Can C-500 shoot down satellites and F-35. US media reflect

American edition The National Interest publishes material in which the promising anti-aircraft missile system (PVO-PRO) C-500 Prometheus is considered. The material states that the Russian system reverses the idea of ​​the limits of the effectiveness of anti-aircraft systems in the world.

From the material:

Weapon possesses not only the unprecedented ability to achieve large high-altitude targets, including ballistic missiles and even satellites, but also, according to media reports, to detect airplanes that today are considered invisible. While leading analysts do not find confirmation of this information, but one thing is certain: Russia is developing a high-altitude air defense system.

The publication refers to the already well-known publication CNBC, in which it was stated that not so long ago C-500 tests were carried out in Russia, during which the fired missile hit the target at a record distance.

It is stated that the C-500 can use several classes of missiles. In particular, the 48H6 rocket with a mass of about 2 and a radius of action of about 240 km is reported. Another rocket, according to the publication, referring to open sources - 40H6. It also speaks about the likelihood of using the 9М100 SAM from the development of Concern EKR Almaz-Antey AO. This is a short-range single-stage rocket with a solid-fuel engine and thrust vector control. The rocket is used in the C-400 SAM.

However, the main mystery of the C-500 complex remains the 77H6-H and 77H6-H1 missiles. The estimated target radius is about 600 km. Required parameters: overcoming the speed limit in 4-5М (1 M (Max) - speed of sound). The ability to intercept targets moving at a speed of about 7 km / s (20 M). In the future, these missiles will be used against so-called low-visibility air objects.

NI immediately draws a picture of how the 77H6-H and 77H6-H1 CMS X-NUMX Prometheus will threaten American F-500 and F-22 aircraft.

The submission states that, “at the request of the Russians”, the C-500 can be connected to the anti-missile-anti-satellite defense system.

Comments

[Sergerius]

Intrigued that they can’t sleep! Guessing, reasoning their mother)))

[bulvas]

Tremble, adversaries!
it's only the beginning …

[cniza]

All for the sake of money only, the main thing is to catch up with fear for more.

[cat Baiyun.]

You don’t need to scare them, they themselves will terribly catch up

[Aaron Zawi]

Quote: Sergerius

Intrigued that they can’t sleep! Guessing, reasoning their mother)))

You can shoot down the F-35 from the Shell if it falls into the sight. It seems to me that the emphasis is not correctly placed on what C-500 is. This is primarily a mobile missile defense system. Its missiles will be so expensive that no one will even spend them on fifth-generation aircraft. For this and C-400 for the eyes.

[Yak28]

You can shoot down the F-35 from the ZU-23 if it doesn’t fly at a low altitude, the focus on the C-500 is really not right

[Shurik70]

Quote: Aaron Zawi

Its rockets will be so expensive that no one will even spend them on fifth generation aircraft

Of course. This is only for parades.

[Aaron Zawi]

Quote: Shurik70

Quote: Aaron Zawi

Its rockets will be so expensive that no one will even spend them on fifth generation aircraft

Of course. This is only for parades.

Well why. Just C-500 in the conditions of the Russian Federation is a strategic system and the depth of its base will be appropriate, and F-35 / 22 are front-line vehicles, which are primarily designed to work on troops and near rear. Of course, you can fly far, but this is in a regional conflict.

[Shurik70]

So no one argues that it is more profitable to put the S-500 at strategic facilities, to connect all the other air defense systems into it into a single network - from S-400 and satellite surveillance to target designations for individual Shiloks and even fighters with MANPADS.
Any defense system is, first of all, the System, a complex of various weapons and their interaction. There should be both expensive rockets capable of shooting down satellites, and cheap machine guns and "flying networks" capable of clearing the sky from a swarm of drones.

[dorz]

The Americans have the opportunity not to enter F-16/18/35 fighters into the coverage area of ​​any Russian air defense. In April, 19 AGM-158A JASSM missiles with a range of over 900 km were fired in Syria. and according to statements, everyone hit the target. In the 20s, they ordered 1000 such missiles.

[123456789]

Quote: dorz

The Americans have the opportunity not to enter F-16/18/35 fighters into the coverage area of ​​any Russian air defense. In April, 19 AGM-158A JASSM missiles with a range of over 900 km were fired in Syria. and according to statements, everyone hit the target. In the 20s, they ordered 1000 such missiles.

The confrontation between missiles and anti-missiles resembles the confrontation between shell and armor. The absolute winner is hardly possible ... Only temporary successes and failures are possible. The undoubted breakthrough is hypersound and we already have it.

[sivuch]

What statements? And then I heard very different

[dorz]

Quote: sivuch

What statements? And then I heard very different

The Americans stated, however, as usual, in the middle.

[mvg]

His missiles will be so expensive that they even spend on airplanes

Well, you "spend" Tamira 50+ tons. $ On water pipes Kassam. Your words about the fact that Kassam’s value is not so important as what he can do when he gets to either a children's hospital or a power station.
So the S-500, it’s better to shoot down the F-35 than to let it complete the task.

[Maz]

Quote: Aaron Zawi

Quote: Sergerius

Intrigued that they can’t sleep! Guessing, reasoning their mother)))

You can shoot down the F-35 from the Shell if it falls into the sight. It seems to me that the emphasis is not correctly placed on what C-500 is. This is primarily a mobile missile defense system. Its missiles will be so expensive that no one will even spend them on fifth-generation aircraft. For this and C-400 for the eyes.

That is, c-400, Adir can easily take down and not even get out of breath at the same time? It is gratifying to know that our Israeli "friends" are deeply afraid of X-NUMX and understand this.

[Aaron Zawi]

Quote: Maz

That is, c-400, Adir can easily take down and not even get out of breath at the same time? It is gratifying to know that our Israeli "friends" are deeply afraid of X-NUMX and understand this.

First Maz personally to you, I'm definitely not a friend. Secondly, it’s foolish to underestimate such serious air defense systems as the C-300 / 400. This is a very formidable weapon. But nobody forbade us to prepare our keys to this lock.

[voyaka uh]

Sunset ZUR will be the soon appearance of short-range explosives, which
will attack missiles from the opposite course and destroy
direct hit. They only need accuracy, and they have learned to achieve this.
Missiles are huge - a large first stage, and short-range explosive missiles
light and maneuverable.

[Bad_santa]

On the S-500 will be missiles with the S-400. So you said stupidly about the cost of one rocket. The rockets of your dome are also several tens of times more expensive than the ones they shoot down, but this does not mean that you should not shoot down the rockets going to Israel. Possible damage to be considered

[Totah155]

Quote: Aaron Zawi

Quote: Sergerius

Intrigued that they can’t sleep! Guessing, reasoning their mother)))

You can shoot down the F-35 from the Shell if it falls into the sight. It seems to me that the emphasis is not correctly placed on what C-500 is. This is primarily a mobile missile defense system. Its missiles will be so expensive that no one will even spend them on fifth-generation aircraft. For this and C-400 for the eyes.

You can shoot down, as noted, from anything.
The main thing in this business "right"radar targeting the interceptor.

[kotdavin4i]

Quote: Aron Zaavi

Its missiles will be so expensive that no one will even spend them on fifth-generation aircraft.

Good afternoon, Aron - it seems to me that you are not quite right - with a price-quality ratio you can shoot down a rocket even for a couple of million dollars (well, it just can’t cost more) a plane for 120-130 lyamov is not even a question - even 10 missiles one by one goals to release is likely.

[Aaron Zawi]

Quote: kotdavin4i

Quote: Aron Zaavi

Its missiles will be so expensive that no one will even spend them on fifth-generation aircraft.

Good afternoon, Aron - it seems to me that you are not quite right - with a price-quality ratio you can shoot down a rocket even for a couple of million dollars (well, it just can’t cost more) a plane for 120-130 lyamov is not even a question - even 10 missiles one by one goals to release is likely.

in C-500 missiles will be more expensive. But the main thing is the size. It is one-stop missile defense.
By the way, congratulations on Laura.

[kotdavin4i]

Quote: Aron Zaavi

By the way, congratulations on Laura.

Thank you, we still have a lot of your "gifts". And most importantly (I hope) long-term cooperation!

[venik]

Quote: Aron Zaavi

Its missiles will be so expensive that no one will even spend them on fifth-generation aircraft. For this and S-400 for the eyes

=========
Aron! I often argue with you, but this is exactly the case when I fully agree with you !!!
Probably not in vain the S-400 in Syria was covered with "Armor" !!!!!

[siberalt]

Why guess? We will have firing from the S-500, let their planes give as targets.

[Dead duck]

Quote: Sergerius

Intrigued that they can’t sleep! Guessing, reasoning their mother)))

Yeah, the American analogue of "VO" ... the sofas there under the experts are already burning

[LSA57]

NI immediately draws a picture of how 77N6-N and 77N6-N1 S-500 "Prometheus" air defense systems will threaten the American F-22 and F-35 aircraft.

storytellers animators. and the meaning is one: “Russians are coming, give me money”

[scientist]

Quote: LSA57

Russians go give money

More precisely, turn on the printing press.
But something tells me that the S-500 will also be very different as the advertised ship-based Zircon from the air-based Dagger adopted. For too long, the TTX S-500 has been walking around the network, and this "LJ" is not casual.

[Sergerius]

Galewood is resting))

[kventinasd]

After the introduction of sanctions by amers, the progress in Russia in the military-industrial complex became noticeable even to the naked eye. We Russians always need a roasted cock. Well, it just so happened. Americans more than fulfill this role. I am sure firsthand that the S-500 will show amers where the crayfish hibernate ... and not only 500 hundred .... In short, put them a hedgehog in their pants, let them feel ...
The 90th has sunk into oblivion - it’s not a shame for the Power.

[mvg]

The 90th has sunk into oblivion - it’s not a shame for the Power. good

You live in a pink world, 2008 was much better than, say, 2014-2018

[kventinasd]

2008 was much better than, say, 2014-2018

And where is the 90s or are we not friends with arithmetic?

[mvg]

And where is the 90s or are we not friends with arithmetic?

The 90th has sunk into oblivion - it’s not a shame for the Power. They themselves answered .. And the sanctions imposed in 2014 .. After the annexation of Crimea. 90 years do not dance.

[svp67]

NI immediately draws a picture of how the 77H6-H and 77H6-H1 CMS X-NUMX Prometheus will threaten American F-500 and F-22 aircraft.

Here, the main thing is that F-22 and F-35, with a fool, would not threaten the S-500 and let them fly somewhere away from us

[zenion]

This is completely reminiscent of the discussion that in Russia they will not be able to build the Kerch bridge. In general, not a bridge, but an illusion, and cars drive.

[KVU-NSVD]

This is what happens when, in the absence of intelligible information, it is necessary to give out "from many letters" and with a claim to an analytical approach. And the less real information, the easier it is for the local military-industrial complex to grab money to “fight the threat”

[taiga2018]

they are thinking about the capabilities of the S-500, and for sure the S-600 is already being developed ...

[Altona]

The Shitty Interest again issued another sensational analysis from the series “Excessive Advertising of Russian Arms as a Cause of the Pentagon’s Chronic Underfunding”.

[Andriy Πrivals]

The excess advertising of Russian weapons is due to the fact that the owner of The National Interet magazine is Kremlin political scientist Dmitry Simes, who runs on Russian talk shows at Solovyov and Channel One.

[asv363]

You are not tired of writing almost the same thing in different topics in one day?

Example:

Andriy Πrivals (visitor 1) Today, 09:54

https://topwar.ru/142881-amerikanskiy-ekspert-apl
-ogayo-answer-na-yadernoe-unichtozhenie-ameriki
.html

[milling machine]

In particular, a 48N6 missile weighing about 2 tons and a radius of about 240 km has been reported.

2 tons, a radius of recession of 240 km (even 300). And how much does a rocket with a radius of 600 km weigh? For comparison, the American air defense system sm6:
weight: 1500 kg

speed: to 3,5 Mach

range: more than 240km (in the future, 460 km on surface targets)

target height: more than 33 km
Why is there such a difference in mass?
And yes, I’m sure that it will not be difficult for the Americans to create rockets like the one with the 400, s500 judging by the well-known performance characteristics.

[Vita vko]

Quote: frezer

it’s easy for the Americans to create a rocket like with the 400, s500

There are fundamentally different concepts of guidance at long ranges. Firstly, the missile trajectory is closer to the ballistic one, and secondly, on the final section, the GOS and homing mode are turned on. Therefore, the mass of the rocket is not much different.

[milling machine]

Quote: Vita VKO

There are fundamentally different concepts of guidance at long ranges. Firstly, the missile trajectory is closer to the ballistic one, and secondly, on the final section, the GOS and homing mode are turned on. Therefore, the mass of the rocket is not much different.

I read it three times and did not understand anything in your comment.
And yes, yes., I’ll go to school, learn mate. honor.

[Vita vko]

Quote: frezer

And yes, yes., I’ll go to school, learn mate. honor

I don’t think you will find it anywhere. When I heard new concepts for building missiles 10 years ago from the developers of the S-500 terms of reference, I myself had a gap in the patterns, although I already knew the theory of missiles quite well.

[Vita vko]

Quote: Vita VKO

new concepts for building missiles

The most interesting thing is that when hovering from the upper hemisphere, any stealth very well reflects signals in all ranges, while in infrared it generally glows better than an ordinary plane.
I think that after the start of serial production of the S - 500 in the United States, mass retirement of both the F-35 and F-22 will begin.

[Yura]

Quote: frezer

weight: 1500 kg
speed: to 3,5 Mach
range: more than 240km (460 km in prospect for surface targets)
target height: more than 33 km
Why is there such a difference in mass?

Because:

The height of the defeat of missiles and maneuvering kinetic blocks of the S-500 reaches 200 km [6], which is enough to cover ICBMs with acceleration along a lay trajectory that starts from 100 km of the upper boundary of the atmosphere and about 200 km [7] [8].

Also Among the tasks of the anti-aircraft complex are the destruction of hypersonic cruise missiles, aircraft and UAVs of both conventional high-altitude and hypersonic missiles with a speed of 5 M and higher (English waverider); destruction of low-orbit satellites and space weapons launched from hypersonic aircraft, shock hypersonic UAVs and orbital platforms.

[milling machine]

Quote: Jura

Quote: frezer

weight: 1500 kg
speed: to 3,5 Mach
range: more than 240km (460 km in prospect for surface targets)
target height: more than 33 km
Why is there such a difference in mass?

Because:

The height of the defeat of missiles and maneuvering kinetic blocks of the S-500 reaches 200 km [6], which is enough to cover ICBMs with acceleration along a lay trajectory that starts from 100 km of the upper boundary of the atmosphere and about 200 km [7] [8].

Also Among the tasks of the anti-aircraft complex are the destruction of hypersonic cruise missiles, aircraft and UAVs of both conventional high-altitude and hypersonic missiles with a speed of 5 M and higher (English waverider); destruction of low-orbit satellites and space weapons launched from hypersonic aircraft, shock hypersonic UAVs and orbital platforms.

Sm 3 tells you something?
Americans, like us, stupidly divided the threats according to ranking. Ballistics - Sm3 in various versions. Aero + -balistics - sm6. This is only the Navy. On land thaad-patriot and something on the little things.

[Yura]

Quote: frezer

Sm 3 tells you something?

Ek like you, you talked about a specific

Quote: frezer

For comparison, the American air defense system sm6:

about her, and I, that's all.

[Boa kaa]

not so long ago in Russia, the C-500 tests were carried out, during which a fired rocket hit the target at a record distance.

Amy reported that the interception took place at a distance of 480km from the C-500 launcher. True, this was the goal - not reported. But most likely, the E-3С Sentry will not fulfill its task on the theater where the Prometheus will be deployed ... And without them, the task of the tactical aircraft, especially the interceptors, will be called into question ...
And if he is also able to comb Stealth - then he will not be priced!
In short, sadness for the US Armi planners. Where not to throw - everywhere a wedge!

[demo]

Here I am of the same opinion.
Is it enough for Americans to get stuck exploring the capabilities of our weapons or not?

[Ross xnumx]

I am a pessimist. About the "Shell" you can speculate: someone of what, how much and at what distance. But to inflate the intrigue about the S-500, when the practical possibilities of the S-400 remain “inflated intrigue," is PREMATURE. Specialists! Is there data from the battlefield? When they are, then there will be a conversation. The practice of animated weapons has been going on since the times of the USSR, when, in order to "dust" the brains of foreign intelligence, they brought all sorts of rubbish depicting intercontinental missiles on Red Square ...

[WATCH_OFFICER]

Can the S-500 shoot down satellites and the F-35? Answer: Of course it can, as well as alien ships of all stripes, meteorites, asteroids and even a fly hovering over a piece of feces can bring down ...
But seriously, who knows what this complex can do. We don’t even fully know what the S-400 can do, which is already everywhere and everywhere, and here the S-500, which is only in the future ...

[kventinasd]

We don’t even fully know what the S-400 can do, which is already everywhere and everywhere.

Campaigning the Chinese, Turks and other completely stupid people just buy a pig in a poke, and not "battle-tested" patriots.
Have you heard about the tests at the training grounds, or so you decided to speak out, just shake the air?
I have acquaintances with the RPGT "Granit" who can’t get out of business trips from Russian landfills and not only. I know from them that even the S-400 sees any American "invisible" super fighter. And this is not a mess. Not everyone is given the truth.
In fact, few people want to test the C400 in action on themselves, unless the Americans can substitute their vassals

[milling machine]

Quote: kventinasd

I have friends with the RPGT "Granit" who can’t get out of business trips to Russian training grounds and not only. I know from them that even the S-400 sees any American "invisible" super fighter. And this is not a mess.

Can you give more details. At what range do the c400 detect f22 and f35?
After all, adequate people on the site do not say that "stealth" is completely invisible. The detection range, identification and combat support are important.

[kventinasd]

Quote: frezer

Can you give more details. At what range do the c400 detect f22 and f35?

I didn’t ask such a question.

[milling machine]

Quote: kventinasd

Quote: frezer

Can you give more details. At what range do the c400 detect f22 and f35?

I didn’t ask such a question.

But in vain, because this is the most important.
Any stealth can be seen, but the detection range matters. If the stealth enters the missile launch zone unnoticed, then wait for trouble.
This is the concept of stealth fighter-bombers.

[kventinasd]

I’ll definitely ask you how to meet, but I think not everyone has been told something similar to disclose (he served in the ZAS air defense), although I know from them that they constantly improve and correct something there.

[Rusticolus]

Then a counter question should arise, and at what distance will the stealth detect these mobile complexes? And will it turn out to be a range of eye contact?
This is in its own way the concept of mobile complexes.
And from the border of the missile launch zone, you can shoot with impunity only in hospitals and schools.

[SETTGF]

Fraser! The detection range of stealth fighters F-22 and F-35, with the S-500 complex, is not possible to determine - there is no data, secretly ... but, among other things, there is no exact value of the image intensifier tubes (EPR) of the aircraft mentioned above! It is impossible to count, all will be "fed" by rumors!

[helmi8]

Quote: frezer

Can you give more details. At what range do the c400 detect f22 and f35?

Spy? Whoever is supposed to know knows, let the rest guess.

[Yura]

Quote: WATCH_OFFICER

But seriously, who knows what this complex can do.

Well, probably enough that the Ministry of Defense knows for sure. Before ordering these complexes for the Army, they certainly tested everything. And if they are lying, that is, they are not saying it, then only underestimating the characteristics is a common practice. The Chinese know exactly what they are buying, India went aggravating with the United States because of the C 400, and probably why.

[123456789]

Quote: WATCH_OFFICER

We don’t even fully know what the S-400 can do, which is already everywhere and everywhere, and here the S-500, which is only in the future ...

So for this, the Chinese, Turks, Arabs, Indians buy ... to know Curiosity fee

[XXXIII]

Are the S-500 capable of shooting down satellites and F-35. American Media reflect

Probably capable of shooting down not only satellites but also meteorites .... They generally say that the S-200 Syrian air defense scratched the new Israeli F-35 (Lockheed Martin F-35 Piece II), the pilot turned out to be a master at dodging air defense missiles, for many years of training gave the result ....
ps. Israeli Defense Ministry did not confirm this fact, citing the secrecy of the aircraft .....
Soon the Armed Forces of Russia ...

[Strips]

Quote: XXXIII

ps. Israeli Defense Ministry did not confirm this fact, citing the secrecy of the aircraft ....

Which fact? What nonsense are you writing?

[Maz]

Quote: kventinasd

After the introduction of sanctions by amers, the progress in Russia in the military-industrial complex became noticeable even to the naked eye. We Russians always need a roasted cock. Well, it just so happened. Americans more than fulfill this role. I am sure firsthand that the S-500 will show amers where the crayfish hibernate ... and not only 500 hundred .... In short, put them a hedgehog in their pants, let them feel ...
The 90th has sunk into oblivion - it’s not a shame for the Power.

It’s not a shame for a power, a shame for gasoline and the dollar, but seeing c500 is more important

[Yura]

Quote: Maz

It’s not a shame for a power, a shame for gasoline and the dollar, but seeing c500 is more important

Write an article about gasoline and the dollar, we will be offended together.

[kunstkammer]

Quote: Aron Zaavi

Its rockets will be so expensive that no one will even spend them on fifth generation aircraft

will be ... will be ... as they will be. As soon as they find out that such and such an airplane is flying straight to Barvikha or Rublevka ... they will throw it with bentles and cadillacs, and not just with expensive missiles!
These missiles will only protect ... well, the one who needs to be protected. For the sake of their own safety, they can also Mutko instead of a rocket shoot ... but why? Let them finally work out the confidence of the Sunlike!

[Samara_63]

We should be more afraid of their CD ...

[kunstkammer]

Quote: Jura

Well, probably enough that the Ministry of Defense knows for sure

This is not supposed to be known to native citizens. And if the Ministry of Defense "knows for sure" then the Americans after them were the second to know ... or, in extreme cases, through the Israeli partner.
Or is someone else in doubt? Hello!

[nathanael]

Why are you guessing ... To test as soon as possible .. Kill some satellite

[Hiller]

Can they also reflect ???

[K-50]

US media are speculating: are the S-500 capable of shooting down satellites and the F-35?

here as in a joke with Vasily Ivanovich Chapaev. What to ponder? You have to try !!
So, you are flying, and we will shoot at you. If we’re not beaten, it means we’re not capable of it;

[Ros 56]

NI immediately draws a picture of how the 77H6-H and 77H6-H1 CMS X-NUMX Prometheus will threaten American F-500 and F-22 aircraft.

Yes, the S-500 will not threaten the Fu-22,35, it will simply turn them on the occasion into rags of metal and plastic debris, it’s all business. Does anyone think that the Americans invented the Russians will not be able to destroy. The question is different, that the destruction of these Fucalock was guaranteed in quality and cheap in cost.

[Andriy Πrivals]

The hype around the S-500 recalls the sad story of Zircon. They also talked about it, talked about sky-high opportunities, while in an interview Herbert Efremov, a specialist in machine-building NGOs, said that there were no achievements in the field of hypersound in Russia and no problems had been solved to create such weapons, and an unhealthy excitement had been created in the media.
So I think there are no achievements in the field of kinetic interceptions in Russia. Today, the S-400 can’t shoot down even a 300km short-range missile with a direct hit, and here the S-500 is supposed to be able to intercept ICBMs already. Despite the fact that the Americans who invested dozens of yards and decades of testing for today can not intercept the ICBMs at the terminal stage. The new THAAD can only intercept medium-range missiles with the new IR siker, the new radar on GaN. Despite the fact that in Russia, very modest successes in IR matrices and GaN radars are only probably in the plans for the distant future.

[Yura]

Quote: Andriy Uryvalov

Today, the S-400 cannot bring down a direct hit even a short-range missile 300km,

Where is the ringing? Facts? Link at least?

Quote: Andriy Uryvalov

and here supposedly the S-500 will be able to intercept ICBMs already.

Can not worry, can.

[asv363]

Quote: Andriy Uryvalov

in Russia

Learn to write correctly: in Russia.

[Vadim237]

Russia already has hypersonic missiles with scramjet engines in the iron - soon they will be shown to everyone.

[SETTGF]

Andriy Πrivals! Before writing nonsense, read more technical literature ... Radar with AFAR Belka on the Su-57 is made on GaN for a long time. And also about the IR matrix ... and the S-500 will have missiles in its arsenal and shoot down targets with a direct hit, according to the terms of reference! That’s true in Ukraine there is nothing like that yet - can the United States share with you ?!

[sivuch]

Today, the S-400 can not bring down a direct hit even a short-range missile 300km
Well, right, she has a warhead for this. SAM is harder - so for ground-based air defense systems this is not critical.

[macgyver]

I think the S-500 can make the F-35 a satellite, and its pilot an astronaut ... if necessary.

[Xscorpion]

Quote: Aaron Zawi

Quote: Sergerius

Intrigued that they can’t sleep! Guessing, reasoning their mother)))

You can shoot down the F-35 from the Shell if it falls into the sight. It seems to me that the emphasis is not correctly placed on what C-500 is. This is primarily a mobile missile defense system. Its missiles will be so expensive that no one will even spend them on fifth-generation aircraft. For this and C-400 for the eyes.

Do you think that our military counts everything in money? And each anti-aircraft gunner has a calculator and a price list with the prices of potential targets? The target price does not matter. There is such a thing as prevented damage.

[voyaka uh]

New in the S-500 is a long-range missile. The task is to shoot down satellites from low orbits.
There is no new radar. A new radar was made for the S-400. There is no kinetic interception. The same fragmentation. Shards for warhead ICBM - elephant shot.
S-500 is a step forward in missile defense, but there is nothing super.

[Beltasir matyagu]

There people are not dumber than you

[voyaka uh]

I have no doubt that very smart people work in Almaz-Antey.
But they are limited by the level of electronics that is in their
disposal. But they are required to "miracles", and they have to
bluff a little so that funding is not reduced.

[XXXIII]

Quote: voyaka uh

New in the S-500 is a long-range missile. The task is to shoot down satellites from low orbits.
There is no new radar. A new radar was made for the S-400. There is no kinetic interception. The same fragmentation. Shards for warhead ICBM - elephant shot.
S-500 is a step forward in missile defense, but there is nothing super.

The project is secret, that no one knows new or old there, what assumptions can be made here, when the S-400 has not yet been tested on new products from Lockheed ...

Quote: voyaka uh

New in the S-500 is a long-range missile.

Not just new ones, but they are focusing on them, more than once hinted at it, what kind of new rocket is known only to developers. But we can assume that it will be a rocket of a completely different principle of action, for example, this ....

The Alabuga missile, which will be able to disable all enemy electronics in a radius of 3,5 km.

Nowadays, electronics has strengths and weaknesses, the weak side is the impact of EMR, I hope in F-35 Lockheed took into account this detail ....

[kventinasd]

but there’s nothing super.

Where to our military-industrial complex, only in Srail and their owners everything is super-duper.

[asv363]

Quote: voyaka uh

There is no kinetic interception. The same fragmentation. Shards for warhead ICBM - elephant shot.

Consider the performance with special. Warhead? Or will we indiscriminately scream all the weapons of Russia?

[SETTGF]

voyaka uh! Are you sure radar is not a new development ?! The radar is brand new and do not have illusions therefore the question! In the arsenal there will be new missiles with new GOS and with direct kinetic interception of the target, according to the technical task ... look at the YouTube interview of designers. Do not wishful thinking! We all can only speculate and no more ...

[Dimon]

Quote: voyaka uh

Shards for warhead ICBM - elephant shot.

what speed will the pellet have?

[Beltasir matyagu]

It seems to me that the f35 can even bring down the c300, and if you fit a new radar, then just about anything. Here the unification is not weak in the S family. Surely the missiles are compatible and replacing the control center with a light motion radar turns the c300 into something more. I am not an expert, but in his place I would have foreseen it in advance

[Xscorpion]

Quote: voyaka uh

New in the S-500 is a long-range missile. The task is to shoot down satellites from low orbits.
There is no new radar. A new radar was made for the S-400. There is no kinetic interception. The same fragmentation. Shards for warhead ICBM - elephant shot.
S-500 is a step forward in missile defense, but there is nothing super.

He just has the ability to shoot down satellites. But why the hell to waste one missile on one satellite? One is not the most powerful high-altitude nuclear explosion and all satellites within a radius of thousands of kilometers will fall.

[Golovan Jack]

Quote: Xscorpion

One is not the most powerful high-altitude nuclear explosion and all satellites within a radius of thousands of kilometers will fall themselves.

I can not deny myself the pleasure. Catch:

Quote: Lance

... Earlier, the Americans decided not to trifle at all and rushed over their territory in low orbit to a vigorous fool, if memory serves, megatons and a half ...
Not only that, in some of their cities, all the lights on the lanterns burst, they also carried out a third (!) Of the satellite constellation in low orbits, both ours and ours, with an explosion (EMP).

On a note of the Union in the style of "What are you, morons ?!" ", the Americans replied," Do not deny ", after which such" experiments "ceased.
But the dead satellites still smoked space for a long time, until they left their orbits ...

[net0103net]

Yes, they shoot down, but they will threaten! ... already threatening)

[Hadji Murat]

actually these pieces of iron called f 22 and 35 are threatened by both the s-300 and the more so s-400

[DRA-75]

but also, according to media reports, to detect aircraft, which today are considered invisible.

Well, your "invisibles" in Yugoslavia were shot down by the old Soviet air defense .. How much time has passed gentlemen! Want to test us for a tooth? Try it, but our anti-aircraft defense will manifest itself only with a mass raid and invasion .. So "sweat for now" and think whether it is worth declaring a "crusade" again to Russia!

[Andriy Πrivals]

Why was it possible to shoot down stealth aircraft into the zones of Soviet air defense for several thousand flights only once ??? It turns out to bring down stealth is how to win a lottery.
This means that a pilot’s mistake is possible that did not adhere to the radio silence, flew at low altitude, forgot to turn off the transponder, or there was a technical malfunction.

[sivuch]

Shaw, again?
In Yugoslavia, several thousand BVs were not even close. And besides one shot down, there was one who was injured. And most importantly, are you at least approximately aware of exactly what Soviet air defense was in the south?
After all, all this has already been rubbed 100 times

[vfvlasov]

S-500 technique is good. But it is dangerous for military technology development until 2000!
An aerospace, hypersonic, invisible to radar aircraft type TR-3B and its many modifications will easily destroy any air and space target. These devices move in dense layers of the atmosphere, at an altitude of 10 km at a speed of 5-10 km per second. they easily run away from any hypersonic missiles, and catch up with any hypersonic missiles. In space, they fly at a speed of more than 50 km per second. They will bring a thermonuclear charge to Moscow in 3-4 minutes from the USA, from the EU in a minute !!
In Russia, this technology appeared in the late 80s, the United States stole it and successfully made it, but our stupid top bureaucrats still do not want to introduce it. Probably really hope to escape to the United States and live a rich life there, with stolen money? Do not have time!

[vfvlasov]

F-35 may well bring down. Satellites at an altitude of 100 km, well, maybe 150 km can also sometimes get it. But the TR-3B will not reach and not catch up. They can fly into space at an altitude of more than 3000 km, moreover, they are invisible to radars altogether. They fly up to the ISS, the ISS radars do not detect them. They wave to the Americans, chat with them, laugh over the Russians and fly away. And all the fools admire the UFO flying up to the ISS !!!