Troubled night for the Iron Dome. Palestinian attack and Israeli otvetka

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The press service of the Israel Defense Forces announces the use of the Iron Dome missile defense system. The reason was the next attacks of Israeli territory from the Gaza Strip. In Israel, the attack wing of Hamas is accused of attacks. It is known that the rockets were launched in the direction of such Israeli settlements as Shaar-ha-Negev, Eshkol, Sdot Negev.

In total, about 70 rockets and mines were fired on Israeli territory. Rockets from this number to thirty. The press service of the IDF said that most of the ammunition fired from the Gaza Strip was intercepted by using the “Iron Dome”. The sirens of rocket attack warnings in towns near Ashkelon were activated several times.



The exact number of missiles intercepted by the Iron Dome is not reported.

Troubled night for the Iron Dome. Palestinian attack and Israeli otvetka


In response to the shelling of its territory, Israel raised combat aircraft. One of the blows was the destruction of the tunnel connecting the Gaza Strip with Egypt. Israeli intelligence, according to local media reports, received information that it was through this tunnel that the militants in the Gaza Strip received supplies. Video from the destruction of the Israeli tunnel aviation publishes a portal News.co.il:



In total, Israeli aircraft attacked around 25 objects of Hamas. Stated that one of the goals was a workshop for the production of unguided missiles.

In the meantime, the Israeli authorities accused Hamas of trying to attack targets not only near the borders, but also in the depths of Israeli territory.
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  1. Maz
    +15
    30 May 2018 06: 50
    Yeah, after all, not all missiles are knocked down by an iron dome. And the population is not disclosed the truth, so as not to be fooled. Bo can not be the same - the homeland of genius, and all the rockets made from pipes made by an Arab fitter - cannot be shot down ... In the desert, without mountains, without EW counteraction ... Bravo Israel! Airplanes over a piece of desert with slingshots and bows,
    flying kites is a heroic feat of the Air Force
    1. +22
      30 May 2018 06: 54
      Quote: Maz
      Yeah, after all, not all missiles are knocked down by an iron dome

      As much as the performance characteristics of the Dome were described here, he drops down missiles that pose a threat. He does not shoot down missiles flying to nowhere.
      1. +5
        30 May 2018 07: 31
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        As much as the performance characteristics of the Dome were described here, he drops down missiles that pose a threat. He does not shoot down missiles flying to nowhere.

        Yesterday, two shells fell near the school, the performance characteristics of the machines are not perfect, so new methods and tools are needed to prevent such attacks. Until now, I have not heard an explanation of how the army constantly misses the start of such actions, because intelligence is not sleeping or sleeping .....
        1. +9
          30 May 2018 08: 17
          It is not rockets that break through, but mortar mines. They have
          low trajectory, and there is not enough time for the LCD reaction.
          7 km - the minimum zone of the Iron Dome. Militants are
          they know and hit residential buildings closest to the border.
          Here only the laser will be in time, but they are being pulled with its delivery to armament.
          1. +5
            30 May 2018 08: 30
            There are rumors that the dome has already begun to test on mortar shells, and it seems that the results are encouraging, let's see.
          2. +1
            30 May 2018 09: 23
            Quote: voyaka uh
            It is not rockets that break through, but mortar mines. They have
            low trajectory, and there is not enough time for the LCD reaction.
            7 km - the minimum zone of the Iron Dome. Militants are
            they know and hit residential buildings closest to the border.
            Here only the laser will be in time, but they are being pulled with its delivery to armament.

            It is necessary to track down before they deploy the mortars and cover this place, there were precedents, there are also UAVs. Here we must not brag about the answers, but cut them off before they take positions or when they are already throwing a shell at the mortar. And so the efficiency is low, since they manage to break through the air defense on which a lot of money is spent. So they fired 25 shells, how long does it take for a retaliatory artillery strike to the same calculation, I think on the 3-5th shell the point would have already been covered. I don’t want to teach scientists how, but put the same chess players and let the opponent know how the grandmaster plays ... hi

            ATMOS 2000 is an Israeli 155mm self-propelled artillery unit. The maximum firing range is 30 km with conventional shells, 41 - with a jet engine. The maximum rate of fire is 4-9 rounds per minute.
          3. +1
            30 May 2018 10: 47
            Quote: voyaka uh
            It is not rockets that break through, but mortar mines. They have
            low trajectory, and there is not enough time for the LCD reaction.
            7 km - the minimum zone of the Iron Dome.

            Warrior - and you did not try to combine the radar with a large-caliber machine gun? Electronics you now have enough - there are enough trunks too - rivet more and along the border for every 1-2 km - it should work.
            1. +3
              30 May 2018 11: 54
              Quote: kotdavin4i
              Warrior - and you did not try to combine the radar with a large-caliber machine gun? Electronics you now have enough - there are enough trunks too - rivet more and along the border for every 1-2 km - it should work.

              The problem is shrapnel and bullets. There was a project - damage came out more than from mines: fires, splinters and other garbage
          4. Maz
            0
            30 May 2018 17: 24
            Tell this tale to four ditched F16s who rolled dastardly gas rockets on the ground, breaking through the vaunted iron dome
            1. +2
              30 May 2018 19: 44
              We are waiting for a photo ... It's a bomb. This is more effective than precision strikes. Place the city and all have no base, by the way, and the Russian too.
              Oh yes, this is an advertisement for an armor, it’s ...
        2. +1
          30 May 2018 09: 25
          Quote: XXXIII
          Quote: Alexander Romanov
          As much as the performance characteristics of the Dome were described here, he drops down missiles that pose a threat. He does not shoot down missiles flying to nowhere.

          Yesterday, two shells fell near the school, the performance characteristics of the machines are not perfect, so new methods and tools are needed to prevent such attacks. Until now, I have not heard an explanation of how the army constantly misses the start of such actions, because intelligence is not sleeping or sleeping .....

          Some villages are in the distance less kilometers from the border
          How long will the shell fly?
          Try to intercept it
          1. +1
            30 May 2018 09: 30
            Quote: Totah155
            Some villages are located less than a kilometer from the border
            How long will the shell fly?
            Try to intercept it
            Yes, and not answer in a day, but immediately after 3-5 volleys cover the point of aggression, because you have a war or a scheduled lunch there ..... what
            1. +4
              30 May 2018 10: 00
              Quote: XXXIII
              Quote: Totah155
              Some villages are located less than a kilometer from the border
              How long will the shell fly?
              Try to intercept it
              Yes, and not answer in a day, but immediately after 3-5 volleys cover the point of aggression, because you have a war or a scheduled lunch there ..... what

              And if at the * point of aggression * a school or a hospital?
              1. +1
                30 May 2018 10: 32
                Quote: Totah155
                And if at the * point of aggression * a school or a hospital?

                "Wow, we got out of the bay." fellow ..... Yes, you there seem to be answering very accurately according to the statement of Tsakh CHUEB, so it is possible to cover it exactly, or in this case the accuracy is not so accurate?! ..... laughing
      2. +7
        30 May 2018 07: 32
        Alexander Romanov hi -Alexander hi so it’s impossible to calculate the flight of a water pipe! They mainly use homemade products from the made in basement company !!!
        1. +2
          30 May 2018 09: 28
          Quote: ANCIENT
          Alexander Romanov hi -Alexander hi so it’s impossible to calculate the flight of a water pipe! They mainly use homemade products from the made in basement company !!!

          You are behind the times. Learn the materiel, the oldest ...
          Homemade products were 10 (ten) years ago.
          Now quite standard missiles. With normal warhead
      3. +5
        30 May 2018 08: 15
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        Quote: Maz
        Yeah, after all, not all missiles are knocked down by an iron dome

        As much as the performance characteristics of the Dome were described here, he drops down missiles that pose a threat. He does not shoot down missiles flying to nowhere.

        Do not waste time on him. Useless. ZhK yesterday successfully intercepted artillery mines for which, in fact, it was not at all intended.
        Report on hoops per night.
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          1. +9
            30 May 2018 09: 54
            Quote: Alexander Romanov
            Oleg, this is a cool dude. He lives in Israel and hates Jews. He is going to receive the allowance that the Jews pay him and hate the Jews. He takes the money and hates it, hates it, hates it. But still, he takes the money and he becomes ashamed. Then he comes to Sait, from the store where he bought a hateful Jew .... And he continues to hate the Jews. He eats matzah and hates her

            It can also be understood. An uneducated Moroccan Jew tells him where and what to sweep, his daughter served in the Israeli army where she had a Ethiopian Jewish commander and she will marry a swarthy Iraqi Jew and give birth to his Jewish grandchildren and they will stick a finger at his grandfather and call him a gay. crying
            1. +3
              30 May 2018 10: 02
              Quote: professor
              An uneducated Moroccan Jew tells him where and what to sweep, his daughter served in the Israeli army where she had a Ethiopian Jewish commander and she will marry a swarthy Iraqi Jew and give birth to his Jewish grandchildren


              Poor fellow, I want him to help with something. But what? What can we do in this case? Can put a good Jewish song for him
              1. 0
                31 May 2018 14: 12
                Try it, God save the king ... "
            2. +2
              30 May 2018 12: 06
              Quote: professor
              He goes to receive the allowance that Jews pay him and hates Jews. He takes money and hates, hates, hates. But still he takes money and he becomes ashamed.


              You have any topic for the Jews, for some reason it turns into a conversation about money, just like in that joke

              They argued the Orthodox, Muslim and Jew - whose god is stronger.
              A Muslim says: "There was a terrible storm, a tornado, everything around was crumbling.
              I prayed to God - and he lifted me up and carried me over the storm to a safe place! "
              The Christian says: "But I fell into a flood, everything flooded around, I can’t swim ...
              I prayed to God, he took me to dry land and moved me! "
              And the Jew says: "And once on Saturday I was walking along the road, I see - there is a wallet, full of money.
              Yes, you can’t raise it, because on Saturday you cannot work, you can’t do anything.
              Well, I prayed to God ... Everybody has Saturday, and I have Thursday! "
              1. +1
                30 May 2018 12: 47
                Quote: Humpbacked Horse
                You have any topic for the Jews, for some reason it turns into a conversation about money, just like in that joke

                Sanya, and you turn out to be a Jew. At least that's what the humpbacked horse says. wassat
                1. 0
                  31 May 2018 14: 25
                  Quote: professor
                  Sanya, and you turn out to be a Jew.

                  Latent...
          2. +1
            30 May 2018 10: 03
            Quote: Alexander Romanov
            Oleg, this is a cool dude. He lives in Israel and hates Jews. He is going to receive the allowance that the Jews pay him and hate the Jews. He takes the money and hates it, hates it, hates it. But still, he takes the money and he becomes ashamed. Then he comes to Sait, from the store where he bought a hateful Jew .... And he continues to hate the Jews. He eats matzah and hates her

            And yes, it drives a big green car ...
            ... bus
            1. +5
              30 May 2018 12: 00
              Quote: Totah155
              And yes, it drives a big green car ...
              ... bus

              He is a very rich man, probably not everyone can afford a big green bus
      4. +1
        30 May 2018 11: 47
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        As much as the performance characteristics of the Dome were described here, he drops down missiles that pose a threat. He does not shoot down missiles flying to nowhere.

        How is it determined if, say, a rocket is real Rocketmaneuvering (FIG knows where it will stick in the final segment), and not a dumb missile? Exclusively Israeli Defense Ministry and lobbyists from the IAI?
        Well and yes, even for the "killing" of several meters of sand (sometimes - even in the illegally occupied territory), Israel does not shy away from killing completely living, and even completely uninjured people.
        1. +4
          30 May 2018 11: 49
          Quote: Kuroneko
          (sometimes - even in illegally occupied territory)

          Ukraine believes that we took the Crimea illegally. If you are such a legalist, will we return Crimea?
          1. +1
            30 May 2018 11: 56
            When you return Kosovo to Serbia, recognize Abkhazia, repent for war crimes and intervention in Libya and Iraq - perhaps. But this will never happen.
            And Crimea has always been Russian - after the greatest victory over the Tatar-Turkish army, which threatened the disintegration of Russia itself (not Kiev ^ _ ^) as a state. Everything there is abundantly watered with the blood of our ancestors.
            1. +4
              30 May 2018 11: 59
              Quote: Kuroneko
              . But this will never happen.

              Well, proceed from this. We have our own interests, Israel has our own.
              But what strikes me most is that you worry so much for those who are fighting against Assad. And Hamas is not a fig is not an ally of Syria, but you do not care, Islamic Jihad is closer to you for some reason
              1. 0
                30 May 2018 12: 16
                Quote: Alexander Romanov
                Well, proceed from this. We have our own interests, Israel has our own.

                I'm leaving. The interests of Israel are deeply sideways to me, because I am primarily concerned about the interests of my own country, where I was born, raised and which I love (if I wanted to, I could have emigrated to Australia long ago - but I have no desire). Is this something bad?
                Quote: Alexander Romanov
                But what strikes me most is that you worry so much for those who are fighting against Assad. And Hamas is not a fig is not an ally of Syria, but you do not care, Islamic Jihad is closer to you for some reason

                What the hell? I tried for the first time to explain the situevina-misunderstanding, but one of my 14 cats wisely decided for me - I ran through the clave, pressed something with my paws and the whole post was deleted. At first I was upset, then I realized that yes, the cat's paws were right. Either wiggle your convolutions, or you just don’t need to attribute your vision of your globe to me. Chewing is not really an option.
                1. +2
                  30 May 2018 12: 55
                  Quote: Kuroneko
                  Israel’s interests deeply side me, because I am primarily concerned about the interests of my own country

                  And then you speak for Hamas?
                  Quote: Kuroneko
                  Chewing is not really an option.

                  I drove you into a cruel mental prostration. It is difficult for you to choose allies, especially when you find out who they are and what they are.
                  1. 0
                    30 May 2018 13: 57
                    My cats chose me. I'm ok.
                    But I can’t help but ask (it’s good that the kotyarus are now breathing): are you for the IDF?
                    And yes, supposedly speaking for Hamas, thank your own worldview globe. There, with you, Ukraine has already squeezed Crimea, by the way?
                    1. +2
                      30 May 2018 15: 36
                      Quote: Kuroneko
                      But I can’t help but ask (it’s good that the kotyarus are now breathing): are you for the IDF?

                      But we have no warriors with Israel, normal relations. But there are terrorists. And even more so with Islamic Jihad.
                      By the way, say thanks to Israel and Egypt, if they had not blocked the Gaza Strip, thousands of militants would now have fought against Assad in Syria.
          2. 0
            31 May 2018 14: 29
            Quote: Alexander Romanov
            Ukraine considers

            ... soon they will learn to read and write ...
      5. Maz
        0
        30 May 2018 17: 29
        I repeat, the Hotzer Air Force base, four 16 s are destroyed during a massive salvage attack from gases. Information is classified by Jews.
        1. +2
          30 May 2018 17: 45
          Quote: Maz
          Repeat

          Don’t repeat yourself. Tired of it.

          Quote: Maz
          Air Force Base Hotzer

          "hotser" is a secret air base because no one except you heard about it.

          Quote: Maz
          four s-16 destroyed during a volley massive attack from gases.

          If you are talking about the 4-th air wing (AKA Hatzor), then can you show us at least one F-16-th on it? Oopsss. They all hid. lol


          Quote: Maz
          Information is classified by Jews.

          But how did you find out about her? OBS? wink
          1. +2
            30 May 2018 18: 49
            This is it about the base near Ashdod, probably. So to her 40 km minimum. Maz ay bad, do not know how not to handle. How many nurses do you need to damage the base at such a distance?
            1. Maz
              +1
              30 May 2018 19: 50
              You would be smart that night, but at the base, I would like to see what you would sing there. When the roof is raining from iron, and overhead there is a gap behind the gap. And I hear everything on the phone and can’t do anything. So what about your dome on my nerves is really written. And I also believed that they say impenetrable, brilliant, iron - tell my daughter this, patriot.
              1. +2
                30 May 2018 19: 54
                I was closer than you think, and I do not advise provoking here.
              2. +1
                30 May 2018 20: 15
                What are you talking about, this is war. There are no victims. The damage is minimal. This was to make the dome. Your daughter is alive.
          2. Maz
            +1
            30 May 2018 19: 48
            Yes, I do not care the exact name, it is enough that the base was strewn with fragments. And the soldiers were forbidden to tell the truth. The panic was such that they forgot to pick up the soldiers from remote posts. They called the parents, the parents called the commanders, and only after that, measures were taken to evacuate from under the gaps. So there was no time for airplanes. People would be saved. And your vaunted dome could not repel the attack. And on the radio we were told that everything was shot down. Bullshit.
            1. +3
              30 May 2018 19: 50
              Already not planes, but just panic ....
            2. +4
              30 May 2018 20: 59
              Quote: Maz
              Yes, I do not care the exact name, it is enough that the base was strewn with fragments.

              I believe you don't care for the facts. Nevertheless, in the photo I laid out above, you can contemplate the absence of aircraft located in the open. The reason for this is in dataks. Do you know that in Hebrew an underground concrete shelter for an airplane is called a "datac"? No Grads are capable of damaging the aircraft in such a shelter, CEP.


              Quote: Maz
              And the soldiers were forbidden to tell the truth.

              For the disclosure of the execution? I believe.

              Quote: Maz
              The panic was such that the soldiers forgot to pick up from remote posts. Those called parents, parents called commanders, and only after that, measures were taken to evacuate from under the gaps. So there was no time for airplanes.

              And how did the 4 F-16 turn out to be outside the datac, and even at night?

              Quote: Maz
              People would be saved.

              Saved? Not even a single wounded? Glory to the Iron Dome.

              Quote: Maz
              And I hear everything on the phone and can’t do anything.

              And you would call your friends a Hamasman. They would stop shelling for your sake.
        2. +1
          30 May 2018 23: 59
          Quote: Maz
          I repeat, the Hotzer Air Force base, four 16 s are destroyed during a massive salvage attack from gases. Information is classified by Jews.

          Such stupidity to write it is necessary to try. crying
      6. Maz
        +2
        30 May 2018 19: 40
        Nenenene, I'm talking about those missiles that fly where they need to, but the dome can't shoot them down, but they tell you, sho shoots down because advertising is above all.
    2. +2
      30 May 2018 07: 52
      Violence breeds violence. But such an escalation of bloodshed does not lead to good. winked
      1. +6
        30 May 2018 07: 53
        Quote: siberalt
        Violence breeds violence.


        Should you hug terrorists?
        1. AUL
          +3
          30 May 2018 08: 08
          No, express concern!
        2. +8
          30 May 2018 08: 13
          Israel brutally exterminates those who encroach on its interests. Resolutely condemn, firmly protest - they leave all this to others.
          1. +1
            30 May 2018 08: 43
            very loud words, you write down Russia as an enemy, interests do not always converge ...
        3. +4
          30 May 2018 08: 57
          Well, Israel even treats wounded ISIS members and not only ...
      2. +2
        30 May 2018 11: 10
        Quote: siberalt
        And such an escalation of bloodshed does not lead to good. winked

        Oleg, which is typical, in this night's spate on both sides no one was hurt. Yes And in the morning it was infa that Hamas and the Israelites are already agreeing on a ceasefire. In short, the IDF and Hamas conducted joint exercises. laughing
  2. +15
    30 May 2018 06: 53
    Insufficient response. We must not bomb tunnels and empty bases, but the villas of terrorist leaders on the Mediterranean coast.
    1. +13
      30 May 2018 07: 00
      Well then, and the owners of the leaders of the terrorists, the villas are located on foggy Albion and the east coast of the SGA, however, on the west too laughing
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        1. +3
          30 May 2018 07: 20
          Quote: Serg65
          Do you offer the Israelis to kill Jews ??

          hi Salam, land! What, however, a “fidgety” question you asked! wink
          1. +7
            30 May 2018 07: 22
            Salam, brother!
            Quote: Tank Hard
            What, however, a “fuzzy” question you asked!

            Nothing personal, just the truth! wink
        2. +2
          30 May 2018 07: 26
          Quote: Serg65
          Quote: lwxx
          Well then, and the owners of terrorist leaders

          belay Do you offer the Israelis to kill the Jews ??? bully

          The people of Israel need to unite against the terrorist apartheid, expel these tribes from their lands, or bring an international trial ...
          1. +16
            30 May 2018 07: 30
            Quote: XXXIII
            The people of Israel must unite against terrorist apartheid, drive these tribes from their lands

            what In my opinion it was already somewhere ??? A-ah, in SSHA ??? Right! Only there were the Indians terrorists! Yes
            1. +2
              30 May 2018 07: 35
              Quote: Serg65
              Quote: XXXIII
              The people of Israel must unite against terrorist apartheid, drive these tribes from their lands

              what In my opinion it was already somewhere ??? A-ah, in SSHA ??? Right! Only there were the Indians terrorists! Yes

              No, no, you do not understand that, to expel those who feed on these conflicts and fuel them constantly, these people are not only in Palestine or Gaza, they also live among the Jews ...
            2. +2
              30 May 2018 07: 57
              Quote: Serg65
              Right! Only there were the Indians terrorists!

              Just don’t talk about the Indians, you don’t even fumble about 00,1%! Just take my word for it wassat
              1. +8
                30 May 2018 08: 15
                Quote: Wendigo
                Just don’t talk about the Indians, you don’t even fumble about 00,1%! Just take my word for it

                Well! Few people now believe "on the word"! Tell us the whole truth about the Indians. Curious...
                1. +10
                  30 May 2018 08: 21
                  Quote: Tank Hard
                  Tell us the whole truth about the Indians. Curious...

                  I join the request, what else did the Pentagon tell the Pentagon about the Indians?
              2. +3
                30 May 2018 09: 29
                Quote: Wendigo
                Just take my word for it

                The last time I fell for such an offer was in the distant 88 year in Odessa at the GUM laughing right now it won’t ride wink
              3. +2
                30 May 2018 11: 05
                Quote: Wendigo
                Just take my word for it

                Donald Trump is a woman. Black. Bald. Melania is a man. With horns and a tail.
                Just take my word for it.
      2. +3
        30 May 2018 08: 33
        You didn’t see the Khamasov’s villas, well, the Abassov’s villas didn’t let us down either, it is unlikely that anyone has such * houses * here.
  3. +13
    30 May 2018 06: 59
    Sometimes it seems to me that the Hamaz-type groups now have a goal not to fight for the interests of the Palestinians, but to elementary terror and to get money for this from sponsors.
    1. +10
      30 May 2018 07: 12
      When it seems that it is necessary to be baptized. Then it will not seem. And Israel does not do the same by killing Palestinians just out of suspicion or just by provoking people to righteous anger? fighting against ISIS in Syria? And it’s simple, they earn their indulgence from their older brother, who seeks to destroy unified Syria, and further wreak havoc in the Middle East. And they receive silver pieces in the form of military equipment and loans from Washington. Naturally, political support, even if they commit crimes monstrous from the point of view of human morality, including military ones.
      1. +8
        30 May 2018 08: 10
        Quote: Mar. Tira
        But does Israel not do the same thing by killing Palestinians just because of suspicion or just like that, provoking people to righteous anger?


        No.



        Quote: Mar. Tira
        .... they are bombing Iranians and Hezbollah who are conducting direct military operations against ISIS in Syria?


        Your killer logic.
        It turns out that Israel cannot hit terrorists who are fighting other terrorists.

        Russia also does not understand your logic and therefore does not prevent Israel from attacking Hezbollah terrorists and Iranian Shiite terror.




        Quote: Mar. Tira
        And they receive money for this in the form of military equipment and loans from Washington


        Well, of course, before the war in Syria, Israel did not receive assistance from the United States. wassat

        Hezbollah is recognized by terrorists not only as Israel, but also by Arab countries.

        Iran, which pays and helps Hezbollah terrorists, also helps Hamas terrorists, the Islamic Jihad, who are terrorizing Israel.

        If Iran had not started building the infrastructure of terror in Syria, Israel would not have struck in Syria. This is easily seen from the situation before the war in Syria. At that time, Iranian influence was much less and there was almost no confrontation between Israel and Iran in Syria. Except that they destroyed the nuclear reactor in Syria, but there was no such Iranian expansion of Shiite terror into Syria.

        Before the war in Syria, Israel allowed the Druze of the Golan Heights to sell apples to Syria.

        You are here trying to present Israel as an aggressor by you, although this is not so. Israel needs silence and who will provide it - Israel does not care. If Assad, then Assad.

        Fortunately, Russia understands this and therefore does not interfere with Israel's fight against Shiite terror in Syria, since Russia understands that Iran and its terror interfere with Syria and Russia itself.

        Who wanted peace with Israel received it. And Israel will fight with Iranian terror - whether you like it or not.




        Quote: Mar. Tira
        Well, of course, political support, even if commit crimes monstrous from the point of view of human morality, including the military.


        These are just your fantasies and nothing more.
        1. +5
          30 May 2018 08: 18
          Is it possible to wait with the showdown with the old enemies? Let's destroy Ishil and other barmaley in Syria, then sort it out as much as you like.
          Quote: Tiras
          Lago Russia understands this and therefore does not interfere with Israel's fight against Shiite terror in Syria, since Russia understands that Iran and its terror interfere with Syria and Russia itself.

          Are you not funny yourself, or are you deliberately misleading people about Russian intentions? For Russia, are you all the same, that Israel, that Iran. Only Iran is with us now, and Israel, if not an enemy, is not a friend. Therefore, we will help Iran, what it needs to fight the Islamists and the United States.
          1. +2
            30 May 2018 08: 42
            In fact, the old enemies themselves do not wait. It’s not the Israelis who were breaking into Gaza for permanent residence wassat
            1. 0
              30 May 2018 08: 49
              But where can the Jews continue to burst into Palestine? And so they occupied by military means almost the entire territory.
              1. +3
                30 May 2018 09: 08

                Wow, thanks, we didn't know that we have such a big country wassat
          2. +1
            30 May 2018 08: 51
            Quote: Mar. Tira
            We'll destroy Ishil and other barmaley in Syria, then sort it out as much as you like.


            That is, to give Iran a foothold in Syria, to build factories for the production of weapons, to allow the storage of weapons, to bring air defense systems from Iran and modern missiles, etc.? No thanks.


            Quote: Mar. Tira
            Isn't it funny yourself, or are you deliberately misleading people about Russian intentions? For Russia, you are all the same, that Israel, that Iran


            What is the misconception?


            Iran obstructs Russian influence in Syria and Russia is only glad that Israel is striking Iran

            Moreover, Russia knows very well that Israel's strikes against Iran and its Hezbollah terrorists in Syria do not interfere with Russia's plans for Assad.
            1. 0
              30 May 2018 09: 00
              Quote: Tiras
              Is there to give Iran a foothold in Syria, to allow to build factories for the production of weapons, to allow the storage of weapons, to get air defense systems from Iran and modern missiles, etc.?

              Well, this is according to your version. Russia said that only the Syrian government can have power in Syria. After the end of hostilities, everyone will be asked to leave. Therefore, what Iran builds for them is their own business, but not yours invented in bad fantasies. The United States is also building something there, Turkey, someone else, and everywhere there are militants who sleep and see the destruction of Israel. You don't bomb them, because you know you will get in the teeth from sponsors.
              Quote: Tiras
              Iran obstructs Russian influence in Syria and Russia is only glad that Israel is striking Iran

              Are you a sadomasochist by any chance, only they are capable of such conclusions?
      2. +5
        30 May 2018 09: 29
        You will first study the history of the Palestinian-Israeli confrontation and who shed the first blood of innocent people, the Palestinians are far from such innocent lambs as they want to appear.
    2. +1
      30 May 2018 07: 23
      Quote: Nix1986
      Sometimes it seems to me that the Hamaz-type groups now have a goal not to fight for the interests of the Palestinians, but to elementary terror and to get money for this from sponsors.

      The Arabs do not need a strong Israel, this has long been understood, and the peace treaties that Jews sometimes boast about are not retroactive. You've probably seen a video of how African tribes drink the blood of artiodactyls, and the Arabs are doing the same with Israel. By the way, Israel is doing this too, they learned from each other, they always exchange experience on a bilateral basis ...
      1. +2
        30 May 2018 11: 36
        Quote: XXXIII
        You've probably seen a video of how African tribes drink the blood of artiodactyls, and the Arabs are doing the same with Israel. By the way, Israel is doing this too, they learned from each other, they always exchange experience on a bilateral basis ...

        Why don't we go into this? Or do we have little of our own hemorrhoids?
    3. +6
      30 May 2018 07: 42
      Quote: Nix1986
      It sometimes seems to me that groups like Hamaz are now aiming not to fight for the interests of the Palestinians, but to elementary terror and to get money for it from sponsors



      This is exactly the way it is. It is easy to see if you look at that since 2007, that is, for more than 10 years, the Palestinians have not been able to find a common language between themselves, that is, between Fatah and Hamas.

      Two groups are fighting for power over the Palestinians.

      What a peace with Israel if both groups cannot find a common language.

      Now Hamas is trying to survive, but it can survive at the expense of sponsors of terror such as Iran and the presentation of Israel as an enemy in order to spread the anger of the poor population to Israel.

      There will be no money from terrorists, there will be no weapons from terrorists - Hamas will not be able to exist and will lose power.

      Look at Egypt. It has a border with the gas sector. Hamas helped ISIS terrorists kill Egyptians. Egypt floods the border with water, destroys tunnels, etc. Egypt does this for a reason - it knows that there are terrorists and the border must be kept locked.
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  5. +6
    30 May 2018 07: 03
    the Israeli authorities accused Hamas of trying to attack targets not only at the borders, but also deep in Israeli territory.

    Hehe .... so it is possible to bomb exceptional all over the territory of Gaza, and the Palestinians can only shoot at the border areas? ..... as I understand this statement? ...
    1. +4
      30 May 2018 07: 27
      Quote: nPuBaTuP
      Hehe .... so it is possible to bomb exceptional all over the territory of Gaza, and the Palestinians can only shoot at the border areas? ..... as I understand this statement? ...


      What do you mean you can?
      Terrorists are shooting at Israel, what can they do?
      Can terrorists shoot at a Russian base in Syria or at Syrian troops in Syria? Can terrorists blow up buses and subways?
      1. +4
        30 May 2018 08: 02
        Well, how would it all start at this stage, after the transfer of the embassy and the shooting of peaceful protesters ... And now you should not blame only Hamas and the Palestinians for this ... let the Jews dig in themselves ... and deeper, deeper ... and maybe they will understand why they are being fired upon ... and then there will be no need to worry at night ...
        1. +2
          30 May 2018 08: 40
          Quote: nPuBaTuP
          shooting peaceful protesters ... and



          You know this is a lie. Yasyuda cited a video where Hamas themselves say that out of the 62 killed, 50 are theirs.
          And there they have remembered Hamas, there is also an Islamic jihad and even isis.



          Quote: nPuBaTuP
          let the Jews dig at home ... and deeper, deeper ... and maybe they will understand why they are being shelled ... and then there will be no need to worry at night ...


          The Jews already know why they are being fired upon.

          The answer was recently given by Hamas themselves:

          Gone are the days when Hamas discussed the possibility of recognizing Israel. The main question now is when to destroy Israel, "said the leader of the terrorist organization in the Gaza Strip, Ihya Sanwar. He also called on Mahmoud Abbas (Abu Mazen) to use" weapons of resistance. "
  6. +3
    30 May 2018 07: 09
    Escalation is escalating! Damn, well, Hamas won't calm down, that's understandable. What about the population? Will it be like sitting in basements in Donbass?
    1. +3
      30 May 2018 07: 17
      Quote: Mountain Shooter
      Escalation is escalating! Damn, well, Hamas won't calm down, that's understandable. What about the population? Will it be like sitting in basements in Donbass?

      And what else should they do, they are not an army, they are civilians who, if they could apply everything at once, they would do so ...
    2. +3
      30 May 2018 08: 24
      Quote: Mountain Shooter
      Escalation is growing! Damn, well, Hamas will not calm down, this is understandable.

      Unfortunately, the air smells of war. Great, bloody war. God is a witness, we do not want war, but we were left with no choice. We cannot afford to live under shelling. Mina's kindergarten is beyond our patience.

      Quote: Mountain Shooter
      But what about the population?

      Hamas is not interested in its population. For them it's cannon fodder.

      Quote: Mountain Shooter
      Will it be like sitting in the basement in the Donbass?

      We are ready to sit in bomb shelters for as long as necessary in order to give our army the opportunity to do whatever it takes.
  7. +1
    30 May 2018 07: 17
    Again pingpong missiles for the glory of Jewish weapons and the stability of the military budget, as well as for the sake of an influx of recruits and "bucks" in the Hamas.
  8. +4
    30 May 2018 07: 19
    What can I say, the Zionists are reaping what they have sown, I think this is just the beginning. The number of shelling and casualties on both sides will grow, this is the reality, in the modern world, "God's chosenness" and "exclusivity" engenders only hatred and opposition.
    1. +1
      30 May 2018 07: 37
      And what prevents Israel from taking advantage of the USSR's experience of peaceful coexistence of many peoples?
      Why, as a comrade from Israel wrote here, in Palestine $ 100 is a lot of money, poor neighbors are potential enemies, that it is impossible to offer work and normal wages to the Arabs so that they value it and do not even think about confrontation with the Jews, in my life I will not believe that Jews are greedy and evil, I have always come across Toko adequate in life!)
      1. 0
        30 May 2018 07: 43
        The enemy does not even want to reconcile, and you mean economic assistance.
      2. +6
        30 May 2018 07: 45
        Peacefully Israel can exist with those who recognize Israel and are not terrorists.
        Egypt, Jordan signed a peace treaty and now these countries are supplied with Israeli gas, Israel is helping these countries to fight against isis, there are various projects, etc.

        Whoever wants peace with Israel gets it.
      3. +5
        30 May 2018 08: 22
        You probably do not know that the Arabs from Gaza used to work in Israel, and those living in Judea and Samaria (Hamuls of Abassa) are still working. Who do you think they supply gas, electricity, water to Gaza? And what about humanitarian aid and everything else? And what do you mean by * Palestine *? Gaza Strip, Autonomy, Israel, Jordan, a piece of Syria? All these territories were called * Palestine *, but the state of Palestine never existed and still does not exist.
        About $ 100, before Hamas in Gaza, they were getting very good, just as the Arabs from Judea now earn + -1000 $ per month (of course, depending on the job).
        They had everything when the Jews left Gaza and left them greenhouses, what do you think they did? Everything was destroyed. A week ago, they burned down the pipe that supplied them with gas. They were brought humanitarian aid, Hamas did not let them in, etc., and in the same spirit.
        What can you talk to them about?
      4. +1
        30 May 2018 08: 39
        and so most of the population of Gaza works in Israel. Yes, they get less Israelis, but more than if they worked in Gaza (if there was a job there). And after the shelling, Israel closes border crossings and civilians have nowhere to work with all their desire, because there is no work in Gaza !!! as always: the gentlemen are fighting, and the forelocks of the slaves are cracking !!!
      5. +3
        30 May 2018 09: 41
        Quote: Fayter2017
        is growing! Damn, well, Hamas will not calm down, this is understandable. What about the population? It will be like in the Donbass to sit in the basements

        In the USSR there was no such peaceful existence of different nations. Conflicts flared up regularly here and there. Somewhere more, somewhere less. In the end, everything turned into a bloodbath of the end of 80-x - the beginning of 90-x
  9. +7
    30 May 2018 07: 26
    25 targets - one target is a tunnel, the second is a workshop. ... And what about the rest? They didn’t make up their houses there, and then they say they bombed themselves? ?? Israel does not want to live peacefully with the Palestinians, and then get amazed at why these very Palestinians hate them? ?? And why love, if Israel has totally enlisted the whole of Palestine as terrorists? ??
    1. +3
      30 May 2018 07: 52
      Quote: ANCIENT
      25 targets - one target is a tunnel, the second is a workshop. ... And what about the rest? ??


      Army published map



      If you are interested, and not just troll as usual, then the goals were:

      The attacks were carried out on the targets of Hamas and Islamic Jihad militants. The "tunnel of jihad", which led from Gaza to Egyptian territory, and then to Israeli territory, in the direction of the Kerem Shalom checkpoint, was destroyed. According to sources in Gaza, militant bases Al-Buraq, Malik, Fajr, Arafat, Badr were attacked. The operational headquarters of the militants in northern Gaza was destroyed. The military says it has attacked a warehouse containing multicopters intended for terrorist use, a workshop for the production of missiles and engines for them, modern naval ammunition, as well as military facilities, training complexes and ammunition production facilities.




      Quote: ANCIENT
      Israel does not want to live peacefully with the Palestinians, and then they wonder why these same Palestinians hate them?


      No need to invent.

      Israel wants to live peacefully with all its neighbors, and Egypt and Jordan are examples of this.

      And those who do not want to live peacefully, such as Syria and Lebanon, those who are engaged in terror such as Hamas in Gaza - Israel does not want to live peacefully with them.
      Yes, I think and no one wants to live peacefully with terrorists who commit terrorist attacks.



      Quote: ANCIENT
      ?? And for what to love if Israel totally credited all of Palestine with terrorists? ??


      This is complete nonsense.
  10. +1
    30 May 2018 07: 40
    Sow the wind reap the storm! I already wrote!
  11. +1
    30 May 2018 07: 44
    Quote: ANCIENT
    25 targets - one target is a tunnel, the second is a workshop. ... And what about the rest? They didn’t make up their houses there, and then they say they bombed themselves? ?? Israel does not want to live peacefully with the Palestinians, and then get amazed at why these very Palestinians hate them? ?? And why love, if Israel has totally enlisted the whole of Palestine as terrorists? ??


    Israel does not want to negotiate with its neighbors, only recognizes force methods! And then he is surprised, or pretends to be surprised, in connection with the actions of the Palestinians and Iran!
    1. 0
      30 May 2018 11: 47
      Quote: sib.ataman
      Israel does not want to negotiate with its neighbors, only recognizes force methods! And then he is surprised, or pretends to be surprised, in connection with the actions of the Palestinians and Iran!
      They study with Russia, Georgia, Ukraine, the Baltic states ... Do you already have Iran as neighbors of Israel, well, the fifth grade of an all-Arab school?
  12. +1
    30 May 2018 07: 44
    If you do not count a lot, then Israel loses to Palestine ... in terms of the economy of counteraction, the interception of one target by the Iron Dome can cost $ 30-50 thousand (and this is in the case of mass production of anti-missiles in large batches). For comparison, the cost of the Grad rocket is about $ 200, and the homemade Qassam - from $ XNUMX (these missiles are most often used by the militants of the Islamist organizations of the Gaza Strip to shell the territories of Israel), the figures were taken from the Internet. From the side it seems that all this is a purely joint business project between Israel and Palestine ... the people naturally suffer ... financing is struggling to fight this, but the business elite and the military of both countries have not bad gesheft.
    1. AUL
      +3
      30 May 2018 08: 39
      Yes, you have learned to count! We quite rightly noticed that $ 200 <$ 30000-50000. But the Jews consider it worse, because they think that the life of their compatriot is priceless and spend 50 thousand dollars on a hundred-ruble mine. They are fools!
      1. +2
        30 May 2018 08: 59
        No, not fools ... good traders, a gesheft is important.
    2. +5
      30 May 2018 08: 48
      The layout of the fifth grader you have .. By God. A bullet costs less than one cent, and a bulletproof vest a thousand bucks. Suggests throwing body armor away? Tamir interceptor costs thousands of dollars, and the power plant that it covers billions of dollars, houses millions of dollars and so on ...
      1. +2
        30 May 2018 09: 05
        Well dear ... you can always scoop up water, but you can also shut off the riser ... and then calmly repair it. Finances can be spent in different ways ... there is only one question ... who will receive more and more specifically ... or will it be a one-time investment.
  13. +1
    30 May 2018 07: 51
    Quote: Fayter2017
    And what prevents Israel from taking advantage of the USSR's experience of peaceful coexistence of many peoples?
    Why, as a comrade from Israel wrote here, in Palestine $ 100 is a lot of money, poor neighbors are potential enemies, that it is impossible to offer work and normal wages to the Arabs so that they value it and do not even think about confrontation with the Jews, in my life I will not believe that Jews are greedy and evil, I have always come across Toko adequate in life!)


    Jews are different, just like Russians and any other nations. But ordinary people are one thing, and a political bond is another! There, their nationality no longer plays a role in the establishment, as I understand it, but they live according to the laws of the jungle and the chicken coop (I won’t specify, I believe, people are aware), and it’s hard for us to understand them!
    1. AUL
      +1
      30 May 2018 08: 42
      Quote: sib.ataman
      There, in their establishment, nationality no longer plays a role, as I understand it, but they live according to the laws of the jungle and the chicken coop (I will not specify, I suppose, the people are aware), and it is difficult for us mortals to understand them!
      Like the whole world. And we are no exception!
    2. +1
      30 May 2018 11: 49
      Quote: sib.ataman
      it is difficult for us mortals to understand them!
      You don't understand, but you are shaking with nonsense.
  14. +3
    30 May 2018 07: 57
    Quote: Maz
    thirty. IN

    none of the existing and prospective air defense and missile defense systems can guarantee 100% target interception! no dome, no patriot, no prometheus
  15. 0
    30 May 2018 08: 00
    Quote: XXXIII
    Quote: Nix1986
    Sometimes it seems to me that the Hamaz-type groups now have a goal not to fight for the interests of the Palestinians, but to elementary terror and to get money for this from sponsors.

    The Arabs do not need a strong Israel, this has long been understood, and the peace treaties that Jews sometimes boast about are not retroactive. You've probably seen a video of how African tribes drink the blood of artiodactyls, and the Arabs are doing the same with Israel. By the way, Israel is doing this too, they learned from each other, they always exchange experience on a bilateral basis ...


    They are all: Semites and anti-Semitic Arabs! Their faith is different! Some are the warriors of Islam, others are chosen by God! They don’t want to negotiate, they want to be heroes who defeated either enemies or non-believers! That's how they spend time in their B. East! Go, so that it is not boring?
    1. +1
      30 May 2018 10: 00
      Quote: sib.ataman
      They are all: Semites and anti-Semitic Arabs! Their faith is different! Some are the warriors of Islam, others are chosen by God!
      They do not want to negotiate, they want to be heroes who have defeated either enemies or infidels!
      That's how they spend time in their B. East!
      Go, so that it is not boring?
      Yes, they feed each other with war, it's just that some neighbors don't want to live like that, but they are imposed these rules, BV is still wild in its morals ...
  16. 0
    30 May 2018 08: 09
    Quote: Wendigo
    Quote: Serg65
    Right! Only there were the Indians terrorists!

    Just don’t talk about the Indians, you don’t even fumble about 00,1%! Just take my word for it wassat

    Stop trying to talk about the topic of the genocide of the Indians, you don’t even understand one thousandth.
  17. +2
    30 May 2018 08: 18
    Quote: Nix1986
    Sometimes it seems to me that the Hamaz-type groups now have a goal not to fight for the interests of the Palestinians, but to elementary terror and to get money for this from sponsors.

    Or rather, from Iran ...
    1. +2
      30 May 2018 08: 47
      TUFAN (Elnur)
      Can Jews Get along with Muslims? I'll tell you a secret:
      One of the leading developers of the Iron Dome ... Israeli FRIEND!
    2. +1
      30 May 2018 11: 51
      Quote: TUFAN
      Or rather, from Iran ...
      Today it is Iran, but there were other sponsors, Qatar, for example.
  18. +2
    30 May 2018 08: 31
    Israel’s excellent reaction to the threat to its state, no snot in the form of a note of protest and a geyropsk court.
    1. +2
      30 May 2018 09: 42
      Quote: GEV67
      no snot in the form of a note of protest and a Geyrop court.


      That you are not familiar with the topic. Usually howl stands to the skies.
  19. 0
    30 May 2018 08: 45
    Quote: Tiras
    If Iran had not started building the infrastructure of terror in Syria, Israel would not have struck in Syria. This is easily seen from the situation before the war in Syria. Then the Iranian influence was much less and the confrontation between Israel and Iran in Syria was almost no


    You are absolutely right, didn't hit. laughing
    True, Israel secretly undermined the statehood of Syria. But when your plans were self-consciously violated, then the Jews decided to open the cards and, under various pretexts, decided to open hostility.
    However, permissiveness inspires lol
    1. +1
      30 May 2018 09: 49
      Quote: Traveler
      True Israel secretly undermined Syrian statehood


      How so?

      Quote: Traveler
      But when your plans were self-consciously broken


      What are your plans?
      Israel’s only plans for Syria are silence from Syria.
  20. 0
    30 May 2018 08: 54
    The exact number of missiles intercepted by the Iron Dome is not reported.


    naturally otherwise the Israelis will look stupid.

    "Iron Dome" (Hebrew כיפת ברזל - Kipat barzel, English Iron Dome - Airon Dome) is a tactical missile defense system designed to protect against unguided tactical missiles with a flight range from 4 to 70 kilometers
    .

    That is, the system is exclusively used to combat artisanal under-production. Israel has 9 batteries of the Iron Dome complex (3 batteries of launchers with 20 anti-missiles in each = 60 missiles). As a result, 9 batteries are 540 interceptor missiles ( it is in theory that 100 Grad launchers are enough for the Iron Dome to push through 15%, and this is provided that the Iron Dome has 100% interception efficiency (intercepts all 100% missiles).
    And one more interesting thing: each battery can protect an area of ​​150 square kilometers. As a result, nine batteries are able to protect 1350 square kilometers, but the problem is that the territory of Israel is 22072 square kilometers. That is, a stationary miracle weapon is able to protect only less than 10% of the territory. country.
    In general, everyone praises their toys.
    1. +1
      30 May 2018 09: 19
      The dome was not created to protect the entire territory of Israel, moreover, it does not shoot down missiles flying into the desert, into the sea, flights, undershoots. Only if there is a threat to human settlements and important infrastructures. And we make the domes ourselves, so there will be as many of them as needed. hi
      1. 0
        30 May 2018 14: 10
        Quote: dolfi1
        moreover, it does not shoot down missiles flying into the desert, into the sea, flights, undershoots.


        a good excuse for an expensive and mediocre weapon operating to cover an extremely narrow area from obsolete weapons.
    2. +1
      30 May 2018 09: 43
      Quote: lopvlad
      15 installations "Grad"


      Even a single hail installation will not last more than a few minutes. The Palestinians understand this perfectly.
      1. +1
        30 May 2018 14: 18
        Quote: Pimply
        Even one hail installation will not last more than a few minutes


        if you don’t cover anything, the “iron dome” will not survive even two minutes. There is no weapon in the world capable of protecting itself in the entire range of altitudes and speeds of various weapons.
        1. +1
          30 May 2018 20: 04
          Quote: lopvlad
          if you don’t cover anything, the “iron dome” will not survive even two minutes. There is no weapon in the world capable of protecting itself in the entire range of altitudes and speeds of various weapons.

          Does anyone argue with that?
  21. +1
    30 May 2018 09: 12
    In the meantime, the Israeli authorities accused Hamas of trying to attack targets not only near the borders, but also in the depths of Israeli territory.
    "the Israeli authorities have blamed Hamas", a group, by the way, funded, including by Israel and controlled by the Mossad. wassat
    Israel's fight against Hamas is reminiscent of the US's fight against ISIS - well, a very similar scheme.
    1. +2
      30 May 2018 09: 38
      Quote: flicker
      "the Israeli authorities have blamed Hamas", a group, by the way, funded, including by Israel and controlled by the Mossad.
      Israel's fight against Hamas is reminiscent of the US's fight against ISIS - well, a very similar scheme.

      Maybe they even go to one store ... wink
    2. +1
      30 May 2018 09: 51
      Quote: flicker
      "the Israeli authorities have blamed Hamas", a group, by the way, funded, including by Israel and controlled by the Mossad.


      This is not the first time I have read these fantasies of yours.
      Can you answer for your words or just throw it at the fan?


      Quote: flicker
      Israel's fight against Hamas is reminiscent of the US's fight against ISIS - well, a very similar scheme.


      Judging by the fantasies that you write, you don't really understand much about what you write about ... negative
      1. 0
        30 May 2018 10: 11
        This is not the first time I have read these fantasies of yours.
        Firstly, these are not my "fantasies", but the "fantasies" of more competent and knowledgeable Jews (in contrast to those that are written here on VO Yes - although they, I think, understand that this is true, they just don't talk about it out loud). And if this is so, then, secondly, this is no longer "fantasies", but completely information pulling on reality, in the modern world this is a completely working scheme - again, the example of the United States and ISIS.
        Well, if you consider it all "fantasies", then I sympathize and advise you to communicate more often with competent Jews.
        1. +1
          30 May 2018 10: 14
          Again there is a lot of water, but there are no facts.
          Why did you write a comment in which there is no meaning and not a single fact and confirmation of your words?
          1. +1
            30 May 2018 11: 13
            Is the US alliance and ISIS water? Do Jews consider the Mossad one of the strongest intelligence services in the world, or are they Jewish fantasies? And if not fantasies, then what do they do ... pick a finger in the nose or introduce agents? Hamas is an Islamic organization (as opposed to Fatah), and Islamic structures finance it, i.e. finance from outside (the same Saudis are quite friendly with Israel, this is understandably a common friend of the United States), who finances the one and orders the music.
            Palestinian resistance has existed for decades, and as stones were thrown, they continue to be thrown. Another thing is ISIS, don't understand where the Islamic EVIL came from, which for some reason is well trained to fight, weapons in bulk (there is a lot of money) and is fighting not with Jews, but with Islamic states. And the Palestinians continue to throw stones.
            But this is all water.
            Once again, I advise you to communicate only with competent Jews.
  22. +3
    30 May 2018 09: 55
    Quote: danan
    TUFAN (Elnur)
    Can Jews Get along with Muslims? I'll tell you a secret:
    One of the leading developers of the Iron Dome ... Israeli FRIEND!

    I am aware of the Druses and I heard about Tarifov from my father. I haven't heard about the development of the LCD, but from now on I will know and thanks for the info. You probably also know about our National Hero - a Jew. Israel is now trying to hait all and sundry and indiscriminately. This is, in principle, an indicator of success, the more fruits on a branch, the more it bends hi
  23. 0
    30 May 2018 10: 00
    In total, about 70 rockets and mines were fired at Israeli territory.

    ... For that fought for it and ran...
  24. +1
    30 May 2018 10: 08
    To Mars! The red planet is waiting for its conquerors!
    Interestingly, but what kind of special relationship to Mars do the elite have, no? Well, the god of war, according to Greek mythology!
  25. LMN
    +3
    30 May 2018 10: 08
    Why doesn't Israel solve this issue once and for all? request
    Every week they attack some objects, someone there ... intelligence reports to them. Well, if like this, they practically have information on live, well, they would attack everyone. Why stretch? what Why it was not possible to destroy this tunnel or the workshop with the master, during the previous attack? As practice shows, the lives of civilians of other states do not bother. Why not?

    Based on the comments of our Israeli friends, the Israeli army is superior in almost all aspects, well, for example, Russia. Why not destroy the terrorists of Palestine? request
  26. 0
    30 May 2018 10: 44
    Quote: professor
    The layout of the fifth grader you have .. By God. A bullet costs less than one cent, and a bulletproof vest a thousand bucks. Suggests throwing body armor away? Tamir interceptor costs thousands of dollars, and the power plant that it covers billions of dollars, houses millions of dollars and so on ...

    You got an incorrect comparison. The bullet-proof vest is like ukritiya - the best missile defense system in Israel in which people go despite the LCD.
    But spending $ 50 to intercept $ 1 is not a good idea. So it is possible to erase billions and in the end remain without interceptors and lose the power plant.
    1. LMN
      +3
      30 May 2018 11: 14
      Quote: Kostadinov
      Quote: professor
      The layout of the fifth grader you have .. By God. A bullet costs less than one cent, and a bulletproof vest a thousand bucks. Suggests throwing body armor away? Tamir interceptor costs thousands of dollars, and the power plant that it covers billions of dollars, houses millions of dollars and so on ...

      You got an incorrect comparison. The bullet-proof vest is like ukritiya - the best missile defense system in Israel in which people go despite the LCD.
      But spending $ 50 to intercept $ 1 is not a good idea. So it is possible to erase billions and in the end remain without interceptors and lose the power plant.

      It doesn't matter to them.
      First, they don't pay wink
      Secondly, you can always find a new home lol
    2. 0
      30 May 2018 11: 57
      Quote: Kostadinov
      But spending $ 50 to intercept $ 1 is not a good idea. So it is possible to erase billions and in the end remain without interceptors and lose the power plant.
      It is possible, but the war does not consist of a single episode, they launched a penny missile and blew up a multibillion-dollar Power Plant, was it worth launching an anti-missile missile in a couple of thousand so that this did not happen? It was worth it. And then the Air Force and Artillery come in, and if they don't help, they will roll out Gaza and prepare it for the asphalt paver.
  27. +1
    30 May 2018 11: 52
    Add a couple of cents to what has been said.
    1. By technique. No, there have never been and never will be air defense / missile defense systems with an 100% probability of intercepting targets. This time
    2. The Iron Dome is one of the most efficient and smart missile defense systems today, but it is unlikely to reach 100%. Why smart? Because he spends his ammunition wisely i.e. if he sees that the detected and followed target is not dangerous, then he does not shoot at it.
    3. Tricky question. And what would Russia do if one of its autonomies declared itself independent and began to bullet in nearby Russian villages, cities, etc. I doubt very much that Russia would only fend off shelling and inflict targeted attacks on the places from which the "goodies" fly. Most likely, there would have been a very tough sweep of a highly non-autonomous autonomy after which she would either have lost the desire to try Russia for a tooth or would have lost all autonomy along with all the "hunters". Let us recall the Second World War, when huge cities were demolished at the root, together with their population. And then no one then remembered the brutality of the "messengers" and did not file complaints with them to human rights organizations. In war, as in war. If the enemy does not give up - what is it .....? And even more so when it comes to Hezbollah or Hamas. After all, these are at 100% terrorist organizations which, in addition, coerce or bribe terror to all who fall under their control. It is not clear why Russia is hobbling with them. After all, there is a thug on a thug and a thug drives. Moreover, the bandits who are fixated on the idea of ​​demolishing the state of Israel from the face of the Earth. And they understand that the idea is a fixed idea, but they are raking in for such grandmothers that they could not get under any world. And so they killed the people to storm the fence, buried a hundred of their own people, you look at the coast of the Mediterranean Sea, a dozen other chic villas grew up where these bandits settle
    1. LMN
      +3
      30 May 2018 12: 12
      gregor6549
      3. A tricky question. And what would Russia do if one of its autonomies declared itself independent and began to shoot at nearby Russian villages, cities, etc. I doubt very much that Russia would only fight off the shelling and inflict pinpoint strikes at the places from which the "goodies" fly. Most likely, there would have been a very tough clean-up of a strongly independent autonomy, after which it would either have lost the desire to try Russia on the tooth or all autonomy would have disappeared along with all the "hunters".

      Everything is true and it will be Yes
      Counterquestion.
      The independence of the State of Palestine as of September 2015 was recognized by 136 of the 193 UN member states. Why would Palestine be the "autonomy" of Israel? request and why is Israel unable to resolve this issue physically?
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        30 May 2018 12: 57
        Quote: LMN
        The independence of the State of Palestine as of September 2015 was recognized by 136 of the 193 UN member states. Why would Palestine be the "autonomy" of Israel?

        Even if the “independence” of Fylystyn is recognized by 100500 states, then Fylystyn will not become independent of this. She will not have her own capital, currency, economy, army and other attributes of an independent state. Fylystyn has none of this (well, they don’t want to live at their own expense) and therefore Fylystyn is only autonomy.

        Quote: LMN
        and why is Israel unable to resolve this issue physically?

        Make the Fylystyns live at their own expense? Then it will be called genocide.
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    30 May 2018 14: 38
    Quote: farcop
    Quote: Kostadinov
    But spending $ 50 to intercept $ 1 is not a good idea. So it is possible to erase billions and in the end remain without interceptors and lose the power plant.
    It is possible, but the war does not consist of a single episode, they launched a penny missile and blew up a multibillion-dollar Power Plant, was it worth launching an anti-missile missile in a couple of thousand so that this did not happen? It was worth it. And then the Air Force and Artillery come in, and if they don't help, they will roll out Gaza and prepare it for the asphalt paver.

    1. Not only a penny, but a thousand-dollar rocket will not have time to blow up the power plant. At best, dozens of such missiles can cause some damage and the cost of repairs will be comparable to the cost of the missiles. A missile with a nuclear warhead costing several million dollars is another matter. Although even then the power plant will have a chance to escape only by fright and minor damage without any missile defense.
    2. Using money not for missile defense, but for the Air Force, artillery and missiles is a very good idea.
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    30 May 2018 15: 58
    Well, sort of bombed.
    About 80 nurses and mines fell on our territory. Somewhere 75-77 percent destroyed. Surprisingly well worked on mines, of which it was decent ... So far, no destruction has been recorded. More than half of the ammunition fell in the desert.
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    30 May 2018 18: 12
    Quote: Maz
    And they do not reveal the truth to the population,

    В
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    30 May 2018 18: 30
    Quote: XXXIII
    The performance characteristics of the car are not perfect,

    There is no 100% protection in the world. Iron dome 85-90% protection today in the world is second to none
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    30 May 2018 18: 33
    Quote: voyaka uh
    Here only the laser will have time, but they are pulling with its delivery to service

    It was tested with an iron dome, but it was concluded that the dome was more effective.
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    30 May 2018 18: 44
    Quote: Maz
    And the population is not told the truth

    Come and see! Don't try on your grief to others!
    AND PLEASE DO NOT WRITE STUFFLES AND ASK YOUR COUNTRY'S AIR, THEY CAN KNOCK ROCKETS FROM THE PIPES

    This is very old and true no more than 50% of your TV to the bone, but still
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    30 May 2018 19: 00
    Quote: professor
    Fylystyn is recognized by 100500 states, then Fylystyn will not become independent from this. It will not have its own capital, currency, economy, army and other attributes


    And you ask them if they want, where will they steal millions?

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