Magyar bayonets of Lenin. How Hungarian prisoners of war fought in the Red Army

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In the 1918 year, as a result of World War I, the Austro-Hungarian Empire of the Habsburgs, which included Hungary, ceased to exist. By this time, there were about 1,9 million prisoners of war in Russia - soldiers and officers of the Austro-Hungarian army who were captured at various times. Since Austria-Hungary was a multinational state, Austro-Hungarian prisoners of war also belonged to the most diverse peoples of the Habsburg Empire. Most of the prisoners of war were Hungarians (about 500 thousand people) and Austrians (450 thousand people), and the remaining half of the prisoners of war were Czechs, Slovaks, Croats, Slovenes, Poles, Ruthenians and representatives of some other nations. The tsarist government sought to place prisoners of war - representatives of Slavic peoples (Czechs, Slovaks, Croats) in the European part of Russia, and non-Slavic prisoners of war (Hungarians and Germans) - in the Volga region and beyond the Urals.

Magyar bayonets of Lenin. How Hungarian prisoners of war fought in the Red Army




After the February and especially the October Revolution in Russia, the Austro-Hungarian prisoners of war were rapidly politicized in the Volga region, the Urals and Siberia. As we know, the Czechoslovak Corps, which included a large part of it was the former Austro-Hungarian prisoners of war, headed for the subordination of the Entente and took part in the first events of the unfolding Civil War in Russia, speaking in alliance with the "whites". Hungarian (Magyar) prisoners of war chose a different path. Among them, the Bolsheviks gained great influence, which was facilitated by the very favorable attitude of the Bolsheviks themselves to the Magyars - prisoners of war. For example, in Samara there was a Council of Austro-Hungarian workers and soldiers' deputies, who took part in the administration of the city.

The Bolshevik leadership very much hoped for the possibility of using the numerous, organized, and most importantly - the forces that had real combat experience - Hungarian prisoners of war - in their own interests. Of course, not all Austro-Hungarian prisoners of war expressed a desire to take the side of the Bolsheviks. But it was precisely among the Hungarians that the number of supporters of the Soviet government was the largest - for example, as of April 1918, the All-Russian Congress of Revolutionary Hungarian Prisoners of War represented about 100 thousand people.

Under the leadership of the Hungarian communist Karoy Ligeti, the publication of the first Russian communist newspaper in the Hungarian language “Revolution” began, which was distributed in camps for Hungarian prisoners of war. In May 1918, shortly after the creation of the Red Army, Vladimir Ilyich Lenin personally met with representatives of the Hungarian communist movement — Bela Kun, Tibor Samuel and Dej Farago. These people played a key role in the agitation of Hungarian prisoners of war and the transition of many Magyars to the side of the Red Army.

Bela Kun (1886-1938), who was a journalist in his youth, joined the Social Democratic movement as early as 1902, joining the Hungarian Social Democratic Party. In 1914, he was mobilized for military service and sent to the Eastern Front, where he was soon captured and found himself in the Urals - in a camp for Austro-Hungarian prisoners of war. There he continued his "revolutionary self-education" and became a supporter of the Bolsheviks. After the October Revolution, Bela Kun quickly made a career in the Tomsk Provincial Committee of the Bolsheviks, and in March 1918 created the Hungarian group under the Russian Communist Party (Bolsheviks), which took up the direct communist agitation of Hungarian prisoners of war.

Tibor Samuel (1890-1919), former bank clerk, in 1908-1909 joined the Hungarian Social Democratic Party and became a journalist for opposition newspapers. After the outbreak of the First World War, he was also drafted into the Austro-Hungarian army and sent to the front, and in 1915, Tibor Samuel was captured in Russian. Joining the Hungarian group of the RCP (B), Tibor became the closest ally of Bela Kun and set about creating the Hungarian detachments to defend the Russian revolution.


IN AND. Lenin and Tibor Samuel


Dej Farago (1880-1958), unlike Bela Kun and Tibor Samuel, came from the proletarian environment. In his youth, he worked as a mechanic, back in 1897, he joined a Marxist circle in Vienna, then was secretary of the union of mechanics, one of the leaders of the Hungarian railway workers' union. His further journey is typical of many “Red Magyars” - a call to the Austro-Hungarian army in 1914, and a Russian captive in 1915. In the spring of 1918, Farago joined the Hungarian group of the RCP (b), created by Kuhn and Samuel, and as its representative met in the Kremlin with Lenin himself.

After this meeting, Deje Farago (pictured) was assigned to Samara, where at that time there were a large number of Austro-Hungarian prisoners of war - ethnic Hungarians and Germans - Austrians. Farago was faced with a rather serious task - to create from former Austro-Hungarian prisoners of war armed formations of internationalists who could support the Bolsheviks in the defense of the revolution. The former locksmith and trade union leader got down to business with enthusiasm. In Samara, the newspaper “Ebredesh” (“The Awakening”) appeared, published in Magyar language and distributed among Hungarian prisoners of war. In the shortest possible time, Farago managed to create an organization of Hungarian prisoners of war in Samara, and then in Syzran.

Meanwhile, at the end of December 1917 of the year, before the collapse of Austria-Hungary, the Samara Kommunar unit was formed in Samara, staffed by Hungarians and Austrians. The Hungarian prisoner Shandor Siklay (1895-1956) was appointed his political commissar. Called to the Austro-Hungarian army in the 1914 year, a year later Siklai was captured in Russian, and after the revolution he joined the Bolsheviks and engaged in the formation of international detachments.

In March, 1918 was created another Samara detachment, staffed by the Hungarians, headed by Bela Bayor. In Nikolaevsk, the International Special Purpose Battalion was created, a significant part of the personnel of which were Hungarians. In the Urals region, the 1 Moscow International Communist Battalion of 500 infantry, 300 cavalrymen, with 15 machine guns and 4 artillery guns operated. The detachment was commanded by another Magyar prisoner of war - Lajos Wienerman - a former carpenter, and then a non-commissioned officer in the Austro-Hungarian army. A significant part of the Hungarians were in the Saratov international regiment. The international battalion of the Samara Provincial Cheka was commanded by Ernst Sugar (1894-1938) - also a former prisoner of war who joined the Communists. The battalion consisted of 600 bayonets, 60 sabers, 5 machine guns and two 3-inch guns.

It should be noted that, unlike the same Latvian riflemen, the Magyars in the Red Army did not create their own national formations. They constituted a significant part, and even the majority of the personnel in many international teams and detachments, but there were no purely Hungarian detachments. The Red Magyars played an important role in the establishment of Soviet power in the Volga region, in the Urals and in Siberia. Thus, the Moscow International Communist Battalion under the command of Lajos Wienerman (in the photo) fought against the Czechoslovaks and Cossacks, captured Novouzensk, Aleksandrov-Guy and a number of villages and farmsteads.

According to the reports of the Red Army command, the Wienerman detachment was distinguished by great combat effectiveness. However, on October 15, 1918, in a battle with the Ural Cossacks near the village of Abisheva, Layosh Wienerman died. By the way, they buried him in Moscow. The Samara GubchK battalion under the command of Ernst Sugar was sent in the spring of 1919 to suppress the peasant "chapan uprising". Later M.V. Frunze reported to LD Trotsky, that as a result of the suppression of the uprising, at least 1000 people were killed, about 600 people were shot for counter-revolutionary activities. The total number of Hungarian Red Army soldiers in Siberia and the Far East alone is estimated by historians at 27-30 thousand people.

During the Civil War in Russia, the “star” of the famous Hungarian writer Mate Zalki (1896-1937) rose. Mate Zalka, who was actually called Bela Frankl, graduated from a commercial school and almost immediately after graduation he was drafted into the Austro-Hungarian army, received epaulets of a junior officer, and then fell into Russian captivity. Joining the communist movement, Mate Zalka organized an international detachment of former Austro-Hungarian prisoners of war in Krasnoyarsk, fought in the rear of the Kolchak troops, rose to command positions in the Red Army.

The fact that the “Red Magyars”, together with the Latvian riflemen and the Chinese volunteers were one of the main foreign forces of the Bolsheviks, was already known during the years of the Civil War. This circumstance was actively used by anti-Soviet propaganda in order to emphasize the "anti-Russian" nature of the revolution. The opponents of the Bolsheviks liked to refer to the fact that the Bolsheviks came to power on the bayonets of the Magyars, Chinese, Latvian, Yugoslav and other international groups.

In the year 1919, when the revolution began in Hungary and the Hungarian Soviet Republic was proclaimed, many active Communists from among the Hungarian prisoners of war hurried to move to Budapest to take part in the revolutionary events. Among them, in particular, Tibor Samuel, who held a number of people's commissariat posts in the Hungarian Soviet Republic, including the post of people's commissar for education, and then the people's commissar for military affairs. It was he who controlled the most radical and efficient detachment "Leninists", commanded by another revolutionary - Jozsef Cerny. However, Tibor Samuel’s fate was tragic: after the suppression of the Hungarian Soviet Republic, he tried to flee to neighboring Austria and on August 2, 1919, was shot by Austrian gendarmes.

After the end of the Civil War in Russia, many “Red Magyars” continued to faithfully and serve the world communist movement - in the Soviet Union and beyond. So, Mate Zalka to 1923, he served in the troops of the Cheka-GPU, then worked in various positions - from a diplomatic courier to the director of the Theater of the Revolution in Moscow. In 1936, Mate Zalka volunteered to go to Spain to fight on the Republican side. In Spain, he commanded the 12 International Brigade, becoming known under the name of General Lukács. 11 June 1937, he died from a shell fragment, and Colonel Pavel Batov (the future general of the army) who was with him was seriously wounded. Mate Zalka received great fame as a writer - his works were repeatedly published in Russian in the Soviet Union, translated into other languages ​​of the world.

Bela Kun played a much more sinister role in the Russian Civil War. It was he, along with Rosalia Zemlyachka, who led the "Red Terror" in the Crimea, holding the position of the chairman of the Crimean Revolutionary Committee. After the end of the Civil War in Russia, Bela Kun was predominantly in Comintern work, repeatedly traveled abroad, and then finally settled in the USSR - as it turned out, nothing. In 1937, he was arrested, and on August 29, 1938 was shot by the sentence of the Military Collegium of the Supreme Court of the USSR. Ernst Sugar, who after the Civil War continued to serve in the Cheka-GPU-NKVD system and rose to the position of assistant chief of the 4 section of the UMVD UNKVD of the Leningrad Region and the title of captain of state security, was repressed. 25 January 1938, he was shot.

Shandor Siklay (pictured), who commanded the “Samara Communard” detachment, fought in the Urals and in Central Asia and graduated from the Communist University. Sverdlov and worked as his teacher. In 1936, Siclay, “remembering his youth,” went to Spain, where he fought with the International Brigade until 1939, then he was interned and 4 spent in the French colonies in Africa, and in 1943, he was able to return to the USSR. After the liberation of Hungary in 1944, the city of Siclay returned to his homeland, he worked in the staff of the Central leadership of the Hungarian Communist Party, and then became an officer in the Hungarian People’s Army and in 1953-1956. served as director of the Museum of Military stories in the rank of colonel. In the days of the anti-communist uprising, Shandor Siklai and his father-in-law, the chairman of the committee of the Patriotic Popular Front in the town of Budakeszi Lajos Kish, were killed (according to the official version) by the rebels. Sikklai and Kish were shot dead for six residents of Budakeszi and convicted eleven people, sentencing them to different terms of imprisonment. Posthumously Siklai was given the rank of Major General.

Of the heroes of the article, with their death, only Dej Farago, who was captured by the whites during the Civil War and placed in a concentration camp, from where he was lucky to escape, to get to Europe, was lucky to die. In 1932-1944 He worked in the Hungarian trade union movement, and in 1944, he was arrested by the Nazis and placed in the Mauthausen concentration camp. After leaving the camp after the victory over the Nazis, Farago actively worked in the society of the Soviet-Hungarian friendship, and died in 1958 at the age of 78 years.

For the majority of ordinary Hungarian prisoners of war participation in the Civil War in Russia was only an episode on the way to the long-awaited return from Russian captivity to their homeland. Nevertheless, the “Red Magyars” took an active part in the Civil War, deserving gratitude from the Red and sharply negative attitude from those who supported and sympathized with the White.
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  1. +6
    4 June 2018 05: 14
    having earned gratitude from the Reds and a sharply negative attitude from those who supported and sympathized with the white.

    Both Russian and other shed blood and blood ... and the same Latvians, Magyars, etc. actively participated in this.
    Kolyvan uprising is an example ...
    http://rys-strategia.ru/publ/1-1-0-647
    1. +7
      4 June 2018 07: 06
      Quote: The same LYOKHA
      etc.

      Lech - the revolution in all countries hid on the Jews! And the Jews led these "occupiers". The same "Magyar" Tibor Samuel is an ordinary Jewish guy! bully Like Bela Kun. And the Magyars were made extreme.
    2. +3
      4 June 2018 14: 16
      Quote: The same LYOKHA
      Kolyvan uprising

      the article is interesting and understandable such uprisings were everywhere, the people sowed for themselves, and not for the Bolsheviks (who needed to feed the country).
      Very interesting in the article was:
      ORDER
      the garrison of the city of Kolyvan.
      № 2
      July 30, 1920 Kolyvan
      § 1
      I order all citizens of the city of Kolyvan to surrender to the Headquarters of the Consolidated North-West Group the following at hand:
      a) Firearms and cold steel (rifles, revolvers, drafts and others).
      b) Firearms (bombs, grenades, cartridges and others).
      c) Harness and harness of the official sample.
      d) State uniform and equipment (boots, boots, overcoats, tunics).
      e) State underwear and pastel accessories (blankets, sheets, pillowcases, footcloths and others).
      e) All saddles.
      And immediately, where did the peaceful farmers get all this from?
      1. +3
        5 June 2018 00: 57
        Quote: naidas
        And immediately, where did the peaceful farmers get all this from?

        The echo of war ... laughing
        1. 0
          5 June 2018 19: 00
          Then an article from Lehi about the Kolyvan rebellion bullshit.
          ... The revolution of 1917 and the overthrow of the tsarist autocracy did not entail any changes. Peace and silence. ..
          ... In 1918, during the uprising of Czechoslovakians on the Siberian Railway and the seizure of Novonikolaevsk by them, the changes did not again affect the Kolyvans ...
          ... Even during the period of Kolchakism, this period was, on the contrary, the most calm. The White Guard Kolchak units did not disturb Kolyvan, since there were no partisan raids here - there was no one to fight with. Even with the retreat of the white troops, 5 horses were mobilized, and then in exchange for the tired ...
          When the Red Army advanced on Novonikolaevsk, the red units also didn’t get into the city of Kolyvan.
  2. +12
    4 June 2018 05: 48
    the Bolsheviks came to power on the bayonets of the Magyars, Chinese, Latvian, Yugoslav and other international detachments.
    The perfect truth.
    The inhuman cynicism of the Iliche, who called for the suppression of the RUSSIANS, their fellow citizens, OCCUPIERS, who attacked the country, is striking.
    This only emphasizes the anti-Russian character of the new government.
    What about the invaders? What they did, the murder of Russians since 1914, the more they continued to do it.
    It is good that in 1937 almost all the remaining ones were shot ...
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    2. +5
      4 June 2018 06: 23
      Striking non-human cynicism

      The Magyars proved themselves in all their glory in the Carpathians, exterminating the Russian-speaking population with special zeal ... this can be called genocide.
      https://topwar.ru/122397-kto-ustroil-genocid-russ
      kih-galichan.html

      in Europe they don’t like to remember this.
      1. +8
        4 June 2018 08: 18
        Quote: The same LYOKHA
        The Magyars proved themselves in all their glory in the Carpathians, exterminating the Russian-speaking population with special zeal ... this can be called genocide.

        Hungarian troops were the largest beasts in the Second World War. Hitler's last, most faithful ally, fought to the end.
        Roman Skomorokhov well described their crimes near Voronezh. They tried not to take them prisoner.
    3. +8
      4 June 2018 07: 41
      Quote: Olgovich
      The perfect truth.

      On the bones of the Republic of Ingushetia everyone was dancing and not lazy, but then everyone was lucky. The Germans brought the Bolsheviks to power and they got the most, all the bloodshed completely. Hungarians, Balts, Czechs, Austrians, Chinese spilling seas of blood did not know of course that it would ever come around, but God was not a fraer, he wrote to everyone, especially the Chinese.
      And about the Jews and say nothing, terrible consequences ...
      And when the Czechs, for example, resemble 1968, they forget that their citizens did a lot for this 50 years before, especially the commissioner of the 5th army, to whom they erect and honor the monument. This bastard frolic enough, but when the Comintern sent him home to do a revolution like in Russia, he felt sorry for his compatriots, and the allocated money ("honestly" expropriated from the executed hostages) swam through taverns and wrote a book against the war, and the whole world applauds his humanism .. .
      1. +5
        4 June 2018 08: 28
        Quote: Puncher
        to whom they erect and honor a monument. This bastard frolic in plenty, but when the Comintern sent him home to do a revolution like in Russia, he felt sorry for his compatriots, and the allocated money (“honestly” expropriated from the executed hostages) swelled

        Let them do what they want in the Czech Republic, but erect monuments in Russia the invader (even had a silver medal "For Courage"), who fought against Russia, and an alcoholic is beyond reason ...
    4. 0
      21 August 2018 20: 59
      I agree with everything, coma 37. At 37, they just shot our citizens.
  3. +2
    4 June 2018 08: 43
    Magyars, in my opinion, did not play a major role as military units in the Civil War, mainly on guard and guard functions. By the beginning of 1919, by the decision of the Soviet government, the formation of new military units of the internationalists was prohibited. They were mainly engaged in agitation, political training, propaganda, material support of their own countrymen, sending them to their homeland.
    1. +2
      5 June 2018 05: 05
      Quote: bober1982
      By the beginning of 1919, by the decision of the Soviet government, the formation of new military units of the internationalists was prohibited.

      recourse
      The Red Army of Soviet Latvia was expelled from Latvia and came to arrange terror in Russia precisely in 1919.
      The Estonian division took part in the assault on Perekop in 1920.
      Up to a third of the troops who fought against Kolchak in 1919 are tyrnationalists of all stripes .....
  4. +21
    4 June 2018 08: 46
    In all wars, foreigners far from local interests, the rulers tried to use against their people (the Scots and Swiss from the French kings, the Russian regiment of Chinese emperors, etc.).
    But it was during the years of Guards that foreigners became a shock force - destroying indigenous people. What is it that they don’t (in this case) cut the Magyars? They killed Russians in WWII, and continued into the Civil - only in the latter case, they were also given the go-ahead by the international “Russian” government. The acts of the executioner Bela Kun in Crimea alone are worth something.
    And rightly so - that the Chinese and Magyars were not taken prisoner.
    1. MrK
      +6
      4 June 2018 17: 11
      Quote: Bouncer
      But it was during the years of Guards that foreigners became a shock force - destroying indigenous people. What is it that they don’t (in this case) cut the Magyars? They killed Russians in WWII, and continued into the Civil - only in the latter case, they were also given the go-ahead by the international “Russian” government. The acts of the executioner Bela Kun in Crimea alone are worth something.

      And 14 of the countries that committed the intervention against Russia, for whom did they fight? Maybe for the Bolsheviks? But there were more than 200 000 interventionists.

      Quote: Author
      Later M.V. Frunze reported to L.D. Trotsky, that as a result of the suppression of the uprising at least 1000 people were killed, about 600 people were shot for counter-revolutionary activity
      .
      A reference can not be given? And how the winds let go into the water.
  5. +4
    4 June 2018 09: 22
    The Czechoslovak Corps started the civil war, and the first defenders of the Soviet regime were the Latvian arrows, so there is nothing surprising.
    1. +18
      4 June 2018 18: 17
      The civil war was launched by the government, which dispersed the Constituent Assembly - i.e. correcting the will of their people.
      And the Czech case is just a catalyst, the only major thief at that time. formation, besides echelons stretched to half the country. His rebellion gave an impetus and overgrown with anti-Bolshevik forces.
      No more than that
  6. +2
    4 June 2018 09: 22
    He drew attention to the sudden death of most of the heroes of the article in 1937-38. It is a pity that the Hungarian Soviet Republic did not defend!
    1. +4
      4 June 2018 09: 35
      Some were then literally finished off in 1956, in Hungary itself.
      1. 0
        6 June 2018 20: 51
        There were also such cases in 1956 when some Hungarian old communists who took part in our Civil War and in events related to the Hungarian Soviet Republic fought on the side of the rebels.
  7. +11
    4 June 2018 12: 53
    As it is weak, the attack went. It turned out an article for one Olgovich. That's who has a holiday.
    1. +6
      4 June 2018 13: 13
      Quote: Curious
      As it is weak, the attack went. It turned out an article for one Olgovich. That's who has a holiday.

      Well, why, only for Olgovich? Holiday for me too laughing
      1. MrK
        +5
        4 June 2018 17: 14
        Quote: RUSS
        Well, why, only for Olgovich? Holiday for me too


        Ie a holiday for all anti-Soviet. Yes.
      2. +2
        4 June 2018 19: 48
        And for you. And for the beaver. And for the gopnik and for other human dregs.
        1. +2
          5 June 2018 07: 07
          By the way, I liked the article, as a staunch anti-Soviet adviser, the article itself was neutral in relation to all the opposing sides. As one of the comments is witty, without any extra sketches.
      3. +1
        5 June 2018 07: 25
        Quote: RUSS
        Well, why, only for Olgovich? Holiday for me too

        The two of you, huh? laughing
  8. 0
    4 June 2018 13: 04
    Even from Hungary they were kicked out.
  9. +5
    4 June 2018 13: 18
    Here, the Magyars dislike of the Czechs still solved a lot. When the Czechoslovak corps began to fight against the Bolsheviks, many Hungarians automatically joined the Red Army. And then in Hungary during interrogations they answered that they fought for the Reds just to beat the Czechs. request Plus, the Hungarians did not forget the suppression by the Russian troops of Paskevich of the Hungarian revolution 70 years before. They didn’t have any kind feelings for the Russian Empire. And to the former royal officers too.
  10. +7
    4 June 2018 14: 36
    The role of Bela Kun in organizing the systematic mass extermination of Russian people in Crimea should also not be forgotten.
    1. MrK
      +6
      4 June 2018 17: 25
      Quote: iouris
      The role of Bela Kun in organizing the systematic mass extermination of Russian people in Crimea should also not be forgotten.


      Even Memorial agrees that the whole White-bandit riffraff was gathered in Crimea by 1920: officers from all fronts defeated throughout Russia; landowners and manufacturers saving salvaged property; scammers; pimps; smugglers and cocaine traffickers; ordinary bandits, and just lovers of profit.
      L.M. Abramenko is the main exposer of the crimes of the bloody Soviet system in the Crimea. 30 Abramenko worked for years in the USSR Prosecutor's Office - he was engaged in exactly the thing that today stigmatizes. Here is such a fighter for the truth. Read his articles and books.
      Abramenko diligently rummaged through all the archives of Ukraine and Russia in order to prove the crimes of the bloody Chekists and dug up all the shooting cases in 1920-1921.
      True-minded Abramenko wrote down the names of all the executed in his book. So, Abramenko’s figures: executions in the cities of Crimea during 1920-1921 years: Dzhankoy - 253, Simferopol - 2066, Kerch - 624, Feodosia - 550, Yalta - 822, Sevastopol - 57, Yevpatoria - 154, 24, 4550, 148. TOTAL shot - XNUMX and sent to a concentration camp - XNUMX.
      And here is the figure given by anti-Soviet historians: after filtering and checking, 4698 people from all those scumbags from all over Russia hiding in Crimea were punished.
      1. +1
        5 June 2018 01: 23
        Read the "Sun of the Dead" by Russian writer Shmelyov.
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  11. +4
    4 June 2018 17: 35
    There was also a prominent red commander Lajos Gavro.

    "Opponents of the Bolsheviks liked to refer to the fact that the Bolsheviks came to power on bayonets of the Magyar, Chinese, Latvian, Yugoslav and other international groups" - and on whose bayonets the white army was held?
    "An operational report by the Tomsk Revolutionary Committee on the organization of a military revolutionary headquarters, arming the workers, and the transfer of Kolchak military units to the side of the Soviet power in Tomsk on December 18, 1919.
    Today, at 1 o’clock in the afternoon, the Military Revolutionary Committee organized a military revolutionary headquarters, which immediately proceeded to reorganize the military units that sided with the Soviet power and arm the workers.
    The first military unit, which expressed its consent to go over to the side of the Soviets, was the 1st Grenadier Battalion (Pepelyaevtsi), then registration went in the following order: SERB detachment, 5th Tomsk regiment, 7th Kuznetsk, 2nd frontline, Yekaterinburg cadet school, 1st artillery regiment, 2nd artillery regiment, 4th heavy artillery division, 2 ... (text damaged, possibly personnel) battery, horse artillery platoon, horse-hunting division, 2nd engineering division, the operational part of the headquarters of the 2nd Division and all its teams, the JEWISH self-defense company, TURK-Tatar detachment, city self-guard "(emphasis mine S.M.) (" Partisan Movement in Western Siberia "")

    Czechs, Poles, Serbs, Jews, Turkic-Tatars, Kyrgyz ... Plus, foreign intervention. These are all opponents of the Bolsheviks. Who said anything about the anti-Russian character of the revolution? Pot calls the kettle black...
    1. +2
      4 June 2018 19: 27
      The bulk of the population of the Russian Empire at that time
      there were peasants. If the peasants with weapons in their hands rose together on someone’s
      side - red or white - they would have won immediately.
      But the Russian peasants, tired of the 4-year-old World War, turned out to be
      passive in a new war - Civil. And so the military units
      from foreigners - prisoners of war (like Czechs or Hungarians), migrant workers (Chinese)
      or ideological allies (Latvians) were so active and weighty.
      Prisoners of war did not voluntarily find themselves in the depths of Russia - why blame them?
      1. +1
        5 June 2018 01: 22
        Quote: voyaka uh
        But Russian peasants, tired of the 4-year-old World War

        And the French, German, Romanian, British ...?
        Everything is relative. A monument of rutabaga has already been erected in Germany?
        Of all the warring states, Russia was in the best condition in terms of living conditions.
      2. +1
        5 June 2018 01: 27
        Quote: voyaka uh
        military units
        from foreigners - prisoners of war (like Czechs or Hungarians), migrant workers (Chinese)
        or ideological allies (Latvians) were so active and weighty.

        Yes. Foreign mercenaries robbed the population. For example, in particular, Czechoslovakians. This robbery has signs of indemnity imposed on the population of Russia.
        1. +2
          5 June 2018 17: 13
          And the white squads from where they got food, when they eat
          would you like? Every day I wanted, by the way.
          There were no supermarkets. sad Also (excuse me) - they robbed the population,
          as if the indemnity was imposed on the population of Russia that turned up.
  12. 0
    4 June 2018 19: 57
    A cool and interesting film about these events "Stars and Soldiers". An unusual look at the White Guards. The whole tragedy of the Civil. I was surprised how this happened in the USSR. It turns out the film is joint and the director is Hungarian. They were allowed a lot, and probably from the outside know better ..
  13. +4
    4 June 2018 20: 00
    In Primorye, near Ussuriysk, there is the village of Rakovka. During the Civil War, the red Hungarian Nagy died there. Then he was buried and a monument was erected. In the dashing 90s, the monument was cut to metal. And a couple of years ago it was restored, only now in stone.
  14. +4
    4 June 2018 22: 28
    Quote: Olgovich
    Hungarian troops were the largest beasts in the Second World War. Hitler's last, most faithful ally, fought to the end.

    Here is a paradox. My late father, who took part in various duties on duty in 1956 in Hungary, said that he had never seen people more fanatically devoted to the idea of ​​communism than the old Hungarian communists. According to him, they were ready to lay bones for ours and rendered very significant assistance. Generally eccentric people are these Magyars. And cruel.
    1. +1
      5 June 2018 01: 07
      Quote: Gronsky
      Generally eccentric people are these Magyars. And cruel.

      In fact, the “relatives” of Finns, Estonians and our Mordovians, Mari, Khanty, Mansi (Finno-Ugric group), who played up. Infernal mixture.
      1. 0
        5 June 2018 01: 37
        We are not racists here. Behind the trees you need to be able to see the forest. World war, revolution and civil war are far from spontaneous. You always need to look, but who benefits? They try not to talk about where the money flows. But this is obvious. It is at the very bottom that the golden teeth of the corpses are broken, so they make corpses. At another level, more serious goals and objectives.
  15. +1
    4 June 2018 23: 54
    On the number of internationalists in the Red Army
    Apologists of the White Guard justify the defeat of their grandfathers by the “hordes” of Chinese, Hungarians and Latvians. In their opinion, the Russians could not make a revolution, these are all the machinations of the Bolsheviks, who, with bayonets of foreigners, drove the Russians into socialism. And they hang this noodles on the ears of readers.
    But how many internationalists were there in the Red Army?
    Latvian arrows. During the years of the civil war, only one Latvian division was formed, the second was never assembled. In total, about 18 thousand soldiers participated in the civil war. At the end of 1918, they amounted to a little more than 2%, by the end of 1919 their number had dropped to 0,6% of the total number of the Red Army.
    Hungarians. In total, no more than 40 thousand fought at the same time in the battles of the civil war. The total number of Hungarians-internationalists who participated in the civil war in the USSR is estimated by Soviet and Hungarian researchers as about 100 thousand people. To the total number of Reds who took part in the Civil War, this number will be no more than 2%.
    The rest were Russian, namely the Russian workers and peasants who fought for socialism and expelled from Russia all the rebels and parasites and all those who again tried to impose them on the Russian people.
    For reference: Red Army strength
    By the end of April 1918 - 196 people
    By early September 1918 - 550 people
    By the end of October 1918 - nearly 800 people
    By the end of 1919 - 3 million people
    By the fall of 1920 - 5 500 000 people
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    5 June 2018 09: 28
    Quote: Ingvar 72
    Quote: The same LYOKHA
    etc.

    Lech - the revolution in all countries hid on the Jews! And the Jews led these "occupiers". The same "Magyar" Tibor Samuel is an ordinary Jewish guy! bully Like Bela Kun. And the Magyars were made extreme.

    And the Jews dig holes in the roads and the Jews don’t want to work for you. It is convenient to blame the Jews in all their troubles. laughing

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