The commander-in-chief of the Navy spoke about the formation of the Mediterranean group

The command will maintain the composition of the grouping of ships in the Mediterranean at a balanced level, reports RIA News statement of the Commander-in-Chief of the Navy Vladimir Korolev.

The Navy will maintain the strength of the grouping in the Mediterranean, which will be efficient and balanced,

Korolev said at the ceremony of launching a copy of the ship "Poltava".

According to the commander in chief, the size of the group will “flexibly change” in accordance with the tasks set. The service is carried by ships of all fleets of the Navy on the principle of regular rotation.

By ship classes, the composition of the group is determined in such a way that it remains self-sufficient and can interact with aviation, perform air defense tasks and search for submarines. To maintain the combat readiness of ships in the Mediterranean Sea, regular exercises are conducted as part of tactical and search-attack groups, Korolev said.

He also said that the group includes ships with "high-precision complexes weapons". Their percentage will increase as new ships are built.

Recall, on Sunday in St. Petersburg an exact replica of the battleship BF 1712 of the year “Poltava” was launched. Peter I. himself participated in the creation of this 54-gun sailboat.

A copy began to build in 2013 year. On the water it will finish building about 10-months. Upon completion of all work, the ship will become the center of an interactive museum complex telling about the maritime stories Russia.

At the launching ceremony, it was emphasized that Russia under Peter the Great became an empire thanks in large part to the fleet, whose construction was carried out at the St. Petersburg shipyards. It was also reported that when creating the replica, drawings made by the king’s hand were used.

Comments

[svp67]

According to the classes of ships, the composition of the group will be determined in such a way that it remains self-sufficient

That is, to be always ready to give YOURSELF YOURSELF ... a good principle, the main thing is timely and correct

[Grandfather Makar]

We need the Atlantic grouping of the Navy, then maybe it will be easier for us in Russia!
It is advisable to cooperate with China .. On the American continent, quiet and good.
And Eurasia is drowning in blood from military conflicts .. So why?
Rob us!

[donavi49]

China, the Atlantic did not rest. The maximum is a visit every 3 of the month to Europe of another ship group from Africa. There to visit London, Brest and home.

China is focused on the home sea - where the Berks run at home. And in East Africa, colonies must be defended. Plus, to project power on the neighbors, all sorts of Vietnam, Malaysia and other Thailand-India demotivate.

[maxim947]

There is not enough fleet, and no one is hiding it, there is no panic, we’ll build it.
Is this a joke? )))

He also said that the group included ships with "high-precision weapon systems."

and right there:

in St. Petersburg, an exact copy of the battleship BF 1712 Poltava was launched. Peter I himself participated in the creation of this 54-gun sailboat.

[Arberes]

Quote: maxim947

Not enough fleet

Interestingly, what is Makarov doing now? Two of his brothers are already serving fully. Maybe in the Mediterranean “Ustinova” to send to replace? There are very few shock ships than to keep an adversary - old, good BDKashki?
We are only building “Karakurt”, but you yourself probably know what they are good and what are bad.

[Arberes]

Quote: Ded-Makar

We need the Atlantic grouping of the Navy, then maybe it will be easier for us in Russia!

We need a lot of things! Where is there only money to take for all this?
China launched a second aircraft carrier and another three or four were laid down or are being designed with nuclear engines. The economy is a great thing - it’s not only stupid to trade oil and gas.

[Grandfather Makar]

Quote: Arberes

Quote: Ded-Makar

We need the Atlantic grouping of the Navy, then maybe it will be easier for us in Russia!

We need a lot of things! Where is there only money to take for all this?
China launched a second aircraft carrier and another three or four were laid down or are being designed with nuclear engines. The economy is a great thing - it’s not only stupid to trade oil and gas.

Well, China can be set against the United States! Not a bad idea, let them fight hehe and North Korea too! ..And we’ll supply them with weapons and the USA too .. By “land lease” ..ha ha ha

[Sergey ippon]

that's it - all these Caspian, Black Sea local flotillas are about nothing.

[NEXUS]

Quote: svp67

That is, to be always ready to give YOURSELF YOURSELF ... a good principle, the main thing is timely and correct

This principle has always been from the time of the USSR and the fifth squadron.

The growing nuclear missile threat from the side of the seals deployed in the eastern part of the Mediterranean Sea necessitated the creation of a full-fledged naval force grouping capable of adequately responding to enemy actions, conducting proactive actions to uncover the underwater situation, detect the seals and maintain readiness to destroy them . All this was to force the US Navy command to redeploy SSBNs to other areas, the actions of which were less effective [8].
Admiral I.V. Kasatonov

Organizationally, the structure of the 5-th operational squadron included 6 operational connections:

50-e - control ship with guard ships
51-e - submarines (6-8 and more units)
52-e - shock rocket-artillery ships
53-e - anti-submarine ships
54-e - landing ships
55-e - support ships

In addition, there were a reinforcement group and a group of combat support ships. The command post of the commander and the headquarters of the squadron, before joining the fleet of the control cruiser "Zhdanov", was located on the flagship (one of the light cruisers of project 68 bis) or in the submarine ship base equipped with the necessary communications and control equipment

[ul_vitalii]

In short, you need a full range of "services" for partners and opportunities for themselves.

[Tiksi-3]

Quote: ul_vitalii

In short, you need a full range of "services" for partners and opportunities for themselves.

most likely, the base in the Mediterranean Sea will be made up of new patrol ships of project 22160. In total, 8 of them are being built and everything for the Black Sea Fleet, the flagship will change on a rotational basis ... then Grigorovich, then Essen, then Makarov ... a couple of diesel engines will be there on a permanent basis + Ivan Antonov, the minesweeper of the project 12700, may be reinstated - it is being completed in the interests of the Black Sea Fleet (there was a fire on Georgy Kurbatov and now it is not clear when they will hand over), but the BDK will run until it is written off

[alexmach]

most likely, the base in the Mediterranean will be new patrol ships of project 22160.

But they are completely useless there. Without anti-aircraft defense and anti-aircraft defense - without what exactly they write in the article. And the shock capabilities are in question. No, these ships will most likely drive Ukrainian border guards.

[Tiksi-3]

Quote: alexmach

But they are completely useless there.

truth?? UVP RK Caliber-NK, 2 × Shtil-1 air defense missile launcher [1], helicopter weighing up to 12 tons, 1 × 1-76 mm AU AK-176MA, all the same as on frigate Grigorovich, only cheaper ship manages

[alexmach]

belay is true ??

true.

UVP RK "Caliber-NK",

Optional installation option, in container version. In the very one that has never been purchased and not exploited. On this and I write, shock capabilities are in question.

2 × launcher air defense system "Calm-1"

There is no such thing there. no. All air defense is one "Flexible", but consider it and there is no air defense there

helicopter weighing up to 12 tons

This is yes.

all the same as on the frigate Grigorovich only cheaper ship

And think for yourself whether the same thing as on Grigorovich can be 3 times smaller on a ship, only bigger, better and cheaper. Do not see any contradictions?

[Tiksi-3]

Quote: alexmach

And think for yourself whether the same thing can be on a ship 3 times smaller

But what about MRC 22800? the displacement is less than 22160 times less than patrolman 2, and there is also the Caliber-NK UVP and 1 × 76,2 mm automatic universal artillery mount AK-176MA and m armor, but there’s no helicopter ....

Quote: alexmach

All air defense one "Bending"

Add-ons with minimal radar signature, AK-76MA 176-mm artillery mount, 8 Caliber-NK missile launcher vertical mount systems, Shtil-1 multi-channel anti-aircraft missile system, 3M-47 Gibka short-range anti-aircraft missile system, 2 small-sized remote-controlled anti-sabotage grenade launcher complex DP-65 and the latest shipborne complex REP TK-25. Then - immediately 3 sonar systems, two radar stations, a helicopter weighing up to 12 tons or several UAVs, a crew of up to 80 people.

[alexmach]

But what about MRC 22800? the displacement is less than 22160 times less than patrolman 2, and there is also the Caliber-NK UVP and 1 × 76,2 mm automatic universal artillery mount AK-176MA and m armor, but there is no helicopter ..

Well, autonomy is 15 days, that is, 4 times less ... and yes - all the same ... almost ..

8 installations of vertical launch of the Caliber-NK missile system,

Once again, for the deaf - optionally, that is, they can eat or maybe not.

Shtil-1 multi-channel anti-aircraft missile system

Once again - there is no such thing. There is no place for it.

Then - immediately 3 sonar systems, two radar stations,

But about HOOK I honestly missed it, a mistake came out

[alexmach]

But about HOOK I honestly missed it, a mistake came out

He still has some opportunities for PLO. Although another question is how modern is this hack

[Tiksi-3]

Quote: alexmach

There is no place for it.

it’s calmness optionally, and the caliber in the kit .... so they write everywhere ..... here they will take the first two and see what is on it and how ...

[alexmach]

This is not true. moreover, there may be a choice of either Caliber or Vignette

[Tiksi-3]

Quote: alexmach

This is not true

you say and where is at least a link? offer to take a word?
I told you that we will wait for the first 2 ships, this year they must deliver to the fleet - so we'll see what will be there!

[donavi49]

Well 22160 - just like patrolmen. They were made for another. To drive pirates there (pirates with 5 inches and 90 + missiles - they will not be able to drive) - show the flag, go long-distance hikes, provide evacuation / first aid delivery to distressed regions of the world, etc.

It’s not very good for them to chase Berks; rather, they will chase these patrolmen.

[Corsair0304]

By class of ships, the composition of the group will be determined in such a way that it remains self-sufficient and can interact with aviation, perform air defense tasks and search for submarines.

Somehow, the press generally circumvented news about the submarines of a potential enemy. Mentioned only about the launched "Caliber" from under the water. It would be interesting to know how there "sworn friends" are under water or not.
And so - we are doing everything right. You can’t weaken the grouping, you can’t do it.

[Tiksi-3]

Quote: Corsair0304

It would be interesting to know how there "sworn friends" are under water or not.

of course have...

[DenZ]

Good "Poltava" whenever possible necessarily visit when completed.

[Real russian]

I think that we must go on an unexpected path - a mosquito fleet!
As a base we need to take a very successful project - "Rook", equip it with a "Dagger". And this will be the end of the aircraft carriers, the Mediterranean Sea will immediately be cleared of them. Well, there are ocean open spaces next in line - the Rook under them needs to be modernized, of course. But, I think, there is no need to change much - just adapt.
The ocean version is already equipped with Zircon.

[Tiksi-3]

Quote: Real Russian

As a base we need to take a very successful project - "Rook"

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Quote: Real Russian

equip it with a "Dagger"

and even rubber boats stuffed with caliber

[Chertt]

Quote: Tiksi-3

Tiksi-3 (Dmitry) Today, 11:04 ↑
Quote: Real Russian
As a base we need to take a very successful project - "Rook"
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In my opinion, the young man tried to ironize.
To solve the problem of the power plant, the basis of the Mediterranean squadron, frigates of the project 22350 are planned, as well as diesel-electric submarines with an air-independent power plant (like Kalina).

[Tiksi-3]

Quote: Chertt

With the solution to the problem of the power plant

until this problem is solved 5 years will pass (the series will go) - 22160 are already being built and 2 should be transferred to the fleet this year and so on up to 8 units each year, so there are no Gorshkovs yet - these patrolmen will be the basis .... I’m I think

[Chertt]

Quote: Tiksi-3

5 years will pass until this problem is solved (a series will go) - 22160 are already being built and 2 should be transferred to the fleet this year, and so every year

Of course, “Admirals” are in the long run (we hope not far). In the meantime, "what will God give." Of the new 22160, 21631 "Buyan m", plus 22800 "Karakurt", the building is quite brisk

[Laughtermaster]

In my opinion, the young man tried to ironize

He would have been published in National International, talent is lost.

[Laughtermaster]

equip it with a "Dagger".

This is not the first comment where you want to drown the aviation complex in the sea. If this is such a trolling, then it is extremely unsuccessful.

[Andrei from Chelyabinsk]

According to the commander in chief, the size of the group will “flexibly change” in accordance with the tasks set.

It is translated into Russian like this - we have almost no ships, so we will send what happens and when it turns out

[Sevastiec]

I think so, as always, something can portray itself, only a sub-melting.

[Laughtermaster]

But he said the same thing in the future tense, and now on Tartus, as I understand it, walk the field.

[Andrei from Chelyabinsk]

Quote: The Laughtermaster

But he said the same thing in the future tense

So in our future time in terms of the naval fleet it’s still worse than now

[Real russian]

Quote: Tiksi-3

Quote: Real Russian

As a base we need to take a very successful project - "Rook"

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Quote: Real Russian

equip it with a "Dagger"

and even rubber boats stuffed with caliber

Than to put emoticons, it would be better to offer something sensible, would!

[Tiksi-3]

Quote: Real Russian

Than to put emoticons, it would be better to offer something sensible, would!

Above, I described the proposed grouping of ships for the Mediterranean squadron of the Russian Federation,
Well, you will forgive me, but they wrote an utter nonsense with a Dagger on Grachenka. At least for the sake of interest you would read about the Dagger and Grachenka, you look and the post would be removed from shame))) I even give a comparison

Quote: Real Russian

Rook, equip it with a Dagger.

with your desire - it doesn’t enter your head ...

[Andrei from Chelyabinsk]

Quote: Real Russian

Than to put emoticons, it would be better to offer something sensible, would!

I propose to destroy the American aircraft carriers urgently to form a special sabotage unit of kamikaze guinea pigs.
Will go?

[Sevastiec]

Damn, even a wooden sailboat was built 5 years. And they will finish building another year.

[Gardamir]

I will reveal a great secret. The Soviet Union is gone. And now we would have to decide on the grouping in the Black Sea.

[Tiksi-3]

Quote: Gardamir

And now we would have to decide on the grouping in the Black Sea.

oh well in FIG .... better in the Caspian, Ladoga and Baikal .....

[Chertt]

Quote: Gardamir

I will reveal a great secret. The Soviet Union is gone.

Here we will build the USSR-2.0, and we will not let you whiners. Sit with your America or China

[Zomanus]

Hmm, they started about warships, finished about the museum ship.
And if truth be told, then we don’t have enough ships to stay in the Mediterranean Sea.
In addition to the ships themselves, there are also a bunch of escort and support vessels needed.