Nuclear circumcision (part of 2)

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But what is the deal with these ideas about the transformation of the most common type of nuclear weapon in the US Armed Forces into a "nuclear eunuch." Given the irreplaceableness (of course, not forever, of course) for the US nuclear weapons and decent wane rates (for the first year of Trump's rule - 354 charge, or 9%), it is clear that in the next decade the decline will not stop. And somewhere around the end of the decade, the “pit” will be quite deep already. In 2030 (s) (supposed), production will be restored to one degree or another. Unless, of course, the dates do not "float" again.

There is also such an interesting point. Americans have the bulk of warheads traditionally placed on the SSBN. And the Ohio-type SSBNs, and they will gradually begin to be written off from 2026. This is despite ongoing resource extension programs and the upgrading of these very good missile carriers with excellent missiles (the Trident-2 can be considered one of the masterpieces of underwater ballistic missile engineering along with 29RMU-2.1 "Blue-2" / "Liner" or, say, P-30 "Mace").



As we see from the schedule, after repairs and reloading of the active zones to 2020, the number of missile carriers in the ranks will be maximum, 14, but after 2026, the ship will fall to 1 a year, and so on until 2031, when it is planned to enter The construction of the first SSBN type "Columbia" in a series of 12 pieces. The schedule is designed so that the number of missile carriers does not fall below 10, but already now there are very serious concerns in the United States that it will be sustained. The program has traditionally been for the US military-industrial complex growing in price, and the terms threaten to move.


Schedule for the replacement of American SSBNs. The squares with numbers are the submarines of the Ohio type and the numbers of the ships, the squares with the X are the submarines of the type Columbia


At the same time, it’s not at all the fact that the START-2021 Treaty, which ends at 3, which provided for the levels of carriers and charges, both superpowers reached this year only, will be extended. Despite the obvious profitability of his Russia, he, in general, is beneficial to both parties, because neither the Russian Federation, which has a formal reason to make START-3 a handle even tomorrow (the US missile defense policy), will not leave it before the deadline, nor the US, who likes to grumble about almost "enslavement" of the contract. It can be seen, since Russia didn’t allow any inconvenient moments for itself, the contract immediately became inert. But the fact that in 2021, it will be extended or will be a new START-4 or otherwise known as a proxy agreement, is very hard to believe, with the current relations and trends of their development. Relationships are developing as positively as the American nuclear arsenal. Although, of course, sudden warming should not be excluded.

That is, Russia can be a never-related numerical limits of the contract. And if 15 years ago, we would speak about it from every angle that we cannot afford to increase our arsenals, but the United States - at least as much as you like, very quickly (remember these speeches, probably), now the situation is somewhat opposite. The reasons for this and the previous reading this material does not need to explain the topic. Of course, we don’t draw money, but Russia has both production and financial capabilities to increase its arsenals, of course, if necessary. And the United States has the second, but the problems with the first and second can not be solved quickly.

And there are already the first bells to the fact that Russia is already planning the development of its strategic nuclear forces based on the non-renewal of the START regime, but also leaving room for the preservation of the treaty regime. Recent news about "canceling" the construction of SSBN Ave.955B (4 number), and replacing them with 6 SSBX of an additional series 955A Ave (955B efficiency was not so much higher than the upgraded 955А than the price) - from the same series. As a result, by the end of 2020's we get the grouping of “Boreev” in 3 pieces and “Boreev” in 11 pieces, with 224 SLBM “Bulava” with 1344 BB (6 per rocket), that is, almost the entire START-3 limit can be selected only these submarine-missile. It is clear that it is possible to place a smaller number of charges per rocket to get into the limit, but they really want to have a lot of ships, obviously they don’t hope for the Treaty. It would be enough and 11-12. Or they are hoping for another new treaty, with higher limits, for which the United States will be extremely difficult to handle with their situation.

And the recent news that soon the group of monoblock old Topol type PGRKs will be finally replaced by the Yars series ICBM, and this, by the way, if we deduct two regiments now being transferred to Yars, there will be 7-8 regiments, that is, before the 72 MBR. A "Yars" is, as you know, to 6 BB, even if it is on duty, as it is supposed, with 4 BB. And there may come the turn and monoblock Topol-M in the mine and mobile versions, and this is 78 missiles. In general, along with the upcoming deployment of "Sarmats" instead of "Governor" (if everything works out with 2020) and other unpleasant news for Americans like ICBMs 15 and XXNXX-35 with Avgard (in 71) will be officially announced deployed, it seems that Americans will not be up to experiments with the castling of thermonuclear warheads for political reasons.

When I read the news about low-capacity warheads on one of our news resources for the first time, this phrase, which was pretty surprising, rushed to my eyes too. And with reference to Christensen.

"On the other hand, instead of W76-2, W80-1 could be used, the circular probable deviation of which is equal to 30 meters ..."


After reading this phrase, for some reason I immediately thought that Mr. Christensen completely lost his hold and forgot or didn’t know that the nuclear warhead W80-1 for airborne artillery systems of the AGM-86 type cannot be used on the Trident-2 SLBM "and even if we take the actual" physical package ", then the combat unit will have to be recreated. And the QUO does not depend on the charge, but on the carrier, nevertheless, and if on a cruise missile it was such, then in a ballistic missile it will be completely different. But reading the original source convinced that Mr. Christensen is still not completely bad, and our translators have a problem understanding the text. Christensen writes a completely different story. The fact is that in the unrealizable plans announced by the military-political leadership there is also the development of a naval cruise missile with a nuclear charge. It is theoretically possible to release a series of nuclear "Tomahawks", not so long ago finally turned into non-nuclear ones, although why, even if purchases of conventional "Tomahawks" are temporarily suspended (apparently, due to their "success" in strikes against Syria, they took a pause for modernization)? Especially since there are no charges for them - they have long been destroyed. And for a promising sea-based CD, there is also nowhere to take charges - they are not there. Americans will develop a rocket.

So, Christensen believes, and this is clearly his personal opinion that the charge of W80-1 from aviation KR can be adapted to marine KR. There are doubts about this - missiles are very different, and it was not for nothing that at one time aviation missiles had nuclear warheads developed only for them, while naval and ground-based missiles were essentially charged with closely related charges. But even if such an alteration were possible, then this would be another "Trishkin kaftan" in a nuclear fashion. There are relatively few charges of this type, and air-based nuclear missile systems are now in arsenals somewhat less than is necessary even for a full salvo of B-52N bombers, and not all of them, namely those used as carriers (there are also testing and training vehicles). And all these charges are intended, according to official documents of the NNSA and the US Department of Energy, to be converted to the W80-4 modification for the promising air-launched missile launcher. And the US Air Force simply will not allow the US Navy to "squeeze" such a valuable resource, and their political influence "at court" will completely allow them. Even if the Navy had more influence, and it would have been possible to take away a few charges (they simply won’t give much, there aren’t any), such a castling of charges would only reduce the number of charges in the US strategic nuclear forces, because naval missiles are not strategic forces.

But this is unlikely to happen, although in the current realities, when the “unwinding” of some powerful military-political action in the mass media is more important than its real geopolitical effect, anything is possible.

In the meantime, it became known that the US Congress rejected the amendment by a majority vote, drastically cut funding for the development W76-2. Obviously, this "difficult" feeds a lot of development right people.

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  1. +13
    12 June 2018 05: 08
    It may well be that the American nuclear weapons are experiencing some problems that do not allow it to be used in their traditional form ... Well, they don’t get used to it ... And now nuclear nuclear ones have appeared along with sexual minorities ...
    1. +2
      12 June 2018 10: 54
      That said so said. Original. You ++++ !!!
  2. +1
    12 June 2018 10: 53
    Saw, gentlemen, saw ... And more. It is clear who these ultra-small charges are against. It’s they who are preparing attacks on Iran and the DPRK. For countries that can’t plunge into the "shining hail on a hill," as they then "carried" Japan and Germany, sitting in safety "overseas" ...
  3. +1
    12 June 2018 15: 07
    5-6 ktn plutonium nuclear charge with a huge release of radioactivity in the 21 century is nonsense.

    The precision thermonuclear charge with a power of 100 tons is much more effective, which is a standard tritium-deuterium detonator of full-fledged thermonuclear charges. Radioactivity is guaranteed to be zero (with the exception of induced in the ground).

    The precision charge is very compact (the size of a baseball) and light (less than 1 kg), can be delivered to the target by sabotage methods or using a rocket-propelled grenade, as well as any ammunition without exception. For example, with the help of this charge, any existing torpedo can easily break in half any aircraft carrier.

    100 tons - what is needed for delivering targeted strikes to control and communications points, an air defense system, military bases, terrorist bases, ammunition and fuel depots, bridges, ports, airfields, etc.

    The only drawback of the tritium-deuterium thermonuclear charge is the relatively rapid decay of tritium to deuterium (in about 2,5 of the year), which forces us to constantly produce new tritium and replace charges on ammunition.
    1. +3
      12 June 2018 17: 35
      which is a standard tritium-deuterium detonator of full fusion charges. Radioactivity is guaranteed to be zero (with the exception of induced in the ground).

      And how will you set it on fire?
      The precision charge is very compact (the size of a baseball) and light (less than 1 kg)

      Wow. Yes you, my friend, but a science fiction, cleaner than Jules Verne.
      1. +1
        12 June 2018 17: 41
        Quote: Grille
        how will you set fire to it?

        Explosive implosion of a very pure and very accurate (precision, however) charge of a chemical explosive, which compresses the sphere with tritium and deuterium by three orders of magnitude at a speed of 8 km / s.

        About the dimensions and weight of Google’s tritium-deuterium detonator to help.
        1. +4
          12 June 2018 18: 07
          Explosive implosion of a very pure and very accurate (precision, however) charge of a chemical explosive, which compresses the sphere with tritium and deuterium by three orders of magnitude at a speed of 8 km / s.

          No chemical explosives are able to create the conditions for the emergence of a fusion reaction.
          Physics textbook to help.
          1. +1
            12 June 2018 18: 33
            A strong electric discharge?
            Like the simultaneous "explosion" of several supercapacitors?
            1. +5
              12 June 2018 20: 10
              A strong electric discharge?

              The fact of the matter is that for the fusion reaction it is necessary to bring the nuclei closer to distances at which strong nuclear interaction will begin to prevail over the Coulomb repulsion. This requires tremendous energy and temperature. In a thermonuclear bomb, the fuse is a classic nuclear charge built on the principle of fission of unstable isotopes of heavy elements. It is he who provides a temperature of the order of tens of millions of degrees and a compression speed of thousands of km / s.
              For thirty years, experiments have been conducted on crimping using laser systems, but as far as I know, the results are extremely unstable.
          2. -2
            12 June 2018 19: 17
            Quote: Grille
            No chemical explosives are able to create conditions for the emergence of a fusion reaction

            One that can constructively compress a gaseous mixture of tritium with deuterium to a “point” in 1 million fractions of a second can (with an efficiency of less than unity, of course).
            1. +1
              12 June 2018 20: 10
              Quote: Operator
              One that can constructively compress a gaseous mixture of tritium with deuterium to a “point” in 1 million fractions of a second can (with an efficiency of less than unity, of course).

              And do not share the brand?
              1. -1
                13 June 2018 14: 11
                Highly pure octogen.
                1. +3
                  14 June 2018 09: 38
                  And you know, I saw such a thing:

                  That's just in the movies ...
                  No octogen (and what it can be read here: http://saper.isnet.ru/mines-3/oktogen.html) will not burn deuterium-tritium mixture, especially gaseous, to the state of fusion launch. Stupidly enough energy.
                  Once again I repeat, study physics and do not smack nonsense, otherwise animal defenders will be interested in you ...
    2. +2
      12 June 2018 21: 43
      Quote: Operator
      A precision charge is very compact (the size of a baseball) and light (less than 1 kg), maybe ...

      Sorry, an "ultra-precise" charge is certainly good ... BUT !!! here's the question: what are you going to set fire to "thermonuclear fuel" (BB), if a temperature of the order of 40 million degrees C is needed to start the fusion reaction (thermonuclear!) of light atoms? This is firstly!
      And secondly, how thick should the product (charge) body be in order to withstand the terrible pressure of a nuclear fuse in an instant (microsecons !!!) in order for at least part of the fuel to react?
      Now stick these two conditions into your "1 kg of weight" ... Grab the gist? Or, still, wake the "blah blah show" on the site sculpt !? am
      Learn physics! Good science, vital! laughing
      PS Of course, you can "set fire to" the thermonuclear poison with the help of a laser ... But it will be difficult for you to carry such an installation behind you even on a tank. Yes
      1. +1
        12 June 2018 22: 41
        here's the question: what are you going to set fire to "thermonuclear fuel" (BB),

        Honestly, the presence of an explosive capable of launching a fusion makes nuclear weapons, in general, unnecessary.
        But it will be difficult for you to carry such an installation behind you even on a tank. yes

        The tank does not work. An installation with laser compression is an extremely complex design with the dimensions of a good two-story house.
        1. 0
          12 June 2018 23: 30
          "capable of launching a fusion, makes, in general, and not necessary nuclear weapons as such" ///

          This is the temptation: a thermonuclear explosion without the presence of plutonium or uranium ...
          And without residual radiation.
          1. 0
            13 June 2018 04: 31
            This is the temptation: a thermonuclear explosion without the presence of plutonium or uranium ...

            To want is not harmful, it is harmful not to want. Another conversation is that we do not live in one far-distant galaxy and the laws of physics have not been canceled for us ...
            1. 0
              13 June 2018 10: 28
              Thanks for the posts! drinks It was interesting.
      2. -1
        13 June 2018 14: 21
        Quote: Boa constrictor KAA
        "super precise" ... wake up

        As for you, with an understanding of the Russian language: a thermonuclear charge based on a tritium-deuterium detonator is called not ultra-precise, but precision - in the sense of the technology for manufacturing an implosive charge of a chemical explosive.

        The word "be" is written through "e" - before talking about millions of degrees and microseconds, learn the spelling of the Russian language, and only then we will talk about tritium and why when implosively compressing its small volume in a millionth of a second, there is pressure and temperature sufficient to cause a reaction synthesis.

        PS Yes - and at the same time find out why the reactor of a nuclear power plant is "slightly" different in weight and dimensions from a nuclear charge laughing
    3. 0
      14 June 2018 14: 52
      I would like to have details about such a charge. With a baseball and weighs less than a kilogram. Just like a ball. But there is no air in it. The critical mass is that of uranium, that plutonium is more than 20 kg. If you make neutron screens and neutron irradiators, then the critical mass can be reduced to literally hundreds of grams. But the screens themselves and the irradiators themselves are far from air. We need a system that includes them in the work. These are electromagnetic blenkers, power supplies. Each blender weighs at least 100 grams. And he is not alone. Plus a compressive charge of a conventional explosive. Plus deuterium with tritium. Also not in the form of gas, as I believe, but in the form of a compound with lithium. The specific gravity of this extremely complex, albeit miniature, system will be much more than one. And a kilogram will not pull. Five kilograms, no less. Another question, what is the equivalent of 100tn? I would be grateful for the answer.
      1. +1
        14 June 2018 15: 21
        The critical mass is that of uranium, that plutonium is more than 20 kg.

        And what is the critical mass? You know?
      2. 0
        14 June 2018 15: 35
        We are talking about the dimensions and weight of a thin-walled spherical capsule of beryllium filled with a gas mixture of tritium and deuterium - golf ball / 1 kg. Reagents - exclusively in the form of gas in order to ensure the greatest possible degree of compression (the metal shell acts as a pusher), therefore, no solid lithium hydride.

        There are three chips in a precision charge:
        - tritium as an element with the smallest energy threshold for the synthesis to enter the reaction, de facto a fresh charge consists practically of tritium, deuterium appears in the process of self-decay of the first;
        - especially pure octogen;
        - particularly accurate (precision) constructive implementation of the capsule, the octogen charge and the device for its detonation.

        The dimensions / weight of HMX and the equipment for explosive implosion of the capsule can be estimated at the level of the rugby ball / 10 kg.

        The synthesis of the indicated volume of tritium and deuterium with an efficiency of the order of 10% equivalent to the explosion 200 (fresh mixture) - 100 (mixture after 2,5 years) tons of trinitrotoluene.
        1. 0
          14 June 2018 16: 07
          Well do not mind you nonsense? She is alive and pained ...
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    4. 0
      12 August 2018 19: 28
      Yeah, hike all my school and college knowledge of physics, it's time to throw in the trash ..
      No, well, if everything is as you say, then even A. Einstein was deeply mistaken both in general in the theory of relativity and in the well-known formula E = mc ^ 2.
      And the designer of atomic and thermonuclear bombs generally just ate bread for nothing ..
  4. +2
    12 June 2018 17: 27
    As far as I understand, the W85 c B-61 in the “Tomahawk” stick to fail. And the W-84 is already sort of decommissioned and disposed of. It is necessary to create a Pershing type of ballistic missile system. Reducing the power of warheads at the strategic nuclear forces, turning them into an ersatz-TNW is simply stupid (especially considering the impossibility of producing new warheads in the next decade). All the same, it cannot be used as tactical nuclear weapons - the carrier is strategic and its launch will entail obvious consequences - a full-sized answer to everything that exists.
    In a good way, Americans need something supersonic, such as our Caliber or Iskander, to put the remaining W85s from the essentially useless B-61s and place this economy in Eastern Europe. Ideally, the resulting rocket would fit in mk.41. This would be more effective than mocking the Tridents.
    Naturally, even an attempt to implement any of the above will lead to the immediate termination of the agreement on the RMND.
    1. +2
      12 June 2018 22: 59
      Quote: Fedor Egoist
      to put there the remaining W85 from the essentially useless B-61

      You are a little wrong. In essence, when it was necessary to create a maneuvering warhead for Pershing II, the charge was taken from the nuclear bombs of the B-61 mod. 3 / 4. And when Pershing under the RSMD agreement, go under the knife, then their BG (W85) were used to make charges for the B-61 bomb mod.10. In this case, the warhead has a variable power within 5-80Kt.
      1. 0
        13 June 2018 11: 21
        I didn’t understand what I’m a little wrong about)
        As for how W85 is being used now, I am in the know, thanks. The fact is that free-falling bombs in conflict with the Russian Federation do not have any significant probability of reaching their destination. That is, there is an inefficient placement of this warhead. But this is not from a good life - the Americans have no other carriers yet. To somehow "threaten a neighbor," they need a ballistic missile system or at least supersonic CR.
        The Russian Federation also has free-falling nuclear bombs in its arsenal, but we can afford it in view of the richest nomenclature for nuclear weapons.
  5. +2
    12 June 2018 18: 29
    America is not very worried about reducing its nuclear arsenal.
    They have strong conventional forces. A lot of ships and planes. A lot of exact
    and long-range conventional weapons. Their emerging military tasks they successfully
    perform without nuclear weapons.
    And in Russia, nuclear forces are the trump card. Therefore, they are so kind to the number of missiles,
    to the power of warheads and their number.
    1. 0
      13 June 2018 11: 51
      And in Russia, nuclear forces are the trump card.

      Naturally. There is nothing else available to your understanding.
      1. MPN
        +6
        13 June 2018 23: 02
        Quote: Grille
        And in Russia, nuclear forces are the trump card.

        Naturally. There is nothing else available to your understanding.

        Ya versus arrogance and unscrupulousness, that’s it !!! Yes
  6. 0
    12 June 2018 19: 33
    Super, I really liked it. I hope the author will describe the topic of ultra-pure thermonuclear charges of the XNUMXth generation and the so-called charges with laser implosion.
    1. 0
      12 June 2018 22: 39
      Quote: merkava-2bet
      Super, I really liked it. I hope the author will describe the topic of ultra-pure thermonuclear charges of the XNUMXth generation and the so-called charges with laser implosion.

      And he will describe ... and show ... and he brings him to the workshop ... and he will allow me to touch! And even with it will give out a few pieces !! You are only in line, in line you become ...
      1. 0
        12 June 2018 23: 19
        I hope it was a joke, otherwise I’ll buy it directly.
  7. 0
    13 June 2018 08: 02
    IMHO, all this whistle of Americans with ultra-small nuclear charges only to stick short-range and medium-range missiles into Europe. Only housewives can believe in fairy tales about such charges on "tridents".
  8. 0
    13 June 2018 14: 31
    Quote: voyaka uh
    Russia has nuclear forces - the trump card

    Think correctly: 900 tons of Soviet weapons-grade plutonium is an order of magnitude greater than all other countries in the world bully
  9. +2
    13 June 2018 16: 44
    Quote: g1washntwn
    IMHO, all this whistle of Americans with ultra-small nuclear charges only to stick short-range and medium-range missiles into Europe. Only housewives can believe in fairy tales about such charges on "tridents".

    Well, why only housewives. The same British boats have one mine completely empty, the second with one warhead of reduced power, the rest of the missiles carry a reduced number compared to the standard number of warheads. And this very same missile with a low-power charge is designed specifically to deliver a “surgical” strike on the target in case of something. But for some reason, almost everyone perceives this concept against Russia. Not at all. The United States itself has a ton of enemies, which, if necessary, will have to be delivered with a “surgical” strike without using megaton charges ... And nothing will hinder, for example, having on the same Ohio a pair of missiles with warheads (or a warhead) such power ....
  10. +1
    13 June 2018 22: 30
    Quote: Operator
    Quote: voyaka uh
    Russia has nuclear forces - the trump card

    Think correctly: 900 tons of Soviet weapons-grade plutonium is an order of magnitude greater than all other countries in the world bully

    Andrey, stop flogging nonsense (it still hurts). It may be that in your parallel reality Russia / USSR had 900 tons of weapons-grade plutonium, but in our reality, since the end of World War II, 1270 tons have been accumulated in reactors, of which 270 tons are suitable for the production of nuclear weapons. Of these 270 tons, the USSR / Russia accounted for various estimates from 140-150-162 tons to 170 tons. Americans have an estimated 85 to 103 tons of weapons grade plutonium. The rest - on the little things. The British about 7,6, France from 6 to 7 tons, China from 1,7 to 2.8 tons. And you have Russia / USSR has an unrealistic amount of plutonium. Still, you need to be careful with the numbers, Andrey
    1. 0
      13 June 2018 23: 04
      One must be able to count: 170 tons is plutonium production only at domestic specialized water-graphite thermal neutron reactors like ADE (all are closed to date, as well as their foreign counterparts).

      And how much plutonium has been produced by domestic BN-type fast-neutron power water reactors (there are no foreign analogues) is known only to the Supreme Commander-in-Chief of the RF Armed Forces.
    2. 0
      17 September 2018 02: 13
      Quote: Old26
      , China from 1,7 to 2.8 tons.

      It's funny, you scolding Andrei, and you have such data on China skipping!
      Who told you that China produced so little plutonium?
      The PRC never reports to anyone about its nuclear materials, warheads and strategic carriers. The principle they have is very reasonable.
      Where does this 1.7-2.8 ton come from?
      You stood at the doors of Chinese factories and reactors, counted their uranium and plutonium?
      Or maybe those American "experts" like Hans Christensen from FAS stood there and counted? They are talking about these miserable 2-3 tons and 220-300 warheads of the PRC for 20 years now, feeding the whole world, by the way in the 90s they talked about 434 warheads (namely 434, not 435 - what an accuracy!). Here is such a kindergarten (I think the American military has other data), but the whole world nevertheless haws this misinformation. Recently, the storyteller Hans had a topic about the alleged lack of tritium in China, he also allegedly "counted" tritium (he apparently does not know how much tritium Canada receives from CANDU reactors and how many of these Canadian CANDU reactors China has built).
      But China is satisfied: it does not need to negotiate with anyone about reducing nuclear weapons - it has less of it than Britain allegedly!
      Another expert: retired Colonel-General Viktor Yesin, former chief of the General Staff of the Strategic Missile Forces, professor of the Russian Academy of Military Sciences thinks differently: “... as of 2011, these enterprises could produce up to 40 tons of weapons-grade uranium and about 10 tons of weapons plutonium. This is enough to manufacture about 3600 nuclear warheads (1600 uranium and 2000 plutonium) ". Here is his article: https://vpk-news.ru/articles/8838 since 2012. But nobody notices her! Everyone likes to believe in the assessments of some Christensen, who is not even a scientist and not a nuclear expert even once. And no one needs their grades. We live in a strange world, don't you think?
  11. +1
    14 June 2018 09: 25
    Quote: Operator
    One must be able to count: 170 tons is plutonium production only at domestic specialized water-graphite thermal neutron reactors like ADE (all are closed to date, as well as their foreign counterparts).

    And how much plutonium has been produced by domestic BN-type fast-neutron power water reactors (there are no foreign analogues) is known only to the Supreme Commander-in-Chief of the RF Armed Forces.

    Andrew! Well, if you’ve got into a puddle, you shouldn’t turn the arrows on your opponent, accusing him of not being able to count. I have provided you with estimates. You immediately connected fast reactors to this. But how many of them did we have and their productivity? Or it does not matter. The main thing is to say 900 tons and to delight readers? Therefore, I repeat, do not break rubbish with 900 tons of weapons-grade plutonium ...
    1. 0
      14 June 2018 10: 24
      And I brought you some data - top-secret, or what? laughing
  12. 0
    14 June 2018 15: 11
    Quote: Operator
    And I brought you some data - top-secret, or what? laughing

    Yes, nowhere, in any source there is NO MENTION of 900 tons of Russian weapons-grade plutonium. NO. The maximum estimated value of weapons-grade plutonium in Russia / the USSR is 170 tons. All the rest obtained in the reactors is fuel (plutonium content 240 from 7 to 18%) and reactor (plutonium content 240 more than 19%). The figure of 900 tons is exclusively with you, and no one has more ...

    How long have fast reactors produced? And consider taking into account the reproduction rate equal to approximately 1,2. One of the reactors was launched in February 80 and used uranium as fuel. enriched up to 17 and 26%. The second entered the regime - April 21, 2018 .... How much has worked - count for yourself ....
    1. 0
      14 June 2018 15: 48
      It’s nice to see your comment for once without rudeness in relation to your opponent (“don’t rubbish”, “got into a puddle”, etc.).

      The fact is that for specialized domestic heavy-duty ADE graphite reactors, in most cases, the nominal capacity of 0,5 tons of weapons-grade plutonium per year per reactor is given, while their constant modernization over 40 years of operation allowed to achieve a productivity of at least 1 tons per year (the exact figure is no one will call).

      From this does not follow 170, but not less than 340 tons of accumulated weapons-grade plutonium in the USSR and the Russian Federation. Plus, domestic energy plutonium-239, produced at civilian nuclear power plants as part of SNF, which decades later has already cleared itself of unstable isotopes 238 and 240.

      Too lazy to look for a web link to estimate weapons-grade plutonium reserves in the Russian Federation - from 600 to 900 tons.
  13. 0
    14 June 2018 22: 51
    Quote: Operator
    The fact is that for specialized domestic heavy-duty ADE graphite reactors, in most cases, the nominal capacity of 0,5 tons of weapons-grade plutonium per year per reactor is given, while their constant modernization over 40 years of operation allowed to achieve a productivity of at least 1 tons per year (the exact figure is no one will call).

    Your mistake is, Andrei, that you do not sometimes do double-checking and take to the maximum.
    ADE type reactors initially had thermal power 1600 MW and could produce a year of order 370-396 kg of plutonium per year.
    Subsequently, the reactors were modernized. Reactors are known ADE-1, ADE-2 and ADE-3 modernized at least 1 time (their thermal power reactors became 1900 MW) Reactors of the ADE-4 and ADE-5 type were upgraded to the same capacity.

    The second modernization concerned only reactors ADE-3, ADE-4 and ADE-5. Thermal power has been increased to 2500 MW and plutonium yield per year became about 505-590 kg. About 1 ton per year the question was not and is not worth it. so there are no 340 tons of plutonium produced at these reactors, which averaged 500 kg per year. Reactors gave maximum (more than 500 kg / year) only after the second modernization. Therefore, the numbers of accumulated plutonium "jump" from 140 to 170 tons. But not 340, and especially 900 tons, about which you write

    Quote: Operator
    It’s nice to see your comment for once without rudeness in relation to your opponent (“don’t rubbish”, “got into a puddle”, etc.).

    Andrew, the phrase "do not smack rubbish" - this is not rudeness. This is sometimes a statement of fact. Sorry, but you really often have a smart look (do not be offended), but really shit rubbish ....

    Quote: Operator
    Too lazy to look for a web link to estimate weapons-grade plutonium reserves in the Russian Federation - from 600 to 900 tons.

    From 600 to 900 tons, more precisely from 680 to 900 - estimated reserves of highly enriched Uranus. Uranus, not Plutonium
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    14 September 2018 00: 05
    I was amused by the phrase: "After reading this phrase, for some reason I immediately thought that Mr. Christensen had completely lost his grip and forgot or did not know "- and did he have a grasp? I even wrote about this Hans Christensen in print at one time, discovering that he turns out to be like in the world" the main expert on China's nuclear arsenal. "It is not clear why and why.
    I thoroughly rummaged in the net and found his biography ...
    What can I say? The farther into the forest, the thicker and worse the partisans.
    Skeletons in his closet: https://fas.org/expert/hans-kristensen/
    Hans M Christensen - born in Denmark in 1961, graduated from high school in 1981, functioned in Greenpeace at 1982-1986: National Coordinator, Disarmament Campaign, Greenpeace Denmark. And then a sharp turn: 1991-1996: Senior Researcher, Military Information Unit, Greenpeace International, Washington, DC - i.e. the Danish Greenpeace suddenly in Washington became a military information functionary, and then another sharp turn: 1997-1998: Special Advisor, Danish Defense Commission, Danish Ministry of Defense. From Greenpeace, who is against war, direct to the Danish Ministry of Defense, immediately an adviser!
    Since 1991 of the year he lives in the USA, no scientific degree, no scientific qualifications (even a bachelor's degree) - no, there is a certificate from the usual Danish gymnasium (college) from 1981 of the year (areas: mathematics, biology) - what the hell is he, a scientist?
    From 1998 to 2002 he is a "researcher" at the Nautilus Institute in Berkeley, USA. It's a murky disarmament organization ostensibly sponsored by philanthropists, but just look at the 2011 financials nautilus.org/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/Pages-from-Financial-Report-June-30-2011.pdf to see that 4/5 of the institute's income this year came from US government grants. Such an NGO ...

    Now let's ask a simple question: why does the FAS give assessments to the nuclear arsenals of the PRC on behalf of the Federation of American Scientists Christensen, who is never a scientist, and not American by birth (in 90y he did not have American citizenship yet) ???
    What is there in FAS, there are no normal scientists?
    Yes, definitely there. Christensen himself worked under the leadership of FAS President Charles D. Ferguson, who, at least by birth, is an American and a well-known scientist (a thesis in physics, Boston University), a nuclear safety specialist who began his career as a submarine officer, as nuclear submarine engineer. https://fas.org/expert/charles-d-ferguson/
    What did this president not write about China’s nuclear arsenal?

    I was at a loss until the answer was prompted to me by my Serbian friend from the United States (who, at my request, found out that there is no Nautilus Institute in California at the address indicated on his website). After reading my material, he ironically remarked: "Put yourself in the shoes of those scientists from the FAS - if they are asked to underestimate China's nuclear potential to a mythically low value of 200-300 warheads, relying on some kind of delirium that China does not have enough uranium , plutonium or even tritium, then how should they? Write such nonsense in a scientific article and thus disgrace themselves to the whole world? Yes, after such a mess, no one in the American scientific community will give them a hand - they will say: not scientists, but hackers! not even a scientist, he is not expected in this society anyway, he doesn’t give a shit. He will write any nonsense, they will spit on him, he’ll just rub it off. So he was made in FAS like the chief expert on nuclear weapons, just for this disinformation. "
  15. 0
    20 September 2018 10: 15
    Quote: Grille
    This is the temptation: a thermonuclear explosion without the presence of plutonium or uranium ...

    To want is not harmful, it is harmful not to want. Another conversation is that we do not live in one far-distant galaxy and the laws of physics have not been canceled for us ...

    Americans don’t know about it:
    Let me remind you that the first generation of nuclear weapons is atomic, using only the fission of the heavy nuclei of uranium-235 and plutonium-239.

    The second generation is thermonuclear nuclear weapons, which envisages both a fission reaction of heavy nuclei as a detonator and a thermonuclear fusion reaction of hydrogen isotopes deuterium and tritium. At the same time, the uranium-238 fission reaction under the influence of high-energy neutrons arising from the thermonuclear fusion reaction contributes to an increase in specific power.

    The third generation is the X-ray laser. Its action is based on the pumping of a working fluid with the energy of a nuclear explosion, followed by its emission of X-rays. This weapon did not find military use and was used as a bluff by the Reagan administration in the framework of the Strategic Defense Initiative (SDI) as a missile defense weapon.

    Thus, in all three generations of nuclear weapons there is certainly a fission reaction of heavy nuclei, accompanied by long-term radioactive contamination of the environment. This circumstance is still the guarantor of a high threshold for the use of nuclear weapons even of small and ultra-small power.

    When it comes to nuclear weapons of the fourth generation, we are referring to a purely thermonuclear weapon, the fusion reaction in which is initiated by an alternative reaction of fission by an energy source. It should be quite suitable for carrying out the thermonuclear fusion reaction and compact enough to be placed in the corresponding warhead.

    In American specialized scientific publications and some printed sources of non-governmental organizations involved in arms control issues, the issue of nuclear weapons of the fourth generation is given considerable attention. At the same time, official representatives of the administration categorically deny both the existence of a decision to create a fourth-generation nuclear weapon and the fact that national nuclear laboratories are developing it.

    However, some independent experts (albeit without any specific references) definitely claim that such work is being carried out by nuclear laboratories. For example, Jay Coaglin, director of Nucewatch of New Mexico, says: "There are three nuclear laboratories, and all three have fusion programs - the same or different. This interest is self-evident."

    Briefly, but the main points are complete, the issue of purely thermonuclear weapons is covered in an article by James M. Pethokoukis (H-bomb Baby boom? The US News and World Report, October 13, 2003.): "Activists and researchers say that for a long period of time the green light for research could also be provided by the support of a completely new mini-nuke, the so-called pure thermonuclear bomb. " He is echoed by Jay Coaglan, an expert from New Mexico: "By indulging in mini-nuke, you ... open the door to the creation of even more advanced mini-nuke, such as pure thermonuclear weapons."

    http://nvo.ng.ru/armament/2005-10-14/6_nuclear.html
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    20 September 2018 10: 53
    Quote: Grille
    which is a standard tritium-deuterium detonator of full fusion charges. Radioactivity is guaranteed to be zero (with the exception of induced in the ground).

    And how will you set it on fire?
    The precision charge is very compact (the size of a baseball) and light (less than 1 kg)

    Wow. Yes you, my friend, but a science fiction, cleaner than Jules Verne.

    Yeah, science fiction, or not? laughing tongue wassat http://www.findpatent.ru/patent/257/2572475.html

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