Beijing has accused the US of violating Chinese borders

Official Beijing accused the United States, in which it declared a violation of the maritime borders of the PRC by US warships. According to the official representative of the PLA U Tsian, American ships invaded the Chinese territorial waters in the Xisha region (Paracel archipelago). We are talking about the islands, which China calls its own, but for which Vietnam and Taiwan also claim. At the same time, as is known, China calls Taiwan its territory, with which categorically disagree in Taipei.

Wu Qian noted that a group of US Navy ships as part of the USS Antietam missile cruiser and the destroyer USS Higgins flew approximately nautical miles (about 12 km) from the islands, conducting maneuvers in the South China Sea.

Wu Qian:

We regard these actions of the USA in violation of the sovereign maritime borders of China as blatant provocation and arrogant disregard of the state sovereignty of the PRC. This step undermines the mutual trust of the armed forces of our countries and brings instability to the region.

Beijing’s claims were responded to by the United States, saying that “warships acted in full compliance with international standards and did not violate China’s sovereignty.” The US Marine Corps added that they would carry out "previously planned operations in the future."

For reference: The Paracel Islands (Xisha) are located approximately 200 km east of the Vietnamese coast and 230 km south of the Chinese island of Hainan. Consist, in fact, of two archipelagoes: Yongle and Xuande. The largest island is Dong Dao (Lincoln Island) with an area of ​​only 1,6 square. km The remaining islands, respectively, are even more tiny. However, China is not so much interested in these "fragments" of land, as in the wealth of the sea in the area of ​​this archipelago.

Comments

[Dormidont]

Violators must be drowned

[The black]

The Chinese will sit on the shore and wait in silence when it swims by .... another US ship .... philosophy, however

[Dormidont]

It’s not long to wait for the body of the enemy’s ship to pass by

[The black]

Quote: Dormidont

It’s not long to wait for the body of the enemy’s ship to pass by

well, for a Chinese and a century - "not long"

[TermNachTer]

You rephrased a little, the old saying: "when the corpse of the enemy swims." But China may recall that when the Ryukyu Islands were in vassal dependence on them.

[siberalt]

The United States originally had a thieves' habit of rummaging around in other people's gardens.

[donavi49]

They are not yet ready to go into a slaughter. The fleet is being intensively built. Other forces as well. You still need at least 5-7 years of minimum, and preferably 10.

Therefore, they also prevented a trade war by concessions - according to the American media on the 200bn concessions, according to the Chinese, insignificant concessions for the sake of future prosperity.

[Voyager]

What a mess? Any major clash will end with yao

[Nyrobsky]

Quote: Voyager

What a mess? Any major clash will end with yao

Is not a fact. The confrontation between China and the United States is not at all a fact.

[Ros 56]

You think everyone is crazy, grab onto a nuclear club. That's the whole point, that to threaten does not mean to apply.

[Voyager]

According to this logic, after the 90s, we would have already been dismembered without allowing us to restore the army to its current level. This is the essence of yao - to prevent major conflicts, so that either side will piss, sorry, to lunge towards the opponent with this club

[siberalt]

Do not scare nuclear war. America will swallow if the Chinese sink a couple of their "lost" ships. And, they suggest something, they will do so. Otherwise, they will lose authority in their region.

[ML-334]

Lost in one, showed weakness, which means that the Ameros would crush in the other.

[NEXUS]

We regard these actions of the USA in violation of the sovereign maritime borders of China as blatant provocation and arrogant disregard of the state sovereignty of the PRC. This step undermines the mutual trust of the armed forces of our countries and brings instability to the region.

Only in that region? The US has instability all over the world, calling it the fun word democracy.

[pvv113]

States persistently seek conflict

[bouncyhunter]

For mattresses, war is a way to replenish your pocket and reduce public debt.

[pvv113]

Otherwise, what about the "money supply"? The war, as they say, will write everything off

[bouncyhunter]

In the USA, this was understood even during the First World War, if not earlier.

[pvv113]

It seems to me that the states have very well learned to profit from any war - both from the world and local ones. They then have the economy uphill and rushing

[bouncyhunter]

About that and speech. US manufacturers have warmed up well for WWII and made it clear that war is the easiest way to correct shaky things.

[pvv113]

Once again you are convinced of the saying:
to whom is war, and to whom is mother dear

[Kerensky]

For mattresses, war is a way to replenish your pocket and reduce public debt.

How? Reduce the problem:
I borrowed from a neighbor Vasya, went out into the yard and grappled with my neighbor Petya. Can you not give it to Vasya?

[bouncyhunter]

You exaggerate. In the production and sale of weapons, they make very good money, and in the presence of war, these profits grow multiply.

[Kerensky]

In the production and sale of weapons, they make very good money, and in the presence of war, these profits grow multiply.

This is when the country does not fight itself. Does not endanger production areas, transport ...
There Iran clashed with Iraq, So the USSR supplied both. And the Germans grappled with us - for some reason there was no economic upsurge ... except perhaps among the Swedes.

[bouncyhunter]

That's right, you write, because it’s just about the United States, where since the war of the North and the South nothing has happened. So they cut through the chip how to chop cabbage into the lungs, inflating war planes everywhere, but not at home.

[Kerensky]

so it’s just about the USA

Here! Climbing themselves (and the news about it), they won nothing. In the long run, you can bargain with China for a public debt, but for this you need a few victories (what will they stand up for?). And in the short term, the cessation of the supply of goods to the United States (and an increase in the discontent of citizens) and the nationalization of enterprises in China (an increase in the discontent of the oligarchs).

[bouncyhunter]

So after all, they provoke in someone else's territory, and not at home. So it was in Vietnam, Korea, Iraq, Libya. Another question is that China can embed nuclear drunk in the USA.

[Kerensky]

Another question is that China can embed nuclear drunk in the USA.

Without vskoy nuclear weapons. It is enough to cut off the supply of Chinese goods to the United States and the lumpen will go out into the street, which did not work, and rob the hefty much more. They can get weapons in Chinatowns, the benefit of them everywhere in bulk. Narcocortels, too, will not miss their own — here are tens of thousands of bayonets, if not hundreds. Moreover, the Chinese will not lose the market - they simply have no one to replace. They will return calmly when everything settles down.
In this scenario, the United States will have to hit China, but this will not restore the flow of goods on which the poor are sitting.

[bouncyhunter]

Extremely sad scenario, but it seems to be true. Do they understand this in the USA, dealing with the provocations of China?

[Kerensky]

Do they understand this in the USA, dealing with the provocations of China?

Trump advocates the return of production to the United States, but does not have sufficient leverage.
Even existing enterprises will have to clean the “unreliable element” (Chinese, Mexicans) and seriously increase security costs, which will affect the final cost of the goods. This is not touching the acts of sabotage and sabotage (arson), including in transport. Insurance campaigns will immediately inflate prices.

[Weyland]

Quote: Kerensky

I borrowed from a neighbor Vasya, went out into the yard and grappled with my neighbor Petya. Can you not give it to Vasya?

Why not? If you beat Petya severely and hint to Vasya that if he demands to return the debt, he will be the same!

[UZBEK TASHKENT]

I borrowed from Vasya’s neighbor, there’s no desire to give Vasya back. The way out is to make sure that Vasya does not ask to return the debt. The first option is to give Vasya in the forehead (Vasya is a strong guy, he can return, but not belligerent). The second option - there is a neighbor Petya, a goner can barely breathe. In front of Vasya, I give Pete a forehead. Further down the list: Kolya, Andrejka, Genka and necessarily Seryozha. Thus, in Vasya’s eyes I’m crazy with half a turn giving every detail in the forehead. Bob, in thought, I’m leading Vasina’s money to Vasin’s wife for a barn ...

[rotmistr60]

will carry out “previously planned operations in the future”

"Hegemon" said, "hegemon" did. It is interesting to what extent the arrogance and "exclusivity" of the United States in the world will reach, and when the Americans will nevertheless provoke a major military conflict, which they seek in their stupidity, not even stupidity.

[svp67]

Official Beijing has accused the United States of alleging violation of China’s sea borders by US warships.

The next game in the "1001 Chinese warning" ... Already funny. Well, where is your "fast-growing fleet"? The approach of this ship group is not a secret, that is, its composition was known, was it difficult to fit your squad to the islands, twice as much?

[donavi49]

Well, what's the point? Accompany? No sense. Open fire even at the rate - so, they do not need such an aggravation. They only got away from the trade war by paying from the 200bn concessions to the United States until, according to the Chinese, insignificant concessions for the sake of future prosperity.

Fight? They need at least 5-7 years, and preferably 10 + development. Just take warships at sea:
1 aircraft carrier is being tested, the second is being built. Only Liaolin warheads.
The main club heavy destroyers 055 - 2 are being completed afloat (the main one this year for testing) and another 5 is being built.
A new type of 052D - 8 are ready, 5 are being built afloat, 9 are being built.
Old destroyers, still without universal mines 052С - 6 are ready.
The destroyers 956E / M - 2 are combat ready, 1 is completing a global modernization with the completion of boilers, air defense systems and the strike complex, 1 has come to modernization and is preparing.
The latest frigates 054B - 2 are being built.
The old type of 054 is 26 in the ranks, 1 is being completed, 2 is being built.

If you take the destroyers - as the main blood of the naval war, then now they have more of them being built and completed than in the ranks.

[svp67]

Quote: donavi49

Well, what's the point? Accompany? No sense.

I assure you that in the case when there is a chance to "get in the face", the Americans do not scamper. In the best case, they would have passed at the edge of the border, but would not have climbed to where you can immediately get ...

[donavi49]

The current opposite - they would try to provoke an incident. 200bn have already been knocked out, maybe a little more will come out to knock out the dough. Under Obama, yes. Under Trump - if the client swam and made concessions (the Chinese also admit that they made concessions for the sake of future prosperity) - then you need to knock out the last gum from the cowards.

[svp67]

Quote: donavi49

The current opposite - they would try to provoke an incident.

No, these do it yourself will not do it. To substitute the Japanese or Filipinos, as well as the Vietnamese, is YES, but not themselves ...

[ANCIENT]

Yes, hire ukrointsev, and bury the passages in the South China Sea to the islands so that not one hydraulic capacity and does not come close to them! !! Or do there yourself a labyrinth of micro-islands, fill a hundred with new ones - in a week, manage all of China! !!

[Masya masya]

They added in the US Marine Corps that they would carry out “previously planned operations in the future”

The Chinese comrades need to conduct exercises in the same place and at the same hour ...

[LMN]

Quote: Masya Masya

They added in the US Marine Corps that they would carry out “previously planned operations in the future”

The Chinese comrades need to conduct exercises in the same place and at the same hour ...

Perhaps it will be more practical "at the same hour" where the thread in the Florida area ..

[Kerensky]

need to conduct exercises

Scenario - release of a warship captured by pirates. Who will understand in the fog ......

[Grandfather Makar]

Bully USA China ..

[Guillon]

Let the Americans carry out these provocative maneuvers in their Gulf of Mexico! It’s time to drive them with a tattered broomstick from them to the coastal regions of the PRC !!!

[Zomanus]

Yes, the Americans put on your indignation, China.
And they will put it until they slap on the wallet.
Well, the military confrontation immediately put an end to China as a superpower.

[zhekazs]

And why are they all obsessed with this tinny? In addition to a handful of sixes, such as Poland or Israel, running errands, the whole world is against them. They will not die with their death, and all traitors will be dragged away ...

[Xscorpion]

Quote: Voyager

What a mess? Any major clash will end with yao

If they simply shoot at each other at sea, this will not end. Because there will not be a direct threat to the existence of both countries. At least the first couple of days. Then, of course, the United States can officially declare war. And already there will be prerequisites for the use of nuclear weapons. But with given that China also possesses these weapons, it is likely to end in negotiations. As long as China looks like a dog who barks and roars at passers-by, but sooner or later he will break this chain.