Media: US plans to deploy THAAD ABM system in Germany

The United States offered to deploy THAAD missile defense systems in Germany. The site of the proposed location of THAAD is the territory of the American Rammstein Air Base in the south-west of Germany, reports Reuters. Officially, the motive of this step is called the need to strengthen the security of Europe from the threat from Iran’s ballistic missiles.

According to a source familiar with the situation, the United States has already begun preliminary negotiations regarding the air base, although Germany does not need permission from the United States to host the THAAD system on its territory. According to the agreements concluded, the United States has the right to place whatever they wish on the territory of the Rammstein air base. But even if the US decides to place the system at the air base, Germany will not be against it. Recall that at the airbase are also located the headquarters of the US Air Force Command in Europe and the Joint Command of the NATO Air Force.

The US Department of Defense does not comment on this information, nor confirming or disproving the fact of negotiations. The Pentagon said they did not discuss future military planning, but called Germany the closest of allies and partners.

Russia has a negative attitude towards the deployment of elements of the American missile defense system in Europe. The Russian Foreign Ministry has repeatedly stated that the THAAD systems are primarily aimed at deterring Russia.

THAAD is a ground-based anti-ballistic missile system designed to intercept short-range, mid-range and intermediate-range ballistic missiles.

Comments

[taiga2018]

as long as Russia and Iran are in the world, the US military-industrial complex will be in perfect order ...

[Grandfather Makar]

If so, then the Germans this time will not survive!

[taiga2018]

Quote: Ded-Makar

Germans

and other "allies" of the United States, for them just a consumable item on which you can also earn ...

[bulvas]

THAAD is a ground-based anti-ballistic missile system designed to intercept short-range, mid-range and intermediate-range ballistic missiles.

They are going to defend themselves from the Iskanders

[Vittt]

Quote: bulvas

THAAD is a ground-based anti-ballistic missile system designed to intercept short-range, mid-range and intermediate-range ballistic missiles.

They are going to defend themselves from the Iskanders

THAAD is the C-500, no matter who builds the face of the Blue Thief. Russia is behind. Fiercely makes up. With such a government you will forget about space.

[SETTGF]

Vittt! Do not show your ignorance! The S-500 is far superior to THAAD ... compare the range to begin with the minimum interception height! Russia is ahead of the rest - taught by bitter experience ...

[alexmach]

Yes, as if they are already on the list of priority goals. Tactical nuclear weapons are also stored there.

[APASUS]

Quote: Ded-Makar

If so, then the Germans this time will not survive!

The main thing is that the Americans have time to pay for the imposed systems, and whether they survive or not, the Americans do not bother!

[G A_2]

Quote: Ded-Makar

If so, then the Germans this time will not survive!

In a nuclear third world? Yes, not only the Germans.

[Paranoid50]

Quote: Ded-Makar

then the Germans this time will not survive!

Will survive. Only in the Volga region. And a little in Kazakhstan.

[svp67]

Quote: taiga2018

as long as Russia and Iran are in the world, the US military-industrial complex will be in perfect order ...

Well, what prevents us from organizing an “anti-piracy” coalition? And to set up a couple of bases on the American continent ... the "pirates" they are all penetrating, then there is a "Somali" variety, then "Sumerian"

[Thunderbolt]

Quote: alexmach

Yes, as if they are already on the list of priority goals. Tactical nuclear weapons are also stored there.

Before the war, they will disperse it at other airfields.

[svp67]

Quote: Thunderbolt

Before the war, they will disperse it at other airfields.

Something seems to me that this is the primary goal ... that nuclear weapons, that airfields, that carriers of nuclear weapons.

[dr.star75]

That's when they begin to disperse to other airfields, then it will begin. Our GSH also doesn’t slurp with cabbage soup.

[sabakina]

Quote: svp67

Something seems to me that this is the primary goal ... that nuclear weapons, that airfields, that carriers of nuclear weapons.

Sergey, I first learned about the US Air Force base from the movie Octopus. Cool all the same time was. They were afraid of each other, and the apartments were given for free, the work was heaps, I'm not talking about nurseries / kindergartens and education ...

[Paranoid50]

Quote: sabakina

I first learned about the US Air Force base from the movie Octopus.

What is characteristic when the film "Octopus" (1983) was released, in Rammstein (then the GDR) was the airfield of the USSR Air Force.

[Thunderbolt]

Quote: svp67

Something seems to me that this is the primary goal ... that nuclear weapons, that airfields, that carriers of nuclear weapons.

I understand, but who’s the primary goals? For Russia, whose peacetime army has neither a dream nor a spirit that needs to flee to the position (return from vacations or just from places of compact family residence, because the barracks position has not been announced?) I’m trying to to convey our main idea about the danger of mass concentration of heavy infantry by NATO near our borders and the numerical superiority in these areas of their sophisticated suppression and breakthrough air defense squadrons of the Air Force. It would seem, yes, Sergey, we have Iskander, and they are backed up all the power of the Strategic Missile Forces, boats, special-purpose ammunition. But 1.) Weakly believe that we will decide to deliver nuclear strikes at their key points in Europe first. Well, imagine that the degree of confrontation is incredibly increased, NATO exercises in Poland have been suspiciously dragged on, our border guards are starting to engage in skirmishes with their saboteurs, American transports are transporting 70.000 reservists of the National Guard through the Atlantic and that .... it’s time to take a shot "Iskander “or will it be necessary to fix the historical moment with binoculars when the first Bundeswehr infantryman crosses from Lithuania through Shesupe and then the team will go to all headquarters, is it time for them to smear with“ Iskanders “? shooting at NATO rear (because they try to keep the front as close as possible to our territory, the tactics of "grabbing a buckle" in its purest form).
In addition, it is customary to consider and threaten any threatening sign of NATO’s strengthening on our borders in the realities of today, when the President controls 100% of the country and the army, people go to work, and in the Caucasus, the AFU quietly and does not dare to start a major operation. I mean that political and economic wars are in full swing between us and the West, and in the area of ​​our interests on the Borderland since the time of Perestroika and developed Yeltsinism, a lot of smoldering hotbeds of war have been scattered. Naturally, these coals will inflate, and Russia It cannot be not involved. Therefore, it is one thing to assess the risks and threats from the strengthening of NATO forces on our borders in the present time. But in the case of playing negative scenarios inside Russia or directly in the CSTO (+ Transnistria), this will be a completely different situation, which means and the risks from NATO in the Baltic states will then increase. I understand perfectly well that since the times of the USSR, if we have, in fact, preserved in full, this is an algorithm passing a team from the Supreme High Command to all other links to strike at the enemy. But under the influence of a large-scale information war (not only in newspapers, but a multifaceted informational offensive), landmarks can change, terms and tasks can be blurred, national conflicts and civil wars break out. and our combat effectiveness should be considered, because the signs of an increase in the information war on the part of the enemy are obvious to me.

[asv363]

Dear Stormbreaker! I guess it's hard for me to give you an answer to all the questions. There is a concept of the use of a preventive strike by strategic nuclear forces, otherwise we will not have time to respond according to our internal protocol of the Yeltsin era. Therefore, we must warn the “partners” that we can hit first.

I am well acquainted with the Perimeter system, but due to a number of circumstances, part of the silos were also blown up there. Could take on a "tour" - but, to be honest, I need it ?!

Now the main thing is that we do not reduce the number of warheads as a result of some START-4, I saw his project. Equally important is the preservation of the number of launch vehicles and other infrastructure.

Information wars pose no potential danger.

[You Vlad]

Quote: Thunderbolt

Before the war, they will disperse it at other airfields.

For me, they understand that Kaliningrad is like a drift for them ... ... That's why they are trying, but this is pointless! In fact, we control the take-off.

[taiga2018]

Quote: svp67

Well, what is stopping us

finances, or rather straining with them, we now have, as it were, in the modern language, a trend toward solving internal problems ...

[NEXUS]

And this, of course, from the Iranian threat ... I’m wondering, if our Iskanders appear somewhere in Serbia, howling will be strong enough for the Martians to hear us?

[igorserg]

They have Iran as a threat, but ours? Americans, of course, conduct exercises to capture Kaliningrad, but we are civilized people. The United States for Russia, like Russia for the United States, cannot be a threat ... An urgent need is to look for a small enemy capable of launching ballistic missiles.

[NEXUS]

Quote: igorserg

They have Iran as a threat, but ours?

Will Guinea Bissau fit?

[igorserg]

.... and they threatened us?

[NEXUS]

Quote: igorserg

.... and they threatened us?

Of course ... and you do not know? And Handuras with the Papuans is developing nuclear weapons.

[igorserg]

Well then, there should be a number of places nearby and so that it is within reach of the territories of interest :)

[dr.star75]

Late and already inefficient to place bases there. Rather, nuclear bookmarks off the coast of a partner.

[123456789]

Quote: igorserg

They have Iran as a threat, but ours? Americans, of course, conduct exercises to capture Kaliningrad, but we are civilized people. The United States for Russia, like Russia for the United States, cannot be a threat ... An urgent need is to look for a small enemy capable of launching ballistic missiles.

Independent ..

[sabakina]

Quote: NEXUS

I’m wondering, if our Iskanders appear somewhere in Serbia, howling will be strong enough for the Martians to hear us?

Andryukha if you are still worried about the Martians that they will come to the aid of the mattresses, so to say, a couple of liters of good moonshine — and our Martian technologies! Main thing, do not overdo it with a dose!

[Graz]

oh, wait until the end of June 22, but our authorities will be afraid of a preventive strike

[thrush]

Quote: Graz

But our authorities are afraid of a preventive strike.

first, a suicide bomber to see who dares to start ..

[Heterocapsa]

Well, one person above the campaign is ready.

[123456789]

oh wait in the end on June 22

Three weeks left

[sabakina]

I didn’t understand how to dig in or wait?

[Heterocapsa]

Merkel don't give up. Be a man

[sabakina]

I’m afraid that this is not entirely Merkel ... There were a lot of names there, but one call sign: “Eustace” ...

[ANCIENT]

We are simply being provoked to launch a missile strike on the pro system in Europe! Our patience is also running out - Russia is surrounded brazenly by bases, massively drove weapons and equipment to Europe, and with a smirk look at our reaction! But now there is no such line when Europe and the United States calm down themselves, they provoke us, just like the Nazis in 1941! What then our patience led to, we still remember. ...

[Graz]

this time our authorities are also afraid

[igorserg]

that is yes. but then we would have delivered a preventive strike, and the real history, rather than the rewritten one, would have contained the country of the aggressor of the USSR, and the Hitler army might have wore flowers on the grave.

[asv363]

For example, in Ukraine and the Baltic states do not wear flowers?

[DMB_95]

Quote: ANCIENT

But now there is no such line when Europe and the United States calm down themselves, they provoke us, just like the Nazis in 1941! What then our patience led to, we still remember. ...

In modern conditions, no matter who starts the Third World War, there will be especially no one to recall from both sides.

[voyaka uh]

Equipment in Europe is regularly (once a year) driven by rotation. How many will drive, so much will be taken away. Altogether in Eastern Europe there are 4 NATO battalions plus one Amer. team in western Poland.
About 6 thousand people in total.

[My doctor]

Quote: ANCIENT

- just like the Nazis in 1941! What then our patience led to, we still remember. ...

This was a time of growth in industrial production in the USSR. The Nazis traded their most advanced vehicles, with the exception of aviation, without restrictions. How could they share the technology, the engineers did not hesitate to change them to Soviet raw materials. The USA also had an economic depression and they could also easily sell the whole plant to the Soviets.
In my opinion, the then leadership, seeing the threat of delaying the war, and all forces modernized production. But the war also made it possible to make an incredible technological leap due to Lend-Lease equipment.

[Sarmat Sanych]

I hope the nonschoolers and strip-ears understand that the Iskanders from Kaliningrad, despite the INF Treaty, will get them there too? And as usual so special warhead.

[Thunderbolt]

Quote: Sarmat Sanych

I hope the nonschoolers and strip-ears understand that the Iskanders from Kaliningrad, despite the INF Treaty, will get them there too? And as usual so special warhead.

They don’t understand at all --- they are pulling troops to our border and practicing deep raids and landing operations. This is one of two things:
or they’re very stupid and naive.
- they either feel the threshold of our use of nuclear weapons and before this time they want to have time to crush our defense and paralyze control (including nuclear forces).
Which option do you like ...?
P.S. The option that Americans want to earn by raising the degree of tension in Europe is not considered, because they invest much more than they earn from the sale of weapons and related items. For example, the complete modernization and transfer to Europe of their armored division alone (with subsequent maintenance) flies in a lot of money. And no Poles can cover these costs. And on one division they they’re unlikely to stop --- they will try to drag as many soldiers and equipment from the backwoods of the US as possible. Ground forces inside America are less equipped and combat-ready than troops at foreign bases. Therefore, they have a lot of means to sending them to invest abroad.

[123456789]

Therefore, they have a lot of money to invest in them

Run the printing press in the third shift

[Samara_63]

In the presence of hyper sound in Russia ... all this is nothing

[igorserg]

where to bullet this hypersound? it is most likely designed for aircraft carriers; it is expensive for the ground forces, and not enough.
If only right away on the Pentagon.

[123456789]

That is why, while only we have hypersonic weapons, we must immediately agree ... either the Yankees themselves leave Europe, or we return to it throughout the Netherlands

[izya top]

and they won’t even ask a decent one. and they don’t give a damn about civil protests, because the Yankees are not subject to local laws

[Lena Petrova]

Quote: igorserg

.... and they threatened us?

But they can, theoretically, in the future. You need to respond now.

[Comrade Ivanov]

It will not happen! Being a real man, Putin will tell Merkel that he will destroy Germany when the first missiles arrive! Our Putin is courageous and decisive!

[123456789]

Why then didn’t they take Tbilisi in 2008?

[Yak28]

Germany is already like a whore who was abused, well, much lower?

[gippernano]

Quote: taiga2018

as long as Russia and Iran are in the world, the US military-industrial complex will be in perfect order

If it is considered order, such prodigies such as F-35, Zumvolt, Relsotron, aircraft carrier such as "Gerald R. Ford," and so on, the same, then I'm for the order.
As for the Germans, this is a completely progamous nation, and they can rebel seriously. As I understand it, they were not asked again.

[Sarmat Sanych]

Quote: Thunderbolt

Quote: Sarmat Sanych

I hope the nonschoolers and strip-ears understand that the Iskanders from Kaliningrad, despite the INF Treaty, will get them there too? And as usual so special warhead.

They don’t understand at all --- they are pulling troops to our border and practicing deep raids and landing operations. This is one of two things:
or they’re very stupid and naive.
- they either feel the threshold of our use of nuclear weapons and before this time they want to have time to crush our defense and paralyze control (including nuclear forces).
Which option do you like ...?
P.S. The option that Americans want to earn by raising the degree of tension in Europe is not considered, because they invest much more than they earn from the sale of weapons and related items. For example, the complete modernization and transfer to Europe of their armored division alone (with subsequent maintenance) flies in a lot of money. And no Poles can cover these costs. And on one division they they’re unlikely to stop --- they will try to drag as many soldiers and equipment from the backwoods of the US as possible. Ground forces inside America are less equipped and combat-ready than troops at foreign bases. Therefore, they have a lot of means to sending them to invest abroad.

You are right about the threshold of application (this is generally a sacred mistake! Mantra) and about the degree of tension. But the main thing is not to let Europe go from its ticks, they are going to build their own European army of defense, but they can’t allow this in any way. As for paralyzing defense by nuclear forces, they will not succeed even theoretically; with the same success, we will paralyze control of their nuclear forces. And they, too, understand this, so the main goal is to press the geyropeyts stronger.

[voyaka uh]

THAAD knocks down ballistic missiles and warhead ICBMs on the descent. This is a system for the defense of objects.
She and put for the defense of NATO headquarters in the west of Germany, far from the borders of Russia.
This is a predictable response to Daggers.

[Beltasir matyagu]

The Germans are even sorry. 75 years of total occupation by the padlosaks. And reparations for the fabulous Lohokost invented in the 70s, while not a word about the genocide of the Slavs

[Zomanus]

Under the guise of missile defense, they can also deploy nuclear weapons,
if they do not need to report to Germany.
I already wrote that NATO is the American occupation corps in Europe.
Indeed, in fact, only the United States now in Europe has the most effective and efficient weapons.

[Passing by]

Quote: taiga2018

as long as Russia and Iran are in the world, the US military-industrial complex will be in perfect order ...

And if they are not (pah * 3), then they will come up with others)))

[vfvlasov]

The United States is very cunning, insidious deceivers, inject the Germans with a missile defense system that is effective only for old technologies. The US already has new technologies that make ICBMs invisible to radar! In Russia, there are also new technologies that make missiles invisible to US missile defense radars, for THAAD systems! But the main thing is to deceive the consumer, to vparit what he does not need and is useless! When it turns out that THAAD systems are blind and ineffective, how will the US explain itself to deceived and divorced Germans and others?