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Tank support fighting vehicle will receive remote detonation ammunition

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The Pribor research and production association, which is part of Techmash, is developing newer ammunition with a remote fuse, said Yuri Nabokov, general manager of the enterprise developer.


Tank support fighting vehicle will receive remote detonation ammunition


According to his statement, ammunition for BMPT Terminator automatic guns of 30 mm caliber is also among the latest developments. The company promises that by the 2020, these ammunition will already be ready for serial production.

Nabokov noted that at present the efforts of the collective of the enterprise are aimed at the completion of work on the creation of an 30 caliber of ammunition of millimeters with a remote undermining. At the moment, the party is already preparing for state tests. In total, the whole cycle should take no more than two years.

Recall that to date, the Ministry of Defense has signed a contract with Uralvagonzavod for the supply of the first batch of BMPT Terminator in the third or fourth quarter of this year, which will immediately go to the ranges of the 90th Guards tank Vitebsk-Novgorod twice the Red Banner Division in the Chelyabinsk region. Experts and the military during the test cycle will determine the forms and methods of using this machine in battle formations in Russia.
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  1. svp67
    svp67 6 June 2018 14: 01
    +8
    The company promises that by 2020, these ammunition will be ready for serial production.
    Well, let's see what they say, and most importantly SHOW, in a couple of years. I would very much like that their words would not go wrong.
    1. ALEXXX1983
      ALEXXX1983 6 June 2018 14: 22
      +3
      Not sure if it makes sense to shove a radio fuse into a 30 mm projectile. Too expensive and not enough room for explosives. In the west they put in a larger 35 mm.
      1. svp67
        svp67 6 June 2018 14: 32
        +4
        Quote: ALEXXX1983
        In the west they put in a larger 35 mm.

        There, the design of the shell is different. Let's see what ours will show ...
        1. ALEXXX1983
          ALEXXX1983 6 June 2018 15: 27
          +1
          Quote: svp67
          Quote: ALEXXX1983
          In the west they put in a larger 35 mm.

          There, the design of the shell is different. Let's see what ours will show ...

          So they also have a more compact fuse, due to smaller radio components manufactured according to the size of the techno process that is still inaccessible (and most likely for a long time) (unless all the parts are in China or where else to order).
      2. Romario_Argo
        Romario_Argo 6 June 2018 15: 17
        0
        There have already been many discussions that not to push the radio fuse into 30 mm, but only fit into 57 mm.
        and then they took it and put it in 30 mm. this is how many orders of magnitude the firepower of our army will rise - BMP, armored personnel carrier, turntables in this caliber, and you do not need to re-equip everything by 57 mm.
    2. bouncyhunter
      bouncyhunter 6 June 2018 14: 32
      +1
      I really hope that such ammunition for the "Shell" are developed in parallel.
      1. svp67
        svp67 6 June 2018 14: 34
        +2
        Quote: bouncyhunter
        I really hope that such ammunition for the "Shell" are developed in parallel.

        You can not even doubt it. Since for them they are more necessary
        1. bouncyhunter
          bouncyhunter 6 June 2018 14: 37
          0
          Quote: svp67
          Since for them they are more necessary

          That is why I mentioned "Shell", which is why I hope and believe.
        2. bouncyhunter
          bouncyhunter 6 June 2018 17: 10
          +1
          Quote: svp67
          I’d rather drive it under her ... so culturally, professionally ... good

          Chesslovo: not a gram would be offended, for I respect the opinion very much Lopatova . hi
      2. san4es
        san4es 6 June 2018 15: 01
        +5
        Healthy Pash hi
        Quote: bouncyhunter
        I really hope that such ammunition for the "Shell" are developed in parallel.

        ... So he takes the same mass of a second volley. fellow .. But for the 57 mm - that’s it.
        1. Nasrat
          Nasrat 6 June 2018 15: 03
          +3
          . But for the 57-mm - that’s it.
        2. bouncyhunter
          bouncyhunter 6 June 2018 15: 04
          +1
          Sanya, salute! hi 30 mm is already in the army, and 57 mm? So why give priority?
          1. san4es
            san4es 6 June 2018 15: 07
            +1
            For BMPT - Yes. for "Shell" - hardly (and so hellish rate of fire)
            1. bouncyhunter
              bouncyhunter 6 June 2018 15: 13
              +2
              Quote: san4es
              and so the rate of fire is hellish

              With an increase in the effectiveness of ammunition, the Shell will only win.
              1. san4es
                san4es 6 June 2018 15: 17
                +2
                Quote: bouncyhunter
                ... With an increase in the effectiveness of ammunition, the Shell will only win.

                Yes .. Only expensive will come out (probably) .. what if only solitary naughty ... smile
                1. bouncyhunter
                  bouncyhunter 6 June 2018 15: 21
                  +2
                  As an option: for firing shells with remote detonation, introduce a rate of fire limiter.
                  1. san4es
                    san4es 6 June 2018 15: 24
                    +2
                    crying .... That is a pity there is no Lopatov, he would have ruined
                    1. bouncyhunter
                      bouncyhunter 6 June 2018 15: 31
                      +2
                      Agree with you . He would quickly plant us in shops. Yes
                      1. svp67
                        svp67 6 June 2018 17: 06
                        +2
                        Quote: san4es
                        What a pity there is no Lopatov, he would have ruined

                        Quote: bouncyhunter
                        He would quickly plant us in the shops

                        I’d rather drive it under her ... so culturally, professionally ... good
                2. Yura Yakovlev
                  Yura Yakovlev 6 June 2018 17: 14
                  0
                  This is the design of the end of the sixties when our industry did not produce microchips.
              2. Romario_Argo
                Romario_Argo 6 June 2018 16: 20
                +2
                With an increase in the effectiveness of ammunition, the "Shell" will only win

                Of course, when the radar command of the cm / mm range gives the command to detonate, the accuracy and economy of the shells will be a multiple ...
                1. svp67
                  svp67 6 June 2018 17: 04
                  +1
                  Quote: Romario_Argo
                  accuracy and saving shells will be a multiple of ...

                  And efficiency. That is the advantage of these shells, the same bk can solve much more fire problems.
                  1. Romario_Argo
                    Romario_Argo 6 June 2018 18: 01
                    0
                    There have already been discussions on this topic, and everyone in the military and in general in the world wrote that it is not possible to put a radio fuse in a 30-mm shell. and our military-industrial complex sent and did all ...
                    1. svp67
                      svp67 6 June 2018 18: 07
                      +1
                      Quote: Romario_Argo
                      and our military-industrial complex sent and did all ...

                      To do little, it is required that it also works normally.
                      Quote: Romario_Argo
                      generally in the world they wrote that it is not possible to put a radio fuse in a 30-mm shell

                      Why? Oerlikon quite successfully experimented with 25-mm shells, although he proved their low power and low stability in flight, which caused a sharp drop in range, and according to their calculations, the smallest possible effective shell is 35 mm. Let's see what our
  2. Alexey-74
    Alexey-74 6 June 2018 14: 06
    0
    Let's see how Terminators will be used in practice. Tactically, their use is new for the RF Armed Forces, despite the successful use in Syria, time will tell.
    1. svp67
      svp67 6 June 2018 17: 17
      0
      Quote: Alexey-74
      Tactically, their use is new for the RF Armed Forces, despite the successful use in Syria, time will tell.

      I do not agree ... It is enough to recall the Chechen wars, if the war in Afghanistan was forgotten. There, instead of them, the Tunguska, Shilka and ZU-2x23 trucks were used
  3. RUSS
    RUSS 6 June 2018 14: 24
    0
    The commander of the battalion "Sparta" of the Armed Forces of the DPR, Vladimir Voha Zhoga, got into a traffic accident on a motorcycle, along with him at the time of the accident was a girl who died on the spot. The battalion commander himself is in intensive care in serious condition.

    “He got into an accident yesterday, now he is in intensive care,” confirmed Eduard Basurin, information about the incident of the deputy commander of the DPR operational command.

    Recall that Vladimir Zhoga headed the Sparta unit of the DPR Armed Forces in 2016 after the death of the battalion commander Arsen Pavlov, better known as Motorola. The new commander became the youngest battalion commander of the Donbass militia.
  4. Zubr
    Zubr 6 June 2018 14: 43
    +1
    Swedes 40im ammunition has already been launched into the series.
  5. san4es
    san4es 6 June 2018 14: 48
    +2
    Tank support fighting vehicle will receive remote detonation ammunition
  6. Kot_Kuzya
    Kot_Kuzya 6 June 2018 14: 50
    0
    Instead of pairing 30 mm cannons, it is necessary to put one 37 mm caliber. Fortunately, shots were fired for 37 mm anti-aircraft guns. 30 mm shell does not have an effective fragmentation shell.
    1. Zubr
      Zubr 6 June 2018 14: 57
      +4
      And even better 57im gun AU-220. And two-tape feed, separately OF, BPS. Plugging in a radio fuse is not a problem and the fragmentation effect will be much more significant.
      1. Zaurbek
        Zaurbek 7 June 2018 08: 13
        0
        There is no tape ...
  7. cordon332
    cordon332 6 June 2018 15: 16
    +2
    [quote = svp67] [quote = bouncyhunter] I really hope that such ammunition for the "Shell" is developed in parallel. [/ quote]
    You can not even doubt it. Since for them they are more necessary
    False. The carapace works with a rate of 5000 rounds per minute and it’s almost pointless to split a 30-mm shell, especially since the range accuracy is not needed. And for the Terminator, jewelry accuracy is needed, because the projectile needs to be blown up over the trench where the grenade launcher is hiding. Therefore, the shells are primarily needed for BMPTs and the fact that they will soon do it perfectly.
  8. tchoni
    tchoni 6 June 2018 15: 48
    0
    Tank support fighting vehicle will receive remote detonation ammunition
    The FSE was waiting for the appearance of BMPT to the people in order to reveal to the public ammunition with remote detonation. Znachitstso ZRPK "Shell", marine "metal cutting" and conventional BMP they are not needed!? -)
    It reminds an old joke when at a rally dedicated to the struggle for sobriety, the next speaker pours himself a glass of water and drinks it in a characteristic way, after exhaling.
  9. Ros 56
    Ros 56 6 June 2018 19: 41
    +1
    I wonder what is used there as a watch at such and such speeds? request
    1. Yura Yakovlev
      Yura Yakovlev 7 June 2018 14: 07
      0
      This is not a clockwork or tube. The principle of operation is based on the Doppler effect. We need a generator and a receiver that work at certain frequencies depending on the speed of the projectile. The receiver makes remote detonation upon receipt of a certain frequency of the reflected wave (1/3 or 1/2 of the transmitter frequency). The meaning of the whole event, as I understand it, is not only to increase the effectiveness of weapons, but also to use low-quality microcircuits, the amount of which is 60 percent of the produced ones. We kill two birds with one stone - we increase the effectiveness of weapons and develop the production of domestic electronics.
  10. Zomanus
    Zomanus 7 June 2018 12: 59
    0
    Well, by then, the car will be brought to mind ...
  11. parkello
    parkello 7 June 2018 13: 05
    0
    as for me it would be better to put 1 barrel 57 mm and 1 six-barrel machine gun 12,7 next to the gun.