Bulgarian Prime Minister: Russia does not hold evil for our disruption of South Stream

Bulgarian Prime Minister Boyko Borisov, following the country's president Rumen Radev, visited Russia, during a joint press conference with Vladimir Putin, made a remarkable statement on the South Stream gas pipeline. Recall that earlier official Sofia, stating that it supports anti-Russian sanctions, refused to participate in the project, which would ultimately lead gas from the Russian Federation directly to Bulgaria.

Now Boyko Borisov, who himself took a direct part in closing the South Stream project for Bulgaria, is asking Moscow to apologize for breaking the contract.

According to the Bulgarian prime minister, he is grateful to Russia for the fact that it "does not hold evil."

Borisov:

The eldest always forgives.

Vladimir Putin responded with irony as follows:

I am embarrassed to talk about who is the elder, who is the younger, because the elder is always encouraged to pay.

At the same time, the Russian president noted that after the Bulgarian refusal, Russia had entered into a negotiation process with Ankara. According to Vladimir Putin, Russia had to enter from the other side.

RIA News quotes the Russian president:

The loss of Gazprom due to the refusal to sell the gas pipeline directly from Russia to Bulgaria amounted to about 800 million euros.

According to Putin, Moscow regrets that Sofia herself went down this path. At the same time, the Russian leader added that the Turkish Stream gas pipeline could go through Bulgaria with one branch.

Recall that a few days ago, Bulgarian President Rumen Radev said that Sofia is interested in "direct" gas supplies from Russia.

And the train has already left ...

Comments

[Heterocapsa]

we ordinary citizens do not hold evil ... think of some loss of 800 million euros.

[Leeds]

Yes, we are generally famous for our short memory ...

[kyznets]

And here is the memory. This is economics and politics. Here the emotions are superfluous. It is only necessary to do what is beneficial to us. And it is beneficial for us that there are two branches. So that the Turkish version has an alternative, like the Bulgarian one. And it’s more difficult for them to play at a price, and two taps are better for us than one - twice.

[Yuyuka]

Quote: kyznets

And here is the memory. This is economics and politics. Here the emotions are superfluous. It is only necessary to do what is beneficial to us. And it is beneficial for us that there are two branches. So that the Turkish version has an alternative, like the Bulgarian one. And it’s more difficult for them to play at a price, and two taps are better for us than one - twice.

always touches "kindness" to others and "in all severity" to their
after all, "just" lost 800 million euros ... after such statements I would like to ask our "national-national" - forgive us at least in rubles, reduce the tariff of cents by 700

[Mestny]

“Lost” and “not earned” are two different things.

[krot]

These ten more times will set us up!

[-Pollux]

Quote: Mestny

“Lost” and “not earned” are two different things.

In this case, it was lost, the work has already begun, it is the costs already incurred.

[Maz]

Who remembers the old - that won’t look .... And who will forget, two. Muammar Gaddafi ate a pound of sand in the desert ... But good people said to him, they say, be human - remember good ... No zhezh, I decided to play with the titans alone ... I played. Where is that colonel now? ... where is that country? Where are his pennies?

[cost]

Maz : Who remembers the old - to that eye out

not an eye, but gas!
We now have Turks - brothers

[Old anecdote]

he is grateful to Russia for "not holding evil."

We do not hold evil, therefore we are ready to accept compensation for the failure of the contract and help (advice ) build a gas pipeline.

[BARHAN]

Power Machines received compensation for generators, turbines, and exciters for a nuclear power plant.

[Shurik70]

In Soviet times, the little brothers could give something for nothing, at the present time - with a minimal margin.
Turks - only with a standard mark-up.
And the Bulgarians - the train left. Cheaper than the Turks, we will not sell in transit through Turkey.
Evil - of course, we do not hold. But one must not forget either.

[antivirus]

in March, April Blgars sat on this site, preparing for visits? studied opinions?

REMEMBER ----- DRINKED EVERYTHING TOGETHER IN THE EVENING, AND HUNTED IN THE MORNING ALONE

[Lena Petrova]

Quote: Rich

We now have Turks - brothers

They are not so much bros as they think faster.

[the most important]

Quote: Rich

Maz: Whoever remembers the old is over there.
not an eye, but gas!

Why is the guest not on his knees? Strange ... for howling stupidity you need to ask for forgiveness on your knees.

[New Year day]

Quote: the most important

Strange ... for howling stupidity you need to ask for forgiveness on your knees.

or maybe he is saving the GDP? Erdogan refused the 2nd branch, and gas must be delivered to the EU. Because the Bulgarian and arrived, the situation is stalemate for Russia. So they understood each other from a distance

[raw174]

Quote: Silvestr

or maybe he is saving the GDP? Erdogan refused the 2nd branch, and gas must be delivered to the EU.

This is necessary for the EU as well as for us, and the Bulgarians probably figured it out on the accounts, realized that they had spoiled the fever and went to the GDP ...
There is no emotion, a clean economy, numbers and all. As they say, we have a product, you have a merchant. You need to throw a pipe, don’t say it, but the EU depends on the Russian Federation energetically.

[major147]

Quote: Silvestr

Quote: the most important

Strange ... for howling stupidity you need to ask for forgiveness on your knees.

or maybe he is saving the GDP? Erdogan refused the 2nd branch, and gas must be delivered to the EU. Because the Bulgarian and arrived, the situation is stalemate for Russia. So they understood each other from a distance

It seems that the difficult years in isolation from Russia were diminished by the arrogance of the clinical Russophobe Mr. Borisov, through whose efforts Bulgaria to bury large infrastructure projects jointly with Russia for the sake of the “senior partners” in the European Union: the construction of the Belene NPP, the South Stream and the Burgas-Alexandroupolis oil pipeline, and also for a long time delayed the modernization of the MiG-29 fighters of the Bulgarian Air Force, which was part of the plans of the current President of Bulgaria Rumen Radev.

And not just buried. Bulgaria had to pay a forfeit of € 600 million for rejecting the already launched South Stream project, without receiving any compensation from Brussels. The loss of profit amounted to € 500 million per year, direct investment - at least $ 3 billion, not to mention tens of thousands of jobs.



Bulgaria received the hole from the donut from the EU and for supporting the killer sanctions against Russia for reunification with Crimea. After four years of pleasant spells “Crimea-tse Ukraine”, pleasant for Poroshenko’s ear, Bulgaria didn’t even earn money on lard.

It remains only to lick their lips and watch as Russia pulls a gas pipeline to Turkey bypassing Bulgaria and builds Akkuyu NPP.

The problem is that the Bulgarian president is rather a decorative figure, like the Queen of Great Britain Baba Lisa, who reigns, adorns, but does not rule. Bulgaria is a parliamentary republic in which power is concentrated in the hands of the prime minister, who is carrying out the will of the ruling liberal party, Russophobia bruised all over his head.

It turns out that President Radev made a recent visit to Sochi to build bridges with Russia, because there is nowhere to go further down the path of suicidal Russophobia in Bulgaria.

It is noteworthy that the current visit of Bulgarian Prime Minister Borisov to Russia is the first in his political career.

It must be assumed that in Sofia they gathered for a long time with the spirit for such a decisive step, wisely using the political situation and doing some work on the mistakes. So, Bulgaria did not follow the lead of Great Britain without expelling a single Russian diplomat in the “Skripals case”. Bulgaria opposed Romania’s initiative to create a united NATO flotilla on the Black Sea. Bulgaria still decided to repair and modernize its MiG-29s in Russia.

Perhaps the most significant of the steps taken by Bulgaria towards Russia should be regarded as the failure of plans to create a joint NATO flotilla. This would allow the Alliance to constantly keep in the Black Sea a large group of warships, bypassing the Montreux doctrine. Moreover, the Ukrainian nedoflot would have necessarily attached itself to the NATO flotilla, which was repeatedly discussed in Kiev.



Thus, Prime Minister Borisov did not come empty-handed to negotiate with Putin, trying to hop onto the last car of the outgoing train.

As is usual in such cases, the leaders of the states recalled all the common and good things that exist between Russia and Bulgaria: Slavic writing, cultural exchange, productive interaction of special services in countering international terrorism. They even recalled the recent round date - the 140th anniversary of the liberation of Bulgaria from the Ottoman yoke, leaving behind the brackets the demonstrative demarche of the Bulgarian leadership, which refused to recognize Russia's merit.

Borisov cautiously threw a fishing rod about Russia's use of the Bulgarian tourism and agricultural potential, smoothly moving on to the topic of rusting pipes from the South Stream in the port of Varna.

Bulgaria has no chance to crash into the already laid branch of the Turkish Stream, but in Sofia they learned about the construction of the second string along the bottom of the Black Sea and gathered to try their luck to persuade the Russian leadership to bend the pipe to the Bulgarian coast, cherishing the hope of resuscitation of the South Stream.

So far, Bulgaria has received the go-ahead for supplying Russian gas from Turkish territory with Erdogan’s complete non-resistance. Nevertheless, there is an opinion that it will be beneficial for Russia from all points of view, including diversification of supplies, to consider the Bulgarian proposal, but on less generous terms than before.

Bulgaria has been and remains 100% a consumer of Russian gas. It is important for Russia to have a Bulgarian gas hub for the construction of a trunk line to Serbia, Hungary, Austria and northern Italy along the shortest route. But for this she will need guarantees from the Bulgarian side. Once already burned.

Despite the statement by presidential spokesman Peskov that Russia is ready to consider the construction of a separate gas pipeline to Bulgaria, there is a feeling that the South Stream train nevertheless slipped past the Bulgarians’s nose.



Just three days ago, Gazprom granted Turkey a gas discount of 2015–2016 for $ 1 billion in retroactive payments in exchange for laying the second branch in Turkish territory. Where - is still unknown. Perhaps to Bulgaria. That is, if Russia will consider the Bulgarian option, then not earlier than the completion of the construction of the Turkish branch.

Boyko Borisov was bowed before Putin for the awkward situation with South Stream. It turned out that Gazprom did not demand from Bulgaria € 800 million for the platforms delivered to the port of Burgas from the Italian contractor Saipem, preferring to deal with the court on their own.

“I am very grateful that they do not hold evil on us about this. But the elders - they are always big and always forgiving, ”Boyko Borisov flashed his tail flatteringly.

“I’m very embarrassed about who’s the eldest, who’s the youngest, bearing in mind that the elder is always encouraged to pay,” Putin's former intelligence officer cleverly answered.

Bulgaria has been given homework for adults: to find investments and to develop the Bulgarian network of gas pipelines that take gas from the Turkish Stream for further supplies to Serbia. Gazprom does not intend to invest in the Bulgarian system, offering to develop it independently, with the help of the state-owned company Bulgartransgaz or at the expense of the European Commission. This is a guarantee for the future resuscitation of the South Stream.

Let's hope that the stored pipes in the port of Burgas do not completely rust by the time Bulgaria completes the work on the bugs.

No less interesting is the cooperation of Sofia with Kiev. True, in this case, the interaction is more like staging the theater of the absurd, because, as you know, with whom you will lead - the way you need it.

Three days before the visit to Putin, Boyko Borisov met with Poroshenko, agreeing to resume a joint infrastructure megaproject - the construction of a highway from Reni (Ukraine) to Varna (Bulgaria).

You can’t say anything, the application is ambitious. Firstly, not far. Secondly, it’s not easy. Thirdly, expensive. The mere construction of bridges across large rivers is a serious engineering challenge. But in addition to the rivers you have to punch tunnels through the mountains, which is also, to put it mildly, difficult. There are still a lot of questions, such as providing the project with materiel and personnel, but let's not quibble too much.

But there is a nuance. Suddenly, no one asked Romania lying between Ukraine and Bulgaria. But it would be worth it. Given the difficult experience of the past, even the USSR was not able to obtain permission from the obstinate Ceausescu permission to lay a railway to Bulgaria through Romanian territory, although, if you think about it, the benefits for all parties from the implementation of this project are obvious. So they dragged goods from Ilyichevsk to Varna and back by sea ferries.

Another nuance. Where is the money, Zin? Even if the high contracting parties enlisted the support of the Romanian government, the funding sources for the pathos highway were hidden behind a dense veil of fog. Certainly, the impoverished Ukraine and very poor Bulgaria do not have the means to implement their plans.



However, Poroshenko and Borisov sent a signal that they were glad to see the EU as a sponsor and participant in the project. In the process, they also remembered Romania, having invited her to finance a great undertaking. Borisov promised to take on the negotiations with the Romanians.

Of course, the EU (if desired) could take on both the costs and the hassle of breaking consumer money, but does it need this highway on the outskirts of Europe? Judging by the zero reaction from Brussels, we need a stop signal like a hare.

It is also interesting that Poroshenko, referring to the "resumption of the project", elegantly sawed Odessa out of it. In 2015, the issue was considered more broadly: the route was supposed to be built by Odessa - Reni - Varna. The trick is that the Odessa-Reni route section remained dotted on the map, although Kiev allocated money for it. It’s just that they were “creatively mastered” by Petya and then by his friend Mikhuil S., who was planted in Odessa to grimace and portray the governor. It is a shame and danger to mention Odessa, asking for money in the EU. So I had to cut the sturgeon.

If Borisov’s position, repeatedly offended by the EU and wishing to somehow compensate for the damage caused to his country, is understandable, then the adhering Poroshenko has long proved everything and is eager to stick a parasite to the European boobs. Was it worth it to mess about a freak, starting a Russian U-turn?

[Tank hard]

Quote: Maz

Muammar Gaddafi ate a pound of sand in the desert ..

Gaddafi was, of course, a rare g ... (radish). But an example is instructive.

[mr.Vain]

Bulgarians, they are such Bulgarians ..

[Allitet]

It was necessary to tell him, as in "Gentlemen of Fortune": "I told you, I warned you, but now do not be offended!" Now Bulgaria will have to pay the Turkish Republic for transit and will pay much more than 800 million, and Germany should think about looking at Bulgaria. Apparently the closer to the completion of the "Turkish Stream", the more visitors there will be! And Vladimir Vladimirovich should be congratulated for the "Turkish stream", for the Crimean bridge and the "Nord Stream-2". Perseverance and work - all will grind! It is what it is!

[antivirus]

it would be better if they learned to drive reindeer teams than to congratulate them. here is the real benefit to us in the north

[helmi8]

Quote: Heterocapsa

we ordinary citizens do not hold evil ... think of some loss of 800 million euros.

Yes, what are we worried about, we’ve gotten used to the constant scam from the side of the once “brothers” ...

The eldest always forgives.

Yeah, at one time the Elder Brother forgave so many debts (and continues to do so now) that if they were to return them all ............ Okay, what to dream there, they will plunder anyway ...

[bouncyhunter]

Sergei

he is grateful to Russia for “not holding evil”

"I'm not vindictive: I'm just angry and I have a good memory." (from)

[ANCIENT]

Paul a hundred pounds, we need on this principle with some Bulgarians, Ukrainians, Poles, Turks to communicate! !!

[bouncyhunter]

Vitalich, hello! Yes, many are worthy of such an attitude from Russia ...

[helmi8]

Greetings Paul! I just can’t understand - we are no longer stepping on a rake, we are dancing on them. How long? Before whom are we beads with a sword? As for me personally - I'm not vindictive, I'm already just angry.

[bouncyhunter]

I myself don’t understand much, but this is happening ... Politicians have their own dispositions about which we are not supposed to know (they didn’t come out with a snout), and our opinion only disturbs them.

Quote: helmi8

As for me personally - I'm not vindictive, I'm already just angry.

I share emotions, but so far I restrain myself ...

[Lena Petrova]

Well, you can set the condition that in 5 years then this money will be returned from transit. If not balabol, then they will agree.

[Vita vko]

Quote: Heterocapsa

losses of 800 million euros

these are just direct losses from the difference in the cost of the Turkish and South Stream projects. Indirect and long-term losses associated with transit conditions through Turkey are an order of magnitude greater. Fortunately, most of these losses will be paid by the EU and Bulgaria as well.

[Geosun]

And on the other hand, we would still not see this money.

[New Year day]

Quote: Geosun

And on the other hand, we would still not see this money.

With such a policy, we will never see money.
In 2016-2017, Russia wrote off debts to four countries - Kyrgyzstan, Mozambique, Uzbekistan and Mongolia - by almost 1,4 billion dollars (about 80 billion rubles). At the same time, the country's own not yet closed total external debt in 2017 grew by $ 23,3 billion (4,5 percent) and amounted to $ 1 billion as of October 537,5.

It reminds us something of the USSR - the megalomania of the leadership, we forgive everyone, the children of the leaders look at Europe, and the government is aging and fooling from narcissism.

[cariperpaint]

It is possible and often necessary to forgive debts. These are not one-sided steps. For this, they always get something. As for external debt, it is about 15 percent of GDP. To the guard as to the moon on foot. Everyone has debts, but ours are extremely small by world standards. In fact, these debts of enterprises are for the most part. They will work fine, calmly pay.

[Yuyuka]

It is possible and often necessary to forgive debts.

fully support! here you can’t forgive yours for no reason - they’ll sit on your neck

[sergo1914]

Quote: Geosun

And on the other hand, we would still not see this money.

Why? look here. Only the top two rows from the pallet must be removed

[Gargantua]

Quote: Heterocapsa

we ordinary citizens do not hold evil ... think of some loss of 800 million euros.

We don’t feel sorry, now we will raise gas prices for the population to 60 rubles and for a year we will collect a couple of such scammers

[Graz]

they can be taken from the political agenda in the EU, ours will be fools if they don’t get the EU through the Bulgarians, you need to press and demand from the Bulgarians the wiring for interests, if you want to complete the nuclear power plant and branch the gas pipeline to yourself

[jetfors_84]

Gazprom probably compensated them ............ at our expense

[Nyrobsky]

Quote: Heterocapsa

we ordinary citizens do not hold evil ... think of some loss of 800 million euros.

There is some omission from the author of the note. Bulgaria for its cant completely paid the loss of Gazprom, in connection with which there were jokes about the strangeness of the Bulgarian business imprisoned for the payment of forfeit under the concluded agreements. A thing of the past. But something suggests that during the construction of the Turkish Stream, so that Turkey would not single-handedly hold the trump card of a privileged transit country and compost the brains of Europe and Russia in the image of Urkaina, a gas pipeline from Russia through Bulgaria would still be laid in the future. But the brains of the “little brothers” on this topic are riveted so that they draw a ditch under the pipe with buckets in the sea.

[thinker]

You confuse with another construction site - Belene NPP
Atomstroyexport (an external economic engineering company of the state corporation Rosatom) was compensated for a loss of 620 million euros.
“Gazprom’s total losses due to the abandonment of South Stream amounted to approximately € 800 million. Well, they wrote it off at a loss"Putin said.
https://ria.ru/economy/20180524/1521264901.html

[Nyrobsky]

Quote: thinker

You are confusing it with another construction site - Belene NPP Atomstroyexport (the foreign economic engineering company of the state corporation Rosatom) compensated for damage of 620 million euros. “Gazprom’s total losses due to the abandonment of South Stream amounted to approximately € 800 million. Well, they wrote off this at a loss, ”Putin said.
https://ria.ru/economy/20180524/1521264901.html

Your truth. Ready to admit your cant. Although I doubt that the issue of compensation for the lost amount will not be discussed if the issue of laying the Bulgarian gas pipeline route is considered, despite the fact that the Bulgarians are more interested in its implementation today.

[Krasnoyarsk]

Quote: Heterocapsa

we ordinary citizens do not hold evil ... think of some loss of 800 million euros.

Those. You want to say that Gazprom will forgive Bulgaria for these 800 million European Tugriks?

[dauria]

Gazprom will forgive Bulgaria these 800 million ..?

Of course not. Gazprom is not Russia, but a joint-stock company. 49% owned by the USA, Germany (and even Madame Baturina-Luzhkova in the form of 1%). Try asking them for forgiveness of duty. And if you take into account that the state bank has a blocking (not controlling) block of shares ....

[New Year day]

Quote: dauria

Gazprom is not Russia, but a joint-stock company. 49% owned by the USA, Germany (and even Madame Baturina-Luzhkova in the form of 1%).

«The process of enforcing the recovery of $ 2,6 billion from Gazprom has shifted to the practical plane ”, - the agency quotes the press service of Poroshenko.

The Ukrainian president also announced the start of the “encumbrance of shares” of Gazprom’s assets in European countries.

In a Russian gas holding have confirmed the start of Naftogaz debt collection procedures. At the same time, Gazprom noted that the company did not receive any official notifications about this process.
And you say, the Americans!

The Stockholm arbitration ordered the Russian company to pay a fine of $ 2,6 billion to Naftogaz and pump at least 2018 billion cubic meters of blue fuel annually through Ukraine through 2019-110.

[Krasnoyarsk]

Quote: dauria

Gazprom will forgive Bulgaria these 800 million ..?

Of course not. Gazprom is not Russia, but a joint-stock company. 49% owned by the USA, Germany (and even Madame Baturina-Luzhkova in the form of 1%). Try asking them for forgiveness of duty. And if you take into account that the state bank has a blocking (not controlling) block of shares ....

Well then, I'm calm. Not that Russia has only 38% of the shares. And the fact that the Bulgarians will be punished. So that others might be discouraged.

[dSK]

Quote: Krasnoyarsk

So that others might be discouraged.

Borisov: "The elder always forgives."

Bulgarians made their choice they have now older brothers - EU and NATO. And they will not forgive a cent, you have to pay "in full".

[Krasnoyarsk]

Quote from dsk

Quote: Krasnoyarsk

So that others might be discouraged.

Borisov: "The elder always forgives."

Bulgarians made their choice they have now older brothers - EU and NATO. And they will not forgive a cent, you have to pay "in full".

I don’t give a damn that they will pay the EU and NATO there. I need them to pay Gazprom, i.e. 38% of 800 Eurobaks should cross Russia.

[New Year day]

Quote from dsk

Gazprom wants to increase gas sales in the domestic market?

no, he wants to increase the price of connection

[siberalt]

But do not keep evil. Government relations are not personal. And if personal, then not state at all. No law is intended for conscience or emotion. And the rest is a divorce for suckers.

[Vend]

Quote: Heterocapsa

we ordinary citizens do not hold evil ... think of some loss of 800 million euros.

Yes, we don’t hold, everything is written down with us. Think of 800 million euros, the Turkish branch will go through Bulgaria to 800 mil euros will be more expensive for Bulgaria.

[Dezinto]

Changing shoes on the fly.

[ANCIENT]

If they only changed their shoes, they would change their orientation in flight! !!

[New Year day]

Quote: ANCIENT

so they change their orientation in flight! !!

well no. build a stream and behave like brother Erdoganchik

[credo]

Quote: DEZINTO

Changing shoes on the fly.

Yes, this is not the first time for them.
After their liberation by Russia in the 19th century, twice in the 20th century, in two world wars, they were in coalitions against Russia and the USSR, and now they continued the same tradition in century 21 by joining NATO and an anti-Russian company.
Like a whore, no pride or gratitude.

[polpot]

The president, in his style, threw the candy to the Bulgarians, he hastened Germany with a joint venture -2, he stepped over the ukraines with transit, well done chess player

[Gargantua]

Hmm, the Russians threw at 800 Baku, and Putin did well. "Wonderful you peasant children"

[Crimean]

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Gargantua (Pankrat) Today, 20:34 ↑ New
Hmm, the Russians threw at 800 Baku, and Putin did well. "Wonderful you peasant children"

Yes, for those who repeat in an armored train - they returned the money. You can’t throw a fool at a fan. Sadness

[New Year day]

Quote: Crimean

money back.

Do not tell me, when and for what? The "Bulgarian stream" Russia had to build at its own expense.
October 01 2012:
Gazprom may finance the Bulgarian part of the South Stream gas pipeline in future payments for transit. The source explained that difficulties arose, inter alia, because the Bolagra side did not have the funds to finance its part of the South Stream. It is assumed that the construction will be paid on the terms of project financing - that is, 30% of participants ’funds and 70% of bank funds. However, due to a shortage of funds from Bulgaria, Gazprom may take on all the financing from the project participants in respect of future payments for transit through the Bulgarian section.
https://1prime.ru/News/20121001/757252500.html
Do not tell me, what Bulgaria returned to Russia, if it was not going to finance the construction?

[Gargantua]

Who was returned to? When did you return? Why didn’t they report to Putin?

[credo]

Quote: Gargantua

Hmm, the Russians threw at 800 Baku, and Putin did well. "Wonderful you peasant children"

Do not prematurely raise a panic and cry. The play "South Stream" is not over yet, and as you can see in full swing and apparently the EU will have to pay the bills.

[NF68]

Yeah. These brothers are good.

[NN52]

"Brothers" to whom?
Can you clarify?

[NF68]

Quote: NN52

"Brothers" to whom?
Can you clarify?

Yes to the Slavs. Including those living in the territory of the former USSR.

[NN52]

Well, you can say it's protected ...
Gypsies are also Slavs ...

[NF68]

Quote: NN52

Well, you can say it's protected ...
Gypsies are also Slavs ...

And now feel better?

[Zubr]

There were brothers to us Russian, became potential partners. The question of morality is open. As they say, a betrayer once, betray and twice. By the way, these are the words of Peter the Great when he executed the Cossack chieftain Kondraty Bulavin, who passed him over, and these were his closest associates.

[dSK]

Quote: Zubr

There were brothers to us Russian, became potential partners. The question of morality is open.

They are not pagans, co-religionists, for them: "Do not avenge yourself, but give place to the wrath of God. For it is written: Vengeance shall be given me back, Az says the Lord. " (Romans St. Paul 12:19)

[Zubr]

Oh father, I'm not strong in theology.
Now explain to me what this means: "Do not avenge yourself, but give a place to the wrath of God."
Here, as I understand it, they wanted to fool us, but it turns out they threw themselves.

For it is written: Vengeance is mine, I will repay, saith the Lord. "(The Epistle to the Romans of the Holy Apostle Paul 12: 19)

But this proposal I can’t add in any way readable ..

[dSK]

Vladimir Vladimirovich is acting in a Christian manner, but he did not invoice Bulgaria for 800 million euros. "Well, they wrote it off at a loss," Putin said. They will think it over, consider the losses, choose the appropriate rulers - Russia will make a sea "withdrawal" in the direction of Bulgaria - Serbia, and Turkey will not be a "transit" monopolist. And Russia will never be at enmity with the Bulgarians.

[Zubr]

This is true, we will not quarrel, we have enough of our economic concerns. But the unpleasant residue remained.

[StVahmistr]

By the way, these are the words of Peter the Great when he executed the Cossack chieftain Kondraty Bulavin, who passed him over, and these were his closest associates.

Hmm .... Putin is far from him ....

[NF68]

Quote: Zubr

There were brothers to us Russian, became potential partners.

Muddy are partners. A little shouted at them from behind the ocean, they began to weird themselves into harm.

[Severomor]

Quote: NF68

Yeah. These brothers are good.

"Brothers" !!! Everything according to Dostoevsky)))

[NF68]

Quote: Severomor

Quote: NF68

Yeah. These brothers are good.

"Brothers" !!! Everything according to Dostoevsky)))

But what about. Only on them from overseas they did not shout a lot, and that’s all. They hid like a dog in a kennel. And then for some reason they got smarter. When the train has already left.

[Zubr]

I understand your sarcasm ..

[NF68]

Quote: Zubr

I understand your sarcasm ..

Now they themselves understood this. Yes, the train has already left. Or is there still the opportunity to stretch the land section of the pipeline through the territory of Bulgaria?

[rhd]

To the bros (whether) -bulgars, it was necessary to make such questions to the national council ... Then there would be no sense of lost happiness!

[Masya masya]

we don’t remember evil ... we write it down ...

[onix757]

Have the Turks already been given a lard of greens for gas or later?

[ANCIENT]

Get comfortable with three times, or even five. ... Knowing how good we are. ..

[Comrade Ivanov]

"And the train has already left ..."

Gone ... through Bulgaria. There is no other way. Now Gazprom will pay for transit to both Turkey and Bulgaria, and Putin can buy a geographical map and study it.

[tagil]

Explore do not worry. But the limit of trust for people like you in Russia is over. You need gas, build the branch yourself as you want at your own expense, there will be gas. No, well, no.

[New Year day]

Quote: Tagil

We need gas, build the branch yourself as you want at your own expense, there will be gas. No, well, no.

Gazprom Deputy Chairman Andrei Kruglov:
“The costs of the Turkish Stream will most likely fall to the company - it has not yet succeeded in attracting funds from foreign banks and is unlikely to succeed. Based on the existing reality, the Turkish Stream will most likely be financed from the budget of Gazprom from the very beginning.
So who needs gas and who pays for it? Really Turks?

[Anatole Klim]

Quote: Comrade Ivanov

Now Gazprom will pay for transit to both Turkey and Bulgaria

The transit will be paid by the final consumer, including the Bulgarians, no one will supply gas at a loss, everything will be laid down in the gas price, and it finally dawned on your prime minister that the rejection of the South Stream was a strategic mistake, let him take a calculator and calculate how much Bulgaria has pumped billions from its mistake and how much gas will now be more expensive for the Bulgarians.

[bk316]

Now Gazprom will pay for transit to Turkey

Yes, no "tovarisch" you will now buy gas from Greater Turkey. But how is it not our business to agree.

[-Pollux]

Quote: Comrade Ivanov

Gone ... through Bulgaria.

Quote: Comrade Ivanov

Putin can buy a map and study it.

And where do you think the pipeline from Turkey through Bulgaria will go? Did you see the map of Europe in your eyes?

[bk316]

Did you see the map of Europe in your eyes?

Saw. Look, you have already laid out.

[Heterocapsa]

don’t cry. This is a penny for Gazprom compared to profit.

[Ros 56]

Now Gazprom will pay for transit to both Turkey and Bulgaria,

We do not have opportunities, you need to build, By the way, 800 lyam greens when you return?

[Senior seaman]

There is such an option, but, frankly, there is little chance that Greece and Italy (blue) will prefer the line through Bulgaria (red).

[faterdom]

Goodbye. And Bulgaria in Turkey is connecting. And at the same time let them beg for a discount. In connection with the difficult financial situation.
And we will see.

[Simon]

Woke up!

[Heterocapsa]

It seems to me that this month is simply unprecedented in the number of visiting presidents and delegations to Russia.
I think this is not only about gas.

[Paranoid50]

Quote: Heterocapsa

I think this is not only about gas.

Apparently, the "Direct Line with Putin" exists not only for Russian citizens.

[Opera]

I have not seen such humiliation at the international level for a long time, and indeed, I don’t remember something! I don’t even know what kind of sensation the Bulgarian leader makes this babble ?! Remember the recent brave reasoning on the VO of Bulgarian commentators! One thing I can say about myself, these people have spoiled seriously and for a long time! To put it mildly. I wrote a comment and picked up words ... Today is somehow unpleasant - Babchenko ..., stupid SBUshniki, apologizing Bulgarians ...

[thrush]

Quote: Oper

Remember the recent brave arguments on the VO of Bulgarian commentators!

yes there was such a thing .. now I’ll rummage even at the sparrow in the archive .. there were so ardent little brothers. and about the flow and about the Belene NPP .. if not too lazy to dig there a lot then lay out.

[NN52]

Al Iskander

Is it worth digging into the archive?

[thrush]

Quote: NN52

Is it worth digging into the archive?

perhaps you’re right .. opened your eyes .. well, well ..

[ANCIENT]

Sometimes, words can’t be picked up, but there’s only mat on your mind! ! Moreover, recently the mat comes to mind many times more than normal words! !!

[Comrade Ivanov]

Boyko Borisov is a thief, but also a good psychologist. He helped Putin get out of the difficult situation he was in. Without Bulgaria there is no Turkish stream. The pipes stop at the Bulgarian border, and Putin watches TANAP continue for the EU. Now Russia will have to pay for the service. As always.

[thrush]

Quote: Comrade Ivanov

Now Russia will have to pay for the service. As always.

dear, you are my brother ... if you have not yet learned that the Russians will then take your money back to your love .. well .. these are your difficulties .. with the Belyans? are we building?

[Opera]

These buffoons generally do not need to pay any attention whatsoever! Indeed, even now there is no gloating. Squeamishness. I’ll go wash my hands or something ...

[thrush]

Quote: Oper

I'll go wash my hands or something.

I also probably disinfect the body ..

[Tersky]

Quote: thrush

I also probably disinfect the body ..

Judging by the number of quacks of former "comrades" on the treasury and friendship of Russia is not worth it, you can sleep Hi migrant !

[thrush]

Quote: Tersky

Hi migrant

Hello Vit ..

[New Year day]

Quote: thrush

if you have not yet learned that the Russians then take their money away

give examples!
But with the financial losses easier, do not count.

This is for starters ....

[Comrade Ivanov]

Forgive the strangers, but forgot your brothers?!? Shame somehow!

[thrush]

Quote: comrade Ivanov

Forgive the strangers, but forgot your brothers?!? Shame somehow!

Do not deserve ... You .. Vyzhivaetsya a lot and paint over the monuments

[thrush]

I'm wildly sorry. what money do you want with destroyed Libya. Iraq although Iraq now relies on Russian weapons and buys .. cuba is a separate issue .. there Russia behaved filthy betraying them .. maybe there is a fee for loyalty? We will not touch Kyrgyzstan and Uzbekistan davatte too .. some have our military base. and others buy gas for resale .. so this is a normal bargain on the terms.

Now about the refund .. do you know how much money was invested in Abkhazia long before 2008, how much money was invested in Crimea, and how? do you think the humanitarian convoys in the Donbass in order to merge?

[Comrade Ivanov]

Build! Bulgaria paid $ 620 million for two reactors, now she has estimated them at $ 3,5 billion and wants to get money from the next investor. I heard he will be Russian? If so, we will make a 10% discount!

[thrush]

Quote: comrade Ivanov

Build! Bulgaria paid $ 620 million for two reactors, now she has estimated them at $ 3,5 billion and wants to get money from the next investor. I heard he will be Russian? If so, we will make a 10% discount!

Yes, there is no problem brother ... then you will pay for maintenance, utilization, etc.

we’ll think about the discount .. do you even know the conditions on which we are building the nuclear power plant now .. nothing personal ..

[Paranoid50]

Quote: Comrade Ivanov

Boyko Borisov is a thief, but

And no buts.

Quote: Comrade Ivanov

He helped Putin

Again He helped himself, his beloved, trying to pull his pinched tail.

Quote: Comrade Ivanov

Now Russia will have to pay for the service.

You will have to pay for the service of Russia now, yeah. A little later, when you find out the price tag for this gas. And then, if, nevertheless, the project is implemented, in which there is no absolute certainty yet. Squeezed your Borisov (this is the fate of the satellites), and again - past the cash register.

Quote: Comrade Ivanov

The pipes stop at the Bulgarian border,

Exactly, and there common sense stops and wagging, snagging and jumping begin. And so yes, it is better to be friends with the map - no one has canceled Greece yet. And by the way, where did you, Petar, take hutspa lessons?

[Vard]

Don’t stand by the side, we stormed the Sheath ... oh, not on that ...

[Egorovich]

Would you send your "bros" to the farm and sit there with your "friendship." In the geyrop you were sent to hell, now they have rushed to Russia with an empty pocket.

[sxfRipper]

While I was having dinner, I listened to this pressuha. The Bulgarian translator of the prime minister had difficulty choosing words! Where to go further.

[Nasty]

I wonder at whose expense the pipe will go to Bulgaria? Is Russia a generous soul?

[Ros 56]

I wonder at whose expense the pipe will go to Bulgaria? Is Russia a generous soul?

If GDP is swallowed, then all the guys, drain the water, Russia is not for us.

[New Year day]

The Bulgarians did not have money then, and even more so today. Banquet at the expense of Gazprom

[Mountain shooter]

It's funny Mnogoghodovochka again! The Turs agreed on one line of the Turkish stream, and the second, for some reason - no ... TONAR was pulled from Azerbaijan. Well, we give them an enema with gramophone needles. The second branch will go to the president of Bulgaria! Perhaps along the South Stream route. At the same time, we will cure the Turks from excessive cunning

[Tersky]

Quote: Mountain Shooter

Turi agreed one line of the Turkish stream, and the second, for some reason - no ...

There is good news, last week (by pure chance, apparently) it became known that the antimonopoly investigation that the EC conducted against the Russian gas monopoly was satisfactory to both sides. Now let the northern and Turkish routes (Germany and Turkey) compete for the right to build, through their hubs, “third and fourth threads”. Because Russian pipeline gas to Italy, for example, can go either along one or the other route. Or through Austria, or through the bottom of at least the Ionian, at least the Adriatic. For the resource provider (Russia) is no longer important. So the Turks have something to reflect on ..

[New Year day]

Then the Turks will agree with the Bulgarian and there will be 2 episode a la Ukraine. Do you believe these people?

[bk316]

Interestingly, they really don’t understand?
What evil? Do they still think bros are for us? Well proved to be unreliable partners, well, buy gas from Turkey now - just a business. We would continue to drive the gas through 404 in full if they didn’t steal it and blackmail us with this theft.

[ANCIENT]

Now a whole string will be lined up in the Kremlin, all kinds of hand-guides, will shit on our heads and ask for forgiveness from us! !!

[Zaurbek]

There is a joke about the "Elusive JOE"

[Alekseits]

Quote: Oper

Remember the recent brave arguments on the VO of Bulgarian commentators!

Even today they are trying to portray something just as brave.
==== Comrade Ivanov (Petar Ivanov) Today,
Gone ... through Bulgaria. There is no other way. Now Gazprom will pay for transit to both Turkey and Bulgaria, and Putin can buy a geographical map and study it. ====

[midshipman]

How much we gave the Russians to the Bulgarians. I often had to be in this country in the 80s. Created airfields, airports, revived the Air Force, civilian fleet. NII-33 created for them an air traffic control system then.
And in the late 70s of the 19th century, my ancestor was with our father, Prime Minister Stolypin, they liberated this country. They were then given the opportunity to have access to the Black Sea. The father of our Prime Minister Stolypin was a general. This acquaintance allowed my father already in 1941 to send me and my mother to my father's cousin to Siberia from Leningrad. And my father’s relatives went there to reform Premier Stolypin in 1912, mastered Siberia (Omsk region) .. Therefore, our surname appears there now.
I personally find it difficult to understand what the President will say to the Bulgarian leadership now. In a difficult situation, thanks to the labeled and the drunk ..

[Paranoid50]

Quote: midshipman

How much we gave the Russians to the Bulgarians. I often had to be in this country in the 80s. Created airfields, airports, revived the Air Force, civilian fleet. NII-33 created for them an air traffic control system then

Eh, Yuri Grigorievich, now they have safely forgotten it. But, after all, in the glorious times, they requested in the USSR the sixteenth republic ... There is no Todor Zhivkov on them.

[Ros 56]

If hell is 800 lyam greens to us, we better ask the people from the box for the treatment of another child. I suggest that anyone with an income of more than 1 million rubles per month be levied with an additional tax at a rate of 13% in the Russian Children's Treatment Fund. And do not disgrace the whole world with requests for alms. The names of those who refused the additional tax should be covered in the media, I will see which of the decent people will give them a hand.

[fif21]

Bulgarians, all questions for the Turks. Who will build your pipe, and how much Russian gas will cost you, is not for Russia. Tomatoes from Turkey are also good. And you will pay 800 lyam euros to Russia, a matter of time.
The brand "brother" with Russia is no longer rolling. Business is nothing personal.

[KVU-NSVD]

And the train has already left ...

Another may come. It is not in vain that Bulgaria raises this question at such a level, and it is not in vain that it bows like a Chinese boob .. By any chance, there was preliminary ventilation of the issue in the "corridors of the Kremlin." It’s just that Sofia was made clear that the resumption of the project will no longer be so free for her and will require some preferences for Moscow

The loss of Gazprom due to the refusal to sell the gas pipeline directly from Russia to Bulgaria amounted to about 800 million euros.

- this is wf not casual ... Well, if, like, you don’t agree, then suck the pipe from Turkey

The Russian leader added that the Turkish Stream gas pipeline could go through Bulgaria alone

. Something like that, I think ..

[Comrade Ivanov]

It is not in vain that Bulgaria raises this question at such a level, and it is not in vain that it bows like a Chinese blank.

Bulgaria does not need this pipeline. The only reason is that the government agreed with Gazprom to steal a lot of money from the project and they will steal Russian money, because when they wanted to steal the Bulgarian, this did not happen.

[KVU-NSVD]

Quote: Comrade Ivanov

Bulgaria does not need this pipeline.

Without need, not a single issue is discussed at the level of presidents and governments. Sofia is well aware that a direct pipe from Russia is much better than solving gas issues with the Sultan. And so it will be with the launch of the Turkish Stream and the pipeline from Azerbaijan. What about

the government agreed with Gazprom to steal a lot of money from the project and they will steal Russian money,

that’s how it is usual ... Big money, big temptations, and without the "grease" of your authorities, things will not move properly .. In this regard, yours, that our officials are smeared with one world ..

[nathanael]

Maybe one branch to go through Bulgaria ... Or maybe not

[New Year day]

even Bulgaria has bent GDP. Survived. So everything is fine with us, that we forgive everyone our money. Erdogan is unreliable, and the tomatoes ran out, now the Bulgarians threw 800 million Eureks. This is a "multi-way" - to forgive everyone, and to peel their own population.
It remains for the Poles to pay for Susanin and Ukraine to pay for LDNR.

[thrush]

you’re tired of whining .. draw a poster and go to the Kremlin .. single pickets are not prohibited.

[New Year day]

Counter offer - shout "Hurray" until blue

[taiga2018]

Dragonfly ...

[faterdom]

Quote: Oper

I have not seen such humiliation at the international level for a long time, and indeed, I don’t remember something! I don’t even know what kind of sensation the Bulgarian leader makes this babble ?! Remember the recent brave reasoning on the VO of Bulgarian commentators! One thing I can say about myself, these people have spoiled seriously and for a long time! To put it mildly. I wrote a comment and picked up words ... Today is somehow unpleasant - Babchenko ..., stupid SBUshniki, apologizing Bulgarians ...

In connection with the tightening of the IMF’s policy, I’m afraid that we will soon see in the Kremlin the timidly “sobbing” Petro Olekseyich ...

[Heterocapsa]

mushroom start crawling with the poles

[Comrade Ivanov]

Bulgaria uses 3 billion m3 of natural gas per year. Does anyone seriously believe that price is important for Bulgaria, given that the EU pays us 4 billion a year?

[Heterocapsa]

Is price always important? such statements even billionaires do not allow themselves.

[Comrade Ivanov]

Didn’t you understand that the entire EU industry is energy efficient, it is interested in high fuel prices. When fuel is expensive, European goods are bought because they are energy efficient. Moreover, money from high oil and gas prices goes to the EU and the USA, they did not remain in Russia. With low oil and gas prices, the EU earned 40-50 billion dollars, but lost 120 billion Russian money

[dolfi1]

Here , they could have started a pipe through themselves, they ran for sanctions, sorry. Russia, too, would be better off leading a pipe through them, now the Turks will be twisting their tail. Moreover, the Turks themselves will also take from Azerbaijan.

[Real russian]

And rightly so! I support Putin, no matter what they say.

[Skifotavr]

According to the Bulgarian prime minister, he is grateful to Russia for the fact that it "does not hold evil."

And the Bulgarians are not good. And it is incurable. I would not advise stepping on the same cattle rake.

[1skuns1]

noticed? ... the "generals" of the site are silent

[Runoway]

Yes, everything is fine brothers Bulgarians what insults, we sell gasoline to our idiot patriots at sky-high prices and all losses are compensated

[nofrills]

a prerequisite - money in advance !!!

[Zomanus]

But why keep them angry?
It’s not their fault, it is their master who ordered them so.
But thanks to this, we saw who is actually an independent country.

[militia2]

It would be nice not to cut the ends right away, but to find a mutually acceptable and mutually beneficial solution.
Ukraine owes us a lot. They sent ambassadors - Zurabov and Chernomyrdin! Is that Ambassadors ??? Spit in the end. Now, if we get the debts. it is not soon.
Well here, I hope Russian officials will do smarter.

[pvv113]

he is grateful to Russia for “not holding evil”

For some reason, I recalled a joke about cockroaches

One man asks a colleague:
- Do not know how to get cockroaches? What I just did not try, than just did not poison.
- Come home and shout in a loud commanding voice: "Comrades cockroaches! Get into the convoy one at a time! And now - march from home!" The most important thing is to command seriously, without laughter.
A man returns home and yells:
- Comrades cockroaches! In the column one at a time - become! And now - march from home!
Cockroaches crawl out of all the cracks, are built into a column and begin to leave the apartment in the stairwell with an even marching step. Seeing this, the whole man broke into a smile. The last of the marching cockroaches looked back at the man, and how he would yell:
- Guys! Come back! He joked! He has good eyes!

[Note 2]

Bulgarians resemble women of easy virtue, sold to those who pay.

[Artmat]

Quote: Tank Hard

Quote: Maz

Muammar Gaddafi ate a pound of sand in the desert ..

Gaddafi was, of course, a rare g ... (radish). But an example is instructive.

What has Gaddafi used for your credit? Pour the top of idiocy on someone else's, and even dead! This is the citizens of Libya who have the right to this, but not a miracle like a couch ... if you and your opinion sent to Libya, you would have repeated the fate of Gaddafi definitely ...

[Jurkovs]

Bulgarian Prime Minister: Russia does not hold evil for our disruption of South Stream

But they will no longer see good.

[Comrade Kim]

We do not hold evil, and we will not gloat.
We’ll even rejoice at the brotherly people, who elected (?) A government that decommissioned several Kozloduy NPP units to please Western European energy suppliers.
We will especially be glad for the significantly increased after this bills for energy efficiency in payments of ordinary Bulgarians.
After all the "allied" decisions of the Bulgarian government, I will not go to Bulgaria to rest, and I do not advise friends.

[Incvizitor]

I really hope that the Turks will have them with this gas. that they themselves will not want to use it.

[earloop]

"It's a shame, annoying! ... Yes-ah! Okay" Brothers, though!