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Putin spoke about the reverse impact of anti-Russian sanctions

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Those countries that, under pressure from Washington voted for anti-Russian sanctions, can now fully feel their harmful effects on themselves, leading China's media corporation words of the president of the Russian Federation Vladimir Putin.




To the question of how relations between Russia and the West could develop in the future, Putin replied that the existence of sanctions and other various restrictions does not frighten or surprise the Russians. No sanctions will never “force us to abandon the independent, sovereign path of development,” he added.

At the same time, the president noted that he nevertheless proceeds from the fact that common sense will triumph and the illegal restrictions harmful to the entire world economy will gradually be removed. And Russia is normalizing its relations with all partners, including the United States and its allies, who have been led by Washington and are applying these sanctions.

According to Putin, those who supported the United States are now themselves suffering from their own actions. Moreover, the United States is now beginning to impose restrictions on these countries.

All this suggests that sanctions cannot be a universal remedy, they harm everyone, including the initiators of such steps. Ultimately, in the opinion of the president, relations between Moscow and the West are normalizing.

Recall that in March Washington introduced import duties on steel (25%) and aluminum (10%), justifying this with considerations on national security. Some countries first received a reprieve. But at the end of May, after unsuccessful negotiations with partners, the USA imposed these duties on all countries, including Canada and the EU. For Russian manufacturers, new duties have been in effect since March.
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  1. STARKOV
    STARKOV 6 June 2018 08: 40
    +10
    God forbid the sanction otment ...)))
    1. LSA57
      LSA57 6 June 2018 08: 41
      +5
      Quote: STARKOV
      God forbid sanction otment ...

      we can only hope laughing
      1. cniza
        cniza 6 June 2018 08: 44
        +10
        We know for sure that this will not happen, and if it suddenly happens, then trouble has come. lol
        1. bouncyhunter
          bouncyhunter 6 June 2018 08: 48
          +3
          Victor, hi! hi Actually, Vladimir Vladimirovich did not say anything new, but simply recalled the flip side of the coin. Yes
          1. cniza
            cniza 6 June 2018 08: 50
            +3
            Greetings Pasha! hi , no matter what he says, they do everything differently, an interesting "dynamics" is obtained. lol
            1. bouncyhunter
              bouncyhunter 6 June 2018 08: 55
              +3
              Quote: cniza
              interesting is the "dynamics"

              While the mattresses are being licked, the dynamics have a minus sign, not only for those who supported the sanctions, but also for Russia ...
              1. cniza
                cniza 6 June 2018 09: 02
                +3
                They dived in there and now ask us to get them out of there, but we don’t want to get dirty ... ourselves, only ourselves, then we will see.
                1. bouncyhunter
                  bouncyhunter 6 June 2018 09: 06
                  +2
                  It is foolish to hope for Russian kindness every day recalling Russian aggression.
                  1. cniza
                    cniza 6 June 2018 09: 08
                    +2
                    And this is generally a "masterpiece" of their actions.
          2. Leeds
            Leeds 6 June 2018 08: 52
            +33
            All the same do not care that benz under 50 and a euro with a dirty green piece of paper doubled in price, far outstripping the increase in salaries. No need to fool around and pretend that we all do not how much.
            1. Muvka
              Muvka 6 June 2018 08: 56
              +11
              Papers have risen in price by 2 times, and food by 10%. So yes, nobody cares. And some products are now cheaper than 14.
              1. Leeds
                Leeds 6 June 2018 09: 14
                +9
                Quote: Muvka
                Papers have risen in price by 2 times, and food by 10%. So yes, nobody cares. And some products are now cheaper than 14.

                Is it a delay or something? I do not buy in such places. Therefore, I can not appreciate such a slight increase in prices. I do not own knowledge of the dynamics of prices for vodka (an important food product), because I do not use it.
                1. Muvka
                  Muvka 6 June 2018 09: 19
                  +3
                  No, not a delay. I generally do not see any delays in normal, not small stores since the late 90s - early 2000s.
                  1. Mordvin 3
                    Mordvin 3 6 June 2018 10: 36
                    +5
                    Quote: Muvka
                    No, not a delay. I generally do not see any delays in normal, not small stores since the late 90s - early 2000s.

                    Ekitetki learned to glue. wassat
                  2. Mordvin 3
                    Mordvin 3 6 June 2018 11: 02
                    +1
                    But seriously, a girlfriend works in Magnet. What are they doing there, I stopped buying from them. Only canned food, and even that is not a fact that they will not be hired. I bought Klinskoe by stock, slipped one good, the other last year. But how to prove that I am not a camel, but I was bred? Check one. request
              2. tchoni
                tchoni 6 June 2018 12: 05
                +4
                Quote: Muvka
                And some products are now cheaper than 14.

                Especially gasoline and a salary))) If to measure in dollars - obviously became cheaper feel
            2. bouncyhunter
              bouncyhunter 6 June 2018 08: 57
              +4
              And no one says that sanctions alone impose losses.
              All this suggests that sanctions cannot be a universal remedy, they harm everyone, including the initiators of such steps.
            3. LSA57
              LSA57 6 June 2018 09: 20
              +2
              Quote: Leeds
              All the same do not care that benz under 50 and the euro with a dirty green piece of paper doubled in price

              and what do you mean sanctions? Is it they who set the price of gasoline for us?
              1. aleks_29296
                aleks_29296 6 June 2018 09: 30
                +2

                and what do you mean sanctions? Is it they who set the price of gasoline for us?


                Hardly. Rather, our nouveau riche will not get drunk in any way.
                1. LSA57
                  LSA57 6 June 2018 09: 48
                  0
                  Quote: aleks_29296
                  Hardly. Rather, our nouveau riche will not get drunk in any way.

                  here I am about it. about three days ago, it seemed like they agreed to freeze prices. shit, side treaties
              2. raw174
                raw174 6 June 2018 10: 06
                +3
                Quote: LSA57
                and what do you mean sanctions? Is it they who set the price of gasoline for us?

                Yes, because of the sanctions (or rather, the chain of events that began with the sanctions).
                At the behest of the West, the oil price slipped and the ruble collapsed - this is the purpose and essence of the sanctions. Ours has become more profitable to sell oil over a hill for $, because $ has risen in price, so you need to raise prices inside, plus the production is tied to $ starting from exploration, dollar equipment, contracts too ...
                1. LSA57
                  LSA57 6 June 2018 10: 27
                  +3
                  Quote: raw174
                  At the behest of the West, the oil price dipped and the ruble collapsed

                  you know, the price of oil is rising, the price of gasoline too. the price of oil is falling, the price of gas is rising. so what is the difference to us from the price of oil?
                  1. raw174
                    raw174 6 June 2018 10: 34
                    +1
                    Quote: LSA57
                    you know, the price of oil is rising, the price of gasoline too. the price of oil is falling, the price of gas is rising. so what is the difference to us from the price of oil?

                    I’m talking about the price of $, as the reason for the increase in gas prices. The price of oil has fallen, the ruble is behind it, the price has risen, but the ruble is not, hence the price of gasoline.
                    1. LSA57
                      LSA57 6 June 2018 10: 37
                      +1
                      Quote: raw174
                      The price of oil has fallen, the ruble is behind it,

                      The price of oil has risen, but the price of gas too !!!! so what does the ruble ??????
                      1. raw174
                        raw174 6 June 2018 10: 42
                        +2
                        Quote: LSA57
                        so what does the ruble ??????

                        Despite the fact that he (the ruble) did not rise for oil, it is more profitable for oil industry workers to sell products for expensive dollars to them than for cheap rubles for us, hence the increase in prices. But the ruble did not rise, because the government is more advantageous in such a situation, it allows to increase rubles in the budget, due to exports, it is in rubles (budget).
                        Calculate the price for gasoline in $, in which oil is traded, nothing has risen in price!
            4. AUL
              AUL 6 June 2018 09: 56
              +2
              Folds ringing ... (s)
            5. raw174
              raw174 6 June 2018 10: 00
              +2
              Quote: Leeds
              All the same do not care that benz is under 50

              Yes, it really doesn’t work out well with gasoline, yesterday I refueled at 40,7 (AI_92) ...
              Quote: Leeds
              euro with a dirty green piece of paper doubled in price

              I don’t care ... It’s even more profitable for me, as the owner of a ruble mortgage, that the ruble is getting cheaper, since s / n is still growing, although not quickly (due to inflation), but there is no payment ...
              Quote: Leeds
              No need to fool around and pretend that we all do not how much.

              There are difficulties, but bearable. Track the consequences of economic crises in our country since the USSR, they all come with falling oil prices and pressure from the West, the consequences are less and less each time!
            6. Siberian
              Siberian 6 June 2018 10: 17
              +6
              Here is the appreciation of the euro - just the same. I don’t depend on him. I live in Siberia: vegetables, fruits - all year round and very affordable. There was just a lot of different meat, fish, cereals, pasta, milk - bust, chicken too. This has never happened before. I remember the times when there was nothing, then - there was everything, there was no money. And now there’s just nothing to complain about, if only out of habit.
              1. Vladivostok1969
                Vladivostok1969 6 June 2018 10: 27
                +2
                Is it not in the Irkutsk region by chance? Not at the expense of your communal apartment will they help Deripaska?
                1. Siberian
                  Siberian 6 June 2018 10: 36
                  +1
                  Naturally not in Irkutsk. Not at the expense of my communal apartment. Everything is fine with the communal apartment: as was decided in the 90s, every year the increase is by a certain percentage, it certainly exists, but not by 2 times, of course. Create a partnership of homeowners and solve monetary issues yourself and most of them (questions) will disappear. Where is Deripaska and where is the communal apartment - intersect at infinity?
                  1. Serg65
                    Serg65 6 June 2018 10: 44
                    0
                    Quote: Siberian
                    intersect at infinity?

                    laughing in dreams!
                2. Nitochkin
                  Nitochkin 6 June 2018 11: 43
                  +4
                  Quote: Vladivostok1969
                  Is it not in the Irkutsk region by chance? Not at the expense of your communal apartment will they help Deripaska?


                  Irkutsk citizens want to raise tariffs for electric energy every 3 times a minimum. Deripas believes that they live too fat for 1 rub / kWh. Although Deripas himself did not invest a dime in the construction of their cascade. I bought, bastard, on the cheap, first their factories for the production of aluminum, and then the hydroelectric power station.
              2. Leeds
                Leeds 6 June 2018 11: 08
                +4
                Quote: Siberian
                Here is the appreciation of the euro - just the same. I don’t depend on him. I live in Siberia: vegetables, fruits - all year round and very affordable. There was just a lot of different meat, fish, cereals, pasta, milk - bust, chicken too. This has never happened before. I remember the times when there was nothing, then - there was everything, there was no money. And now there’s just nothing to complain about, if only out of habit.

                Not everything is measured by what can be shoved into the mouth, unfortunately.
                It’s good for the person at the top that the ruble is collapsing, they say the mortgage is in rubles, and those fools who took the currency, and put it on them, because the main thing that I feel good is the defective feature of our average person, his selfishness.
                1. Siberian
                  Siberian 6 June 2018 11: 32
                  0
                  Of course. Not all. And, in general, this did not measure. But yours was myril - gasoline with its price and euros. What hole should it fit in and for what purpose? I look, the children in the yard are driving scooters (Alex-Will arranged a sale), they also do not care about gasoline, isn’t this your possible happiness?
                  1. Leeds
                    Leeds 6 June 2018 14: 11
                    +4
                    I went to see prices in Italian supermarkets and was surprised that they are not much different from prices at the Crossroads. But here is only 2700 euros for Italians on hand - a salary lower than average is considered. And this .............. almost 200 of our rubles. So think, if you please. And gasoline, yes, they have an expensive one.
                    And as for happiness, then you are right, it is in children and the family, not otherwise))
                    Don’t think that I’m complaining, but the apathy at the beginning of the “Oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo,, and monkeys at the beginning of the“ Oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo ", and I’m sorry for the monkey at the beginning of the“ Oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo, ” Of course, sanctions also hit the west, but I am more interested in MY country.
              3. Vladimirovich_4
                Vladimirovich_4 7 June 2018 12: 58
                +1
                Fruits in Siberia year-round cannot depend on the euro and the dollar. In Siberia, their fruits and vegetables grow year-round; you do not need to buy them for currency. Themselves have already been tortured to sell them in all sorts of Turkey and Israel
            7. Captain45
              Captain45 6 June 2018 11: 25
              0
              Quote: Leeds
              All the same do not care that benz under 50 and the euro with a dirty green piece of paper doubled in price, far ahead of the growth in salaries.

              Sympathize with you. You obviously have not adjusted the fuel system on the SUV, so there is a large overspending of fuel and, accordingly, expenses. Regarding the rise in price of the euro and the dirty green piece of paper - if you have them, it means that as a result of their rise in price you have more rubles, then, accordingly, you can purchase more fuel for your car. Then what are the reasons for the outrage? Or so, just grumbling like an old man?
            8. Svetlana
              Svetlana 6 June 2018 12: 31
              +5
              Quote: Leeds
              No need to fool around and pretend that we all do not how much.

              Yes, it’s not people fooling around, but one very clever gentleman, who is pictured here. He will help Gazprom now, the most unprotected representative of our society. Here on expensive gasoline they will cut money and help the people who have become more attentive at construction sites of the century and on all kinds of ships.
              1. Leeds
                Leeds 6 June 2018 14: 16
                +4
                Quote: Svetlana
                Quote: Leeds
                No need to fool around and pretend that we all do not how much.

                Yes, it’s not people fooling around, but one very clever gentleman, who is pictured here. He will help Gazprom now, the most unprotected representative of our society. Here on expensive gasoline they will cut money and help the people who have become more attentive at construction sites of the century and on all kinds of ships.


                To be precise, this local audience perverted his words, turning everything into the mainstream: “We have one benefit from sanctions, and the other side only torment and loss.” The first did not sound, and the torment and costs of the West are a little exaggerated.
                1. Svetlana
                  Svetlana 6 June 2018 14: 53
                  +2
                  Quote: Leeds
                  To be precise, this local audience perverted his words, turning everything into the mainstream: “We have one benefit from sanctions, and the other side only torment and loss.” The first did not sound, and the torment and costs of the West are a little exaggerated.

                  No, I didn’t pervert, but I understood just right. He says this. And the gullible endless promises endlessly promise a better life are repeated and rejoiced like children.
        2. Chertt
          Chertt 6 June 2018 08: 50
          +3
          Quote: STARKOV
          God forbid the sanction otment ...)))

          Quote: cniza
          and if something happens, then trouble comes.

          Do not be scared. West will help us wink There are enough fools and provocateurs in politics, someone else will be hounded (I predict. The next "weapon" will be Anthrax
          1. cniza
            cniza 6 June 2018 08: 52
            +3
            We hope for their misunderstanding. Yes
            1. Vladivostok1969
              Vladivostok1969 6 June 2018 08: 58
              +5
              Yes ... The trouble is if the sanctions are lifted. How then will we help Deripaska?
              1. cniza
                cniza 6 June 2018 09: 04
                +1
                We will always pay for everything, unfortunately, since objectivity works this way.
              2. rocket757
                rocket757 6 June 2018 09: 11
                +1
                C'mon, what’s there in those sanctions of a fundamentally new and terrible ???
                The country, people were going through the worst of trouble! The only question is the quality management of such a huge economy as Russia.
                Management is not high-quality, at our pockets \ fridges we feel .... I do not want to "smear" the topic, I just think that it could / should have been much better ... although again, with due diligence / skill it could have been worse arrange everything, for examples of how to bask, you won’t have to go far!
                We tolerate and will see.
                1. Vladivostok1969
                  Vladivostok1969 6 June 2018 10: 09
                  +5
                  "The Lord endured and commanded us." So what? Not tired?
                  1. Rubber
                    Rubber 6 June 2018 10: 11
                    +1
                    Call to the barricades, sir? Little spilled blood?
                    1. Vladivostok1969
                      Vladivostok1969 6 June 2018 10: 17
                      +2
                      Call to the barricades, sir? Little spilled blood?

                      No one spoke about the barricades. And it is high time to hold a referendum and amend the constitution.
                      1. 79807420129
                        79807420129 6 June 2018 11: 02
                        +1
                        Quote: Vladivostok1969
                        Where are you now? Probably in the trench?

                        And I work and do not yell in the internet
                        Quote: Vladivostok1969
                        "The Lord endured and commanded us." So what? Not tired?

                        Neither Putin, nor Grudinin, nor Trump and Zyuganov will feed my family and the family will not be full of slogans, Thank God that
                        Quote: Vladivostok1969
                        No one spoke about the barricades.

                        You understand that after the barricades it will only get worse.
                    2. 79807420129
                      79807420129 6 June 2018 10: 23
                      +2
                      Quote: Gumma
                      Call to the barricades, sir? Little spilled blood?

                      And they don’t care, they hope they will sit on the sofas, they hope that the Ukrainians will hide my hut, well, they hoped, now they kill each other in the Donbass and these screamers will jump into the bushes right away, only they’ll shout bold, ambitious pancakes. negative
                      1. Vladivostok1969
                        Vladivostok1969 6 June 2018 10: 42
                        +5
                        Where are you now? Probably in the trench?
                      2. rocket757
                        rocket757 6 June 2018 10: 50
                        +4
                        Not everyone cares and not everyone is ready to sit out on sofas!
                        Capitalism, capitalism, but neglecting the interests of the worker, this is not an act of great mind on the part of the authorities and the people elected!
                        People didn’t want to "rock the boat", they believed once again! But this is not forever, it may also be a bad thing. There are enough examples around and the patience of any society is not endless!
                    3. Leshy1975
                      Leshy1975 6 June 2018 12: 49
                      +3
                      And now it’s not pouring? Or not your personal, is it not a pity?
                  2. Serg65
                    Serg65 6 June 2018 10: 35
                    0
                    Quote: Vladivostok1969
                    So what?

                    recourse And about Derepaska ?????
                  3. rocket757
                    rocket757 6 June 2018 10: 54
                    0
                    Vladivostok1969 (Sergey) Today, 10: 09 ↑
                    "The Lord endured and commanded us." So what? Not tired?

                    Someone is already tired, someone has more patience, someone just wants peace .....
                    what are the options?
                    We have an almost destructive force forming ... small fines for now, but everything tends to change.
                    And what is our creative power and where is it ???
                2. Opera
                  Opera 6 June 2018 10: 20
                  +3
                  [quote = rocket757] Management is not high-quality, we feel in our pockets / refrigerators ....
                  And when and under what control in your pockets and the refrigerator was all the quality completely full ?! Probably, when did you think about the problems of acquiring the refrigerator itself? Then of course the question of what to put there was already secondary!)))))
                  [quote = rocket757] I do not want to "smear" the topic, I just think that it could / should have been much better [/ quote]
                  That’s for sure - if a certain group of comrades didn’t ruin the USSR, and their predecessors the Russian Empire!))) I’m not at all smearing the topic, I’ll tell you - it would certainly be much better! It’s just that the history of the subjunctive mood does not have ... [quote = rocket757] We tolerate and will see. [/ Quote]
                  Is everything so gloomy ?! I now agree with the president - they are not at all frightened and certainly they are not surprised by their limitations! They always tried to limit Russia! One way or another, but always! And certainly tolerate the Russian leadership that you do not like this way is a dead end! How to endure sanctions! You probably need to find a different leadership for yourself, and everyone else should deal with the Russian economy in their own place. After all, each of us somehow contributes to the general welfare! And "endure and see" is not our method! What are we suffering, or what ?!
                  1. rocket757
                    rocket757 6 June 2018 10: 45
                    +1
                    We may not have the same management, the most, but if we overcome the misfortune of everyone together, then there would be less talk for that ... in fact, we have a very lousy division, a small part is profitable at the expense of others, all costs, losses compensated by most people who are not elected! This is capitalism, however, but such a clear neglect of the country's authorities by the needs and aspirations of the people will not bring to good!
                    This way, without smearing in fact .... obvious and very undesirable!
                    1. Opera
                      Opera 6 June 2018 13: 25
                      +3
                      Without completely blurring the essence of the leadership of the USSR, you can make a fiend of hell and did! One could imagine the same leadership of angels and advocates of justice all over the world, and they did! In fact, both statements were not true. So it is now. You can talk about 20 million Russian citizens below the poverty line and not mention that most of this figure does not want to work officially and, accordingly, pay taxes on which the state builds roads, bridges, reforming the army ... and don’t mention what this figure was recently and with the same power! One can talk about oligarchic Russia without even imagining what an oligarch is and about “rich bloodsuckers” without mentioning that many of them have created and are creating thousands and thousands of jobs, new ones are being built and old enterprises are being modernized! You can compare the salaries of Western countries and Russia and the result will not be in our favor! And you can compare taxes and other deductions from official wages and the picture will look completely different! And you can suddenly take it and find out that Russia occupies the absolute first place in the world in the number of homeowners and the total amount of this property in the hands of our destitute citizens will seem to be the ultimate dream to Westerners! All this is a matter of subjectivity of views and goals! After all, it’s possible to be upset with the built Crimean bridge - some bucks that swell !!!! That would be divided ... Your glass is almost empty! I'm almost full! And the truth will be, just in the middle of the glass! I don’t see tragedy!
                      1. rocket757
                        rocket757 6 June 2018 14: 08
                        +1
                        It is advisable to fill the glass, rather than adjust it to fill statistics…. What is our average salary in Russia? Where are these statistics issued figures really so confirmed? Where do we get better health care? And there are a lot of similar questions ... again, if there was a tendency for improvement, I would say that the glass is filling. Not yet.
                        By the way, the availability of own housing, more than in any other country, is still not the merit of the current authorities!
                        We have capitalism. First of all, a person should take care of himself, himself, but the state should not shirk his obligations!
                        About the capitalists, "guardians" of fat bats, I recommend putting this topic wherever you go .... lies that are not obvious only to those who are especially spiritualized, not like that!
                      2. Captain45
                        Captain45 6 June 2018 19: 12
                        0
                        Quote: Oper
                        Without completely blurring the essence of the leadership of the USSR, you can make a fiend of hell and did! One could imagine the same leadership of angels and advocates of justice all over the world, and they did! In fact, both statements were not true.

                        Ay, well said, colleague good hi
                  2. Leshy1975
                    Leshy1975 6 June 2018 13: 12
                    +3
                    Of course, thanks to the leadership, the most genuine terpils are there. (flag at the Olympics, diplomatic property in the USA and Ukraine along with flags, sailors from the North, fines to Gazprom, statements about the downing of carriers in Syria, PMCs near Hisham (without even discussing how many people), gas transit through Ukraine (first threateningly declare termination, then renewal.) I think that many of the list will be supplemented. And about engaging in economics, quote Strelkov I.V. (if you don’t like Strelkov, please tell me from other sources):
                    Igor Gunmen
                    Today in 8: 15
                    Schizophrenia.
                    Mr. Novak - the Minister of Energy of the Russian Federation - gently hints that the Russian Federation is obliged (and ready) to support the "national heritage", which came under the blow of "our dear Western partners" (quote from Nanogeny):
                    https://russian.rt.com/business/news/520141-novak
                    -pom ..
                    Meanwhile, according to previous statements by Gazprom’s leaders themselves, one gets the impression that the company's top management is loyal to the decisions and actions of “dear partners”, recognizes their legitimacy and is only slightly offended that it was not officially warned:
                    https://iz.ru/752146/2018-06-05/gazprom-priznal-p
                    robl ..
                    At the same time, the Ekho Moskvy radio station, the most popular among officials and all kinds of "managers" (as well as our "creative intelligentsia"), has long, loudly and openly rejoiced at all kinds of sanctions and other humiliations inflicted by Russia on the part of "dear partners "(American and European). Echo, as has long been known, is owned by Gazprom Media, a structural unit of the national treasure. Therefore, in fact, it is the “mouthpiece” of Gazprom’s top management - the spokesman and closer of his “political” moods to power through the “laying” that befits the situation.
                    Based on the available information, it turns out that Gazprom, in general, supports sanctions and other pressure, is pleased with them.
                    And he perceives the multibillion-dollar (and constantly growing) losses as a slight nuisance, which the state willingly compensates for him (according to the Echo version - the one guilty of all this turmoil with Ukraine, Crimea, gas, etc.). It seems to be schizophrenia in the face - they are robbed, and they are happy ..

                    Raise wealth with such guys and for their interest? Well done, licked so licked.
                    So we are in our place, but is GDP in our place?
              3. Serg65
                Serg65 6 June 2018 10: 34
                0
                Quote: Vladivostok1969
                How then will we help Deripaska?

                laughing Serezha, the campaign you have all dreams about Deripaska ???
                1. Vladivostok1969
                  Vladivostok1969 6 June 2018 10: 40
                  +2
                  About him. How he sits on a Coke. hi
                  1. Serg65
                    Serg65 6 June 2018 10: 43
                    0
                    This is a dangerous relapse, are you more careful or something!
                    hi
                    1. Vladivostok1969
                      Vladivostok1969 6 June 2018 10: 47
                      +1
                      Are you a doctor or from the penitentiary system?
                      1. Serg65
                        Serg65 6 June 2018 10: 49
                        0
                        recourse This is ... well ... feel I'm worried about you !!!
          2. STARKOV
            STARKOV 6 June 2018 09: 06
            +4
            Quote: Chertt
            Do not be scared. The West will help us; wink There are fools and provocateurs in politics;

            I also hope ... But Trump of the EU also imposed sanctions to the fullest, they are now howling from resentment ... They can’t break Russia with sanctions, they rally and force officials to work, and not to receive bribes from Western companies .. And I remember they directly stated in the media “Why do we ourselves need to produce something and bother when you can just buy abroad ..” Russia not only withstood all this persecution, but also intensified world politics. Of course, the level of the USSR is still far away, but we are
        3. tagil
          tagil 6 June 2018 11: 11
          0
          That's for sure, but I think we have time.
    2. Krasnoyarsk
      Krasnoyarsk 6 June 2018 09: 04
      +9
      Quote: STARKOV
      God forbid the sanction otment ...)))

      Only id-that availability of sanctions helps to develop their own economies. Normal, even the lack of sanctions is not an obstacle to the development of its own economy.
      1. aleks_29296
        aleks_29296 6 June 2018 09: 40
        +1
        In our situation, sanctions are really an impetus for the development of our own production, as the Soviet legacy has almost collapsed, but there is little of its own. Accustomed to carrying everything from abroad.
        1. cost
          cost 6 June 2018 10: 10
          +1
          Putin spoke about the inverse effect of sanctions
        2. rocket757
          rocket757 6 June 2018 10: 16
          +1
          In our situation, the most necessary thing is a kick under the seat of the entire administrative apparatus of the country !!!
          While nothing like this is visible .....
          1. taiga2018
            taiga2018 6 June 2018 10: 24
            +2
            Quote: rocket757
            So far nothing of the kind has been seen

            not just not visible, but because of the sanctions, the chief whiner is also being appointed to an important public post ... so in this case we are seeing some kind of sanctioned bifurcation of our president ...
            1. rocket757
              rocket757 6 June 2018 10: 39
              +1
              And they ask why, many, dashing times of the Leader of the Peoples remember with nostalgia?
              It was dashing, according to everyone, but people realized that they (almost) went through it, still held together and inspired for feats and labor achievements!
              Now there is a dedicated group that does not suffer in any way and frankly scored on the people ... this society does not hold together.
              Such a simple choice - Either all together, or in favor of some at the expense of others!
              1. taiga2018
                taiga2018 6 June 2018 10: 45
                +4
                Quote: rocket757
                which does not suffer in any way and frankly scored on the people

                why should they suffer, children study abroad, they can be treated there with the whole family if necessary, so that they don’t have any interest in improving something in Russia ..
          2. Captain45
            Captain45 6 June 2018 11: 42
            +2
            Quote: rocket757
            In our situation, the most necessary thing is a kick under the seat of the entire administrative apparatus of the country !!!

            About this, Yu.V. Nikulin told a joke:
            the Nazis led in a concentration camp to shoot Russian, English and French. Ask the last wish. The Englishman says - whiskey and a pipe, the Frenchman - cognac and cigar. Dali, drank, stand smoking. They ask a Russian - well, and you, Ivan, vodka and shag? He says yes no. Let the healthiest kick me in the ass. The SS men were neighing, then the healthiest one came up, like a kick in the ass. The Russian flew up, rolled over in the air, grabbed the assault rifle from the hands of the fascist and shot everyone. Shouts it - run! They flee, a Frenchman and an Englishman are asked - hear, Russian, if you are so brave and dexterous, why did you wait until they shoot him? He says - such a nature, until kicked in the ass, reluctance to do anything. laughing
            1. rocket757
              rocket757 6 June 2018 12: 11
              +2
              Funny, only the absurdity is complete.
              Russian man, hard worker, breadwinner, worked all his life tirelessly!
              There were nuances, but this had nothing to do with hard work!
              The situation when a class is artificially created that, without actually working, will have its own bread and butter ... at the expense of an organized, regulated world!
              1. Captain45
                Captain45 6 June 2018 12: 18
                +1
                Quote: rocket757
                The situation when a class is artificially created that, without actually working, will have its own bread and butter ... at the expense of an organized, regulated world!

                A class that is not working in fact has, moreover, constantly, its own piece of bread with a thick layer of butter, not artificially created. This class was always and everywhere - leaders and shamans in the primitive community, feudal lords and clergy in the feudal, the nobility and the bourgeoisie, and also clergy in the bourgeois society, balabol-demagogues communists in the socialist. Although one advantage of socialism must be recognized - a bunch of parasites - loafers in bourgeois society has been replaced by a smaller number of loafers - party workers.
                1. rocket757
                  rocket757 6 June 2018 13: 03
                  +1
                  Any bureaucracy multiplies, that's a fact. Everywhere and always.
                  Assessment of the activity thereof can be put different ...
                  In principle, without a management apparatus, the state cannot exist, no one could propose and implement anything viable in exchange.
                  The issue of efficiency ... we do not have this with ah, many other places where the situation is no better.
                  How to decide what to do ??? It is she who rules in conjunction with the rich. They do not need changes.
                  So there is a question, how to make this inefficient, but already large enough mass just work fine?
                  They won’t come for anything, since the slightest crawl towards increased efficiency can lead to a reduction in that mass!
                  Unreal? Fantasy ... it seems like in the current state of affairs.
                  1. Captain45
                    Captain45 6 June 2018 19: 25
                    0
                    Quote: rocket757
                    Any bureaucracy multiplies, that's a fact. Everywhere and always.
                    Assessment of the activity thereof can be put different ...
                    In principle, without a management apparatus, the state cannot exist, no one could propose and implement anything viable in exchange.
                    The issue of efficiency ... we do not have this with ah, many other places where the situation is no better.

                    So who is arguing with this? If we want to live, then there must be a state. I remember such a movie "Sixth", there at the end of the film, when an accomplice of the gang leader was taken out and people rushed, so to speak, to punish her, the young policeman shot into the air and said: "We will judge her! We do not live in a gang!" And we have a state, whether someone likes it or not, but it is and will be. That is why all these cries often revolt me ​​and annoy me - we don’t do it, the president is not the same and not that. So what kind of vegetable sat snot chewing? Kept silent? So have what you have and have the courage to admit your bankruptcy in terms of leadership. If you couldn’t, didn’t pull - so what kind of vegetable to scream, close yourself in a rag and be silent. Nothing will change from your cries and lamentations. It’s only funny to become, looking at the empty attempts of useless screams and cries. Those who do something do it silently and much more efficiently. And you need to start small, at least with the management company at home.
                    1. Essex62
                      Essex62 7 June 2018 17: 10
                      +3
                      But an efficient and active gentleman doesn’t come to your mind that attempts to kick back against the bargain system end badly for the daredevil. Wickedness always gets lost in a flock and very quickly creates a force field around itself. Moreover, these substances that are not burdened with conscience can calmly attract those close to the problem, including small children. What grew up over 25 wild capitalism, personally terrifies me. State, why is it like that? It is comfortable only nonhumans with a complete lack of conscience of decency.
                      1. rocket757
                        rocket757 7 June 2018 22: 10
                        0
                        If you don’t do anything, don’t shout about anything and nothing will happen.
                        The authorities practically do not pay attention to lonely cries ... sometimes they will grab someone, publicly crush and that’s all!
                        That's when the protest begins to “grow” with supporters, like-minded people, then real friction and blows from those who save power will begin!
                        Our ancestors could! We are THEIR descendants! The most important thing is that this government, this system has not very well advanced for the development of our country, selfish interests, their motto and purpose ... for a normal, respectful attitude towards the people of our country, too, everything is very tense.
      2. Serg65
        Serg65 6 June 2018 10: 38
        0
        Quote: Krasnoyarsk
        Only id-that sanctions help develop our own economy

        laughing Oh I can’t, here you communists are burning good
        The USSR has lived all its life under sanctions, so do you think the idiots ruled there ???
        wassat
        1. Mordvin 3
          Mordvin 3 6 June 2018 10: 45
          +2
          Quote: Serg65
          Oh I can’t, here you communists are burning

          It is you who are burning. laughing I recall the meeting of the Cabinet. Such important guys are sitting as at the funeral of his beloved mother-in-law, and iPhone says: “Sanctions are good for us, but if they are, then we are ready to cancel them.”
          1. Serg65
            Serg65 6 June 2018 10: 51
            0
            Quote: Mordvin 3
            This is you scorching

            what Vladimir, so this is all a lie about sanctions against the USSR .... well, really, but I believed!
            1. Mordvin 3
              Mordvin 3 6 June 2018 10: 54
              0
              About these sanctions is well written in the work "Man changes the skin." Twenties and thirties.
        2. Svetlana
          Svetlana 6 June 2018 13: 16
          +5
          Quote: Serg65
          The USSR has lived all its life under sanctions, so do you think the idiots ruled there ???

          The USSR had everything of its own, and he did not care about them. And we, under sanctions, having nothing at all of our own, will soon die. Gasoline is not ours either, since the state does not control oil and gas companies. Hence the prices that it is not able to influence. Listen more to Uncle Pu's tales.
  2. LSA57
    LSA57 6 June 2018 08: 44
    +3
    According to Putin, those who supported the United States now themselves suffer from their own actions.

    but is it different when it was
    1. dSK
      dSK 6 June 2018 09: 44
      0
      feel the harmful effects on themselves, leads the Chinese Media Corporation the words of the President of the Russian Federation Vladimir Putin.

      Russian President Vladimir Putin in an interview with China Media Corporation said that Xi Jinping is the only world leader with whom he celebrated his birthday. “Perhaps Chairman Xi Jinping is the only leader among all world leaders with whom I had to celebrate one of my birthdays,” Putin said.
      According to him, before he had no relationship with anyone and work schedule so that you could celebrate his birthday with one of his foreign colleagues. “But we did it with Chairman Xi Jinping,” the president said. The Russian leader also added that they drank a glass of vodka and "cut some kind of sausage." Putin emphasized that Xi Jinping is a sincere person, but at the same time a reliable partner. “This is a very comfortable partner for me, a good and reliable friend,” the Russian leader added.
  3. Snail N9
    Snail N9 6 June 2018 08: 47
    +13
    Putin told ...

    He (Putin) likes to “tell” ... winked
    1. Vladivostok1969
      Vladivostok1969 6 June 2018 08: 59
      +8
      Andersen is resting Yes
      1. Alexander Romanov
        Alexander Romanov 6 June 2018 09: 44
        +4
        Quote: Snail N9
        He loves (Putin) to "tell" ..

        Amer in Putin threw a lump of mud
        Quote: Vladivostok1969
        Andersen is resting Yes

        And he became a friend of a communist from Vladivostok.
        1. Vladivostok1969
          Vladivostok1969 6 June 2018 10: 19
          +2
          Why are friends bad? Do you have them?
          1. Alexander Romanov
            Alexander Romanov 6 June 2018 10: 21
            +1
            Quote: Vladivostok1969
            Why are friends bad?

            Americans are very good friends. More backwater.
            Quote: Vladivostok1969
            Do you have them?

            I do not make friendship with amers. Here I would be a liberal or a communist, I would also put an outlaw plus.
            1. Snail N9
              Snail N9 6 June 2018 11: 00
              +2
              That I would be a liberal or a communist

              A-ah ... And then, "who"? Of those who "labels sticks" to others? And by the way, the "communist" with two "m" is written ... wink
              1. Alexander Romanov
                Alexander Romanov 6 June 2018 11: 50
                0
                Quote: Snail N9
                And by the way, the "communist" with two "m" is written ..

                Communists will praise you for this
    2. Ross xnumx
      Ross xnumx 6 June 2018 09: 01
      +7
      Quote: Snail N9
      Putin told ...

      He (Putin) likes to “tell” ... winked

      He will tell everything, he will show everything,
      And also tells what Father Barlaam spoke with Grishka the impostor on the Lithuanian border ...
      1. Snail N9
        Snail N9 6 June 2018 09: 34
        +5
        He also shows cartoons well .... winked
  4. Ross xnumx
    Ross xnumx 6 June 2018 08: 57
    +6
    At the same time, the President noted that, nevertheless, it proceeds from the fact that common sense will prevail and illegal restrictions harmful to the entire world economy, will gradually be removed.

    Is there any common sense among the insane? Tell us, dear in separate circles, how will bees give up honey? How will mosquitoes switch to nectar? Will be removed ... belay lol You know, they will be removed gradually, or in a jerk, or will remain, under them, as under shorts, there is not much other than a bare butt ... request
    А Russia normalizes its relations with all partners, including with the United States and its allies, who went on about Washington and apply these sanctions.
    Remind me when it happened? And was it at all? belay Tired of getting rich in thought ...
    1. siberalt
      siberalt 6 June 2018 10: 16
      +4
      In 2014, Putin said by box that in a year or a half, sanctions would be lifted and the rupe would strengthen. Maybe he did not mean the earthly year, but the Mars. But this deadline has already passed. winked
      1. Leshy1975
        Leshy1975 6 June 2018 13: 19
        +1
        Yes, he has all the speeches like that, maybe he thinks that no one remembers the previous statements.
  5. Comrade Ivanov
    Comrade Ivanov 6 June 2018 08: 57
    +2
    "I will light my house to burn the neighbor's hayloft."
    1. Dym71
      Dym71 6 June 2018 10: 24
      +1
      Quote: Comrade Ivanov
      "I will light my house to burn the hayloft of a neighbor"

      Comrade Ivanov, you have some boring jokes, are you from Gabrovo? bully
    2. Leshy1975
      Leshy1975 6 June 2018 13: 37
      0
      Yes, we already have it, just sipping with a smoke, well, it’s worth at least turning towards Donbas. So we are more likely the ones who noticed and wake up the remaining residents of the house. And not arsonists, just do not wait for it to blaze open.
  6. Uncle lee
    Uncle lee 6 June 2018 09: 02
    +1
    on aluminum (10%),
    and Deripaska threw his Rusal! Now this is Amal!
  7. Altona
    Altona 6 June 2018 09: 07
    +4
    The king made the discovery that you do not have to bend under the partners, but you have to go your own way, not sparing or looking back at someone else's opinion. 2014 to help you, Vladimir Vladimirovich. Now the tsar should still learn not to listen to the harmful advice of his liberal friends, who constantly go under their breath.
    1. sdc_alex
      sdc_alex 6 June 2018 10: 25
      +1
      Quote: Altona
      Now the tsar should still learn not to listen to the harmful advice of his liberal friends, who constantly go under their breath.

      ..... and start reading the statements of the "advisers" with VO. smile
    2. Vladivostok1969
      Vladivostok1969 7 June 2018 03: 07
      +2
      Here comes this "king" over the heads of the people without looking back. They crushed someone. They threw him into a ditch.
  8. milling machine
    milling machine 6 June 2018 09: 14
    +13
    If under the "sovereign path" is meant - to tear your people as sticky, raising the retirement age, housing and communal services, personal income tax, increasing energy prices, reducing (uniting) outpatient clinics, etc. - then in figs such sovereignty did not give up
    1. sdc_alex
      sdc_alex 6 June 2018 10: 24
      +1
      That's exactly what Vlasovites reasoned during the Second World War.
  9. Altona
    Altona 6 June 2018 09: 16
    +8
    Quote: frezer
    If under the "sovereign path" is meant - to tear your people as sticky, raising the retirement age, housing and communal services, personal income tax, increasing energy prices, reducing (uniting) outpatient clinics, etc. - then in figs such sovereignty did not give up

    -----------------------------
    The king lives in some kind of neutral country, generally detached from reality.
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      1. Vladivostok1969
        Vladivostok1969 7 June 2018 03: 09
        +2
        I wonder how much it will cost us?
  10. Black joe
    Black joe 6 June 2018 09: 16
    +4
    Putin spoke about the reverse impact of anti-Russian sanctions

    Whom did you personally mean?
    1. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 6 June 2018 09: 45
      +1
      Quote: Black Joe
      Whom did you personally mean?

      Have you already found Putin’s 100 billion bucks?
      1. Leshy1975
        Leshy1975 6 June 2018 13: 29
        +4
        did you touch the sun with your hand? But it is hot, and no one has touched, and the majority of people know this. Those. other methods, besides presenting this money in kind (bills, you say, are not the evidence), put the GDP next to it and let it admit under the cameras that it is (100 or another figure)? The only way?
      2. Svetlana
        Svetlana 6 June 2018 15: 03
        +3
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        Have you already found Putin’s 100 billion bucks?

        The one who found and tried to show the people lies in the grave, and the guilty party was not found or was attributed to heart failure.
  11. bald
    bald 6 June 2018 09: 31
    +1
    Moreover, sanctions are gradually beginning to act against the initiator himself - the United States. Turn away from them gradually, but surely.
    1. rocket757
      rocket757 6 June 2018 10: 22
      +2
      Hi Vladimir soldier
      Sooner or later, any action has its planned consequences ... however, it happens that the reaction will be stronger!
      They won’t push us, in any way, only our opposition is very peculiar!
      Where it is almost densely, but in many ways it’s empty!
      Ento is sad, because as you wish, we were waiting for such a real leap forward! Schaub, everything is strong and right!
      1. bald
        bald 6 June 2018 19: 43
        +1
        Good evening Victor. On foreign policy, so far everything is going fine. The fact that we are here, sometimes banging our feet to kick, is not quite right. After all, we absolutely do not know the behind-the-scenes games, for example, with Israel. And when you don’t know what’s at the ready, you begin to give free rein to feelings, and this is nothing like politics. The opposition is peculiar, but it acts and glory to God. But what is happening inside the country - oh yo yo.
  12. sgr291158
    sgr291158 6 June 2018 09: 45
    0
    For what they fought for it and ran into it, continue to howl, they will make you a goat face.
  13. Essex62
    Essex62 6 June 2018 10: 30
    +4
    The Masters of the World are sitting in their pool (their servants are hustling behind it) and chuckling at stupid little people. They are hiding something, imagining themselves as kings, visitors, sovereigns and sitting tightly on a hook, cut, painted paper. We were the last real emperor in 1982 buried. Oh, and freemasons freaked out that they could not grab Soviet power for reasons, respected and feared. And the Chinese "communist" Ping is no exception. The world will be swept away by a baryzh ideology without options, one ray is North Korea, which is not bent.
    1. Snail N9
      Snail N9 6 June 2018 16: 32
      -1
      Well, there is a "girl" - a "Cossack" -agent of influence, I’m afraid for North Korea everything will soon turn out .... "a democratic way of development" ....
      1. Essex62
        Essex62 7 June 2018 17: 25
        +1
        Break your teeth. They will have to change psychology for a long time. The scoop is ripe for 91, the real believers are decrepit and the noose was released. Baryzh metastases went into society in the form of farce and workshop workers. And still, a bunch of people had to soak the labeled ones, in the manual, so that everything would grow together. Reduce your influential, as they say, ordinary Korean Communists, even not connecting the local office.
  14. KERMET
    KERMET 6 June 2018 10: 47
    0
    Quote: STARKOV
    God forbid the sanction otment ...)))

    It’s a pity that our government dreams about the opposite
  15. private person
    private person 6 June 2018 10: 50
    +4
    Yes, our BB can speak as much pride in the country bursting.
  16. Gardamir
    Gardamir 6 June 2018 11: 35
    +8
    Well, thank God! More sanctions, Russia only flourishes from them. But then the Russian government can disperse, and leave the sanctions?
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  18. GRIGORIY76
    GRIGORIY76 6 June 2018 12: 43
    +3
    And the great one put sanctions on a par with protectionism, but this is the most important element of support for the domestic manufacturer. Although why me, it’s a typical liberal approach of the main liberal. How can national interests be defended without intensive economic development? How can one support a person who professes liberal principles but at the same time scold people whom he appointed?
  19. Leshy1975
    Leshy1975 6 June 2018 13: 40
    0
    Quote: sdc_alex
    Quote: Altona
    Now the tsar should still learn not to listen to the harmful advice of his liberal friends, who constantly go under their breath.

    ..... and start reading the statements of the "advisers" with VO. smile

    maybe not the worst advice, I think it would not even turn out badly. Well, at least for 90% of the country's population.
  20. Leshy1975
    Leshy1975 6 June 2018 14: 22
    +2
    and whoever says "about the barricades" here, nobody says, everyone knows that we have a rule-of-law state and you can "get it right" under the law for this. And it’s getting worse now (you can bring official data if you really believe them). And about what would be better? (These can only be better for themselves: Moscow. February 14. INTERFAX.RU - Sberbank of Russia paid 2017 billion rubles to board members in 5,108, which is 42,2% higher than the level of payments in 2016, follows from the quarterly report of the credit institution.)
  21. Leshy1975
    Leshy1975 6 June 2018 14: 29
    0
    Quote: 79807420129
    Quote: Vladivostok1969
    Where are you now? Probably in the trench?

    And I work and do not yell in the internet
    Quote: Vladivostok1969
    "The Lord endured and commanded us." So what? Not tired?

    Neither Putin, nor Grudinin, nor Trump and Zyuganov will feed my family and the family will not be full of slogans, Thank God that
    Quote: Vladivostok1969
    No one spoke about the barricades.

    You understand that after the barricades it will only get worse.
    1. Leshy1975
      Leshy1975 6 June 2018 14: 35
      +1
      And now every day is getting better and better, I even know such people: Moscow. The 14th of February. INTERFAX.RU - In 2017, Sberbank of Russia paid 5,108 billion rubles to members of the board, which is 42,2% higher than the level of payments in 2016, follows from the quarterly report of the credit institution.
      1. Golovan Jack
        Golovan Jack 6 June 2018 15: 20
        0
        Quote: Leshy1975
        Sberbank of Russia paid 2017 billion rubles to board members in 5,108

        Is it gross or net, are you up to date?
        1. Leshy1975
          Leshy1975 6 June 2018 22: 52
          +1
          the article did not say before tax or after, so I will not say. Yes, I was more surprised not by the amount itself, but by the growth figure: by 42,2% higher than the level of payments in 2016. This is against the background of the officer. data on falling incomes. Modestly so "compensated for inflation."
  22. Opera
    Opera 6 June 2018 15: 17
    +2
    rocket757,
    Quote: rocket757
    First of all, a person should take care of himself, himself, but the state should not shirk his obligations!

    Do you take care of yourself on your own? About all your loved ones, including parents, who are likely to care only you too ?! You have no job? You are not able to find it because it simply is not? Or do you work but don’t have the opportunity to live on your salary? Your parents and you yourself, your children do not attend the clinic and do not use the services of doctors at all? Your parents don’t have a pension at all or is it so small that it’s not possible to live on it ?! Are you starving? How do you even live? And the most interesting where ?!
    Everything is bad with you and the fact that you got the property is not the merit of the authorities! And whose? Before that, this housing was really yours? Could you dispose of it? We have a small average salary ?! Yes, not big! Ah, even less than the small you say ?! Well then, be honest and tell me how much money we have paid according to gray schemes, and the employee and employer avoid taxes ?! These figures are certainly not added to the average salary! I have a personal question for you - how old are you? Enough? Well, remember yourself before Putin's 2000! All 90s remember! Yes, and the 80s too! Did you live better? Let me remind you. I served in CA 1986 - 1988. So here in our unit in the Kaluga region, sorry for the expression, there was nothing to eat! I am 50 years old. I was born in 1967 and since 1986 I haven’t taken off my shoulder strap! Do you not like life now? But to me, dear, there is something to compare! I didn’t like the officers to unload their families to feed their wagons or to leave for bandits or get drunk from hopelessness! I did not like when the Russians were driven out of all the Union republics! And even earlier, I didn’t like it when the simplest and most natural human things that you don’t even think about now were luxury! Tell, which ones or yourself remember? What Putin’s power has given Russia can be enumerated for a very long time, but I would say first of all these things — peace in Russia itself, preserving the integrity of the state, work and the ability to earn money, maternity capital is a very important thing (when and what you just like that gave), the revival of the army and the sensations of a truly great country, Crimea ...
    1. sergei28
      sergei28 6 June 2018 16: 55
      +1
      not PI.DI! where did you see the hunger?
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    4. Leshy1975
      Leshy1975 6 June 2018 17: 43
      +5
      Quote: Oper
      What Putin’s power has given Russia can be enumerated for a very long time, but I would say first of all these things — peace in Russia itself, preserving the integrity of the state, work and the ability to earn money, maternity capital is a very important thing (when and what you just like that gave), the revival of the army and the sensations of a truly great country, Crimea ...

      Let's start in order
      - the world in Russia itself.
      If civilians die in the conduct of hostilities, this is peace. Where do they die? In Donbas, yes, with passports of the Russian Federation too. It is our fellow citizens, precisely when maintaining the database. (although for me all fellow citizens who are "made in the USSR. My birth certificate says so)
      -saving the integrity of the state.
      If you do not remember that the Russian Federation is only part of historical Russia, and do not try to return to our usual state and size. (what is 27 years compared with the long history of Russia). And we are not trying, on the contrary, they quarreled with everyone in a circle.
      -work and the opportunity to earn.
      If you are to yourself, well, and definitely not many. Then yes, it is accepted. And even at the office. statistics, who really believes her, the incomes of the bulk of the population, at least do not grow. (just do not compare with the 90s, otherwise I will compare the 90s with 1917 and prove how elegantly they lived in the 90s). So, the impoverishment of the population, a dubious merit.
      -maternal capital is a very important thing.
      Yes, important, I agree. Although a small note. His task is to increase the birth rate, but for some reason this almost did not affect Russian families.
      -revival of the army.
      I’m not a military man myself, as I personally don’t know in the army, I hope who will answer. But if you take the security forces as a whole. That Ministry of Emergency Situations under Puchkov, which under Putin, yes, here talent is needed "to revive." No, on tv. They assured us that everyone was hurt.
      - Feeling really great country.
      Well, let's start: the flag and the team at the Olympics, flags and diplomatic property in Ukraine and the USA, the NORD ship, illegal seizures (according to the TV) of our fellow citizens of Ukraine and the USA, PMCs near Hisham, dousing of the head of Russian cooperation in Kiev with green and feces, an indication to preserve transit through Ukraine (even Miller with senior officials, on TV, said that we were tearing everything apart, and nothing else. And then, well, the truth was no longer speaking on the TV, but they were extended), arrests of Gazprom property by decision of the Stockholm arbitration. I don’t even want to list everything further. Yes, they are such sensations, deceiving, you think, but it turns out to be you.
      -Crimea ...
      I am happy for the Crimea. Really happy. But to have such a chance and pros..t all the rest of Ukraine (if not all, without Bandera), but certainly most of it. Those. use the chance at 15%, and not at least 80%, not to mention 100%. Is it a merit?
      Overall a strong impression. Maybe of course you don’t see something, don’t understand, I myself was somewhat similar, but the truth is not so much of the views until 2015. Because otherwise: licked so licked, from heels.
      1. Captain45
        Captain45 6 June 2018 19: 35
        0
        Quote: Leshy1975
        If civilians die in the conduct of hostilities, this is peace. Where do they die? In Donbas, yes, with passports of the Russian Federation too. It is our fellow citizens, precisely when maintaining the database. (although for me all fellow citizens who are "made in the USSR. My birth certificate says so)

        At first I wanted to answer and justify the objections, and then I thought to whom and for what. You still won’t understand, because for you the main thing is to crow, and there at least do not dawn. And I have something to say that he was born in the USSR, and I know firsthand the war in Chechnya, which you are comparing with the Donbass. But I don’t want to explain to you, you still won’t understand.
        1. Leshy1975
          Leshy1975 6 June 2018 22: 40
          +5
          Why so? There is something to say, especially as you write, reasonably, I am always happy. There will be a discussion, we will give arguments, you look, and one of us, well, or read and change our mind. And in disputes, as you know, truth is born. Don’t think, I’m far from being stupid, I accept the facts, links, and even more so in a logical chain, perfectly. And then you see how simple it was, I hung the labels: “First I wanted to answer and substantiate the objections, and then I thought to whom and for what. You still won’t understand, because for you the main thing is to crow, and at least don’t dawn there” and proudly self-esteem, retired. Oh yes, what about the evidence? And why, the labels are already hanging. I’ve also lifted up a paravoz, don’t you believe? Oh do not believe? Well then, I will not prove to you, below my dignity. So it turns out. Do not like the way I write, or the facts presented? Well, the facts, as you know, are generally stubborn, and therefore unpleasant. And yes, I quote you: "I know the war in Chechnya, which you are comparing with the Donbass firsthand."
          That they participated in the database is respectful in itself, but just give a quote where I compare the war in Chechnya with the Donbas. Bad start, for reasonable objections.
          Want to enter into a substantiated discussion with examples, and not just emotions, I will be glad. hi
    5. rocket757
      rocket757 6 June 2018 19: 26
      +3
      Oper (Igor) Today, 15:17
      rocket757,
      Quote: rocket757
      First of all, a person should take care of himself, himself, but the state should not shirk his obligations!

      "Grandfather", we can not - Quietly with myself I drive a demon-ride! - a joke ... we will not measure epaulettes and merits before the motherland, just accept as a fact that I butted a lot before you finished school ... and the hell knew where, where we were not at all ... .
      I survived all the stages of the collapse of the great country of the Soviets just like millions of my fellow citizens, we can be a little softer than some, but this is simply an exception to the general rules. It was no longer necessary to unload wagons as in our student years ... mastered professions and personal skills helped out!
      Excursion into the past EVERYTHING! For today, we don’t have to ascribe to our power, the GDP is the merit of another state, even if we are the right to receive it ... they will have their own mistakes and achievements!
      The previous ones, before GDP, I don’t want to discuss sales, there’s one folklore!
      GDP has one indisputable achievement - they stopped the complete collapse of the country, restore sovereignty, etc. I do not discuss the reasons for sales; the fact itself is worthy of recognition. .... Syria !!! In my opinion, this is fidelity to allied duty, aerobatics in politics, and in the modern world it is finally CLASS! The army, politics, some development of industry, then a lot of things, but not of fundamental importance.
      We get a barrel of honey, not empty but far from complete !!! And now I have to start throwing tar at her, as in the best Russian traditions!
      So, I have a LOT of fly in the ointment, I can justify each with FACTS, EVIDENCE, if necessary DOCUMENTS!
      It turns out our power is like a medok but with such an obvious darling !!!
    6. Vladivostok1969
      Vladivostok1969 7 June 2018 03: 29
      +2
      I served in CA 1986 - 1988. So here in our unit in the Kaluga region, sorry for the expression, there was nothing to eat! I am 50 years old. I was born in 1967 and since 1986 I haven’t taken off my shoulder strap!

      As you say, there was nothing for the “sailors” to eat in training at Russky Island in 1995. And they were fed normally in the Soviet army. Only the first-year-olds “didn’t have enough” mom’s pies. It’s not worth boasting. We all served.
      1. rocket757
        rocket757 7 June 2018 08: 13
        +2
        In the Land of Soviets, we were EQUAL .... we did, served, the Motherland Took care of us !!! How could, but we certainly did not feel deprived of her care!
        I regret that such a great country ... did not become it and it was not the choice of the PEOPLE, that's for sure!
        1. Vladivostok1969
          Vladivostok1969 7 June 2018 08: 25
          +3
          I have nothing to add here. I agree with you 100% hi
    7. Svetlana
      Svetlana 7 June 2018 14: 59
      +3
      Quote: Oper
      Do you take care of yourself on your own? About all your loved ones, including parents, who are likely to care only you too ?! You have no job? You are not able to find it because it simply is not? Or do you work but don’t have the opportunity to live on your salary? Your parents and you yourself, your children do not attend the clinic and do not use the services of doctors at all? Your parents don’t have a pension at all or is it so small that it’s not possible to live on it ?! Are you starving? How do you even live? And the most interesting where ?!

      That's all that you described, approximately, in Russia with the people happening. We do not starve, of course, because we are forced to eat (because there is no alternative) all chemistry, and from that we are sick, children are born already sick. Not all, but very many sick children, ask pediatric doctors. Many who have the opportunity, while being saved by products from their household, will soon take this opportunity away from people. Life expectancy is growing only according to smart uncles from the TV, as well as the quality of life. People go to polyclinics and hospitals by the most urgent need, when they are completely ready, and it is not a fact that there is any sense in this. Senior citizens, indeed, live in poverty. In the USSR it was possible, if desired, to earn the maximum pension - 120 rubles, and with this money it was possible to live normally and help grandchildren. And now on 10-15 thousand how to live? There is no normal work anywhere. Production closed and their remains continue to be closed. Almost everyone does not work in their specialty in order to be able to earn money at all. And most are forced to work in two or more jobs, since one salary for life is no longer enough. Yes, everyone in families had a car, or even three, we began to travel abroad, supermarkets were packed with groceries, clothes and household appliances are in all stores. But only all of this consumer goods was not produced by ourselves in our country, but in China or Vietnam or in Turkey. Quality medicines are European and American. Those. we are 100% dependent on imports. In addition to creating a huge sales market for all shit in our country, to the delight of our enemies, we became dependent and helpless in the event of any sanctions, severance of relations with those who supply us with goods, and, God forbid, some other situations worse. They stopped supplying high-quality dairy products to us, our hucksters immediately fumbled and started to drive them out of low-grade palm oil, from which only technical lubricants are made in Europe, and we eat it, die of cancer and give praise to Pu ... Lord for our happy well-fed a life. I'm not talking about the ongoing decline in morality, culture and education, the destruction of science. This is a separate topic. You have served since 1986 year. So, remember what the Army was. Yes, even then a mess began in the country and the authorities erased everything they could home, in the construction battalion the soldiers built summer cottages for the generals and renovated the apartments. But the army was still strong, it was prestigious to be an officer, soldiers were taught to fight. What are they doing now in the army? Why don't they really teach anything? Why is the whole form from underwear to winter pea jackets made of artificial materials? You, a man with epaulettes, answer - how efficient is our army now? So many frail and sick guys, who spent all their childhood at the computer! And the number? Is such an army able to withstand someone? Can they shoot at the enemy?
      I know roughly what you will answer. You were able to adapt normally to life in the wild bazaar capitalism, which means that others who could not, are lazy people or fools. No, dear. Many, too, were forced to adapt and live - do not live in poverty. But, the fact that the country was betrayed and torn to pieces has not passed since the time of Gorbachev and Yeltsin, it continues now, only quietly and imperceptibly, quietly from the people. We are told on TV one thing - as evidence they poke store shelves full of cars and crowded shops, but in reality another thing happens - the genocide of the population. Wild nomadic peoples survive, and we are dying out.
      1. rocket757
        rocket757 7 June 2018 15: 38
        +2
        I’ll add another big spoonful of tar - besides the physiological above, there is a very important concept, as the spiritual health of the nation!
        Just to build temples and not to allow frank dominance of rainbow motives, this is not enough!
        A lot of what was bright and important in that former state, the Country of Soviets, is crushing, being destroyed, because for the current regime of the rich it is mortally dangerous.
        The authorities do not need a smart, spiritually full-fledged person .... they need a consumer, and in limited quantities.
        1. Svetlana
          Svetlana 7 June 2018 19: 33
          +2
          Quote: rocket757
          I’ll add another big spoonful of tar - besides the physiological above, there is a very important concept, as the spiritual health of the nation!

          I talked about this. What is the decline of morality, culture and education, the destruction of science. Yes, so that the people would not understand what was happening to him and in the country, he considered import shit to be good for the shit and watch the Pahabism on TV.
          Who says Putin raised the army? He, along with a lay minister, turns her into a helpless football team. All exercises are nominal, and strategically important enterprises are slowly being bought by foreign partners, as are the strategically important resources of the country. In order not to let the Germans go to the oil fields during the Second World War, so many people were killed, our grandfathers, and we will surrender them to them in peacetime without fighting.
          1. rocket757
            rocket757 7 June 2018 22: 21
            0
            The army is just equipped and learn, here they pull to the norm! In light of the confrontation with an external competitor, this is a mandatory argument.
            For foreign partners, everything is complicated, according to open information you cannot build a picture, too much lies.
            1. Svetlana
              Svetlana 7 June 2018 22: 33
              +2
              Quote: rocket757
              The army is just equipped and learn, here they pull to the norm! In light of the confrontation with an external competitor, this is a mandatory argument.

              How does she study and equip herself and how should she? Do you know the current military or also from "open sources"? Is such equipment in quantitative and qualitative terms sufficient to confront NATO? Or at least with one China? I am sure that no, despite all the "unprecedented successes and achievements." Yes, and not really believe in them. It’s ridiculous to listen to the fact that they are drilling on TV. Propaganda in style: yes, we will throw these queers and wimps with caps.
              1. rocket757
                rocket757 8 June 2018 08: 29
                0
                I am a warrior in life and in essence! The military is retired.
                Therefore, I will not answer the id-d-dsk question about the OPPOSITION with NATO.
                Take it as a fact - Russia, a state that can destroy ANY adversary on planet Earth! By the way, and the Earth at the same time! We can’t fight, no one can fight with us .... only small-town, limited conflicts outside our territory.
                This is the situation! This is not forever, therefore it will be necessary to develop military potential, new weapons and other related things.
                1. Svetlana
                  Svetlana 8 June 2018 09: 55
                  +3
                  Quote: rocket757
                  Therefore, I will not answer the id-d-dsk question about the OPPOSITION with NATO.

                  Here to my id-id question you gave the corresponding answer - NO! And there’s nothing more to talk about. Nobody will use nuclear weapons, either on our side or on our side. And we have absolutely nothing to be proud of. Unless with their hardy, persistent people, but also they slowly turn it into.
                  1. rocket757
                    rocket757 8 June 2018 10: 42
                    0
                    This is not your question ... not that! This is the theme of the confrontation ....
                    Sorry, rudely, wrote a soldier’s, but the truth!
                    Purely from a military point of view, confrontation could be considered when there were TWO opposing blocs commensurate in military potential! Those. it was possible to plan military operations not by vigorous means ... and then, the domocles sword of a nuclear strike hung over everyone!
                    Because serious conflicts did not take place!
                    Now the military potential, NATO is Russia, is incommensurable and we can only rely on the doctrine of the defensive use of TACTICAL nuclear! Since there is only one step from a tactical to a global strike, no one will take a chance! This is the STATED DOCTRINE of our state and no one can ignore it!
                    Will, will not, it’s better not to guess .... you always need to keep in mind the worst, but hope for the best!
                    To clarify - according to conventional weapons, the number of military and mob reserves, we cannot butt and compete with the NATO bloc! We are smaller, we are smaller, industry, defense industry less, this is an obvious fact.
                    I do not propose to rely only on vigorous, but so far it is precisely this non-aggression factor in our country.
                    The Yankees are working on the idea of ​​a "preventive, disarming strike" and this is VERY dangerous ... I hope our political and military circles are following the topic and the developments are being implemented, opposition to the plans is being implemented.
                    So I wanted to say - Sleep well! - but unfortunately our country, our people have enough other, more real, threats at the moment! For which both you and we have already written.
                    soldier
                    1. Svetlana
                      Svetlana 8 June 2018 11: 38
                      +1
                      Quote: rocket757
                      So I wanted to say - Sleep well!

                      Can't we sleep well until
                      Quote: rocket757
                      in terms of conventional weapons, the number of military and mob reserve, we can butter with the NATO bloc, it IS IMPOSSIBLE to compete! We are smaller, we are smaller, industry, defense industry less, this is an obvious fact.

                      There are no guarantees that the enemy that has surrounded us from all sides will not start provoking us or simply will not brazenly crawl into our territory, despite the “partnership” relations with the West and, in general, “friendship forever” with China. Friendship is so far based on treacherous concessions on our part. But if the people at some point rebel against this state of affairs or China gets numb, feeling our weakness, and wants more, then a mess will begin and a lot of blood will be shed. In this case, we cannot use nuclear weapons. On the one hand, we are already being destroyed without wars, the West has little sense in spending the extra resources on our quick extermination, and on the other, the likelihood of new hybrid wars is very high. And we are not ready for them, you yourself admit it. For something, we were drawn into the wars in Ukraine and Syria. It’s a lie that it’s beneficial to us, because in Syria we tested some new weapons. At the cost of the lives of so many people, it makes no sense to test at the cost of such huge material costs. Are we protecting our interests there? Perhaps, to some extent, yes. But, perhaps, the interests of the oligarchic elite are in a greater degree - in Ukraine, in Syria. In addition to the depletion of all imaginable resources, we have achieved nothing. The wars have become protracted and our resources will continue to be depleted further, making us only weaker. Those traitors who destroyed the Warsaw Pact, and then the USSR, sought the position we were in now. And their followers do nothing to get out of this situation. If we do not restore the former power, we will be wiped out sooner or later.
                      1. rocket757
                        rocket757 8 June 2018 11: 54
                        0
                        The mistake is not a military man, in fact, a vigorous weapon MAY be used!
                        This is how to ask the commissioner in the SA (deputy chief for educational work) - Is it possible to win a vigorous war? .... do you think that he always answered?
                        Nuclear, it is also different! power from the total incineration of a site the size of a couple of decent country societies! to the super-duper, one hit and half whatsoever, of the especially impudent island, if it isn’t!
                        Our arsenal is vast and diverse, there are people who are ready to press a button or drop a bomb .... so I really advise you for this topic, you can sleep peacefully, a dozen different years, for sure!
                      2. Captain45
                        Captain45 9 June 2018 15: 35
                        0
                        Quote: Svetlana
                        Can't we sleep well until

                        "There will be no peace while Javdet is alive. Meet him, do not kill!" laughing (c) Said "The White Sun of the Desert"
  23. Snail N9
    Snail N9 6 June 2018 17: 05
    +4
    Quote: Oper
    rocket757,
    Quote: rocket757
    First of all, a person should take care of himself, himself, but the state should not shirk his obligations!

    Do you take care of yourself on your own? About all your loved ones, including parents, who are likely to care only you too ?! You have no job? You are not able to find it because it simply is not? Or do you work but don’t have the opportunity to live on your salary? Your parents and you yourself, your children do not attend the clinic and do not use the services of doctors at all? Your parents don’t have a pension at all or is it so small that it’s not possible to live on it ?! Are you starving? How do you even live? And the most interesting where ?!
    Everything is bad with you and the fact that you got the property is not the merit of the authorities! And whose? Before that, this housing was really yours? Could you dispose of it? We have a small average salary ?! Yes, not big! Ah, even less than the small you say ?! Well then, be honest and tell me how much money we have paid according to gray schemes, and the employee and employer avoid taxes ?! These figures are certainly not added to the average salary! I have a personal question for you - how old are you? Enough? Well, remember yourself before Putin's 2000! All 90s remember! Yes, and the 80s too! Did you live better? Let me remind you. I served in CA 1986 - 1988. So here in our unit in the Kaluga region, sorry for the expression, there was nothing to eat! I am 50 years old. I was born in 1967 and since 1986 I haven’t taken off my shoulder strap! Do you not like life now? But to me, dear, there is something to compare! I didn’t like the officers to unload their families to feed their wagons or to leave for bandits or get drunk from hopelessness! I did not like when the Russians were driven out of all the Union republics! And even earlier, I didn’t like it when the simplest and most natural human things that you don’t even think about now were luxury! Tell, which ones or yourself remember? What Putin’s power has given Russia can be enumerated for a very long time, but I would say first of all these things — peace in Russia itself, preserving the integrity of the state, work and the ability to earn money, maternity capital is a very important thing (when and what you just like that gave), the revival of the army and the sensations of a truly great country, Crimea ...

    Well, so the warriors, but the cops are now expanse ... like the rest, those who are at the state "feeding" ... the rest, those who are forced by the "market" way to get their own "food" ... I won’t even say- You still do not understand, we live on different sides of the "barricades" ... hi
    1. rocket757
      rocket757 6 June 2018 19: 44
      +1
      Do not confuse the bureaucratic "nettle seed" with the servants, although they are sovereign both, they pull the strap in different ways!
      Fight against injustice done by anyone, all the same is not a barricade confrontation, we can as a very extreme, radical manifestation.
      We are all human people, everyone has problems and they must be solved together! The oppressor, the enemy, we can be the same!
      1. Svetlana
        Svetlana 7 June 2018 15: 10
        +2
        Quote: rocket757
        We are all human people, everyone has problems and they must be solved together! The oppressor, the enemy, we can be the same!

        He cannot be - he is and will be for a long time. Here is the question: with whom is our power - with us or against us with him (alone)? It seems to me - the last.
        1. rocket757
          rocket757 7 June 2018 15: 19
          +1
          There was the Soviet people, there was the police, others serving blood and flesh from the people!
          Capitalism has become, the power of capital, now the police, all sorts of guards who can / should defend the powers that be, consider the capitalists!
          The dilemma is old and the methods are the same - Divide and conquer! -
          The most important thing, the lousy one, is that we are a single people, very nominally !!!
          That's when we realize, we will be able to become one, then we will speak on equal terms with the authorities!
          It is very likely that then our power will not be nominal!
          1. Captain45
            Captain45 9 June 2018 15: 39
            0
            Quote: rocket757
            That's when we realize, we will be able to become one, then we will speak on equal terms with the authorities!
            It is very likely that then our power will not be nominal!

            Like the founder: “When the idea takes over the masses,” then “it is necessary to take mail, phone, telegraph, train stations and a bank” (c) This is a living allowance, therefore, again - “Learn to do military affairs in this way!” (c) V.I. Lenin
            1. rocket757
              rocket757 10 June 2018 00: 02
              0
              The seizure of power as the Bolsheviks is extreme. Now it is doubtful that this is possible.
              There are other methods of cooperation or defending their interests for the population of the country. Already not so extreme and almost bloodless.
              Let me clarify, the working class still remains the main driving force of any confrontation with the government, capitalist, bureaucracy!
  24. Old Horseradish
    Old Horseradish 6 June 2018 17: 31
    +3
    Putin spoke about the reverse impact of anti-Russian sanctions

    But he doesn’t want to tell about raising the retirement age?
  25. Sergey ippon
    Sergey ippon 7 June 2018 01: 04
    +3
    All the brothers of our Belarusians roll cylinders ..
    And now the question of backfill - once and there is no gas and oil industry - what? ...
    except as it would be better and would get off the needle))
    Oh well ))
    under the USSR how much the barrel cost and it didn’t care, and now if it also rolls off -objectively, we’ll be worse than Ukraine ... it’s insulting. negative 20 years have passed .. the glory of life-giving oil!
    ugh damn .. survived (
    1. Svetlana
      Svetlana 7 June 2018 15: 17
      +3
      Quote: Sergey Ippon
      under the USSR how much the barrel cost and it didn’t care, and now if it also rolls off -objectively, we’ll be worse than Ukraine ... it’s insulting. 20 years have passed .. the glory of life-giving oil!
      ugh damn .. survived (

      Only now Putin "scolded" his government and asked with a menacing look (people on the line asked a question): what the hell was gas so expensive (and it was sitting with such a look that, supposedly, "what do I have to do with it?"). At first, he explained as best he could: "Well, you see, oil has risen in price on the international market, so all radishes are compensating for their costs at the expense of the domestic market." At the expense of the people, that is. Was it not the same explanation when oil fell, while gasoline and other energy resources went up in price? We for them to such an extent suckers? And, although, yes, 76% voted for all this. They flogged themselves. By right, then.
      1. Sergey ippon
        Sergey ippon 7 June 2018 21: 56
        +1
        ehh ..ushle (radishes) voted for the power of the oligarchs and slaves, but flogged everyone
  26. Svetlana
    Svetlana 8 June 2018 12: 51
    +1
    Who rules us?
  27. Essex62
    Essex62 8 June 2018 17: 04
    +1
    Quote: Vladivostok1969
    I served in CA 1986 - 1988. So here in our unit in the Kaluga region, sorry for the expression, there was nothing to eat! I am 50 years old. I was born in 1967 and since 1986 I haven’t taken off my shoulder strap!

    As you say, there was nothing for the “sailors” to eat in training at Russky Island in 1995. And they were fed normally in the Soviet army. Only the first-year-olds “didn’t have enough” mom’s pies. It’s not worth boasting. We all served.

    By the way, in 86-88 years, during the period immediately preceding the coup, there could well be nothing for the soldiers to eat. He corrupted the mishandled Cossack army, embittered against Soviet power. I have a colleague, that’s exactly what she says at work, then he served an urgent one. And what is characteristically embittered by a man against the Communists. As is understandable, they turned everything very cleverly - they deprived the goals and created many deprivations. And without an idea, a person should understand for what and for something abstract ........ such as universal values.