“KamAZ” and “Ural” will be replaced by new cars

In the 2018, the Armed Forces of Russia will begin to receive new Tornado cars, said on radio Эхо Москвы Chief of the Main Automobile and Armored Directorate of the Defense Ministry of the Russian Federation, Lieutenant-General Alexander Shevchenko.

According to the general, this year will be a turning point for equipping automobile troops. Absolutely new, advanced cars are expected to arrive, which in the future will replace the famous KamAZ and Urals.

These are the machines of the Tornado family that have already been tested, and the Ministry of Defense begins the purchase of the first batch. Earlier, the General Staff decided to re-equip the tactical level of protected vehicles "Typhoon".

Shevchenko said that Tornado cars, which absorbed all the best from KamAZ and Ural, meet all modern requirements, have 16-20 tonnes carrying capacity, are equipped with a powerful propulsion system, a new transmission and suspension.

He also noted that the military campaign in the SAR showed the need to create such a vehicle that is able to provide its crew with the greatest protection. According to the general, the Typhoon family of vehicles fully comply with these requirements. This is a completely new type of car, which previously had only to dream. Today "Typhoons" massively go to the troops.

According to Shevchenko, in the coming 2-3 of the year, automobile troops will drastically change their appearance: the military "Urals" and "KamAZ" will become rare, on the roads will appear completely different machines - "Tornado" and "Typhoon".

Earlier it was reported that the Tornado cars were tested in the sands of Astrakhan and Elbrus, showing excellent results.

Comments

[Real russian]

He served in the times of the USSR in Kamaz, then in the Urals. Great cars!

[Aristarkh Lyudvigovich]

Kamaz is always ahead. If there is a column on the highway, KAMAZ must be ahead.

[Chertt]

It is expected the arrival of completely new, advanced cars, which in the future will replace the famous KamAZ trucks and Urals.

Naturally, the "Tornado" and "Typhoon" are much more expensive, so the question arises "Otkel is such wealth (c)"

[Hire]

said on air of Echo of Moscow the head of the Main Armored Directorate of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation, Lieutenant General Alexander Shevchenko.

In general, I thought that "Echo ..." works to accumulate liberals and work with them. The lost ones are re-educated and enlightened, the stubborn ones are taken on a pencil. "We love you all" (c).

[Hagalaz]

And it's not just the price, but also the viability. But probably this article does not cover the issue sufficiently, or Shevchenko did not admit accuracy. Typhoons and Tornadoes are for transporting personnel and are not intended for transporting ammunition and other army shmurdyak. And here, in my opinion, there is nothing more rational than a tented side body.

[Piramidon]

Quote: Hagalaz

Typhoons and Tornadoes for the transport of personnel and are not intended for the transport of ammunition and other army shmurdyak

I would also add that in the rear and l / s it moves perfectly on ordinary tented KamAZ trucks. Why carry, for example, flying and those. composition at the airport in armored vehicles? So here it is:

military "Urals" and "KamAZ" will become a rarity on the roads

- overkill. They won’t go anywhere.

[Yarhann]

a typhoon but for personnel, but a tornado is precisely a modern army truck with a protected cabin both from small arms and from mines and land mines. these are normal modern trends in the development of army trucks. It’s one thing when you roll something in the rear and the likelihood of an IED or a queue tends to zero, and another thing is the near rear or the delivery of goods through disputed territories - an example in the same Syria.
The cars have always attacked and will attack, and the only one who can bring the car out of under fire is the driver of this car, therefore it is logical to protect it - in the future, of course, such a technique will be on autopilot.

[Bad_gr]

Quote: Hagalaz

Typhoons and Tornadoes are for transporting personnel and are not intended for transporting ammunition and other army shmurdyak. And here, in my opinion, there is nothing more rational than a tented side body.

Can be combined: the armored cabin, and for the cargo a simple body. For a war zone, that’s it.

[Andrey Kandakov]

20 tons of personnel in one place - I would like to see it

[would]

Typhoons and Tornadoes are for transporting personnel and are not intended for transporting ammunition and other army shmurdyak.

Here you are wrong. Typhoons and Tornadoes have several versions, including where only the cabin is protected, and behind, for example, an awning.

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[Cellulitis]

Without modernization - utopia! In addition, if you put these vehicles on the conveyor, sending them to all countries, then you can also go on self-sufficiency ...

[Alber]

Quote: Chertt

It is expected the arrival of completely new, advanced cars, which in the future will replace the famous KamAZ trucks and Urals.
Naturally, the Tornado and Typhoon are much more expensive

Quote: Hire

said on air of Echo of Moscow the head of the Main Armored Directorate of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation, Lieutenant General Alexander Shevchenko.

In general, I thought that "Echo ..." works to accumulate liberals and work with them. The lost ones are re-educated and enlightened, the stubborn ones are taken on a pencil. "We love you all" (c).

Typhoon, Tornado ...
Names are some Amer. Interestingly, is there really no name for our technique in Russian that we are looking for words across the ocean in hostile countries?

[Nikolai Grek]

Quote: Alber

Typhoon, Tornado ...
Names are some Amer. Interestingly, is there really no name for our technique in Russian that we are looking for words across the ocean in hostile countries?

Hurricane, Tornado - not American ???

[Anatoly R]

Due to the level of social security of Russians. And this is a severe necessity.

[Arhi tektor]

retirement age 68/70 !! that’s all wealth.

[Artem Popov]

Damn him, he will eat 2+ times more fuel, operating costs and increased supplies for each military unit will eat up the budget until it is written off.

[210ox]

A column of what? The same KAMAZ?

Quote: Aristarkh Lyudvigovich

Kamaz is always ahead. If there is a column on the highway, KAMAZ must be ahead.

[Maxim Polushkov]

KAMAZ-generally Mr., but not a car. Nedotyachik, nedomagistralnik ... Damn those what! On cross-country KAMAZ compared to the Urals, the sediment is complete. And what is ahead of the column, so Mr. is not sorry. Mines have not been canceled.

[Cellulitis]

You’re cruel to KAMAZ, although you’re probably right ...

[Maxim Polushkov]

Yes, it’s just a bit sick of it: the military whine “give us the Urals” - ordinary, bonnet, and for political reasons they push this misunderstanding- “KAMAZ” - you need to upload some money to Tatarstan, so that you won’t have another “New Year’s storm” there. And the Miass plant, which produces the Urals, is bent with a complete lack of funding and advertising.

[Eget54]

nonsense froze. RT has many preferences after Yeltsin’s: take sovereignty as much as you want - taxes, oil industry, gas, and you're talking about AvtoVAZ’s analogue ...
“New Year’s assault” will not work, because the Tatars are the 2nd most numerous people in the Russian Federation. only, this number is artificially reduced (in the same Bashkiria, the Tatars were recorded as Bashkorts during the census). in the same Miass, the same Russians, Tatars and Bashkirs live, as in Chelny.
in general, the current KamAZ produces a fairly wide range of chassis, demanded in the country and not produced by the Miass.

[Sergey ippon]

the Urals are better in every way.
patency, traction, repair.

[Tiksi-3]

Quote: Real Russian

He served in the days of the USSR in Kamaz, then in the Urals

I hit a lot on ZIL -157 ..... the beast is a car, but just what kind of oak kapets))

[alatanas]

From zero to one hundred - in 4 seconds (in degrees Celsius)!

[Sergey ippon]

and most importantly, non-breaking)

[Lock36]

Equipment in the company was on the Ural-475. 90 liters !!!! 95th gasoline !!!! 100 km !!!!

[cost]

Is shishiga gas -66?
Today is the Day of the Border Guard How not to remember this wonderful car

[Yura]

Quote: Rich

Is shishiga gas -66?

The car is beautiful, but it’s a different class, it’s a cleaver and a truck, it’s a dump truck, it’s both an onboard truck and a tractor and with a screw rotor for cleaning snow and the devil knows who he just was not, so unpretentious that any driver could repair it almost in the field , and patency is not worse than shishigi.

[Oleg14774]

Quote: Rich

Is shishiga gas -66?
Today is the Day of the Border Guard How not to remember this wonderful car

Happy Border Guard Day! Good luck, peace, prosperity! In general, all the best to you guys, thank you and low bow for the service! Yours faithfully!

[Megatron]

For a long time we have URALS began to ride 95? Maybe at 98 right away ??

[alexvdv78]

Well, at the beginning of their lives, the “Urals” came with gasoline engines and were delivered to the GSVG, where there were no problems with gasoline. Diesel delivered much later. So in the army there were quite a few gas urals and they ate 92 and 95 benz.

[Pashhenko Nikolay]

At that time there was neither the 92nd nor the 95th. Then it was the 93rd.

[Doliva63]

Quote: alexvdv78

Well, at the beginning of their lives, the “Urals” came with gasoline engines and were delivered to the GSVG, where there were no problems with gasoline. Diesel delivered much later. So in the army there were quite a few gas urals and they ate 92 and 95 benz.

In the GSVG there were both carburetor and diesel Urals.

[Cellulitis]

76 they ate from the beginning of their time ...

[serezhasoldatow]

Poured into them 93, 92 95 was not in sight.

[lis-ik]

Quote: Megatron

For a long time we have URALS began to ride 95? Maybe at 98 right away ??

It was Ural-95 that drove 375 gasoline.

[Servisinzhener]

That's it, and have long traveled back to the USSR. When gas prices were not under 50 rubles. Ural-375 with a Zilovsky seven-liter gasoline carburetor V8 at 92-95 and drove.

[Achtaba1970]

Ural-375 went to AI-93, then there were 72 and 76 gasolines, 80, 92, 95 and 98 weren’t yet

[lis-ik]

Quote: Achtuba1970

Ural-375 went to AI-93, then there were 72 and 76 gasolines, 80, 92, 95 and 98 weren’t yet

In the GSVG URAL-375N, I personally drove 95 gasoline, and I would have leaked it, but there was nobody to do it, because the secret part was, Point y.

[justas-xnumx]

And in some places, A-66 and A-60 also came across gasoline, but these honeycombs were mainly sold from fuel trucks, at 3 (three) kopecks per liter (72 years). The Ural-375th worked on the AI-93, the flow rate was from 50 to 85 liters, depending on the purpose of the machine, the “374th” (without front-axle drive) worked on the A-72/76, because intended for the "national economy" and he had a deformed motor.

[viktor.]

Ural 375 worked on 93 gasoline consumption of 50 liters per 100km.

[Lock36]

You, apparently, in those days attended kindergarten.

[Siberian]

Quote: Lock36

Equipment in the company was on the Ural-475. 90 liters !!!! 95th gasoline!!!! 100 km !!!!

In the Ural-375 poured AI-93, well, how they poured ... basically they drained and wrote off)))

[Lock36]

Perhaps so, long ago it was.

[Cellulitis]

What gasoline ?!)))) maybe the 100th ?! specialist

[Anatoly R]

The fighter bursts as much.

[Maxim Polushkov]

When the Urals were gasoline, no one had heard about the 95th. And he went on the 76th. But it was so long ago that even I already badly remember those Urals.

[Sergey ippon]

in a union, benz stood like water, as it should be with its own.
do not care how much I ate - my boots were washed with benz.

[Grandfather Makar]

Quote: Real Russian

He served in the times of the USSR in Kamaz, then in the Urals. Great cars!

Excellent and proven over the years in hot spots ... But these.

Russia will begin to receive new cars "Tornado"

The names alone are already angry from the soul! Well, why ?
Do they specifically come up with such names bastards?

[Alexander Romanov]

Quote: Ded-Makar

it is necessary "
The names alone are already angry from the soul! Well, why ?

Correctly Mikhan, why do army armored cars, women still give birth to soldiers.

Quote: Ded-Makar

Do they specifically come up with such names bastards?

Sorry to forget to ask you what to call maishna

[Grandfather Makar]

Quote: Alexander Romanov

why army armored cars, women soldiers still give birth.

It’s not for you to decide this with the Jews Sasha!

Quote: Alexander Romanov

Sorry to forget to ask you what to call maishna

And the car was dumbly called by your (in Jewish)))) hehe
She will be renamed necessarily ..! Not a Russian name ...
I would call the mashigu "Kolobok"! Rolls and rolls

[Alexander Romanov]

Quote: Ded-Makar

Do not you decide with Jews there Sasha

But the Jews do not decide anything. Like Thank God you are.

Quote: Ded-Makar

And the car was dumbly named in your (Jewish)))

I didn’t know that Tornado is Jewish

Quote: Ded-Makar

I would call the mashigu "Kolobok"! Rolls and rolls

So roll the bun

[Yura]

Quote: Ded-Makar

Are they specially inventing such names

Here I agree with you, but there is a Tornado, there is a Hurricane, I would suggest that they call "Tornado on your head" or "A Hurricane Along," they don’t understand. And so it is with an eye on potential buyers abroad, so that their ears caress and attract attention, that is, evoke associations with something formidable and all-destructive, frightening.

[cost]

Sasha, Vitaly is completely breaking your spears because of the name of the car. All the same, it will eventually be renamed by soldiers

[Yura]

Quote: Rich

All the same, it will eventually be renamed by soldiers

Well, yes, as an example, the same shishiga, cleaver, motorcycle league, etc.

[Freeman]

Quote: Jura

Quote: Rich

All the same, it will eventually be renamed by soldiers

Well, yes, as an example, the same shishiga, cleaver, motorcycle league, etc.

In the CHF, diesel Urals, those with the letter “D” in the model name, were called “Dashki”. But their gasoline versions, with the index "K" (carburetor), EMNIP - "Natashki".
For the second, the nickname seems illogical, but apparently so it was considered more consonant with the first.

[Yura]

"Dashki" "Natashki"

It’s loving, though sometimes from this love it’s all in fuel oil, but it’s satisfaction, after repair.

[AlexVas44]

Quote: Freeman

In the CHF, diesel Urals, those with the letter “D” in the model name, were called “Dashki”. But their gasoline versions, with the index "K" (carburetor), EMNIP - "Natashki".

Figured it out myself? If only I looked at the directories. It’s easy.
- Ural-375D - had an all-metal cabin. Release since 1964. - Ural-375K - for operation in the Far North.

[Freeman]

Quote: AlexVas44

Quote: Freeman

In the CHF, diesel Urals, those with the letter “D” in the model name, were called “Dashki”. But their gasoline versions, with the index "K" (carburetor), EMNIP - "Natashki".

Figured it out myself? If only I looked at the directories. It’s easy.
- Ural-375D - had an all-metal cabin. Release since 1964. - Ural-375K - for operation in the Far North.

I will not argue. So to me, then still "kid", garrison "carriers" (about "letters") told.
Or I remember that.

[Grandfather Makar]

Quote: Rich

Sasha, Vitaly is completely breaking your spears because of the name of the car. All the same, it will eventually be renamed by soldiers

Like "Shishiga" ... Well, you're right, it was here that I started to drive the blizzard

[faterdom]

I hope you do not mean Ural -375? If 4320 agree, but the 375th is a very controversial car that did not have a 500 km range in the tank (these were actually the requirements for military vehicles).

[AlexVas44]

Quote: faterdom

here is the 375th - a very controversial car that did not have a range of 500 km on the tank

Had, and even with a margin. Onboard Ural-375 - the capacity of tanks is 360 liters with a gasoline consumption of 50 to 69 liters. Etc. Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation No. 65 of 1992 Estimate ...

[Krasnoyarsk]

Quote: Real Russian

He served in the times of the USSR in Kamaz, then in the Urals. Great cars!

Yes, who would argue. But there is a question - KAMAZ and the Urals got their name from the manufacturer's factory, and where, in which factory, will the Tornado be made?

[cariperpaint]

Rather, it is necessary to fix right away that not the KAMAZ and the Urals will disappear but will simply become different. For a typhoon and a tornado is not a car brand.

[Alex 2016]

Totally agree with you! Kamaz and the Urals are Kamaz and the Urals, whatever you call them. Excellent and reliable cars.

[Real russian]

Quote: cariperpaint

Rather, it is necessary to correct immediately that not the KAMAZ and the Urals will disappear and in

- I agree!
-

[DenZ]

Does this “Tornado” have any designation (Kamaz, Ural or Che)? What is the article about? The fact that there is a mythical "Tornado" which is "best of all"?

[cariperpaint]

They just wrote clumsily and that's it. This is simply the evolution of KAMAZ and Urals under the new realities. Well, let's call it just the new models in the line of their military vehicles.

[DenZ]

Yes, I walked, calmed down. At the Ural AZ in Miass, they’ll probably do it. Urals do not disappear anywhere. The title of the article is generally "not in an arc." Glad for Miass, although there will be more work in the city.

[cariperpaint]

Well, what can you do) is such a way in the modern world to convey information. Through one place)

[NEXUS]

Quote: cariperpaint

This is simply the evolution of KAMAZ and Urals under the new realities.

It is true that shopping mall Typhoon-U and Typhoon-K are the same Urals and Kamazs, only armored and modernized.

[badens1111]

Oh yes ... Shurik Golden saucer, he won’t miss his ...

[Altona]

But will it come out a little expensive? A massive unpretentious army car is also needed to supply troops at least. Yes, and infantry to the front line can be carried on a simpler technique.

[seregatara1969]

What car factory did they build and launch? then is it a new car or a model of existing kamaz and urals?

[Olddetractor]

“Tornado-U”: army heavy-duty vehicle - https://topwar.ru/112117-tornado-u-armeyskiy-avto
mobil-povyshennoy-gruzopodemnosti.html

[dnestr74]

With a kind word, I remember the Urals, I have never failed how many columns I drove with ammunition, the second company in Chechnya is an excellent car for the army, which diesel)

[Zomanus]

In the coming 2-3 years, at best, in critical areas, the fleet will be updated.
And in the Far East and in Transbaikalia ...

[Alexander Romanov]

Quote: Zomanus

And in the Far East and in Transbaikalia ...

As usual, then, years through 4-5

[cariperpaint]

They are not needed there in such quantities now. It’s enough that there is now

[Servisinzhener]

The cars are certainly good, but how well justified is the complete replacement of all trucks with armored versions.

[sergei28]

He also noted that the military campaign in the SAR showed the need to create such a car that is able to provide its crew to the greatest protection.

complete nonsense

[RUSS]

In the first photo, not a Typhoon or a Tornado, but some sort of semi-finished products. It’s like an armored cabin and only ...

[Chicha squad]

This is the Ural Tornado

[dgonni]

Fine! cars suggest at least survival in the event of a crew detonation on classic anti-tank mines. What is gut! A tornado in fact a replacement for Krazam, too long a base but an overs of carrying capacity, typhoon? In fact, a tactical armored car with many production options. From just a car to a platform for something we still don’t know about.

[sergei28]

ral-63095 Typhoon - a multifunctional modular armored car class MRAP. That is, his armor protects against armor-piercing bullets fired from a 14,5 mm heavy machine gun and small arms, and mine protection against powerful improvised explosive devices and HEs (up to 8 kg of TNT under the bottom). Like any MRAP, it can be used as a reconnaissance, command-and-staff vehicle, electronic warfare or communications vehicle, ambulance or automobile for engineering, radiation, chemical and biological reconnaissance, as well as personnel transportation itself (from 12 to 16 people per depending on the modification - not counting the crew of three) and cargo.
So, at the International military-technical forum “Army-2015” the Ural-63704-0010 Tornado-U heavy-duty vehicle was first publicly demonstrated.

[sergei28]

Brief specifications
Ural-63095 Typhoon Ural-63704-0010 "Tornado-U" Ural-4320 (for reference)
Weight, t 24 30 (14 and cargo - 16) 21,3 (10,5 and cargo - 10)
Wheel formula 6x6 6x6 6x6
Dimensions, length/width/height, mm 9695/2550/3400 7366/2500/2715 (with awning – 3005)
Clearance, mm Variable 400 400
YaMZ-5367 engine, 450 hp 440 HP KamAZ-740, YaMZ-236NE2 or YaMZ-238, 200-300 hp
Highway speed, km/h 105 100 85
Cruising range on the highway, km 1 800 1
Suspension Independent, two wishbones, pneumohydraulic Dependent, leaf spring Dependent, leaf spring
Gradeability 60% 60% 60%
Crossable ford, m 1,8 1,8 1,25

[Zaurbek]

He also noted that the military campaign in the SAR showed the need to create such a car that is able to provide its crew with the greatest protection. According to the general, the machines of the Typhoon family fully comply with these requirements.

But the wars in Afghanistan and the Chechen Republic share little material for such a great solution?

[Evil 55]

Yeah .. Well, well ... and the diesel again will be forty kopecks ...

[alekc75]

and how are the roads ??? they will smash the roads with their weight

[Doliva63]

So, in the army there are full-time infantry fighting vehicles / armored personnel carriers for transporting personnel "on business", and who will they carry whom?

[brdm]

"According to Shevchenko, in the next 2-3 years, automobile troops will radically change their appearance: the military" Urals "and" KamAZs "will become a rarity, completely different vehicles will appear on the roads" Aha)) In bent)). Give Tornado into space !!!, like Tesla))

[Nikolay Fedorov]

Quote: from article

According to Shevchenko, in the next 2-3 years, automobile troops will radically change their appearance: the military “Urals” and “KamAZs” will become a rarity ...

I think that Shoigu should take a closer look at his head of the Main Armored Directorate of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation. Not only that, he with news about the army climbed to the radio station, where they hate this army. So he also, it turns out, was going to change the entire fleet of aircraft! What for?! Where is he going to put the wonderful Kamaz and Urals? To write off? Sell ​​for nothing? And instead of these magnificent, well-proven machines, he was going to put much more expensive Tornadoes and Typhoons ?! What is it, like Chubais, there is nowhere to give money ?!
Tornado and Typhoon - cars are good and necessary, no doubt. But for logistics, why are they so expensive? Garbage in the trash and, exactly, from the army pigsties, too, to transport to the Tornado? And the salabons in training from the barracks to the training center, too, on the Tornado? Absurd? Of course, absurd! Then maybe it should not be a rarity Kamaz, Urals, and Zila with Lawns?

[Xscorpion]

Quote: Hagalaz

And it's not just the price, but also the viability. But probably this article does not cover the issue sufficiently, or Shevchenko did not admit accuracy. Typhoons and Tornadoes are for transporting personnel and are not intended for transporting ammunition and other army shmurdyak. And here, in my opinion, there is nothing more rational than a tented side body.

That's right, they just replace the usual tented cars for transporting drugs, as well as Ural armor. And for the property and b / p there will be old cars.

Quote: Ded-Makar

Quote: Real Russian

He served in the times of the USSR in Kamaz, then in the Urals. Great cars!

Excellent and proven over the years in hot spots ... But these.

Russia will begin to receive new cars "Tornado"

The names alone are already angry from the soul! Well, why ?
Do they specifically come up with such names bastards?

Calm down. These tested cars burned down in hundreds of hot spots along with thousands of boys. They are not being taken out of service, they will just work for their intended purpose, transportation of goods. And just a question, are you allergic to Tornadoes or your own futility? This name is not invented, it is the name of a natural phenomenon. For example, let me say it from my soul, when people hear that if someone coughed somewhere, they immediately start yelling that he is suffering from tuberculosis. This is just your case.

[Yarhann]

everything is right where they shoot and undermine, not civilian cross-country vehicles like the Urals and KAMAZs should be used, namely, special army trucks with armor of the cabin and passenger compartment as well as protection from IEDs. No one will write them off for scrap, but exclusively similar machines should work in operations like the Syrian one.

[Wolka]

dogs (Ural) just do not touch ...

[Dzafdet]

Khan to our factory. What will he produce instead of the Urals? They write Ural-Next, but without army orders it will fly into the pipe .. From the report: the average salary at the plant is 17 rubles .. This year they want to bring up to 000 rubles. Achievement however ...

[Vadim237]

They will produce Tornado U, Typhoon U and construction equipment based on the Ural Next.

[Potter]

I do not understand what to discuss some illiterate nonsense. There is nothing to expect from the echo of qualified materials.
Here is an article about the Tornado family.
https://topwar.ru/112117-tornado-u-armeyskiy-avto
mobil-povyshennoy-gruzopodemnosti.html
These are the products of the URAL automobile plant. Index of the main 3-axis model Ural-63704-0010 “Tornado-U”. In the family of cars with the formula 4x4, 6x6, 8x8. Booking is possible, but armored modification is just one of many.

[timgan777]

yes yes believe the echo more)))

[Vlvl]

Always been an ardent supporter of simple and reliable machines such as the Urals. KAMAZ is difficult to maintain and capricious equipment with a not very good engine. In the hands of a young, not an experienced ordinary conscript of turnover, it quickly fails. But time goes on and now the army is becoming more and more professional. And the hostilities are different. And the need for such special cars is long overdue. And then like a fuel truck, since naked on a powder keg. I remember from the storage of the Maz-200 in Afghanistan they were preparing. Though with bulletproof vests hang up a cabin. Good canceled at the last moment. By the way, the Urals are just the pioneers in Gazprom.

[izNska]

Do not understand. And where do the “Tornado” and “Typhoon” do? In Kremenchug?

[serezhasoldatow]

And will they also carry potatoes on armored vehicles?

[Vladimir SHajkin]

These are the same Kamazs and Urals, only in a different configuration

[major147]

Oh, youth!

[AlexVas44]

Quote: major147

Oh, youth!

I can also recall the youth and the Ural-375, which were so few that even from the Chelyabinsk school they were attracted to the parade in Sverdlovsk, therefore such a coloring. (Don’t forget myself - I’m in the center).

[Artmat]

"... on the air of Ekho Moskvy radio, the chief of the Main Armored Directorate of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation, Lieutenant General Alexander Shevchenko ..." ??? - is this some sort of mockery? Here it is now popped on the Ear for something to crack? I do not believe!

[vladimych]

Just the other day, near St. Petersburg, a military convoy, several Kamaz trucks, a dozen 131st, another dozen 66th and two Urals came across a meeting. And I thought the 131st went into oblivion in the nineties.

[ver_]

Quote: Real Russian

He served in the times of the USSR in Kamaz, then in the Urals. Great cars!

.. not just for the same reason they built the Kama Association of Heavy Vehicles - 7 plants .. Vasiliev - deputy minister * cut circles * along the assembly line at the end of the month .., mdya - youth ..

[mc1aren]

a typhoon is a KAMAZ6396x ... a tornado is based on the Ural6370 chassis ... how are they not KAMAZ and Ural ... :)

[komis55]

Deny auto repair, not in service. But the place for drivers, Schaub was where he rummages

[Engineer]

Well, yes, with such an increase in gas prices and a diesel engine, 50 liters per 100 km will be greasy. True, they already exist, and those will be much more expensive. Well, nothing, I still have a hole on my belt, I can tighten it even tighter, I don’t feed Chubais.

[Dzafdet]

Today I walked, looked, rivets ordinary Urals, only the noise is worth ..

[tihonmarine]

It’s interesting and at what car factory these “Tornadoes” are produced and in what quantities they can produce, I hope not in such quantities as at Parashenkovsky “Bogdan”?

[tractor driver73]

And what about the Z-131 and G-66?