Under the blow of the Kurds. Turkish army launches offensive in northern Iraq

The Turkish army launched an offensive in northern Iraq. In the Kandil region, Turkish troops have already advanced 26 kilometers into Iraqi territory.

Turkish Interior Minister Suleiman Soilu said on this occasion that in the north of Iraq, the headquarters of the Kurdistan Workers Party (PKK) banned in Turkey is located in the above-mentioned region and the Turkish army will not stop until it reaches and seizes this structure.

Sanction for the operation of the Turkish army issued by the Turkish Parliament, which over the past 8 years annually extends the corresponding mandate. Turkish authorities consider the Kurdistan Workers' Party a terrorist organization and one of the main threats to national security.

According to the Turkish General Staff, at least two Turkish soldiers were killed during the offensive in northern Iraq. Also during the missile attack on the Turkish troops, another soldier was injured.

The Turkish army periodically inflicts pinpoint strikes against the targets of the PKK in Northern Iraq, where the organization’s camps are located, shelters, command posts and repositories with weapons. This attack is not the first undertaken by the Turkish army in the area, but the ultimate goal of destroying the PKK headquarters was never achieved.

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[Hire]

Everyone is trying to have time to solve their problems. The Turks need the Kurds to pinch their tail and make America more accommodating on the F-35.

[ANCIENT]

But not everyone is given it!

[Safevi]

The Turkish army has long been in northern Iraq. What is the news about? Periodically, PKK militants are caught. Yesterday 10 militants were destroyed and they took a warehouse in the cave- machine guns, machine guns, grenade launchers ..

[XXXIII]

Quote: Hire

Everyone is trying to have time to solve their problems. The Turks need the Kurds to pinch their tail and make America more accommodating on the F-35.

Or crush the Kurds through the Russian Federation, so that the states have less leverage, and then give Iraq the right to sovereign politics and so far, state democracy ....

[Thunderbolt]

Quote: sefevi

The Turkish army has long been in northern Iraq. What is the news about?

The news is designed for people who are poorly oriented in the situation or just trolls in order to enjoy the “split” between the United States and Turkey. In fact, I believe that there is no critical split, but there are misunderstanding and sharp corners on purely tactical issues, but on the vector these things do not affect the long-term relationship between America and Turkey. Yes, Erdogan’s rhetoric, for example, can be derogatory and devastating towards the Americans, but it’s all a bluff for an internal audience (in order to strengthen its already strong position), or an enticement for Russian, in order to grab another piece of Syria from Syria.

[APASUS]

Quote: Thunderbolt

Quote: sefevi

The Turkish army has long been in northern Iraq. What is the news about?

The news is designed for people who are poorly oriented in the situation or just trolls in order to enjoy the “split” between the United States and Turkey. In fact, I believe that there is no critical split, but there are misunderstanding and sharp corners on purely tactical issues, but on the vector these things do not affect the long-term relationship between America and Turkey. Yes, Erdogan’s rhetoric, for example, can be derogatory and devastating towards the Americans, but it’s all a bluff for an internal audience (in order to strengthen its already strong position), or an enticement for Russian, in order to grab another piece of Syria from Syria.

Do not find it strange enough - the war of one American project (Kurds) with a direct ally (Turkey). With all unions, the Turks position themselves quite strongly and infringe on the interests of Americans, for strong alliances this is not a typical phenomenon

[Thunderbolt]

No, I don’t find ... Kurds are a headed collar on the neck of the Turkish empire, so they can twitch in any direction, but the key to the lock is in the hands of the British, Americans.

[SSR]

Quote: APASUS

Do not find it strange enough - the war of one American project (Kurds) with a direct ally (Turkey).

This "ally" of the Anglo-Saxons, did not mattress only the most lazy Anglo-Saxons.
They must understand something.

[Romka47]

Maybe they just wrote off the Kurds? (although in theory they are still needed, the conflict is in full swing) They use the whole story promising to give land, then they "throw" me, I studied at school, I read it from Pikul in Bayazet.

[Hottabych]

And the attempt on Erdogan and the attempted coup, in your opinion, also does not affect the vector of long-term relationships?

Quote: Thunderbolt

In fact, I believe that there is no critical split, but there are misunderstandings and sharp angles on purely tactical issues, but these things do not affect the vector of long-term relations between America and Turkey.

[bouncyhunter]

It does not interfere . It is possible that this Turkish offensive has several goals at once. But no one, of course, will tell about this publicly.

[Thunderbolt]

Quote: bouncyhunter

It is possible that this Turkish offensive has several goals at once.

Well, at least one open, please.

Quote: bouncyhunter

But no one, of course, will tell about this publicly.

That means how tricky they have it all, right? You are there, do not disappear with such ingenious finds.

[dorz]

US Kurds poured and abandoned. There are no objective reasons for the formation of an independent Kurdistan.

[farcop]

Quote: dorz

US Kurds poured and abandoned. There are no objective reasons for the formation of an independent Kurdistan.

But what about Article 26

Indigenous peoples have the right to lands, territories and resources that they traditionally owned, which they traditionally occupied or otherwise used or acquired.

[Mountain shooter]

But what about the US occupation forces not protecting Iraqi territory? East, damn it ...

[The black]

The Kurds are reaping the benefits of the Kurdish-American "friendship" ..... the Americans turned up with them, and the Turks merge into the toilet

[ANCIENT]

The Turks still want to "share" their military equipment ??? They beat a few ishs, it’s good for them that the Kurds are scattered, otherwise they would give such an answer that the Turkish army would scatter through the bushes! And everywhere the Turks climb - into Iraq, to ​​Syria - they decide their own affairs at the expense of others!

[Yeraz]

Quote: ANCIENT

otherwise they would give such an answer that the Turkish army would scatter through the bushes!

straight through the bushes))) it’s not harmful to dream. for a thousand years, the Seljuks have been there, the Kurds still can’t beat them))))

[ANCIENT]

They have an agreement imitate the war with "little blood" - with whom will they trade then they will, if they kill many? ???

[protoss]

in afrin already "gave an answer"
Well, they do not pull against the regular army, or as in this case against the gendarmerie.

[72jora72]

it’s good for them that the Kurds are scattered, otherwise they would give such an answer that the Turkish army would scatter through the bushes!

Well, so far only the Kurds have scattered in the bushes, for example, like in Afrin from the Turks or like in Kirkuk from the Iranian proxies.

[Comrade Ivanov]

And what's the difference if the Kurds were allies with Russia?

[The black]

Quote: Comrade Ivanov

And what's the difference

So think at your leisure

[Pissarro]

Then the Kurds would have a chance. And now they’re just cannon fodder, consumables

[Egorovich]

Following will go the north of Syria, the Syrian Kurds in great "expectation", will soon jump.

[bouncyhunter]

Quote: Egorovich

Syrian Kurds are in a big "expectation", soon jumping.

They will know how to choose with whom to be friends and be led by the generous mattress promises.

[Egorovich]

Pasha, but the Kurds are not completely stupid, I think so. And they have a full layout too. When they need to, they will sharply change hands, especially since they didn’t quarrel especially with Russia.

[bouncyhunter]

Quote: Egorovich

When they need to, they will sharply change hands, especially since they didn’t quarrel especially with Russia.

I also consider this option as the main one.
Just if it hadn’t been immediately taken to mattress tales, now everything could have been otherwise. But history does not tolerate the subjunctive mood ...

[Egorovich]

Pash, but here the leading role was played by money and weapons, which mattresses gave plenty. And the seizure of the oil-bearing regions of Syria played a big role, while Assad was weak. Now the situation is changing before our eyes. Let them think they live there.

[bouncyhunter]

It was necessary to think earlier, now it's too late to rush around - just change shoes and bow to the GDP.

[Egorovich]

And in the end, everything will be so if Assad is not bowed forward.

[cost]

I would like to listen to this topic by our authoritative specialist in the Middle East, Vitaly

[Guru]

Kurdish pressure is a useful thing, it’s quicker that they put the wrong owner.

[KVU-NSVD]

Turks are not childish. Here is a bundle with neighboring Iraq tied. The campaign of the Sultan ceases to see the edges. The Kurds are of course the enemies of Turkey, but it’s necessary to understand that an operation against them is carried out in a neighboring country .. Most likely it will be banged ... and you won’t find any ends, there are very many beneficiaries ..

[protoss]

Erdogan is reelected ahead of schedule on June 24, he sees all the edges perfectly, he just knows how to carefully, but aggressively push them apart.
and the Kurds are not enemies of Turkey, now, for example, such an authoritative Kurdish structure as huda-par is agitating with might and main for Erdogan. he has Kurds in the government right up to the deputy prime minister. Interestingly, the top of the RPK in a significant part of Turkish nationality.

[solzh]

The memory of the Ottoman Empire does not give rest to the Turks. Imperialists Christmas tree sticks.

[Comrade Ivanov]

"NATO nyama and aid on Israel in case of an attack from Iran, Kaza Stoltenberg"
“NATO will not help Israel in case of Iran’s attack,” Stoltenberg said

Nothing, Russia will help!

[Separ DNR]

Quote: Comrade Ivanov

“NATO will not help Israel in case of Iran’s attack,” Stoltenberg said
Nothing, Russia will help!

Iran? Based on the fact that Israel is currently pursuing an extremely aggressive policy ...

[bald]

An empty idea - the Kurds will not go anywhere. Turkey in its "features", takes a lot on itself (generally in politics). It reliably provides itself to domestic terrorists.

[NordUral]

And can help Israel in creating a Kurdish state?
Assad did not give them autonomy when it was possible. A Kurdish state is better (which is quite reasonable and honest with respect to this people, I emphasize - I'm talking about the Kurdish people) than the constant presence of bandits and their curators. And Turkey’s imperial ambition will decrease, it will be more honest with partners.

[bald]

At the expense of Israel’s help, I doubt, and there’s nothing to it; they didn’t rest against them. And the rest, Eugene completely agree, as I emphasize - the Kurdish people.

[dolfi1]

You are mistaken, the Prime Minister of Israel supported the Kurds in their quest for the formation of their state. The Israelis and Kurds have a long relationship.

[bald]

It depends on what the support is. Try to strike at the Turkish army in Syria. this is what I understand support and help. I’m not looking for a conflict with you, and I don’t mean whose army is stronger, Turkish or yours.

[protoss]

and what is honesty? if you want a state, everything is in your hands. the states gave them weapons, so colorful kerchiefs were tied up in battle for independence, and suddenly it works.

[parusnik]

Interestingly, after the defeat of the Iraqi Kurds, the Turks will leave Iraq, and if they leave, who will ask them about it, and after leaving who will take their place?

[Separ DNR]

Quote: parusnik

Interestingly, after the defeat of the Iraqi Kurds, the Turks will leave Iraq, and if they leave, who will ask them about it, and after leaving who will take their place?

In theory, the one who will win a convincing and unconditional victory in Syria ...
But in order for such a victory to exist, it is necessary to return to Syria ALL territories previously belonging to it ...
And those under ISIS, and under Kurds, Americans, and Turks ...

Who should solve this problem?

[parusnik]

As they say, options are possible ..

[Separ DNR]

Quote: parusnik

As they say, options are possible ..

So, if the “options”, then for a long time, again, it will delete Russia from the list of large and authoritative (and therefore influential) players in the world political arena ...
And this, to us, the DNI and LC,extremely I don’t want to, because we, like no one, are now dependent on the influence of the Russian Federation in the world.
Such selfish interest

[parusnik]

Normal interest, but Russia, a bourgeois-democratic country ... For the bourgeois, interests sometimes coincide and often .. And you don’t know what they have in mind .. they will accept and agree with the main bourgeois .. for their selfish interests ...

[Separ DNR]

Quote: parusnik

Normal interest, but Russia, a bourgeois-democratic country ... For the bourgeois, interests sometimes coincide and often .. And you don’t know what they have in mind .. they will accept and agree with the main bourgeois .. for their selfish interests ...

This, in our short DNR history, already happened. And Avdeevka, and Mariupol, and smaller scales ...
And they didn’t agree on a big deal, not influential players, but so on, shellupon, Russian and Ukrainian ... But in the end, hundreds of thousands of people suffer ...

[parusnik]

I meant it .. I didn’t want to pour salt on my wounds ... But in Syria, the rates are bigger ...

[Separ DNR]

Quote: parusnik

I meant it .. I didn’t want to pour salt on my wounds ... But in Syria, the rates are bigger ...

And here I am "strewing salt", because during the years of the war I became the final cynic ...
Russia got involved in the war in Syria, counting on a quick victory, while making a strategic miscalculation, allowing deep penetration of the United States on the territory of the ATS ...
And now what? Russia gets in the face from the United States when attacking the Wagner, with the inactivity of its Air Force in Khmeimim, who sat-sat, waited, waited in readiness, but did not manage to come to the rescue, disperse the US Air Force ...

Russia, all of the sub-squeeze squeezes gas fields through PMCs, and the United States open and loudly declare their claims for political и economic influence in the region ...

[dvina71]

Quote: Separ DNR

Russia got involved in the war in Syria, counting on a quick victory

Who and where of the high military ranks of Russia has said such a thing?

Quote: Separ DNR

Russia gets in the face of the United States in the attack on Wagner

This dregs are already tired of commenting. Let's burn .. 200 is not enough .. from Ukrainians I already saw 600 ..

Quote: Separ DNR

Russia, all of the sub-silence squeezes gas fields

Again .. neither the gas nor the oil fields of Syria are of interest to Russia. Due to the presence of its huge reserves and the unstable situation in this region for the next few years.

Quote: Separ DNR

The USA openly and loudly declares its claims for political and economic influence in the region ...

They say a lot of things .. Three years ago, Assad had to leave, and the territory controlled by the Syrian forces was rapidly declining .., under the blows of the American project.
Now they barely have the mind to build another provocation with chemistry .., and the possibility of maneuvering their project is minimized.

[Separ DNR]

Quote: dvina71

Who and where of the high military ranks of Russia has said such a thing?

Question-to-question: And who dares (of serious people) openly declare this?
To then:
a) become a laughing stock;
b) become a scapegoat ...

Quote: dvina71

Neither gas nor oil fields of Syria interest Russia

Tell this to the “Wagnerites,” who, apparently, “by accident,” ended up in eastern Syria in the area of ​​oil fields. They advanced there, apparently with only one purpose, with a sense of accomplishment, to transfer their ATS.
What altruists ... I’ll directly drop a tear

[NordUral]

Well, you asked a question, Gray. A sad one, like the answer most likely.

[Separ DNR]

Quote: NordUral

Well, you asked a question, Gray. A sad one, like the answer most likely.

But it's not easy. Except how to die.

[Sergey ippon]

then there are no options, Israel)

[protoss]

Turks do not smash Iraqi Kurds, in the RPK, the composition is mainly from natives of Turkey. Turkey has no special graters with Iraqi. Small Turkish military bases have been scattered over the territory of barzanistan for many years, which are quite suitable for the KDP.

[Paranoid50]

Quote: protoss

Turks don't smash Iraqi Kurds

Then the true goals of the next Turkish expedition to Iraq ... hmm, it’s hardly just the election march of Erdogan. Territorial expansion in the case of Iraq is unlikely. There remains the option of maintaining a zone of Turkish influence.

[NordUral]

With such an ally, we still get a cloud of problems.

[Laughtermaster]

After all, the United States introduced Iraq into such a democracy that it doesn’t care.

[Vadim237]

In Iraq, an operation is now in full swing to search for and destroy militants and their accomplices.

[nikoliski]

In the photo I see the M60, have the Leopards really become so bad that instead of them such junk tanks? or just sorry for those, but these are still in the wreck?

[Wolka]

in vain the Turks started this, but the Kurdistan will still be, not today so tomorrow, and still have to share the territory, but you can lose the state as well ...

[protoss]

this "not today so tomorrow" has been stretching for centuries

[bratchanin3]

I think this is the right event.

[farcop]

And what is it, the public, as a mother and as a woman, does not brand shame? XXXIII (Vladimir) AU? There is a people who complies with Article 26, and you are not a gugu. And do not stigmatize, and do not mention the UN?

[FLOOD]

Quote: protoss

Turks do not smash Iraqi Kurds, in the RPK, the composition is mainly from natives of Turkey. Turkey has no special graters with Iraqi. Small Turkish military bases have been scattered over the territory of barzanistan for many years, which are quite suitable for the KDP.

The north of Iraq controls two Kurdish groups: the “Patriotic Union of Kurdistan” and the “Democratic Party of Kurdistan”, the war between them lasted until 1998. Moreover, the last force focuses on Turkey - the mortal enemy of the PKK. Moreover, oil from Iraqi Kurdistan enters the world market precisely through Turkish territory. And this is a very simplified picture of the current situation: today the Kurds are represented by almost fifty very different parties and partisan formations, often fiercely at odds with each other. Today, the two most influential Kurdish organizations - the PKK and the Democratic Party of Kurdistan - see the future of the territories they control in completely different ways. It is this antagonism that will largely determine the fate of the Kurdish people in the coming years.