The most expensive helmets. Part nine. Germaundby: the most famous helmet of the Vikings

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Among the helmets discussed in the series of publications “The Most Expensive Helmets”, until now there were no Viking helmets. Although they are a real rarity, and therefore, of course, they are very expensive. Moreover, the plural is completely inappropriate here. They would not stand, but they should, because the helmet, which belonged to the Viking exactly, is known for only one. And although archaeologists are familiar with the details from other Viking helmets, only one single helmet was found in a condition sufficient for its reconstruction and display. Therefore, although there are no gems on it, and it looks “not very” this is the real national treasure of Sweden and it costs, of course, very expensive. Only now it never occurs to anyone to sell and buy it. Why was it only now about the Viking helmet? And this is why: a book is planned, the material for which has been collected for many years and which has already reached the stage of direct writing. But since you never know when you will finish it and when it will be published, it makes sense to introduce the VO visitors to the content in advance, that is, in separate articles. And so it happened that according to the “Helm of Germundby” there is everything today. And if so, then why postpone the publication of this material? In the future, articles will be published on the origin of the peoples of Scandinavia, and will be told about "Vikings and ships" (well, as without it ?!), and much more is given about the historiography of this most interesting question. stories and culture, but for now all of these materials will be laid with a story about the most ordinary helmet ...

The most expensive helmets. Part nine. Germaundby: the most famous helmet of the Vikings

Helmet from Germundby. (Historical Museum of Norway in Oslo)



In one of the previous materials of this series it was already told about "helmets with horns" and, in particular, it was noted that the Vikings had no horns on their helmets! But what was, how exactly they looked to judge this until a certain time, scientists could only on the basis of indirect facts, finds that could be attributed precisely to the Viking era in their hands they did not have.


Helmet from Germundby. As you can see, the entire left half of the helmet is almost completely absent. (Historical Museum of Norway in Oslo)

That changed 30 March 1943, when Oldsaksamling University in Oslo received information that a farmer named Lars Germundby found and excavated a huge mound on his land near his Gyurmundby farm, in Buskerud County, in southern Norway. Experienced archaeologists went there and actually found a large mound of 25 meters in length, 1,8 meters in height, and 8 meters in width in its widest place. Most of the embankment was formed by stony soil; however, the inner part of the middle part was lined with large stones. Some stones were even found on the surface of the mound. In the middle part, about one meter below the surface and under the stone layer, the first grave was discovered, known as Germundby I. In 8 meters from Germundby I, a second grave was found in the western part of the embankment, Germundby II. Both graves were the burials of the second half of the 10th century and then described in detail by Sigurd Grieg in the monograph 1947 of the year.


The museum building where this helmet is exhibited.

Several dozens of artifacts were found in the tomb of Gjarmundby I, among which the most interesting were unique items such as chain mail and a helmet that later became very famous and are mentioned or depicted in almost every relevant publication on the Vikings.


Old helmet reconstruction by Erling Ferstad, 1947 (monograph by Sigurd Grieg “Gjermundbufunnet”)

Found helmet is often called the only full Viking helmet, a famous scientist. But this is precisely the inaccuracy that somewhat spoils the whole impression of this unique find. First, the helmet is not complete. When he was found, it consisted of approximately 10 metal fragments in a rather pitiful state, that is, about one third of the entire helmet. Secondly, there are at least five other published fragments of helmets found in Scandinavia and areas with strong Scandinavian influence. There is a fragment of a helmet, found in Thiel, in Denmark, which are very close to the helmet from Germundby. In addition, in the process of its restoration, the shape of the original helmet was not fully reconstructed. That is, according to Norwegian archaeologists, the museum staff involved in its restoration, collected it is not entirely correct. And since the discovery of a millennial prescription is a very fragile object, then they did not redo the already collected later. That is, the helmet presented today to the general public is not entirely correct. But what does “not quite” mean? “Not really” is how much? But this is something no one knows. That is, it is true in general terms, but there may be some inaccuracies in the details. In any case, we can definitely say that the helmet from Germundby is the only helmet of the Viking era that we can look at today and whose design is completely known to us.


The helmet mask due to the thickness of the metal from which it was made is best preserved. (Historical Museum of Norway in Oslo)

It is also believed that this helmet originated from Wendel helmets and is the dominant type of Scandinavian helmets up to 1000 AD, when conical helmets with nose plates became popular.


Helmet, chainmail and other finds from the burial in the Germundby mound in the exposition of the Historical Museum of Norway in Oslo.

So, what is this creation of the ancient Scandinavian blacksmiths? This product is oval, the same as a normal human head. The size of the oval is 16,5 by 20 centimeters. The helmet from Gjermundby was forged from iron with a thickness of one and a half millimeters, but on a half mask the thickness of the metal reaches three millimeters, which is not surprising, because tank frontal armor is thicker than in other places. The design options for the helmet today are as follows: the segments that form its dome are riveted under the helmet frame. Option: segments riveted over its frame. In this case, the purpose of the convex stiffening rib on the helmet rim becomes clear - this is an additional reinforcement of the segment fasteners. But which one is the most correct? Unknown!


Very good reconstruction of the “Helm of Grjomundby” from the movie “And trees grow on stones”. In fact, today it is one of the best movies about Vikings.

The half mask, preserved because of its thickness, was best of all, was riveted on the helmet with the help of five rivets, and decorated on the outside with some kind of colored, and perhaps even precious metal. Since this is the only helmet with a half mask from the Viking Age, all other "reconstructions", however plausible they would look, will be just a creative invention of their authors, no more. Interestingly, the half mask only reaches the upper lip of the warrior and leaves his mouth and teeth open. Nika no cheek and neck protection on the helmet. It is known that in the Middle Ages, for this purpose, a chain mail cloth — a barmitsa — was hung from helmets, which was later replaced by lamellar headlaps and a nazatelnik. Moreover, the cheek-pieces were also known on Wendel helmets, but in this case there were no traces of the chain mail marigold on the Viking helmet from Germundby. Found only two little rings at a distance of 3 centimeters from each other on its rim and that's it! No more traces of attachment for the remaining rings on the helmet could be found. Not a single hole or sleeve suitable for fastening a barmitsa! There is, however, the assumption that leather rings were attached to these rings, which, naturally, were not preserved. But this and all that can still be assumed by looking at the helmet from Germundby in the exposition of the Historical Museum of Norway in Oslo.


"Fragment of Tiele." (Historical Museum of Norway in Oslo)

And now about a fragment of a helmet, which was found in Thiel, in Denmark, which is very close to the helmet from Germundby. It is called “a fragment from Tjele”, and it was found not in the ground, not in some ancient grave, but ... in the collection of tools of the 10th century blacksmith in 1850, but its meaning was not understood until 1984. He was found by a farmer who planted seedlings in Tjela-Manor, between Viborg and Randers, and the owner of the estate sent him to the National Museum of Denmark, where he is today. In 1858, blacksmith's tools were collected — two anvils, five hammers, three pairs of tongs, two plate shears, two files, a chisel, two sprues, two foundry buckets, a grinding stone, a set of weights with ten weights, five sickles, a key, three iron nails, an ax, a tip, a bronze wire, fragments from bronze and iron, and also the remains of a casket, but this find was attributed as a pad on a saddle. For about 130 years, this detail, despite being exposed to the public, did not attract attention until finally it was recognized by Elizabeth Manksgaard, assistant guardian in the Danish History Department, as a remnant of a helmet. Describing the "find" in 1984, she noted that "the best finds are often made not in the field, but in museums."


The leader of the Danes from the movie “Trees grow on stones” is also wearing a similar helmet, but the costume designer is obviously a little overdone. But on his brother's head there is something fantastic at all, although it is quite possible - a leather hat with metal discs sewn on it. It is possible construction in the era of a shortage of craftsmen and metal, why not?

Obviously, although this fragment today contains only “eyebrows and a nose from a helmet,” it probably once was part of a face mask, similar to the one we see on the helmet from Germundby, however, the rest of the helmet could look like unknown The fragment contains no traces of chain mail. However, eight fragments of “thin iron strips about 1 cm wide and various lengths” were found, which may have been originally used to join the plates of this helmet. But that is all that scientists can say for today based on these findings!


But ... this helmet did not help its owner! That's how Sigurd cut him with the sword!

P.S. Well, the image of a bearded Viking in a helmet with horns entrenched in the public consciousness after Swedish artist August Malström illustrated the poem “Frythof Saga” by Esaias Tegner in 1820, and later, in 1876, his colleague Karl Doppler used these drawings to create costumes for Richard Wagner’s opera The Ring of the Nibelung.
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  1. +3
    6 June 2018 06: 03
    "... and save us from the fury of the Normans." Thank you, Vyacheslav Olegovich! What can you say about the Vikings series for authenticity?
    1. +4
      6 June 2018 06: 16
      I don’t look, so I can’t say anything!
      1. +3
        6 June 2018 10: 40
        Did the Vikings have leather armor?
        1. +3
          6 June 2018 17: 34
          There were quilted reindeer skins ...
          1. Cat
            +2
            6 June 2018 19: 34
            In the Frankish and Saxon chronicles, the Vikings were often called "iron people." Because of this, a number of scientists adhere to the version that most of the Scandinavians put on chain mail.
            1. +1
              6 June 2018 21: 05
              And the fact that in modern films they wear leather suits does not correspond to historical reality.
              1. Cat
                +2
                6 June 2018 21: 18
                The boiled leather armor was much more accessible than the simple chain mail. So believe the chroniclers or not your business.
                Although the latter were still those storytellers, only what horned and winged helmets are worth! hi
                1. +1
                  7 June 2018 00: 13
                  Yesterday, 22: 18
                  Boiled leather armor was much more accessible than the simplest chain mail. So believe the chroniclers or not your case

                  ,,, hi Yeah, and one helmet was found and they said that the Vikings did go ,,, believe it or not recourse
  2. +2
    6 June 2018 06: 31
    I don’t believe in these helmets. Found this helmet in the mound, so a funeral grave? For eminent? After all, they dug up a ship from Gotland, but it turned out to be from oak. Type a pleasure yacht.
    1. +3
      6 June 2018 08: 04
      And what is the incomprehension of something?
      1. +2
        6 June 2018 08: 36
        Quote: 3x3zsave
        And what is the incomprehension of something?

        In burial graves, they often laid down how to say things that were used little in everyday life. So I have doubts that this helmet is typical. Like that ship. After all, the Vikings from Yasen built, and not from Oak.
        1. +8
          6 June 2018 08: 52
          Ahh, here you are! But does the article say that it is typical? In the preface, he is called "ordinary." In fact, in comparison with other helmets described in the cycle - an ordinary infantry helmet. Just the inscription bleach on the inside of the body is not enough.
          1. +2
            6 June 2018 08: 59
            Nah ... Vyacheslav Olegovich writes about "the most ordinary helmet." But when the reenactors did not believe in the side wheel of a Viking rook, they set up a modern one. Oh well, these are my cockroaches, do not pay much attention. drinks
            1. +5
              6 June 2018 09: 06
              I am in the know, I remember that you honor Odin.
              1. +2
                6 June 2018 13: 59
                Quote: 3x3zsave
                I am in the know, I remember that you honor Odin.

                I believe that all gods deserve respect. Be even One, even Shiva, even Ra Egyptian. wink Well, something like this. drinks
                1. Cat
                  +5
                  6 June 2018 19: 49
                  Regarding the exclusivity of the things that were used in the funeral rites of the Scandinavians, there is a lot of fog!
                  An example of their saga in which their shields are glorified is they willow or fake! And the only copy that, by the way, was found in Gnezdovo on the territory of Russia (so it is not known exactly whose Slavic, Baltic or Varangian) is assembled from pine boards. So I am inclined to the version of Victor - an ordinary helmet! Although given the cost of it in the Middle Ages - five cows, at least if not more - a fortune.
                  Ps In our native epics heroes wear oak shields. Hmm, comparing with a linden shield? In this case, I trust Irish sagas more. The linden is lighter, more viscous, does not prick along. Oak - everything is fine, but it weighs - dear mother!
                  Regards Kotische!
                  1. +1
                    6 June 2018 20: 13
                    Quote: Kotischa
                    Slavic, Baltic or Varangian

                    So Viking is not a nationality. This is a profession rather, like a pirate. So there could be any shield. IMHO, of course.
                    1. Cat
                      +3
                      6 June 2018 21: 29
                      Quote: mordvin xnumx

                      So Viking is not a nationality. This is a profession rather, like a pirate. So there could be any shield. IMHO, of course.

                      With the nationality of the Vikings, the Vikings are very tight. In pre-revolutionary Russian literature there is an interesting term "Northmans", yes not Normans, but Northmans!
                      Today there are so many versions of the origin of the Varangians that you can choose any taste and tear one place for your own. For example, the Black Sea origin of the Varangians and Russia by Yegorov or the Herbeborean origin by other authors.
                      So the choice is yours. Although there are still more mystical subjects of law in the Russian truth — the kobyaks !!! Who can they clearly not answer for five centuries!
                      Sincerely, Kitty!
                  2. +1
                    6 June 2018 20: 18
                    Sword Linden is the name of the shield from the Ingling Saga.
                    1. +2
                      6 June 2018 22: 19
                      Quote: Kotischa
                      Ps In our native epics heroes wear oak shields. Hmm, comparing with a linden shield? In this case, I trust Irish sagas more. The linden is lighter, more viscous, does not prick along. Oak - everything is fine, but it weighs - dear mother!

                      On the island of Björkö (Birka), many Viking shields (almost a hundred) have been excavated. They were made of fir, maple and yew.
                      And about oak shields --- bog oak was known in Russia and differs from hard oak in the best hardness. It can be used in shields as elements in combination with ordinary wood, it is already necessary for experts-reconstructors to try it out ....)
                2. +3
                  6 June 2018 21: 52
                  God is one, the providers are different.
  3. +4
    6 June 2018 08: 22

    Old tradition. When the sun was a god
    2003
    Poland
    1. +4
      6 June 2018 08: 29
      Damn, but I have not seen this!
      1. +4
        6 June 2018 08: 44
        Not long and see! They filmed there -
        Daniel Olbrychsky, Michal Zhebrovsky, Bogdan Stupka, Malgozhata Forenyak, Marina Alexandrova, Jerzy Trela, Eva Vishnevskaya, Anna Dymna, Katarzyna Buyakevich, Ryszard Filipsky, Andrzej Krukovsky, Maciej Kozlowski, Andrzej Pechinsky, Dariusz Yuzyshin, Viktor Zborowski, Jan Prokhyra, Kristina Feldman, Maria Niklinskaya, Adam Grachik, Sylvester Bazardzavdzie Mardziewicz Bazardzavdzie Mardzewiez , Jerzy Braszka, Stefan Schmidt, Tomasz Zaliwski, Ryszard Ronchevsky, Alexander Skovronsky, Zdzislaw Szymborska, Yang Yang Tomaszewski, Michal Sechkovsky, Ryszard Jablonski, Grzegorz Emanuel, Maciej Zakostselny, Jerzy Duca, Andrzej Gronzevich, Mariusz Yakushi, Eric Lubos, Wojciech Tomasz Bernavsky, Mechislav Yanovsky, Michal Khorosinsky, Mariusz Drenzhek, Marek Tsikhutsky, Edward Wazheha, Janusz Sadowski, Marcel Novek, Marcin Mrochek, Krzysztof Zazhecki
        1. +2
          6 June 2018 14: 38
          why did not Zhebrovsky (The Witcher) be bold? Unworthy? wink To Olbrykhsky and Stupka, of course, is not enough, but still ...
          1. +2
            6 June 2018 16: 04
            I'm not good at actors! He singled out those whom he remembered!
    2. +3
      6 June 2018 19: 21
      Quote: hohol95
      Old tradition. When the sun was a god
      2003
      Poland

      These are cooler laughing
    3. +1
      6 June 2018 21: 15
      Valhalla: Ascension is a good movie.
      1. +2
        6 June 2018 21: 44
        Birkebeiners
        Norway
        2016
        1204 year. Norway. The country is torn by the confrontation of the fierce civil war between the legitimate King Haakon the third and the Baglernov army, which was supported by the Danish government. The enemy is simply not yet aware that the ruler has an illegitimate heir, and therefore his death does not matter much. Loyal to the monarch, the Birkebeiner family considers the prince to be his new king and is trying to protect the child at all costs.
        1. +1
          7 June 2018 00: 28
          Quote: hohol95
          1204 year. Norway. The country is torn by the confrontations of the fierce civil war between the rightful King Haakon the Third and the Baglernov’s army that rebelled against him,

          Harald Shaggy is not on them. laughing
  4. 0
    6 June 2018 09: 39
    There is an even more fun thing - their chain mail is imported, because in Europe there were plate armor at that time. As far as I know, chain mail was already done in Russia. And it is not known what else - reliable chronicles no longer exist
    1. +1
      6 June 2018 20: 15
      In the Wendelian era, chain mail was in the West!
  5. +6
    6 June 2018 12: 46
    Author, as always, thanks.
    It is surprising that the helmets of the Wendel period are not found as an example more than the Viking helmets. I sometimes get the impression that the Wendel period is understood by us somehow incorrectly. Who would have bothered from colleagues to write a review article on this era ... According to my feelings, of which I doubt loyalty, it was a period of relative silence, the flourishing of crafts, the last, so to speak, sunset beam of antiquity in northern Europe before jumping into the dark ages. While the rest of Europe shook under the hooves of the barbarians from the east, the Meverings re-conquered Gaul, the Arabs stormed Byzantium, the Slavs made their way to the shores of the Baltic and Adriatic, in modern Sweden they lived quietly (or not) certain people, riveted helmets, swords and children, and who they were and what else they did somehow and incomprehensibly.
    Vyacheslav Olegovich, I want to reproach you, you know little materiel. smile
    But ... this helmet did not help its owner! That's how Sigurd cut him with the sword!

    Atsur, Atli’s brother, Einar’s son Hring’s murderer, was killed by Thorir, Hring’s brother and Einar’s uncle, and not by the berserker Sigurd. smile The film "Trees grow on stones" is almost a bible for those who are fond of the reconstruction of the Viking era, so if someone decided to dive into this topic, the names and destinies of the heroes need to know how we know Solomon and David with all his gentleness. smile
    By the way, the film is really very good, who has not watched - I recommend.
    1. +4
      6 June 2018 14: 36
      Quote: Trilobite Master
      the film is really very good, who did not watch it - I recommend it.

      the main drawback of the film is the size! Indeed, a quarter came from Vronsky’s book on his strength (and this is from the part of the book that was written at that time - from Ladoga to Constantinople; the full version was published only in 2006!). However, to promote personalities such as St. Andrew hi , in those years atheistic censorship am would not allow it!
      And most importantly, the historical references in the film have disappeared! am There are no hints that Harald is not anyone, but the future Horfager, the first king of all Norway, there is no Haskuld and Thür (Askold and Dir), Helga (in the version of Vronsky, the future brother of Harald is the future Prophetic Oleg)
      1. +5
        6 June 2018 17: 11
        Quote: Weyland
        The main drawback of the film is the size!

        I read "Kuksha-Varanzh prisoner". In my opinion, the book from the series "For the smallest," written in a very childish way.
        But the filmmakers really tried to recreate the atmosphere of the early Middle Ages - in the scenery, costumes, actions of the heroes. Although, in my opinion, the episode with the arson of the Danish ship Kuksha does not stand up to criticism, and Tori is somehow too simple-minded, kind and noble, the rest is quite historical and authentic. In one frame of this film - any! - stories more than in "Viking", "Kolovrata" and "Skiff" together, even if they are not folded, but multiplied.
        To summarize - a children's book, and the film is an adult. There is no need to compare them - the authors set completely different tasks.
        1. +3
          6 June 2018 17: 24
          I fully agree with you.
        2. +3
          6 June 2018 17: 34
          Quote: Trilobite Master
          I read "Kuksha-Varanzh prisoner". In my opinion, the book from the series "For the smallest," written in a very childish way.

          You read only the 1st part. Vronsky wrote very interestingly - like a vision through the eyes of Kuksha. Where he is 12 years old - it is written in a childish way, and as he grows up, the material becomes less childish, especially the last part, published in 2006, where he is already 18. By the way, the film does not reveal why the Vikings brought Kuksha with them - they were valued above all not strength, dexterity and martial art, namely luck, and it was really natural for them to take in the crew even such a kid without any combat experience, if he was awesomely lucky - because his luck can save the whole gang on occasion!
          1. +3
            6 June 2018 18: 31
            Quote: Weyland
            You read only the 1 part.

            Probably so, since the case was clearly before 2006 d. Somehow the first part had pushed me to read the rest. Especially, against the background of Dmitry Balashov, whom I in this period (the end of 90-x, the beginning of 2000-x) carried away. smile
          2. +8
            6 June 2018 18: 52
            why the Vikings brought Kuksha with them - they valued above all not strength, dexterity and martial art, namely luck, and it was really natural for them to take in the crew even such a kid without any combat experience, if he was awesomely lucky - because . his luck can save the whole gang on occasion!

            centuries have passed, and people, especially heroic professions, have remained superstitious. hi In 1916, the Germans tried to launch the auxiliary cruiser "Wolf" into the sea, but the ship landed on the chalk at the mouth of the Elbe. Therefore, under the same name, another raider then went to sea. And with another captain, because the first was immediately removed with the wording "unlucky"! request I could be wrong, but read it somewhere! what
            1. +1
              6 June 2018 20: 07
              Quote: Mikado
              and people, especially heroic professions, remained superstitious.

              Nicholas, as I read an interior view with one digger. He told such a story. They found, as it were, two black diggers, an SS dagger engraved with ancient runes. So then they killed one with an ax, threw another mine into the fire, and blew it up. This type of dagger was inherited by that gold digger. And trouble started in him. Grandfather came to him in a dream, and said: "Give me my knife." He was brought to that by the fact that he dug this dagger under a tree. The tree is withered. belay I dug a dagger, and presented it to Malakhov in the program "Let them talk." Malakhov fell ill after this. sad Cheshotkoy, or something, I don’t remember. Well, the fact is well known. Malakhov got rid of this dagger later. He says that he does not remember where he was doing it. request
              1. +6
                6 June 2018 20: 34
                Quote: Mordvin 3
                He says he does not remember where he does his affairs.

                I would give House-2 ... laughing
              2. +4
                6 June 2018 21: 28
                Vladimir, this is called a "curse." hi It seems that the first owner of the dagger was still that "humanist", the SS, after all .... negative and on the other hand - here it is, the "reward" for a bad craft. hi
                1. +1
                  7 June 2018 00: 33
                  Quote: Mikado
                  It seems that the first owner of the dagger was still that "humanist", the SS, after all ....

                  There the ancient Germanic runes were on it. So after that do not believe in mysticism. request By the way, this grandfather in a dream dug a dagger from under a tree, but for some reason it didn’t work.
                  1. +4
                    7 June 2018 00: 49
                    I don’t really believe in runes (Vladimir, no offense - I just didn’t meet! request ) But cursing and spoiling is easy. A bunch of examples, including myself! hi drinks
                    1. +1
                      7 June 2018 01: 00
                      Quote: Mikado
                      I don’t really believe in runes (Vladimir, no offense - I just didn’t meet! request ) But cursing and spoiling is easy. A bunch of examples, including myself! hi drinks

                      There was a drawing, but I forgot. An article in the Komsomol was a long time ago. And this gold digger was shown several times in the box. He found a treasure for arguing. In the mansion of the architect Khrenov. He’s somehow sick. As I found silver, so in his eyes the devil knows what was happening. request In general, he earns a living by treasures. Everyone goes to sea to swim, and he crawls along with the metal detector on the bottom. Freak, in general.
                      1. +5
                        7 June 2018 01: 15
                        Everyone goes to sea to swim, and he crawls along with the metal detector on the bottom.

                        and these are fans. Once you find something, you won’t get rid of it like a love of gambling. what I had a familiar general director. In his youth he fought in Afghanistan, was wounded. And in Ferghana, by chance, I found a rare coin with a portrait of some shah, who ruled the whole year. Then, already under "democracy", he sold it to some collector. Nevertheless, he participated tightly in the search squads, and even the neighborhood of St. Petersburg with a metal detector often passed on the weekend. He died two and a half years ago. recourse Cancer of the root of the tongue, no one expected .... And the man was - charming! Everything rested on his charisma; You see, Vladimir, it’s nice to work with such people! hi it’s a pity that such people leave ... Bright memory to you, Sergey Yuryevich, and rest in peace! In many ways, he taught me how to work, because after leaving the police school, I partly learned new things by myself, with the help of good people .. Interaction with him gave me invaluable EXPERIENCEhi
            2. +2
              7 June 2018 10: 21
              Quote: Mikado
              the first was immediately removed with the wording "unlucky"! I could be wrong, but I read it somewhere

              I don’t know how the Germans - EMNIP, Sobolev in one of the "sea stories" mentions that in the English fleet in the personal files of the officer in those years there was an obligatory column "level of luck" (and I won’t be surprised if it is still preserved: "England - country of traditions! ")
              1. +3
                7 June 2018 10: 40
                I won’t be surprised either. Yes, and our sailors, go and take too much. The astronauts have their own rituals.
              2. +1
                7 June 2018 11: 46
                In the movie Run, remember: "General Black: lucky in the cards" wink
                ----
                "... mandatory column" level of luck "" ////
                Nobody has yet canceled guardian angels. smile
  6. +3
    6 June 2018 13: 56
    “Several dozens of artifacts were found in the grave of Gjermundby I, among which the most interesting were unique items such as chain mail and a helmet, which later became very famous and are mentioned or depicted in almost every relevant Viking publication.”
    I will allow myself to describe in more detail the items that the deceased Viking was supplied with in a long and dangerous path in the underworld. These are battle axes, a sword, two spears, eight arrows, four shields, chain mail and our helmet. From spears and arrows only tips remained.

    (http://ludota.ru/germundbyu-shlem-vikinga.html)
    1. +3
      6 June 2018 14: 02
      “The helmet design options for today are: the segments that make up its dome are riveted under the helmet frame. Option: the segments are riveted on top of the helmet frame.”
      In practice, it looks something like this.

      (http://ludota.ru/germundbyu-shlem-vikinga.html)
    2. +2
      6 June 2018 14: 48
      Quote: Curious
      I will allow myself to describe in more detail the items that the deceased Viking was supplied with in a long and dangerous path in the underworld. These are battle axes, a sword, two spears, eight arrows, four shields, chain mail and our helmet. From spears and arrows only tips remained.

      That's how our descendants somehow dig out the coffins of our bandyuk and find the standard: TT, Sony video recorder, Sharp music center, a rubber woman, and a bottle of whiskey. Will we judge by them, or how? recourse
      1. +3
        6 June 2018 15: 32
        Quote: Mordvin 3
        Will we judge by them, or how?

        And what to do ... One hundred years ago, archaeologists called the Carolingian sword "Viking" - because 80% of the findings came from Scandinavia. And only after the appearance of "Anteyn's reagent", which allowed to identify the inscriptions and stigmas on the blades, they found where they were produced. But the answer is simple: the Franks, as Christians, did not put swords in the graves - unlike the pagan Scandinavians laughing
      2. +3
        6 June 2018 16: 27
        Well, they dig out, after which they will report that the next grave of a bandyuk has been dug up. By the way, you forgot to put the “Mabila” and drill four holes in the lid.
        1. +4
          6 June 2018 16: 45
          Better dig out the gypsy BARONS! They have computers there with printers laughing You just have to go through a couple of meters of concrete first and open the reinforced concrete slabs of the "baron's tombs"!
        2. +4
          6 June 2018 17: 00
          Quote: Curious
          By the way, you forgot to put the “Mabila”

          Right! Matarolla! laughing And the chain is golden to the navel. fellow
  7. +3
    6 June 2018 17: 21
    Quote: Trilobite Master
    In general, I sometimes get the impression that the Wendel period is somehow misunderstood by us. Who would be bothered to write a review article on this era

    It will be about this ... It is written ... And yes, of course, not Sigurd. I'm used to hoping for my memory, and in 63 she is already starting to fail.
    1. +5
      6 June 2018 19: 54
      Quote: kalibr
      And yes, of course, not Sigurd.

      Memory is a strange thing. After watching this film, the boys and I, in 85-86, I don’t remember, in the summer they organized sea battles on rafts on the lake ... At first, the procedure was obligatory - a dialogue from the movie "I am Toreer, with me Einar, the son of my late brother Hringa "" I am Utley, my brother Atsur is with me. You have a choice - go ashore and leave us the prey or die. " "Only given are in such a hurry for someone else's booty!" Something like this. Then raft jumps on the raft, scuffling and in the end everything is in the water. smile It was fun...
  8. +2
    6 June 2018 17: 27
    Quote: Mordvin 3
    After all, the Vikings from Yasen built, and not from Oak.

    Why from ash? Finds do not talk about this. What does it say?
    1. +2
      6 June 2018 18: 18
      Quote: kalibr
      Why from ash? Finds do not talk about this. What does it say?

      Yes, it seems like they were called "Ashen People." And oak is a solid tree, it’s bad to build ships out of it. But from ash - it fits. Plastic tree.
      1. +4
        6 June 2018 18: 44
        Quote: Mordvin 3
        Yes, sort of like they were called "Ashen People."

        I will make peace between you, even though you have not quarreled smile
        Personally, I read somewhere (I don’t remember where, but I remember that it seemed to me that the source was trustworthy) that the draccars were built from various kinds of wood. The keel and frames are made of oak, it is heavy, solid and reliable, it rots badly. Cladding, other hardwoods that are lighter - ash, maple (where did they take them in Sweden-Norway?), Deck and masts of pine or spruce.
        So everyone is right. smile
        1. +2
          6 June 2018 18: 54
          Quote: Trilobite Master
          Personally, I read somewhere (I don’t remember where, but I remember that it seemed to me that the source was trustworthy) that the draccars were built from various kinds of wood. The keel and frames are made of oak, it is heavy, solid and reliable, it rots badly. Cladding, other hardwoods that are lighter - ash, maple (where did they take them in Sweden-Norway?), Deck and masts of pine or spruce.

          Why am I talking? There is a very good work Semenova: "I will tell you about the Vikings." Very serious work in my opinion.
          1. +3
            6 June 2018 19: 43
            Quote: Mordvin 3
            There is a very good work Semenova

            If you mean Maria Semenova, then, nevertheless, she is more a writer than a historian. I pay tribute to her talent and erudition, passion for the question, but still she is a writer-writer, for her poetics, richness, brightness of the characters, how not to twist, in the first place. He himself read her works avidly, even when the story "Vedun" was published in the magazine "Sparkle", and "Nurmanskie guests" - in the "Bonfire". She idealizes the Vikings, loves them very much. For example, I’m closer to the way Valentin Ivanov describes them in his book "The Tale of Ancient Years" - cold-blooded and calculating warriors-merchants, cruel and unprincipled, and not noble warriors-knights, for whom honor and truth are above life.
            1. +2
              6 June 2018 19: 48
              Quote: Trilobite Master
              but still she’s a writer,

              Well yes. But is Shpakovsky not a writer / writer?
              Quote: Trilobite Master
              Valentin Ivanov in the book "Tales of Ancient Years"

              Do not read. Thanks, be sure to read. I’m still the type until I read the book for the night and fall asleep. hi
              1. +3
                6 June 2018 20: 20
                Three main species of trees during the construction of ships at the Vikings: oak, ash, pine.
                Joachim von Firks "Viking ships". Publishing house "Shipbuilding". Leningrad, 1982. Translation from German by A. A. Cheban, reviewer Doctor of Historical Sciences M. A. Kogan.
                If you speak English, then the book of the Norwegian archaeologist Anton Wilhelm Bregger The Viking ships, their ancestry and evolution, Oslo: Dreyer. 1951
                or
                AW Brøgger and H. Shetelig, The Viking Ships. Twayne Publishers, New York, 1971, and C. Hurst, London, 1971.
                1. +2
                  6 June 2018 20: 24
                  Quote: Curious
                  If you speak English,

                  Unfortunately no.
                  Quote: Curious
                  Joachim von Firks "Viking ships". Publishing house "Shipbuilding". Leningrad, 1982.

                  Heh, I read "SOS. The history of shipwrecks." So there even Noah’s ark is described. wink
                  1. +3
                    6 June 2018 21: 15
                    Why then do you ask questions if you are sure in advance that you know the answers best of all and you are the smartest? And why, in such a situation, are you rubbing your skin at HE, and not sitting at the RAS and reforming historical science in accordance with your progressive views? And bookshelves from your labors do not break. Dee and the Makaryevsky Prize were not presented to you. Or have we missed?
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                      7 June 2018 00: 41
                      Quote: Curious
                      Why then do you ask questions if you are sure in advance that you know the answers best of all and you are the smartest?

                      I don’t know anything. Every time I learn something new for myself. Sorry if touched by something. hi
                2. +2
                  7 June 2018 07: 03
                  Well, the largest ship was unearthed after, in 1996, in Roskilde!
              2. +2
                6 June 2018 21: 22
                Read Heinlein, "The Road of Valor and Glory." There is an episode where a similar disease is described by the main character.
          2. Cat
            +7
            6 June 2018 20: 06
            Supplement, the body was made of spruce, a transverse set of fir. Although occasionally used to sheathe pine casing. In the Irish sagas, such ships were called "red"! Naturally, black dacras were lined with oak. But apparently only the real rich could allow it
            Regarding the work of Semenova - in Scandinavia, oak groves, too, did not heap. So in an ordinary ship, a power longitudinal set was made of larch. hi
        2. +3
          6 June 2018 19: 47
          Quote: Trilobite Master
          Quote: Mordvin 3
          Yes, sort of like they were called "Ashen People."

          I will make peace between you, even though you have not quarreled smile
          Personally, I read somewhere (I don’t remember where, but I remember that it seemed to me that the source was trustworthy) that the draccars were built from various kinds of wood. The keel and frames are made of oak, it is heavy, solid and reliable, it rots badly. Cladding, other hardwoods that are lighter - ash, maple (where did they take them in Sweden-Norway?), Deck and masts of pine or spruce.
          So everyone is right. smile

          More than likely! In Russia, even banal cart wheels were made of three different types of wood - one for the hub, the other for the spokes, the third for the rim!
      2. +3
        6 June 2018 19: 45
        Quote: Mordvin 3
        oak - solid wood, it’s bad to build ships out of it. But from ash - it fits. Plastic tree.

        ash good as if not harder than oak, and noticeably stronger! laughing And most importantly - unlike oak, you’ll split horseradish because the fibers are intertwined! It was from the ash in Europe that they made a pole of copies - it is generally unrealistic to break them (in the sense, into separate halves - they remain “connected” by the soaked area)
      3. +5
        6 June 2018 20: 09
        However, ships found at the bottom of the sea in the area of ​​Skuldelev and exhibited at the museum in Roskilde are made of oak. And bear the traces of exploitation. Usually made of ash poles of spears!
        1. +1
          6 June 2018 20: 20
          Quote: kalibr
          However, ships found at the bottom of the sea in the area of ​​Skuldelev and exhibited at the museum in Roskilde are made of oak. And bear the traces of exploitation. Usually made of ash poles of spears!

          So I wrote about this. Something like a pleasure yacht. But I can’t presume, it hurts a serious question.
          1. +3
            7 June 2018 07: 06
            Among the ships found in Skuldev, there are two fighting dragars and three trading knorras, that is, they can not pull on pleasure yachts! And in 1996, they found the third ship the largest in history. On 39, a couple of oars !!! Not too much for walking rowers?
            1. +1
              7 June 2018 07: 54
              The first two ships were found at the turn of the 19-20th centuries. In the burial mounds. Dug up, found out that they are from oak. Well, they decided that the Vikings used oak. They began to build copies. Then the ambush awaited. It turned out that oak is not very suitable. He is tough. Those ships were probably built only for burial. They began to look for suitable material, and it turned out that it was a flexible ash tree. In addition, the Vikings were sometimes called Ascemans (ash people). In general, all this is debatable. hi
        2. +1
          7 June 2018 10: 17
          Quote: kalibr
          However, ships found at the bottom of the sea in the area of ​​Skuldelev and exhibited at the museum in Roskilde are made of oak. And bear the traces of exploitation. Usually made of ash poles of spears!

          the main advantage of the oak is that it almost does not rot in sea water (that's why they made the sheathing of ships only 200 years ago - and why Peter I forbade cutting oak trees for all needs, except naval ones, on pain of death). And why did the shafts of spears be made of ash - I unsubscribed a little higher!
  9. +2
    6 June 2018 21: 41
    "And trees grow on stones" is a great movie! And the material is also great!
  10. +2
    7 June 2018 01: 30
    Mikado,
    And the man I am writing about said that when you find a treasure, you must definitely pray and ask for forgiveness from the treasure master, otherwise he will be offended. Like the soul of the owner, the treasure guards. It can be damned if a treasure is taken without demand. He said that many died. About him a series of articles in the Komsomol was, very interesting. Maybe your friend is like that? Well, this check? That's because I tell passions at night looking. sad
    1. +4
      7 June 2018 10: 51
      He did not talk about the visits of the shah. It’s just ... gone when the time has come, apparently. The most worthy man was!
      1. +1
        7 June 2018 14: 37
        So it took the heavenly squad another warrior ...
  11. +17
    7 June 2018 19: 09
    I personally really like the materials about the armor and their elements,
    as well, and any materials Vyacheslav Olegovich.
    And the film "Vikings" with Kirk Douglas is reviewed several times a year.
    Cool were the guys!
    Thanks to the author and the site for these materials.
    1. +1
      7 June 2018 21: 24
      Wow! Wah! Oyoyoyo! I kept wondering if anyone would remember this movie. What is called: "respect and respect" !!! Bravo!!! I also read a book that formed the basis of the script.

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