Ministry of Defense has raised the status of junior commanders

The system of the military department of Russia has undergone personnel reforms - now sergeants and warrant officers (warrant officers) are distributed after graduation, the Main Personnel Directorate of the Ministry of Defense (GUK MO), the order of appointment to the first position is signed by the deputy minister, News.

Under the new rules, educational institutions of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation for 15 days before graduation submit a draft order on sending junior commanders for military units to the GUK MO Personnel officers study the draft order, if necessary, make changes to it and submit it to the State Secretary of the Ministry for signature. Previously, the distribution was done by the training centers themselves.

As the founder of the Russian lawyers association of law enforcement agencies "Guard" Oleg Zherdev noted, taking the appointment of young specialists under his control, the State Directorate of the Ministry of Defense immediately raised their status, effectively equating them to the officers.

In addition, sergeants began to prepare on the basis of higher military educational institutions of the Ministry of Defense and in 67-mi civil universities.

Also, the Ministry of Defense is finalizing legislation (amending) on ​​benefits for junior commanders. For example, those who serve in the regions of the Far North or in remote garrisons have already received the right to follow their families with their families free of charge, not only by train, but also by plane in economy class.

Now the ministry intends to equalize the officers and sergeants in the right to sanatorium treatment. Wives of junior commanders serving in remote garrisons will be able to count on a benefit equal to one minimum wage, if there was no work for them. Other changes are expected to improve the living conditions of military personnel.

According to experts, the new system will allow the military department to get competent specialists in the most complex and sought-after military specialties.

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[Grandfather Makar]

Ministry of Defense has raised the status of junior commanders

These guys are the backbone of the Army and Navy! I hope that the generals will pinch off on these "workers of the armed forces of Russia"?

[Nasrat]

Quote: Ded-Makar

Ministry of Defense has raised the status of junior commanders

I hope that the generals will pinch off on these "workers of the armed forces of Russia"?

They will pinch off the pensioners ... and then ...

[Beholder]

"for signature to the state secretary of the ministry" - and he is appointed by the "generals" .... any questions?

[Krasnoyarsk]

Quote: Ded-Makar

Ministry of Defense has raised the status of junior commanders

These guys are the backbone of the Army and Navy! I hope that the generals will pinch off on these "workers of the armed forces of Russia"?

Why - pinch off? If they are under the contract, then they will receive under the terms of the contract, and if they are conscripts, well, they will receive both conscripts. I, in due time, received 28 full Soviet rubles.

[badens1111]

Quote: Ded-Makar

I hope that the generals will pinch off on these "workers of the armed forces of Russia"?

Um .. but what does the general have to do with it ??
Then, what kind of nonsense, the commander of the unit cannot dismiss the careless sergeant, because the order was signed by the state secretary ... this stupid system does not just interfere, it clearly works against the foundations of the Army.
You say the basis of the Army ... Maybe it is so, only to decide whether to raise the level of a sergeant is not from the chancellery, but from the Charter of the Armed Forces.
The experience of 35 msd, still the time of the GSVG, conducted by the commander at that time, A.Vladimirov, showed that the sergeant’s independence and condition for fulfilling his duties is that his role in commanding the squad is not replaced by an officer, it’s necessary to start from there, not from the Office.

[Doliva63]

Quote: badens1111

Quote: Ded-Makar

I hope that the generals will pinch off on these "workers of the armed forces of Russia"?

Um .. but what does the general have to do with it ??
Then, what kind of nonsense, the commander of the unit cannot dismiss the careless sergeant, because the order was signed by the state secretary ... this stupid system does not just interfere, it clearly works against the foundations of the Army.
You say the basis of the Army ... Maybe it is so, only to decide whether to raise the level of a sergeant is not from the chancellery, but from the Charter of the Armed Forces.
The experience of 35 msd, still the time of the GSVG, conducted by the commander at that time, A.Vladimirov, showed that the sergeant’s independence and condition for fulfilling his duties is that his role in commanding the squad is not replaced by an officer, it’s necessary to start from there, not from the Office.

I absolutely agree, colleague! Is 35 MSD not 20 GvOA?

[Vladimir Ter-Odiyants]

Quote: Ded-Makar

These guys are the backbone of the Army and Navy!

For a long time, it was time!

[Xnumx vis]

Victory Marshal Georgy Zhukov once said: “I and the sergeant command the army!”

[KVU-NSVD]

All this is correct in one case - when sergeants become financially responsible for the property entrusted to them and the real command link between the platoon and privates (freeing the platoon really from part of the load), and without having received benefits and preferences, they remain in the real world no responsibility for drinking companions and familiarity privates ... This is the opinion of a man who used to be a platoon of a separate platoon in the division, which had half of the sergeants under the command of a military unit ..

[kvs207]

A properly selected and trained sergeant completely replaces, in everyday life, an officer or ensign. They used to be treated by non-commissioners. This is the opinion of a man who at one time was a sergeant - platoon commander (construction troops).

[KVU-NSVD]

Everyone has their own experience, I do not claim to be the bearer of truth in the last resort.

[cost]

Ministry of Defense has raised the status of junior commanders

But this is correct. Long time ago there was talk about this, if memory serves since the end of the 80s of the last century

[Ross xnumx]

Ministry of Defense has raised the status of junior commanders

The best increase in the status of a commander is an increase in his monetary allowance ...

[AID.S]

Will the ministry also approve another affair?

[Fitter65]

Quote: AID.S

Will the ministry also approve another affair?

Taburetkin by the way tried to introduce this. On the basis of the Irkutsk VVATU they wanted to introduce a school of junior aviation specialists, sergeants. Moreover, it took 2 years to study as a sergeant !!!!! In general, I would have taught such sergeants for 2 years and have not seen one. My nephew received a sergeant in March, by order of the regiment commander.

[Fitter65]

Also, the Ministry of Defense is finalizing legislation (amending) on ​​benefits for junior commanders. For example, those who serve in the regions of the Far North or in remote garrisons have already received the right to follow their families with their families free of charge, not only by train, but also by plane in economy class.

Well, it was that all the military personnel serving under the contract (cottrabuses, warrant officers, officers) had the right to travel to the place of vacation with all members of the family at the expense of the Ministry of Defense. Personally, I went every year with my wife and daughter. Then came the brilliant stool manager. Canceled free travel to the family of a serviceman, or rather, a serviceman and one of the family members could go on vacation. But at least now it remains.

[Doliva63]

Quote: Fitter65

Also, the Ministry of Defense is finalizing legislation (amending) on ​​benefits for junior commanders. For example, those who serve in the regions of the Far North or in remote garrisons have already received the right to follow their families with their families free of charge, not only by train, but also by plane in economy class.

Well, it was that all the military personnel serving under the contract (cottrabuses, warrant officers, officers) had the right to travel to the place of vacation with all members of the family at the expense of the Ministry of Defense. Personally, I went every year with my wife and daughter. Then came the brilliant stool manager. Canceled free travel to the family of a serviceman, or rather, a serviceman and one of the family members could go on vacation. But at least now it remains.

That's right, nothing new. Wipe after Serdyukov, and served as a breakthrough.

[Siberian]

If you read carefully, you need to understand that this first order for graduation from the CA, assignment of the appropriate rank and appointment to the post after graduation, similarly and graduation, assignment of the first officer rank and appointment to the post after graduation, further displacements, appointments to the posts in the rights of the respective commanders and field commanders. The state secretary of the minister will definitely not be moving sergeants and ensigns.

[Doliva63]

Quote: sibiryk

If you read carefully, you need to understand that this first order for graduation from the CA, assignment of the appropriate rank and appointment to the post after graduation, similarly and graduation, assignment of the first officer rank and appointment to the post after graduation, further displacements, appointments to the posts in the rights of the respective commanders and field commanders. The state secretary of the minister will definitely not be moving sergeants and ensigns.

And will they be fired on every flight in the same way as a lieutenant? Madhouse.

[Fitter65]

Quote: sibiryk

If you read carefully, you need to understand that this is the first order to graduate from the CA, assigning the appropriate rank and appointment to the post after graduation,

Under the Union, the rank of warrant officer, a cadet who completed a course at the school of warrant officers, was awarded the rank by order of the commander of the district in which the institution was located. I was assigned the commander of the LenVO, studied at Novoselitsy, although I arrived to study from military unit P.P. 62545 and after assigning the rank to my own unit, I left ..

[Doliva63]

Quote: Fitter65

Quote: sibiryk

If you read carefully, you need to understand that this is the first order to graduate from the CA, assigning the appropriate rank and appointment to the post after graduation,

Under the Union, the rank of warrant officer, a cadet who completed a course at the school of warrant officers, was awarded the rank by order of the commander of the district in which the institution was located. I was assigned the commander of the LenVO, studied at Novoselitsy, although I arrived to study from military unit P.P. 62545 and after assigning the rank to my own unit, I left ..

Close military world however! "He who does not die in Novoselitsy is not afraid of Buchenwald." He studied there in the 81st.

[Fitter65]

Quote: Doliva63

"He who does not die in Novoselitsy is not afraid of Buchenwald." He studied there in the 81st.

Summer 85go.1 company 11 platoon.

[Doliva63]

Quote: Fitter65

Quote: Doliva63

"He who does not die in Novoselitsy is not afraid of Buchenwald." He studied there in the 81st.

Summer 85go.1 company 11 platoon.

Autumn of the 81st. Also 1 company, I do not remember a platoon.

[dgonni]

Someone in the Ministry of Defense sharply needed to arrange a staff of their people for bread positions? For signing a pile of papers to the deputy minister is somehow not very comme il faut and is necessary for the staff. In general, someone from their break off in Moscow apartment, company car and non-acidic earnings. Well, everything is like always :)

[Landsknecht]

So it has long been. With regards to warrant officers, graduates of secondary vocational education institutions of higher education. since 2015. Sergeants graduates of the secondary vocational education and training institute of higher education were from submission of a stool for 12-14 years when he wanted sergeants in the US Army.
And all contract soldiers have access to the place of vacation, whether it is an ordinary or foreman. （In the North）. Article by nothing. What is and has been imputed to what will be. That is, we must say thanks for this？

[nelson]

But what about the “buyers” of the preferred parts?

[Doliva63]

"... The GUK MO immediately increased their status, effectively equating them with officers."
What nonsense. Or did the journalists clumsily understand, or did Shoigu have an inferiority complex?

[cordon332]

It’s high time. All contracted servicemen should have equal social rights - vacation, housing, travel, treatment, etc.

[Monarchist]

In my opinion, there is a lot of useful things: the GUK should know better where and who is needed. That leveling sergeants in the garrison of the Far North with the officers in the sanatorium is good.
Every army rests on sergeants (non-commissioned officers) and junior officers. Somewhere I read that the Prussian army, and then the German army rested on the personnel non-commissioned officer and village teacher, they became junior officers by mobilization), and if so our army needs to take care of its base

[Monarchist]

Quote: dgonni

Someone in the Ministry of Defense sharply needed to arrange a staff of their people for bread positions? For signing a pile of papers to the deputy minister is somehow not very comme il faut and is necessary for the staff. In general, someone from their break off in Moscow apartment, company car and non-acidic earnings. Well, everything is like always :)

And where is this not?

[Evil 55]

Again, the project was a woodpecker without a military education and service experience ... For 15 days, the State Administration for Management of Communications, even from administration to administration, will not be able to transfer the docks, not to mention something else ..

[Tavrik]

I also drew attention to this. Nonsense. I think they messed up something.

[Moore]

Personnel officers study the draft order, if necessary, make changes to it and transmit it to the state secretary of the ministry for signature.

Did Hitrozadom the spineless Pankov finally find an occupation?

[seacap]

Quote: Nasr

They will pinch off the pensioners ... and then ...

So have long nipped. Not only is the only category of civil servants in the country discriminated against on a professional basis, infringed on their rights with a decreasing pension coefficient, even the law was changed for it, so are those who served in the most difficult time for the country, humiliated and insulted, practically at the state level, continuing to defend the interests of the powers in numerous conflicts, preserving the traditions of the Russian and Soviet army, betrayed and slandered by their own state elite, they are subjected to discrimination and humiliation in our time, receiving a pension even less without recalculating salaries. And everyone continues to remain silent, pretend that everything is in order, why pay the deadline for the spent material, which gave health and better years, its talent to serve the state, voluntarily made its choice and renounced civil liberties for the service and protection of their country and people.

[faterdom]

No, only Shoigu needs. Or you know who. Otherwise, such a sergeant or, especially, a warrant officer, will not be able to serve well, having harbored forever the grudge from such a bitter humiliation!
In general, it is better to entrust this business to the computer, digitalization, so digitalization! And instead of the GUK (or whatever it is called now) - Art. the ensign is the Chief system administrator, and two ensigns are the system administrator. It will be such savings - “Husky", 20 "Daggers" and three "Relights" enough.

[sib.ataman]

And the ensigns and sergeants, of course, are the workhorses of the army — it’s as clear as God's day to anyone who served in the armed forces! But after Zhukov, their role was so dropped in the army that they were mainly nominal commanders. Only already in the role of an old sergeant could the sergeant dare to command as needed (if the brains had not gone crazy at that time, everything depended on the officers), in other cases it was done either by platoons, or even senior servicemen. And all because their status was fake, and their rights were not backed up at all (many sergeants had to reinforce him with their fists!). And it was a paradox! In the US Army, the first lieutenant was given to the sergeant for half a year to be eaten (for practical training), and in our young sergeant they were given to the expensive horsepower to be eaten. Not many withstood this eating!
It was much easier with the ensigns: both the status was registered, and the rights were confirmed, and he was a materially responsible person.
And while all this continued in our own army, hazing and flourishing, and poor discipline and damage to HP property, flourished. and even a lot of what! Let's see what changes now.

[sib.ataman]

Quote: seacap

Quote: Nasr

They will pinch off the pensioners ... and then ...

So have long nipped. Not only is the only category of civil servants in the country discriminated against on a professional basis, infringed on their rights with a decreasing pension coefficient, even the law was changed for it, so are those who served in the most difficult time for the country, humiliated and insulted, practically at the state level, continuing to defend the interests of the powers in numerous conflicts, preserving the traditions of the Russian and Soviet army, betrayed and slandered by their own state elite, they are subjected to discrimination and humiliation in our time, receiving a pension even less without recalculating salaries. And everyone continues to remain silent, pretend that everything is in order, why pay the deadline for the spent material, which gave health and better years, its talent to serve the state, voluntarily made its choice and renounced civil liberties for the service and protection of their country and people.

I support you, but is it worth splashing out emotions where flowers do not grow on stones?

[Tavrik]

Raising the status should begin with expanding the rights of sergeants. In terms of punishing subordinates.