In the US, told about the "amazing" Russian machine

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The ballistic characteristics of the Kalashnikov assault rifle give surprising results in practice, making it weapon truly deadly, writes magazine The National Interest.

In the US, told about the "amazing" Russian machine




The author studied the data from the shooting tables and compared the AKM and Ak-74 indicators adopted in 1959 and 1974, respectively.

According to him, the ballistic characteristics of Russian automata are almost the same as those of modern rifles used in the US Army.

The author noted that the speed of rotation of the AK-74 bullet is significantly higher compared with AKM. This is reflected in the accuracy of shooting.

At a distance of 100 meters, the average accuracy of the first shot from the AK-74 "had a vertical and horizontal dispersion in 4 cm." When fired from AKM, this indicator increased to 6 cm.

As the newspaper notes, the dispersion rates are reduced when using weapons more prepared arrows.

The author also analyzed the number of shots needed to hit a growth target from the 800 distance. It turned out that the shooters with AK-74 needed 11 shots (from the prone position - 20 shots, from the same position in an unequal position - 26).

For AKM, these figures increased to 18, 22 and 41 shots.

According to the journalist, AK-74 proved to be better and when firing in bursts.

As a result, he came to the conclusion that seemingly small improvements in small arms can give surprising results in practice for both middle-level military personnel and more professional fighters.
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  1. +44
    6 June 2018 11: 36
    "The National Interest" will soon overtake Armenian radio and British scientists according to expert opinions smile
    1. +16
      6 June 2018 11: 58
      All the same, according to the expertness of TOPWAR news, they can’t catch up laughing
    2. +5
      6 June 2018 12: 24
      "The National Interest" will soon overtake Armenian radio and British scientists according to expert opinions


      It’s for sure, I went to read it for fun, there’s a lot of nonsense, well, actually it’s designed for the American public with their level of education, otherwise who will read it.
      By the way, I looked at the advisory department includes Alexey Pushkov
      Biography
      Alexey Konstantinovich Pushkov, Director of the Institute of Actual International Problems (IAMP) of the Diplomatic Academy of the Russian Ministry of Foreign Affairs. He is also the author and presenter of the popular political television show Postscript. Previously, he was a speechwriter for Mikhail Gorbachev; he had a career in diplomacy and the media. He is also a professor of diplomacy and international relations at the Moscow Institute of International Relations. He is a member of the National Interest Advisory Board.
      1. +10
        6 June 2018 12: 31
        It’s for sure, I went to read it for fun, there’s a lot of nonsense, well, actually it’s designed for the American public with their level of education, otherwise who will read it.


        generations of the Unified State Examination will grow soon, the level of education in the Russian Federation will drop just to the level of "developed" capitalist countries
        1. +2
          6 June 2018 20: 57
          From the "Journalist" Konstantinov
          Andrei threw the transport board at the Benin airbase, and it turned out that instead of the four translators promised to Obnorsky, only three were actually present in the Air Force group - two graduates of MGIMO and one from Yerevan University. And if Ashot Karapetyan could at least somehow write and explain in Arabic, then there was simply trouble with the mimic-bellists. Two Alexandra - Bubentsov and Kolokolchikov - resembled each other not only by their first names and surnames, but also by some considerable impersonality acquired by them within the walls of their prestigious university. Both did not know Arabic - Kolokolchikov was generally an Indonesian and ended up in Libya as a translator of English, which, however, he also spoke very mediocre. But his dad held the post of deputy minister of some industry there, so he arranged his son in a bread place where he could fool around with a clear conscience - almost no one spoke English in Libya, the former Italian colony. As for Bubentsov, he taught Arabic at his institute, but, apparently, in the same way as Obnorsky in Hebrew faculty. (This was Andrei’s second eastern language, the whole group called it jokingly “native speech” and was extremely frivolous. Israel was then a country completely closed to Soviet non-Jews, so Hebrew could only arouse very narrow interest as the language of a potential adversary. Further memorization by heart of several key phrases such as “Do not beat me - I am a translator” Obnorsky’s knowledge in Hebrew practically did not advance.)
          Assessing the situation, Andrei realized that he was in, and at the end of the first meeting with his new subordinates sullenly asked both of the pressroom workers:
          “Brothers, tell me a terrible secret ... If you don’t know a damn thing, then what were you taught in your om MGIMO?”
          “The way of life, commander!” - Bubentsov and Kolokolchikov reported in chorus, faithfully looking at their boss with bespectacled eyes.
          Yes
      2. +1
        26 June 2018 13: 58
        Citizens of the United States understand better than our small arms, there you read in every seven barrel, in each village a shooting club. We know more, but only those who want to know and are interested. Bring Kalash to 11th graders, they’re not just taking it apart, probably not everyone will be able to take it off, some in general are shocked that the shutter is on the right, they say how? in the counter-strike on the left .......
    3. +9
      6 June 2018 12: 35
      Quote: Thrall
      "The National Interest" will soon overtake Armenian radio and British scientists according to expert opinions

      Yeah ... it's already ma'am. Less than half a century, as they noticed something ....
      The author noted that the speed of rotation of the AK-74 bullet is significantly higher compared with AKM. This is reflected in the accuracy of shooting.
      I’m wondering how much time will pass before they notice that the flight speed of the AK-74 bullet is significantly higher than the AKM bullet
      1. +16
        6 June 2018 13: 32
        Quote: svp67
        I’m wondering how much time will pass before they notice that the flight speed of the AK-74 bullet is significantly higher than the AKM bullet

        laughing I’m afraid that they haven’t even noticed that their caliber is different.
        1. +5
          6 June 2018 13: 38
          Quote: Hire
          I’m afraid that they haven’t even noticed that their caliber is different.

          And it will be the NEXT OPENING, so in five years
          1. +10
            6 June 2018 14: 07
            Sergei hi
            Quote: svp67
            And it will be the NEXT OPENING

            I recalled a joke:
            At the time of the extermination of the Indians in North America, they somehow caught an arrogant Saxon tribe and put them in a barn. After a couple of days they come to check, and the barn is empty. Arrange a second round-up and ask the leader:
            - How did you run away ???
            - We sat a day, sat two ... And on the third day, the Vigilant Eye noticed that the shed does not have a fourth wall.
            1. +6
              6 June 2018 14: 10
              hi Paul.
              Quote: bouncyhunter
              I recalled a joke:

              Sometimes it already seems that this is not a joke, but a historical description ...
              1. +5
                6 June 2018 14: 17
                Quote: svp67
                Sometimes it already seems that this is not a joke, but a historical description ...

                I see no reason to dispute your words. I will give only a quote (I don’t recall the author):
                Sometimes, looking at some, you begin to doubt what the Creator’s intentions really were
                1. +3
                  6 June 2018 22: 53
                  The author of an article in NI merely retold "TABLE OF SHOOTING FOR TERRESTRIAL TARGETS FROM THE RUNNING WEAPONS OF CALIBERS 5,45 AND 7,62 mm", TS / GRAU No. 61.
                  By the way, author Charlie Gao himself studied (you will laugh) political and computer sciences at Grinnell College.
                  1. +1
                    6 June 2018 23: 00
                    I won’t laugh. I just shake my head in dismay, with a sad grin ...
                    1. +3
                      6 June 2018 23: 03
                      Quote: bouncyhunter
                      I won’t laugh. I just shake my head in dismay, with a sad grin ...

                      Why do we feel sad? We must be glad that they have such experts. smile
                      1. +1
                        6 June 2018 23: 09
                        I have said more than once (yesterday, for sure) that NI is equal in color to urine ... wink What to take from these paper and table experts? request
                      2. +2
                        6 June 2018 23: 13
                        It is strange that in VO, with tenacity worthy of a better application, they retell materials from NI.
                  2. +1
                    6 June 2018 23: 17
                    Quote: Old anecdote
                    It is strange that in VO, with tenacity worthy of a better application, they retell materials from NI.

                    Maybe in order to dilute the lapsus from the 404th and have fun with us? wink
                    1. +2
                      6 June 2018 23: 32
                      Quote: bouncyhunter
                      Maybe in order to dilute the lapsus from the 404th and have fun with us?

                      Hmm ... I'd rather see the KVN. smile
      2. 0
        7 June 2018 00: 19
        there, as if immediately indicated and the speed of the bullet))
        5.45 significantly higher wassat laughing
        written cleverly. a lot - but a little bit wrong))
        it was necessary to shoot in the machine for objectivity -that would be surprised.
  2. +11
    6 June 2018 11: 37
    You read the article and catch yourself thinking, well, when will they begin to compare with M4 and M16. But no, they managed with one sentence. Why then do modern US rifles have been dragged in? The "depth" of the comparative analysis is also striking lol
    1. 0
      6 June 2018 12: 01
      It's time for them to switch to Russian weapons
      1. +2
        6 June 2018 12: 34
        all the gangs in the usa have long been in Kalash, and the number of their fighters is three times higher than the National Guard and the army, and the level of training of some groups reaches the army ...
        1. 0
          6 June 2018 20: 26
          There, with the number of groups, there is complete order.
          Some gangs may well be compared with many armies in Europe.
          1. 0
            22 July 2018 17: 13
            The funny thing is that in Russia there are 2 times more murders per year per 100 population than in the USA.
            1. +1
              22 July 2018 17: 24
              Quote: cast iron
              Russia has 2 times more murders per year per 100 population than the United States

              Source?
              1. 0
                22 July 2018 19: 32
                Interesting? Type in google. Learn a lot.
  3. +8
    6 June 2018 11: 38
    can give amazing results in practice

    lol You haven’t shot with the CPV yet, that’s where the amazing results are !!!!
  4. +5
    6 June 2018 11: 39
    we have it every student knows that better than a Kalashnikov assault rifle no weapons
  5. +13
    6 June 2018 11: 46
    And if we add unpretentiousness, vitality, and simplicity to training in using weapons to ballistic characteristics, then American assault rifles are not suitable for soles.
    1. 0
      7 June 2018 00: 21
      Skars of their survivability. Unpretentiousness, unfortunately, is not worse, but modularity increases their combat capabilities by an order of magnitude.
      the Belgians in the arms make excellent cars for MTR amers.
      1. 0
        22 July 2018 17: 15
        Have you personally checked these SCARs? Or do you believe only the tales of journalists and advertisers? I remember there was such a super rifle G-36, about which they also shouted foolish that it was no worse than AK. It turned out that Germany seemed to be intensely seeking a replacement for the wunderwafer with plastic.
  6. +2
    6 June 2018 11: 46
    This is what the legalization of narcotic drugs leads to ... recourse
    1. +4
      6 June 2018 11: 49
      Quote: Tank Hard
      This is what the legalization of narcotic drugs leads to ...

      it’s legalized the lungs. and what will happen if heavy? request
      then it’s sure that the tank will be compared with the cruiser laughing
      1. +2
        6 June 2018 11: 51
        It’s watered with mud, then it’s praised ... The psyche is not stable ... wassat
  7. LMN
    +5
    6 June 2018 11: 52
    Or maybe this is our resource? winked
  8. +3
    6 June 2018 11: 59
    Looks like this time the article was paid by the producers of local Kalash replicas ... Advertising is the engine of trade. And then my forehead was wrinkled in pseudo-analytical attempts ...
  9. +1
    6 June 2018 11: 59
    In the United States, one of the richest countries, 40 million people live below the poverty line, and 5 million live in the same conditions as third-world citizens, according to a UN report.
    1. +1
      6 June 2018 12: 36
      there are more than 5 million homeless people
    2. 0
      6 June 2018 12: 48
      In fact of the matter. That even among the poor they have few who live as citizens of third world countries (which in most cases are considered not poor there)
    3. +2
      6 June 2018 13: 30
      You still tell us about the US government debt .And you can see the report? Because I did not see a link to the report itself in the sources.
      And yes, not the UN, but the UN INDEPENDENT UN expert Philip Alston. By the way, I’ll help you with the report December of 2017, why the Russian media remembered now.
      And here is the report itself http://ohchr.org/EN/NewsEvents/Pages/DisplayNews.
      aspx? NewsID = 22533 & LangID = E
    4. +1
      6 June 2018 13: 38
      Quote: Heterocapsa
      In the United States, one of the richest countries, 40 million people live below the poverty line, and 5 million live in the same conditions as third-world citizens, according to a UN report.

      Now read the entire report and find out the poverty threshold in the United States. Although do not bother. In the United States, a family of four with a combined income of $ 24 per year should be classified as poor.

      $ 19.105 - for a family of three.

      $ 15.569 - for a family of two.

      $ 12.228 - for a person who does not live in the family, i.e. for a single person.
      Compare with Russia 10 000 rubles? The poor USA is a Russian who earns 62 rubles. Of course, the cost of living is expensive, but God, poor Americans get 000% of the population $ 12 a month, let's throw off for them)))
  10. +1
    6 June 2018 12: 02
    Give a link to the article.
  11. +2
    6 June 2018 12: 08
    When will the articles finally come out entitled "The influence of electromagnetic and gravitational fields when firing from a Kalashnikov assault rifle", "The use of the Kalashnikov assault rifle against aliens in zero gravity", "The influence of the space-time continuum when using the Kalashnikov assault rifle in parallel worlds"? laughing laughing
    1. +2
      6 June 2018 12: 37
      at they still didn’t put artifacts from the stalker on the trunk
  12. +2
    6 June 2018 12: 11
    Quote: Heterocapsa
    In the United States, one of the richest countries, 40 million people live below the poverty line, and 5 million live in the same conditions as third-world citizens, according to a UN report.

    ---------------------------
    The report has apparently been edited. 40% of the US population have difficulty paying for housing. One woman wrote in the comments, I don’t remember what a video or article that drove the United States from north to south, sleeps half a country on mattresses on the street, there is no money to pay for the house.
    1. 0
      6 June 2018 12: 50
      This is what North Korean television constantly confirms.
  13. +1
    6 June 2018 12: 22
    Lada 1959 and 1974 - that's cool too!
  14. +1
    6 June 2018 12: 51
    "National Interes" profane with might and main ?! I’m even lazy to look at the source from the link, if not Kyle Mizokami, so what kind of “specialist” is engaged in a “deep” ANALYSIS ?!
    But I’m not worried about the “analytics” from “NI”, but the “variance” in the text request Is this the Day of the Russian Language ?!
    1. +2
      6 June 2018 14: 01
      Dispersion is a statistical term that cannot be translated. It is expressed in square units. In this case, a value that is understandable to us is denoted by the standard deviation of the sigma equal to the square root of the variance
      1. +1
        6 June 2018 14: 45
        hi Thank you for your clarification, Comrade Vladimirovich_4! good
  15. +3
    6 June 2018 12: 53
    Quote: Dmitry V.
    Lada 1959

    ------------------------------
    ????? This is where you saw these? This year, there was also no Fiat 124, a prototype Lada.
  16. +2
    6 June 2018 13: 27
    AK-47 in their films is always a formidable weapon ... Even Germans are at 45 (Germans used our PPSh)
    But the German Pulimet MG, how many of ours just stupidly soaked ..! Oh commanders ... soldier
  17. 0
    6 June 2018 13: 44
    Damn, secret developments have been poured into the press ... Snowden egozit on a stool from fierce envy!
  18. 0
    6 June 2018 14: 52
    Quote: Saling
    All the same, according to the expertness of TOPWAR news, they can’t catch up laughing

    Do not touch the holy
  19. +3
    6 June 2018 16: 16
    "The author also analyzed how many shots would be needed to hit a growth target from a distance of 800 m."
    In my opinion, at 800 m the target is not visible through the front sight, or have I already forgotten everything? laughing
    1. +1
      6 June 2018 18: 55
      no you're right !!!! I shot at 500 .. or I burdock or the Americans pinned but I wouldn’t even try to shoot at such a distance
  20. 0
    6 June 2018 19: 58
    The AK-74 bullet speed should be less.
  21. 0
    13 July 2018 15: 35
    Quote: Old anecdote
    By the way, author Charlie Gao himself studied (you will laugh) political and computer sciences at Grinnell College.

    -------------------------
    In colleges, they teach them well, and if at home there is a collection of weapons of trunks of 50 at least, then you can quite become an expert. I had a late acquaintance from Georgia, died at 33, graduated from the political science department of the college, had an arsenal of weapons at home, was a fan of Russian and Soviet weapons. His girlfriend seems to be walking with Saiga, at least he posted the photo.
  22. 0
    13 July 2018 23: 57
    The 5.45 bullet has a better ballistic coefficient than 5.56, because of which, at distances further than 300 meters, it carries as much energy as 5.56 or even more.

    Above distances closer than 300 meters, 5.56 has more energy due to the initially larger muzzle energy of 5.56 cartridge.

    As a result, at distances over 300 meters, 5.45 works better on the target with a lower recoil momentum.

    hi

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