In the Rada offended by Germany: the interests of Ukraine "pushed" into the background

31 May 2018

The implementation of the Turkish Stream and Nord Stream-2 projects is economically unprofitable for Ukraine, a complete ban and prevention of construction is necessary, reports RIA News Statement by the Chairman of the Verkhovna Rada Committee Anna Gopko.

According to her, only one "Turkish stream" will take from Kiev 30-40 billion cubic meters per year. The remaining 50 billion will be taken by Nord Stream-2, which is what it was designed for.

Then it turns out that the Ukrainian pipe will not be needed at all, and this means that Ukraine remains without a lease,

said Gopko.

The deputy stressed that by participating in the Nord Stream, Berlin solves only its economic tasks, “pushing” Kiev’s interests into the background.

Earlier, the government of Germany stated that it’s time for Ukraine to stop criticizing Germany, since it makes sufficient efforts to ensure transit through Ukrainian territory.

They just asked us to take it easy.

Gopko noted.

However, Ukraine, according to her, can only agree on one compromise: “a complete ban and prevention of construction”, since this project is unprofitable for Kiev.

Recall, "Turkish Stream" involves the construction of 2-x gas pipeline, with a total capacity of 31,5 billion cubic meters per year. It will pass through the Black Sea to the European part of Turkey.

Nord Stream-2 will also consist of 2-x threads, with a total capacity of 55 billion cubic meters per year. Pipes will run under the Baltic Sea to Germany.

Russian President Vladimir Putin at a meeting with Chancellor Angela Merkel, which took place on May 18 in Sochi, noted that after the commissioning of Nord Stream-2, gas supplies to Europe through Ukraine will continue if they are economically justified.

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The black 31 May 2018 10: 50
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interests of Ukraine are “pushed into the background”
They were not pushed anywhere. Nobody ever thought about them.
1. Vend 31 May 2018 10: 54
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  Why Ukraine lease gas from the aggressor? In order to carry out a lease, partnerships are needed.
  1. maxim947 31 May 2018 11: 00
    
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    In Parliament offended by Germany ...
    
    They carry water on the offended)) Let them be offended, this is such a category that will always blame anyone, but not themselves, in all their troubles. Therefore, you will carry water and everything else that can be taken out.
    1. Shurik70 31 May 2018 21: 01
      
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      Well, what are you, Merkel, the last time I saw Putin, she stated in plain text "gas transit through Ukraine is very important for Germany." And only after that she signed documents on accelerating the commissioning of Nord Stream. So for Germany, Ukraine comes first. And only then the interests of Germany.
      https://ria.ru/economy/20180518/1520863713.html
  2. Major Yurik 31 May 2018 11: 18
    
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    Bulgaria:- I will buy a gas pipeline, used, inexpensively, pickup
    Ukraine:- What? And how much is inexpensive? We will sell or exchange for lard, but with the burden of the form of brainwashing in the future, and for life.
    1. bouncyhunter 31 May 2018 11: 24
      
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      Yuri, welcome!
      statement of the chairman of the Verkhovna Rada committee Anna Gopko
      
      Did I have one with her surname the "hopak" and "gopota" associations?
      1. venik 31 May 2018 16: 31
        
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        Did I have one with her surname the "hopak" and "gopota" associations? what
        
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        Strange ..... I have a "gop-stop" .......
        
        bouncyhunter 31 May 2018 16: 37
        
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        So "gopota" is a derivative of "gop-stop".
  3. Serge Gorely 31 May 2018 11: 34
    
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    The Negro Sheriff’s problems don’t ... care.
    1. kit88 31 May 2018 15: 14
      
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      What?! Have you already held these ?!
      Ah, well done!
    2. venik 31 May 2018 16: 36
      
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      Quote: Serge Gorely
      The Negro Sheriff’s problems don’t ... care.
      
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      A "continuation" ???
  4. Ren 31 May 2018 13: 01
    
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    Quote: Wend
    Why Ukraine lease gas from the aggressor? In order to carry out a lease, partnerships are needed.
    
    What do you mean why? It is necessary to preserve transit to Slovakia through Ukraine for the volume of gas that Ukraine will later buy from Slovakia.
    Gas route:
    Russia-Ukraine-Slovakia-Ukraine.
    There is a transit, but the Ukrainians will pay for it, but everything in business and all the conditions are met.
    1. Vend 31 May 2018 13: 16
      
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      Quote: Ren
      Quote: Wend
      Why Ukraine lease gas from the aggressor? In order to carry out a lease, partnerships are needed.
      
      What do you mean why? It is necessary to preserve transit to Slovakia through Ukraine for the volume of gas that Ukraine will later buy from Slovakia.
      Gas route:
      Russia-Ukraine-Slovakia-Ukraine.
      There is a transit, but the Ukrainians will pay for it, but everything in business and all the conditions are met.
      
      I think there are many who want even this piece of transit cake.
2. jjj 31 May 2018 10: 54
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  The whole charm of the situation is that Russia agreed with Germany that pumping around 20 billions of gas will be saved through Ukraine. And these are losses for the transit country. In this situation, Ukraine will no longer make money on transit, but pay extra for it.
  Well, you can wash your hands - transit through Ukraine has been saved! The President of Germany told Poroshenko about this
  1. Old anecdote 31 May 2018 12: 44
    
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    since this project is unprofitable for Kiev
    
    Sorry, I’m certainly not an economist, other areas are closer to me, but, spruce-burners, how can a project be unprofitable for a country that does not participate in it !!! I sit, suppose, on a stump near the road and beg for all who pass by. People get bored of this and they start to bypass me. Having realized this, I begin to scream that these bastards are pedestrians depriving me of profit and therefore they (pedestrians) must fill up that road and give me more alms. It seems to me that pedestrians after that will have to write me a star. I would do so.
    1. NKT 31 May 2018 13: 59
      
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      Why is she not participating? Compressors work, gas injection / lifting wells (UGS) - work. There is a global gas pipeline system that consumes gas / electricity and which needs to be maintained and maintained. It is clear that they are not making big capital investments right now, but nevertheless, for its functioning, money is needed, including salaries for simple working operators.
      1. Old anecdote 31 May 2018 14: 06
        
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        Why is she not participating?
        
        She does not participate in the "North" and "South" flows.
        
        NKT 31 May 2018 14: 39
        
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        She is not involved, but her gas transmission system, which was inherited from the USSR, is arranged in such a way that there is a branch across the country from transit (now) gas trunk pipelines. And since officials there are planning only a maximum for a year in advance, a drop in pressure to a certain level will put an end to the country's gas supply. We have already seen their share in the winter.
        She will lose not only money for transit, but she will have to invest significant amounts in order to completely reconstruct the country's gas transportation system. Therefore, she, indirectly, of course loses money and for her, any of our projects, bypassing her, is unprofitable.
        
        Old anecdote 31 May 2018 16: 58
        
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        You, I see, are also not an economist. What you are talking about is not DAMAGES OF OUR (not Ukraine) project. This is a loss of INCOME from transit. And the losses from operating YOUR GTS are a story not related to our gas pipelines. If their gas transportation system becomes unprofitable, let drown them with dung. Neither the Germans nor us care about this.
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      Well, we’re not evil, we won’t beat. We’ll just ignore it.
  2. Nyrobsky 31 May 2018 12: 57
    
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    The whole charm of the situation is that Russia has agreed with Germanythat through Ukraine will be saved pumping about 20 billion cubic meters of gas.
    But there is intrigue!))) Who will be the guarantor of uninterrupted transit? The signature of urcaine as a guarantor is clearly not considered. Russia will supply the agreed amount of gas to the point of delivery. This time, who will pay Urkaina for transit? Germany? She needs it, bear third-party financial costs in the presence of two Nordic streams? Probably, all the same, this Urkain asset in the form of a gas transportation system will first be maximally discounted due to complete unprofitability, and after it is bought by a third party for pennies, so that the Ukk handles could not even touch the gas valve in dreams, after which a gas pumping agreement will be concluded with the new owner . So the pipe lying on their territory will soon not belong to them at all and they will be offered a form of entertainment for a couple of hryvnias to put their ear to the pipe and listen to how the gas runs. Recover.
3. mr.Vain 31 May 2018 10: 55
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  The deputy stressed that by participating in the Nord Stream, Berlin solves only its economic tasks, “pushing” Kiev’s interests into the background.
  
  Ha ha ha !!! And they were naive, Germany came from the logic of its shirt closer to the body.
  1. conservative 31 May 2018 11: 00
    
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    Ukrainians have been entertaining me for years. truly funny guys in trousers and with an embroidered brain.
    
    But from the GTS of Ukraine can be laid out will be the world's largest trident of rusty pipes and be in the book of records
    
    and so they pandered after the Maidan. insane
4. Dezinto 31 May 2018 10: 58
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  This is some sort of megalomania. A global project is taking place, in which many countries are involved, a high-tech one, several lards that even Ukraine today does not even dream about in it ..... and it is like this: "so turn around because we don’t like it."
  Hospada yes who needs you sick now !?
  1. rocket757 31 May 2018 11: 09
    
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    The GDP expressed that transit would continue if it would be beneficial to us ... something like that!
    Let's see this ballet, that ballet too!
    1. Alex-a832 31 May 2018 14: 02
      
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      The GDP expressed that transit would continue if it would be beneficial to us ... something like that!
      Let's see this ballet, that ballet too!
      
      Victor, welcome
      A competitive market is what the EU promotes, that is, the purchase and sale prices in Ukraine should be comparable to the EU ones, about which they and the IMF have been rubbing for several years. Castellanaceae wanted to become part of the EU and live by its rules. Well, the idiot’s dream has come true, hold on, hawla. But suddenly they found that this lifestyle with the dream of "everyone should" is not combined. This "ballet" from the category of stupid American comedies - everything seems to be obvious, but GG stubbornly does not get it ...
      1. rocket757 31 May 2018 15: 22
        
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        Hi
        Yesterday, today I read. that with the prices of energy carriers of the IMF dill huckster has squeezed !!!
        Here on other points the controllers fly, which is an anti-corruption court and something else!
        Those. skin from jumpers and pan-legcoles to tear off. et please. we can still stick to their grabbing handles! But they will not let anyone count their huckster savings !!!
        Everything is shorter, dill can jump on!
  2. Ovsen 31 May 2018 12: 13
    
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    But there’s nothing to add
    
    Instead of China, read Germany
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    This will be the default. Because there is no help from the IMF and there is no transit, and there is nothing more to fill the budget with.
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Then it turns out that the Ukrainian pipe will not be needed at all, and this means that Ukraine remains without a rental, Gopko said.
The deputy stressed that by participating in the Nord Stream, Berlin solves only its economic tasks, “pushing” Kiev’s interests into the background.

... did come ... long neck, small thread ...
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  1. Masya masya 31 May 2018 11: 10
    
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    You were simply sent to ... or to .... only politely
Grandfather Makar 31 May 2018 10: 51
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Ukraine is in default and no one needs anyone except Russia! And we are waiting for the "fraternal" showdown behind closed doors .. And we must wait!
midshipman 31 May 2018 10: 52
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Well, the "bros" came to their senses. We understood where the world is going. I am glad that our President has made such a decision.
polpot 31 May 2018 10: 52
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They themselves chose a place at the bucket
Shrpv 31 May 2018 10: 53
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Relax the buns with try to have fun.
[quote] Then it turns out that the Ukrainian pipe will not be needed at all [quote]
Alexander Romanov 31 May 2018 10: 53
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Then it turns out that the Ukrainian pipe will not be needed at all, and this means that Ukraine remains without a lease,
Che is panicking there, all Ukrainian experts have long proved that the Nord Stream 2 will never be built.
1. impostor 31 May 2018 10: 57
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  The problem turned out with the bridge, so there really is a reason to fall into despair
  1. Alexander Romanov 31 May 2018 10: 59
    
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    There was a problem with the bridge,
    
    What are you talking about? Ukraine has already proclaimed that the bridge belongs to them. Just a couple of proposals and Zrad turns into the Great Peremoga.
    1. impostor 31 May 2018 11: 01
      
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      Initially, they referred to the engineering impossibility to pile piles, but how it turned out ...
      1. Alexander Romanov 31 May 2018 11: 07
        
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        Initially, they referred to the engineering impossibility to pile piles,
        
        Dear, these agents were paid by the Kremlin. Everything has already fallen into place.
        In a column on the Glavred website, Suslov recalled that in the 2014 year, when the construction of the bridge was only planned, many Ukrainian experts argued that this facility could not be built. The ex-minister also "exposed" this sect who did not believe in the Crimean bridge, saying that they were working for the Kremlin.
        
        "Obviously, these people were hired by the Kremlin in order to reassure the Ukrainian leadership, to instill the idea of the impossibility of building the Crimean bridge, so that Ukraine would not do anything to prevent this construction. http://ursa-tm.ru/forum/index.php?/topic/277280-n
        ashli-kraynego-na-ukraine-vyyasnili-kto-na-samom-
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But who needs this garbage dump, what the heck are interests, Ukrainian patriots need to get ready for the delivery of pipes for scrap, while their rust has not yet shaken.
impostor 31 May 2018 10: 56
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The Bulgarians also wanted a new pipe. Only now it will be at your own expense, if at all ...
dog breeder 31 May 2018 10: 58
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According to her, only one "Turkish stream" will take from Kiev 30-40 billion cubic meters per year. The remaining 50 billion will be taken by Nord Stream-2, which is what it was designed for.
Then it turns out that the Ukrainian pipe will not be needed at all, and this means that Ukraine remains without a lease,
Try to work!
KVU-NSVD 31 May 2018 11: 01
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The deputy stressed that by participating in the Nord Stream, Berlin solves only its economic tasks, “pushing” Kiev’s interests into the background.
This dependent ideology seeks - everyone owes us to the fact of our existence ... Many countries commit this sin, but no one can compare with the current Ukrainian authorities ... maybe only Lakhland ..
bankirchik34 31 May 2018 11: 09
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Svidomity fighting for the transportation of aggressor gas. Like schizophrenics, one hand beats the other.
Simon 31 May 2018 11: 10
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The interests of Ukraine are “pushed into the background”. --- Well, why the Kiev tried to fight with Russia? Russia bypassed Kiev from the rear, without a single shot Kiev lost the war economically! ...
Simon 31 May 2018 11: 13
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Quote: dog breeder
According to her, only one "Turkish stream" will take from Kiev 30-40 billion cubic meters per year. The remaining 50 billion will be taken by Nord Stream-2, which is what it was designed for.
Then it turns out that the Ukrainian pipe will not be needed at all, and this means that Ukraine remains without a lease,
Try to work!

The Ukrainian economy is already suffering after the "color revolution", and now it will collapse thoroughly!
Simon 31 May 2018 11: 17
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Quote: impostor
There was a problem with the bridge,

What are you talking about? Ukraine has already proclaimed that the bridge belongs to them. Just a couple of proposals and Zrad turns into the Great Peremoga.

Good help for Ukraine. Ukraine will only get rusty pipes, and the gas will get "cheap" European. Jumped!
sgr291158 31 May 2018 11: 18
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It was necessary to yell less. Now jump as much as you like.
Simon 31 May 2018 11: 18
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The Bulgarians also wanted a new pipe. Only now it will be at your own expense, if at all ...

Already seem to be allowed.
viktor. 31 May 2018 11: 29
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Then it turns out that the Ukrainian pipe will not be needed at all, You can, for example, use a pipe to cross the border into a geyropu, without customs inspection
Simon 31 May 2018 11: 32
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Ukrainians have been entertaining me for years. truly funny guys in trousers and with an embroidered brain.

But from the GTS of Ukraine can be laid out will be the world's largest trident of rusty pipes and be in the book of records

and so they pandered after the Maidan. insane

A monument will be good, and write on the tablet "The end of a gratuitous beautiful life, at the expense of the enemy of Russia!"
Opera 31 May 2018 11: 39
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In general, it’s interesting to watch how all our neighbors rush around Russia! The Germans are our eternal "partners" in the battlefield meticulously calculating the benefits of SP 2 and the Americans are not listening, the Bulgarians are crying to Putin in tears - forgive us older brother, deb ... unreasonable, Erdogan smiles affectionately, cautious about tomatoes and even non-square knights embroidered breasts protecting the shining European city on a hill from the kingdom of darkness suddenly became nervous - wait, wait ... Minuuuuuutku! But what about our transit?!?!?!
Wonderful are thy works, Lord!
Fitter65 31 May 2018 11: 47
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Ukraine, she said, can only agree to one compromise: "a complete ban and the prevention of construction," since this project is unprofitable for Kiev.

It seems that the country has 404, or rather, in its leadership, the progressive Mania of Greatness (namely with a capital letter), and this is past innate moronism. It’s the same if a homeless person comes to my garage from a garbage can and tells me which freshener to take to the salon, what gas station to take gas, what polish to take and the like. Well, after all, this is how it turns out. A natural rogue asks for alms, and even indicates that I should eat to give him more. Enchanting !!!
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  Rather, like this: a homeless person will creep into my garage, start eating my potatoes from my cellar and shout "When you put your car in the garage you pursue your own goals, and you put my interests in the background!"
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    No, it’s you describing the actions of the rusted bomber of a trump. And these constantly peeping in their pants, stinking like even a tolerant Europe is already turning its nose ... Although yes, there is only one principle of cutting, only the levels of greyhound vary. ..
freddyk 31 May 2018 12: 14
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You can understand Petyunya. How so? He protects the whole of Europe from Russian aggression. And such an attitude towards him. Abbyna, huh? So close to great disappointments.
K-50 31 May 2018 12: 17
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In the Rada offended by Germany: the interests of Ukraine "pushed" into the background

Heh, what a naive!
It would be funny, surprising and suspicious if Germany would put Urkaina's interests in front of her.
Forever their own shirt is closer to the body, and voters will not understand. These are not emigrants from BV countries.
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Would not spit in the well from which they drink. The power will change, the attitude towards Russia, then the pipe will work, I think purely for the needs of Ukraine, and such transit countries will be useless.
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  It will work. But already there will be no indulgences in the price.
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They were not pushed anywhere.

Previously, it was necessary to think to the panam-gentlemen-comrades from Ukraine ... The Springbok Dragonfly
Summer red sang;
I did not have time to look back
As winter rolls into my eyes .......... I had to think, but jump like dragonflies! The anthill does not accept!
Incvizitor 31 May 2018 14: 28
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Then it turns out that the Ukrainian pipe will not be needed at all
Then the whole 404 will not be needed ...
Sarmat Sanych 31 May 2018 14: 28
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The edge of the world is perceived as a bunch of excrement lying on the threshold of Russia. Americans periodically pick this heap with a stick to make it stink harder, and press the doorbell.
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Normal ok 31 May 2018 16: 11
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The implementation of the Turkish Stream and Nord Stream-2 projects is economically disadvantageous for Ukraine, a complete prohibition and prevention of construction is necessary, RIA Novosti reports the statement of the Chairman of the Verkhovna Rada Committee Anna Gopko.

The other day, Kiev began the process of compulsory collection of $ 2,6 billion dollars from Gazprom, by decision of the Stockholm arbitration. In this regard, Glas Trust Limited, which owns the shares of Nord Stream-2 AG, came under the distribution.
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The implementation of the Turkish Stream and Nord Stream-2 projects is economically disadvantageous for Ukraine, a complete prohibition and prevention of construction is necessary, RIA Novosti reports the statement of the Chairman of the Verkhovna Rada Committee Anna Gopko.

The other day, Kiev began the process of compulsory collection of $ 2,6 billion dollars from Gazprom, by decision of the Stockholm arbitration. In this regard, Glas Trust Limited, which owns the shares of Nord Stream-2 AG, came under the distribution.

This situation has repeatedly been legally laid out on the shelves. The debt collection court cannot arrest the shares of Gazprom subsidiaries, only the property of the parent company. Yes, and under the legal convention, which has been ratified by dozens of countries, including Switzerland, Gazprom can suspend by filing with the Swiss court the execution of the decision for the protest period, which the company has now filed with the Svea County court (Stockholm, Sweden). So the breakthrough of the Maydan people once again turned into harassment. And Naftogaz needs to get ready to pay off real debt, i.e., actually go bankrupt.
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Berlin, participating in the "Nord Stream" solves only its economic problems, "pushing" the interests of Kiev into the background

And really, what for me would I, if I were Chancellor of Germany, take into account the interests of Ukraine?
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Trusting Ukrainian boys. Spun your interests. And you seduced. We stayed with a broken trough.