Israel showed a new development of armored car

5 2018 June

The Israeli company Carmor announced the creation of a machine of modular design Mantis (Mantis), on the basis of which, depending on the customer's wishes, any version of an armored car can be created, reports "Warspot". The armored vehicle is built on the principle of armored capsules, which is also the central supporting element of the structure.

Israel showed a new development of armored car

The first in the Mantis family was a triple car in the back of a pickup truck. At the same time in Carmor indicate that on the basis of the same platform can be assembled 5-local armored car, as well as 8-local version, which will be produced in an armored or open body.

As stated in the oleggranovsky blog, the Mantis has good traffic on rough terrain of various types, high speed on dirt roads, and excellent maneuverability in urban environments. It is suitable for patrolling, reconnaissance, as a command and staff vehicle, for providing combat support. Can be used as a mobile radio or ambulance. The frame of the machine allows to provide the necessary level of protection, but due to its relatively low weight, it has high maneuverability and dynamic qualities. The cabin is equipped with special air purifiers and filters that protect against agents.

This vehicle will be presented at the Eurosatory international arms exhibition, which will be held in Paris from 10 to 14 on June 2018.

Photos used:: https://www.vesty.co.il

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Alex-a832 5 June 2018 16: 11
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An interesting example, in contrast to the electric buggy for the US Army.
1. Nasrat 5 June 2018 16: 31
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  A global trend with buggies for the military ... especially after the Syrian battles ...
  1. Alex-a832 5 June 2018 16: 59
    
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    Yes, the trend is being traced. It is more for the desert and other low-water areas will go. For our places, in order to use it instead of a "mess", it is clearly not enough buoyancy, in my opinion. Something similar and we will have it soon (in the concept), I suppose.
    1. ALEXXX1983 5 June 2018 17: 54
      
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      For their theater, buoyancy is somewhere at the very end of the list of technical requirements.
      1. yehat 6 June 2018 14: 06
        
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        volatility is more in demand)))
  2. san4es 5 June 2018 18: 36
    
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    Quote: Nasr
    A global trend with buggies for the military ... especially after the Syrian battles ...
    
    Panhard CRAB Aug 18 2012 year
2. venik 6 June 2018 13: 25
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  An interesting example, in contrast to the electric buggy for the US Army.
  
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  Well what to say? - "Jewish armored car"
  
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  No! God forbid, I’m not an anti-Semite! It’s just exactly what they used to call the “humpbacked" Cossack "...........
  1. Victorio 6 June 2018 22: 56
    
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    Well what to say? - "Jewish armored car
    
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    I must say, it was a good car, of the minuses - basked
ANCIENT 5 June 2018 16: 16
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Double feelings. .. On the one hand, it’s good that there is an armored capsule, and what level of protection, how many explosives can withstand under the wheel, will a simple trawl bomb kill the crew? ??
1. Dezinto 5 June 2018 16: 28
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  on the one hand, it’s good that there is an armored capsule, and what level of protection, how many cc will stand under the wheel, will a simple trawl bomb kill the crew? ??
  
  RPG 7, still knocking out the latest tanks. So that...
  I don’t have to patrol the borders, it’s fine to crush smugglers there. Another trendy buggy.
Guru 5 June 2018 16: 23
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This is a plywood JewMobile. Galosha under the wheel probably that would not roll away
1. Aaron Zawi 5 June 2018 16: 35
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  Quote: Guru
  This is a plywood JewMobile. Galosha under the wheel probably that would not roll away
  
  Absolutely plywood.
  
  All variants of the machine use common subsystems and components, the power plant consists of a Cummins turbodiesel of 6,8 liter capacity and 360 horsepower connected to the Allison 6-gear automatic transmission. Machine speed reaches 120 km / h. It is possible to install a remotely controlled weapon module weighing up to 150 kg (it is possible to install a mortar, launchers for missiles, various reconnaissance equipment, including a telescopic mast with sensors, tactical radar, ground and air unmanned systems). The pickup variant accommodates three soldiers, the medical evacuation machine has places for transporting stretcher patients.
  High maneuverability is also achieved by high ground clearance (0,65 m), the vehicle overcomes vertical obstacles 0,5 m high and water obstacles up to 1 m deep. Ballistic protection level corresponds to 4, explosive protection 2А / 3В, the cabin is a transparent combat module with excellent visibility from the front and side . Stock of internal fuel 105 l. sufficient for the range of 700 km.
  The ergonomic design of the cabin is noteworthy, each of the crew members has a multi-function display, there are separate communication consoles and charging sockets for electronic devices. In front are the gunner, driver (center) and commander. The driver's central location is a unique feature of the Mantis.
  1. kotdavin4i 5 June 2018 19: 42
    
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    Aron - do not pay attention - began to notice on this site that many newcomers - "die" as the general epaulets want - and therefore write comments with the expectation of a large number of likes. Children are shorter. And as for the car, as they say in Odessa - We will see!
  2. viktor_ui 6 June 2018 07: 27
    
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    Aron Zawi ... this "guru" hardly understood what you wrote to him in response. Enlightened ... he’s such a tsuka - enlightened (ali envy hidden) A car is a CREDIT and should be big-eyed in a number of ranges.
Genry 5 June 2018 16: 26
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Is it an armored car?
Here they are more concerned with design, rather than functionality. For older boys?
1. Aaron Zawi 5 June 2018 16: 48
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  Quote: Genry
  Is it an armored car?
  Here they are more concerned with design, rather than functionality. For older boys?
  
  Well, the customer, if a professional, then requires a maximum of field tests for the purchased equipment.
2. helmi8 5 June 2018 20: 09
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  For older boys?
  
  A triple option for them the most ... And why else is such a machine?
A. Privalov 5 June 2018 16: 35
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Here's what else Israel will carry to Paris at Eurosatory 2018:
GEV67 5 June 2018 16: 36
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It looks cool, to the envy of some, who will now begin to fail.
Heterocapsa 5 June 2018 16: 40
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The development was paid by tourists from Russia. A joke, well done, but at first glance there is nothing special except ergonyms.
A. Privalov 5 June 2018 16: 43
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There is another option with a link here such pribludy:
FLOOD 5 June 2018 16: 45
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Quote: DEZINTO
on the one hand, it’s good that there is an armored capsule, and what level of protection, how many cc will stand under the wheel, will a simple trawl bomb kill the crew? ??

RPG 7, still knocking out the latest tanks. So that...
I don’t have to patrol the borders, it’s fine to crush smugglers there. Another trendy buggy.

Of course, I agree to the RPG, BUT ... given the difference in maneuverability of this pepelats and the tank, the RPG-shki has practically no chances.
1. Dezinto 5 June 2018 17: 08
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  given the difference in maneuverability of this pepelats and tank
  
  The same is true ... obviously a smart device. But if he stops on the spot and some one sneaks up .......... then the wheels will fly in different directions ....
  
  Well, that's the way. It is clear that this machine was not created for such skirmishes.
2. san4es 5 June 2018 18: 59
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  ... given the difference in maneuverability of this pepelats and tank, the RPG-shki has practically no chances.
FLOOD 5 June 2018 16: 47
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Quote: Aaron Zawi
Quote: Guru
This is a plywood JewMobile. Galosha under the wheel probably that would not roll away

Absolutely plywood.

All variants of the machine use common subsystems and components, the power plant consists of a Cummins turbodiesel of 6,8 liter capacity and 360 horsepower connected to the Allison 6-gear automatic transmission. Machine speed reaches 120 km / h. It is possible to install a remotely controlled weapon module weighing up to 150 kg (it is possible to install a mortar, launchers for missiles, various reconnaissance equipment, including a telescopic mast with sensors, tactical radar, ground and air unmanned systems). The pickup variant accommodates three soldiers, the medical evacuation machine has places for transporting stretcher patients.
High maneuverability is also achieved by high ground clearance (0,65 m), the vehicle overcomes vertical obstacles 0,5 m high and water obstacles up to 1 m deep. Ballistic protection level corresponds to 4, explosive protection 2А / 3В, the cabin is a transparent combat module with excellent visibility from the front and side . Stock of internal fuel 105 l. sufficient for the range of 700 km.
The ergonomic design of the cabin is noteworthy, each of the crew members has a multi-function display, there are separate communication consoles and charging sockets for electronic devices. In front are the gunner, driver (center) and commander. The driver's central location is a unique feature of the Mantis.

Man, Duc people with plywood brains are also not uncommon here, so who are you showing the Kremlin to ... well ... or are you proving?
FLOOD 5 June 2018 16: 53
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Quote: Genry
Is it an armored car?
Here they are more concerned with design, rather than functionality. For older boys?

Well, if you fasten Spike-LR or Spike-ER, then there will definitely not be any problems about the design
FLOOD 5 June 2018 16: 56
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Quote: A. Privalov
Here's what else Israel will carry to Paris at Eurosatory 2018:

Amazed at Israeli gunsmiths. They mold exactly what is needed and specifically for the need. Respect and good luck!
1. Maki Avellevich 5 June 2018 20: 24
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  Amazed at Israeli gunsmiths. They mold exactly what is needed and specifically for the need. Respect and good luck!
  
  with us, the one who sculpts not according to requirements quickly begins to look for a new job. selection sir.
  1. XXXIII 5 June 2018 22: 38
    
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    Quote: Maki Avellievich
    with us, the one who sculpts not according to requirements quickly begins to look for a new job. selection sir.
    For counterterrorism operations, the family is doing, in general, there will be application .... Now these machines are in demand, it is also not easy to create them, taking into account weight, armor, weapons and mobility, and protection is never superfluous ...
    The first-born of the Mantis family was a three-seater pickup truck. At the same time, Carmor indicates that On the basis of the same platform, a 5-seater armored vehicle can be assembled, as well as an 8-seater version, which will be produced in an armored or open body.
    
    Family Falcous
Squelcher 5 June 2018 17: 31
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Effectively (beautifully) is it not a fact that it is effective, possibly expensive, it is interesting that the shelling of the desert nomads by the old DShK will survive? And so it will be a beautiful chunky piece of scrap metal with three corpses.
1. Aaron Zawi 5 June 2018 17: 47
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  Effectively (beautifully) is it not a fact that it is effective, possibly expensive, it is interesting that the shelling of the desert nomads by the old DShK will survive? And so it will be a beautiful chunky piece of scrap metal with three corpses.
  
  It also says that the level of ballistic protection is 4.
  
  Level 4.
  ▪protivopulno protection: bullet B-32 cartridge 14,5 mm x 114 at a distance of 200 meters at a speed of meeting 911 m / s
  • angle (direction) of the bullet approach: 360 ° (round)
  ▪ anti-fragmentation protection: detonation of 155 mm high-explosive fragmentation projectile at a distance of 25 m; direction of approach of fragments: - 360 ° (all around); elevation angles 0 - 90 °.
  ▪ Mine protection: undermining a high-explosive anti-tank mine (charge weight 10 kg BB):
  • 4а - detonation of a mine from a pushing action when hitting with a wheel or caterpillar
  • 4b - detonation of a mine under the bottom.
  1. Squelcher 5 June 2018 18: 27
    
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    I realized that experts are good at using Wikipedia), would you at least check the BS -32 cartridge BS :)
    Believe written, especially if marketers who historically honesty are not very different and want to shove the goods - not a camphile.
    Even your answer has some kind of catch:) - B-32 is 12,7 x 108, 14.5 x108 is the minimum BS - 41. So which cartridge is held?
    1. Aaron Zawi 5 June 2018 18: 42
      
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      Quote: Squelcher
      I realized that experts are good at using Wikipedia), would you at least check the BS -32 cartridge BS :)
      Believe written, especially if marketers who historically honesty are not very different and want to shove the goods - not a camphile.
      Even your answer has some kind of catch:) - B-32 is 12,7 x 108, 14.5 x108 is the minimum BS - 41. So which cartridge is held?
      
      Should I come up with something? Believe written.
      1. Squelcher 5 June 2018 18: 48
        
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        You don’t have to come up with this
        the standard is easy to find and read; I speak the language of a possible adversary.
        Weapon: Heavy Machine Gun, 14.5 mm
        Ammunition: AP
        Distance: 200 m
        Angle: azimuth 360 °; elevation 0 °.
        But the test procedure is not specified in this standard :), but this is the most interesting :). There is such a thing as differentiated armor and holds papers and emulations, but in fact holes and corpses.
        
        Maki Avellevich 5 June 2018 20: 30
        
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        Quote: Squelcher
        But the test procedure is not specified in this standard :), but this is the most interesting :). There is such a thing as differentiated armor and holds papers and emulations, but in fact holes and corpses.
        
        This is a patrol car, there is armor, but the Faustpatron will probably make a hole.
        it’s better not to go to this mantis at UR.
        light armor on it in order to give a chance to the team will not go to the other world in the first seconds of the attack. that's all.
        
        Squelcher 6 June 2018 09: 21
        
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        I don’t argue, I went to the manufacturer’s website, it does not talk about protection class 4, the level of protection at the request of the customer. On the brochure and photographs, the thickness of the glasses obviously will not stand 14.5 (the thickness of the glass armor should be within 10 cm). Perhaps with the 4th class of protection, the total weight of the armor will ruin all the advantages - lightness and maneuverability.
        But the appearance is +5 with a plus.
    2. kotdavin4i 5 June 2018 19: 59
      
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      Maxim - You are partially right, and partially not - https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/14,5_%C3%97_114_%D0
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      this link - and in short, on July 16, 1941, a modified cartridge with an armor-piercing incendiary bullet with a steel red-hot core was adopted by the Red Army under the designation "14,5 mm B-32 cartridge"
      И
      On August 15, 1941, the second version of the cartridge, with an armor-piercing incendiary bullet with a hard-alloy metal-ceramic core, was adopted by the Red Army under the name "14,5-mm cartridge with a BS-41 bullet."
      but in general there is a table - and the name of the rounds is a lot.
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        The point is not in the cartridge, but in the standard “experts” like to “shine” with knowledge from Wikipedia, without particularly going into the essence of the issue. There is not a word in the standard about the B-32 cartridge.
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    ▪ Mine protection: undermining a high-explosive anti-tank mine (charge weight 10 kg BB):
    • 4a - blasting of a mine from a pressure action when hit by a wheel or a caterpillar
    • 4b - undermining a mine.
    it turns out that it is better protected than the BTR-80 and the BMP-2
Sergey ippon 5 June 2018 18: 19
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Somewhere I saw this ...- ahh! Films about the betman have seen enough)
1. Aaron Zawi 5 June 2018 18: 28
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  Quote: Sergey Ippon
  Somewhere I saw this ...- ahh! Films about the betman have seen enough)
  
  You will not believe how many fantastic ideas ahead of engineering.
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    plagiarism
APASUS 5 June 2018 19: 09
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It looks futuristic, but the design is not the main thing for a combat vehicle. It would be necessary to run it on the training ground, to blow it up, to fire, and only then it will be clear what kind of animal it is!
1. Aaron Zawi 5 June 2018 19: 10
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  It looks futuristic, but the design is not the main thing for a combat vehicle. It would be necessary to run it on the training ground, to blow it up, to fire, and only then it will be clear what kind of animal it is!
  
  It is indisputable.
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    and what is the ratio of price-quality in relation to existing analogues
Aaron Zawi 5 June 2018 19: 37
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and what is the ratio of price-quality in relation to existing analogues

That's what I don’t know, I don’t know.
tank66 5 June 2018 19: 51
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Oh, damn it. If you cut off everything military with a Bulgarian, Cummins is an awesome engine, because you weld an extra tank of 400 liters under diesel fuel, a Soviet-style titanium tube luggage carrier + a winch / dream like that / / Mikuni stove. And in the fall on a goose to Kazakhstan. Stop , you need a couple of Arrows with a rubber warhead to scam huntsmen on helicopters.
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An overly open suspension is doubtful, which can be damaged even by an explosion not under the car
1. Maki Avellevich 5 June 2018 20: 33
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  An overly open suspension is doubtful, which can be damaged even by an explosion not under the car
  
  you are right, also wipers have no protection
2. JonnyT 6 June 2018 14: 10
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  apparently this suspension design is made specifically to extinguish the energy of the explosion when undermining - the wheels tear off, but in the capsule everyone is alive.
  I doubt that with small arms (if not DShK of course) you can kill him with the front suspension, but you’re right anyway - the place is weak
Polkanov 5 June 2018 20: 06
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Quote: Aaron Zawi
Quote: Sergey Ippon
Somewhere I saw this ...- ahh! Films about the betman have seen enough)

You will not believe how many fantastic ideas ahead of engineering.

... your fantasies to help you. Single use technique, with the cost of a golden calf ...
Victorio 5 June 2018 20: 12
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something from a punisher
Xscorpion 5 June 2018 21: 49
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Quote: DEZINTO
on the one hand, it’s good that there is an armored capsule, and what level of protection, how many cc will stand under the wheel, will a simple trawl bomb kill the crew? ??

RPG 7, still knocking out the latest tanks. So that...
I don’t have to patrol the borders, it’s fine to crush smugglers there. Another trendy buggy.

Of course, I agree to the RPG, BUT ... given the difference in maneuverability of this pepelats and the tank, the RPG-shki has practically no chances.

90 percent of any armored vehicles are destroyed on the spot, or at the beginning of a maneuver. Fire is carried out on a moving vehicle only when it travels in the same direction, at the same speed. And in order to slow down a vehicle moving at high speed, mines are used either artificial or natural barriers, so that it slows down or changes direction, exposing vulnerable places to fire.
Quote: Aaron Zawi
Quote: Squelcher
Effectively (beautifully) is it not a fact that it is effective, possibly expensive, it is interesting that the shelling of the desert nomads by the old DShK will survive? And so it will be a beautiful chunky piece of scrap metal with three corpses.

It also says that the level of ballistic protection is 4.

Level 4.
▪protivopulno protection: bullet B-32 cartridge 14,5 mm x 114 at a distance of 200 meters at a speed of meeting 911 m / s
• angle (direction) of the bullet approach: 360 ° (round)
▪ anti-fragmentation protection: detonation of 155 mm high-explosive fragmentation projectile at a distance of 25 m; direction of approach of fragments: - 360 ° (all around); elevation angles 0 - 90 °.
▪ Mine protection: undermining a high-explosive anti-tank mine (charge weight 10 kg BB):
• 4а - detonation of a mine from a pushing action when hitting with a wheel or caterpillar
• 4b - detonation of a mine under the bottom.

Well, to put it mildly, these declared performance characteristics are overstated. Since they do not guarantee protection of 100 percent under such conditions, at best 85 percent of hits if they are kept, such characteristics are already accepted by default. And in fact, even take mine protection. Our BTR- 80, too, is guaranteed to keep a detonation under the wheel of any anti-tank mines, and can even continue to move. But in conditions of local conflicts, guerrilla warfare, the actions of the DRGs, often anti-tank mines are used only as detonators. Under them can be IEDs from a very large amount of explosives. In Chechnya, For example, under almost every regular mine there was a surprise. Sometimes from several 152-mm shells. Sometimes it’s just a bag of nitrate. But in terms of power it’s several tens of kilograms of explosives in TNT equivalent. This technique certainly looks beautiful, maybe very well protected and mobile, but any the goal can be destroyed. It all depends on the number of convolutions of the one on whom the task will be to destroy it.
Catfish 5 June 2018 22: 46
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I can’t pretend to say, but by design, it has something in common with our “Punisher” from the Office. And the rest ... but the devil knows him. Let them drive a couple of samples to the Donbass region, and then we'll see how long it takes and how their militias will shatter. Interesting, though sad.
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NETZAH NETZAH_2 6 June 2018 06: 04
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Purely to appreciate the ergonomics of Israeli technology.
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  Purely to appreciate the ergonomics of Israeli technology.
  
  Especially a freshener !!! True, a small violation - the electrical tape should be Blue!
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2. Victorio 6 June 2018 22: 50
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  having such wars with the Arabs, it was possible to establish a bed there. however, there are igil fighters, against them your ergonomics will recede into the background.
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I wonder what real security class the machine provides, including from mines.
I wonder how it keeps shelling with armor-piercing bullets 7.62 on board at close range.
Compasure 6 June 2018 18: 33
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you are right, also wipers have no protection

Well, yes, apparently they booked a cart and said that it was an armored car