produce something new. The speed afloat 13 km / h is impressive!
The Americans had planned an expeditionary combat vehicle (EFV) with a speed of up to 46 km / h on the water, and for this side they did not bend and they didn’t sew a tail to the muzzle

[san4es]

Quote: APASUS

The Americans had conceived an expeditionary combat vehicle (EFV)

[Dezinto]

But this thing! Green spits like a pleasure boat!

[Grits]

A cool machine for the Americans turned out for the Marines. For their landing ships - that’s it. I wonder if they continue to develop or not?

[Alexey RA]

Quote: Gritsa

A cool machine for the Americans turned out for the Marines. For their landing ships - that’s it. I wonder if they continue to develop or not?

Let's just say - now the marines are looking for cheaper options. Because after 25 years of developing and halving the initial order, the cost of one EFV exceeded the cost of "abram". As a result, the EFV did not fit into the Marines budget at the cost of procurement and maintenance. As before the sea "Apaches" did not fit into it.

[ALEXXX1983]

Quote: APASUS

Such an interesting solution, and maybe somersaulting in the water overboard? Something the Germans seemed to set the task for the designers and wanted to surprise more than to produce something new. The speed afloat 13 km / h is impressive!
The Americans had planned an expeditionary combat vehicle (EFV) with a speed of up to 46 km / h on the water, and for this side they did not bend and they didn’t sew a tail to the muzzle

But they stuck a huge engine for 1500 mares, used to its full potential only when moving on water. Also a pretty controversial decision.

[APASUS]

Quote: ALEXXX1983

But they stuck a huge engine for 1500 mares, used to its full potential only when moving on water. Also a pretty controversial decision.

Why is it controversial? Landing takes place at a speed of 46 km / h, not every boat is capable of it. And the fact that this device consumes a lot, since the military almost never bothered with savings, they have different priorities.

[ALEXXX1983]

Quote: APASUS

Quote: ALEXXX1983

But they stuck a huge engine for 1500 mares, used to its full potential only when moving on water. Also a pretty controversial decision.

Why is it controversial? Landing takes place at a speed of 46 km / h, not every boat is capable of it. And the fact that this device consumes a lot, since the military almost never bothered with savings, they have different priorities.

So this engine not only “eats” a lot, but also weighs and takes up space - also not a little, as a result, its land capabilities suffer greatly.

[APASUS]

Quote: ALEXXX1983

So this engine not only “eats” a lot, but also weighs and takes up space - also not a little, as a result, its land capabilities suffer greatly.

Until we invented a car that floated, traveled and flew, it suited everyone. Always for the sake of seaworthiness it was necessary to sacrifice something. For example, in the USSR they sacrificed armor

[brdm]

Good Masha!) The lifts are excellent. But the front skating rink, ... life, taller anyone will not let anyone)). A pity (Or just like the Anglitsky tank)))

[ltc35]

It turned out neither land nor floating. None. A little more and a mobile assault tower would come out to capture castles! A sort of machine to disperse the Papuans)))

[WATCH_OFFICER]

The machine is interesting, I liked it. But for the purpose of landing amphibious assault, the melt speed of 13 km / h is no longer relevant. I hope our BMMP will be no worse than the American EFV.

[Alex_Rarog]

Surprised by Hans))) by the way an interesting option really ...

[Ice ax]

German engineering is fading.

[Paranoid50]

Quote: Ice ax

German engineering is fading.

Well, not so radical. Rather, she is in no hurry to grow. Everything was already there.

[aristok]

Regardless of the fate of the car, the idea with a different direction of movement on land and on water is very good and very simple to implement ... brilliant

[Aleks2048]

That's just water cannons weaken the front armor.

[Ivan_nick]

Cats ...

[Clone]

In the first photo, the front hatch is shaped like a coffin lid ... A coincidence?

[Clone]

Quote: aristok

brilliantly

Maybe I’m not catching up with something ... but what exactly is the "genius" of this "concept"? Is it to get “hi” to the Bochin when convulsing to change “back-to-front”? A "partner" with a grenade launcher, otherwise a different anti-tanker will be sincerely glad of the unexpectedly increased silhouette of a dunger doing an unreasonable waltz on the shore ...

[tracer]

Analogies are viewed ..

[Evil 55]

Now the Fritz are definitely ready to cross the English Channel ..

[voyaka uh]

Compare with American classics.
The fighting vehicle of the Marine Corps.
For landing from the sea - ideal, verified.
For fighting on land - so-so ... On land, you need other BMP-BTR.

[Alexey RA]

Quote: voyaka uh

Compare with American classics.
The fighting vehicle of the Marine Corps.

Heh heh heh ... this "fighting vehicle" is actually just an extra armored floating APC developed by Vietnam, the good old LVTP-7. By the way, this BMP was adopted by the Marines as a temporary measure - before the start of EFV shipments. There is nothing more permanent than temporary ...

[Engineer]

PTS-2 with the Urals swims with the same speed, but with a flat face.

[Yarhann]

about at least someone else remembered a direct analog of this machine)) by the way, there is already a replacement for the PTS-4

[Guru]

Interesting development. Article +

[cordon332]

The solution is original, but a lot of shortcomings:
- enhanced reservation of the frontal projection and developed stern - direct loss of carrying capacity;
- the driver does not see anything when leaving the water;
- significant weakening of the frontal projection in the area of ​​the screw;
- the screw will be demolished at the first overcoming of the wall, and if you remove the screw into the body, the speed will drop afloat, because screw efficiency will drop;
-when driving on water, the driver does not have protection;
All these shortcomings were obtained for the sake of one thing - obtaining a speed afloat 13km / h and a simple screw drive. But it’s not easier to do the bow like stern and stretch the drive of the screws into the stern and get the same 13 km / h without any drawbacks, which the Americans did ~ 50 years ago.

[Azis]

Some garbage - no turn signals in front

[Pashuk1601]

It reminds me of something.