State Department: Moscow must disclose its role in the crash of MH17

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Washington fully trusts the conclusions of the Dutch commission and calls on Russia to “clarify” its role in the crash of the Malaysian Boeing flight MH17, reports RIA News US State Department statement.





On Thursday, the JIT investigation team announced the interim results of the investigation into the collapse of MH17 in 2014 in eastern Ukraine. According to investigators, the plane was shot down from the Buk complex, which belonged to the 53-th anti-aircraft brigade deployed in Kursk. According to their version, the air defense system was brought from Russia, and then delivered back. At the same time, the investigators could not answer the question of when and to which court these conclusions would be transmitted.

The United States fully trusts the findings presented by the Dutch prosecutor. (...) The time has come for Russia to clarify its role in this shot,
stated in the State Department.

Commenting on the findings of JIT, the Russian Foreign Ministry called the accusations addressed to the Russian Federation unfounded and regrettable, and the investigation itself - biased and one-sided. A little later, Vladimir Putin noted that Russian specialists are not allowed to investigate, and Moscow can recognize the results of the investigation only if it takes full part in it. In this case, the president promised to study the findings of JIT.

In turn, the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation stated that not a single Russian beech crossed the Ukrainian border. And the rocket that got into a passenger plane was launched not from the Snezhniy region (the village was controlled by the DPR), but from the village of Zaroshchenskoye, which was then controlled by Ukrainian security forces.

Recall, Boeing 777 was shot down by 17 July 2014, near Donetsk. All passengers and crew aboard (298 people) were killed.
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  1. +23
    25 May 2018 12: 03
    It's time for Russia to clarify its role in this shot,

    I believe this wording: “Go through the forest!” Will be enough to clarify our position.
    1. +7
      25 May 2018 12: 06
      Victor hi I can’t believe my eyes and ears ... It’s time to forget about the downed Boeing. According to the genre .. However, this skeleton was brought to light ..
      Quote: Monos
      It's time for Russia to clarify its role in this shot,

      I believe this wording: “Go through the forest!” Will be enough to clarify our position.
      1. +9
        25 May 2018 12: 15
        The United States fully trusts the findings presented by the Dutch attorney. (...) The time has come for Russia to clarify its role in this shot

        Here are the balamutes, how many years will you fool the whole world !?
        1. +5
          25 May 2018 12: 27
          Here are the balamutes, how many years will you fool the whole world !?

          Sergey, hi so, until the second coming! I will not quote the Bible.
          1. +6
            25 May 2018 12: 31
            Quote: sabakina
            Here are the balamutes, how many years will you fool the whole world !?

            Sergey, hi so, until the second coming! I will not quote the Bible.
            May they deal with their sins!
            1. +1
              25 May 2018 12: 35
              Quote: figvam
              Here are the balamutes, how many years will you fool the whole world !?

              The whole world will be bullied for so many years, while the investigation itself will be in the hands of a private Dutch company, which is engaged in this "investigation" to bring down the Boeing 777 and while the US pays money for its biased indictment against Russia - i.e. transfer huge capital to her account
              1. +3
                25 May 2018 12: 38
                I wonder if it is possible to sue this commission for ignoring and falsifying facts. And if you can, why is this still not done?
                1. +5
                  25 May 2018 12: 53
                  Quote: Shurik70
                  I wonder if it is possible to sue this commission for ignoring and falsifying facts. And if you can, why is this still not done?

                  And you can still write in Sportloto ... It is necessary to reinforce your accusations, and not call for "common sense" or "honesty." This is not the case in international relations. Point. It is advisable to take one or another position.
                2. +1
                  25 May 2018 12: 56
                  Quote: Shurik70
                  I wonder if it is possible to sue this commission for ignoring and falsifying facts. And if you can, why is this still not done?

                  If the investigation is not completed, then in principle it is impossible to sue investigators! It’s impossible to use the case materials! After all, one must familiarize oneself with the case materials, refer to them, etc., etc.
                  It’s like a frozen military conflict in which, when it fades away, the parties interested in it (in this case, the USA) can periodically - to maintain it - add oil to the fire with the aim of international political, moral and financial pressure on each other. And by the way, not so long ago, Washington had already thrown to the investigators of this private office a decent amount of money to complete their investigation.
                3. 0
                  25 May 2018 13: 36
                  better in interpol and discuss in the Security Council
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                1. 0
                  25 May 2018 14: 39
                  I have other information.
                  Quote: Vagabond
                  The investigation is being conducted by JIT, an international investigative team of investigators from Australia, Belgium, Holland, Malaysia and Ukraine. All of them are representatives of the state legal services of their countries.

                  Representatives of state-owned state legal services, but they work on a privately-owned basis in this “office” just as the IOC is registered, organized, and runs the Olympic Games. That is why Russia is not represented among investigators from other countries in this “office”.
            2. +2
              25 May 2018 13: 23
              Quote: volodya
              Quote: sabakina
              Here are the balamutes, how many years will you fool the whole world !?

              Sergey, hi so, until the second coming! I will not quote the Bible.
              May they deal with their sins!

          2. +2
            25 May 2018 12: 37
            Hello, Glory, hi
            Quote: sabakina
            so, until the second coming!

            laughing "This music will be eternal ..."
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        3. +5
          25 May 2018 12: 30
          Here again, this "wording" INTERIM conclusions of the commission request What is it like??? Preliminary - I can understand! Intermediate (is it from the word crotch? laughing ) - not worthy of attention! Yes
          And anyway, let them go - in their INTERMEDIATE ... feel
      2. +2
        25 May 2018 12: 25
        Quote: 210ox
        It’s time to forget about the downed Boeing. According to the genre .. However, they pulled this skeleton into the light ..

        if you forget, then we hit.
        1. +5
          25 May 2018 12: 30
          Hello! When the fake is swelling around the world, and suddenly (as soon as the goal is reached) it is all blown away, it’s clear that the ears are sticking out .. So it was. About this unfortunate plane they already began to forget .. But it was necessary "slow down .. Here it started again. This is my opinion ..
          Quote: Des10
          Quote: 210ox
          It’s time to forget about the downed Boeing. According to the genre .. However, they pulled this skeleton into the light ..

          if you forget, then we hit.
          1. +1
            25 May 2018 13: 04
            And you - do not get sick.)
            Forgetting means forgiving the one who brought down. I understand that. There are two options there - either Ukraine or LDNR. But forget --- if Ukraine-how do you like?
            1. 0
              25 May 2018 13: 11
              Alexander hi I mean a propaganda company in the West and for their average person .. And we really, this crime can not be forgotten.
              Quote: Des10
              And you - do not get sick.)
              Forgetting means forgiving the one who brought down. I understand that. There are two options there - either Ukraine or LDNR. But forget --- if Ukraine-how do you like?
              1. 0
                25 May 2018 13: 18
                Quote: 210ox
                ..And we really, this crime can not be forgotten.

                I completely agree.
                1. +1
                  25 May 2018 13: 27
                  Quote: Des10
                  Quote: 210ox
                  ..And we really, this crime can not be forgotten.

                  I completely agree.

                  You tell them!
                  On July 3 on 1988, an Airbus A300B2-203 of Iran Air Airlines made an IR655 commercial passenger flight between Tehran (Iran) and Dubai (UAE) with an intermediate landing in Bandar Abbas (Iran). A few minutes after the departure from Bandar Abbas, the plane was shot down over the Persian Gulf with a missile launched from the US Navy's Vincennes missile cruiser. 290 people were killed, including 16 crew members, among passengers there were 66 children. During the launch of the rocket, the cruiser Vincennes was in the territorial waters of Iran.
                  Later, the cruiser commander, Captain William Rogers, was awarded the Legion of Honor Order for his successful service between 1987 and 1989.
                  The US government did not take responsibility for what happened. US Vice-President in 1988 George W. Bush, in particular, said: “I will never apologize for the United States of America, in spite of any facts”
                  1. 0
                    25 May 2018 13: 31
                    Quote: Des10
                    Quote: 210ox
                    ..And we really, this crime can not be forgotten.
                    I completely agree.


                    Or them!
                    On October 4 of 2001 over the Black Sea, the Tu-154M of the Russian airline Siberia crashed on an 1812 flight on the Tel Aviv-Novosibirsk route.



                    During the inspection of the wreckage of the aircraft, the striking elements of the anti-aircraft missile 5V21V anti-aircraft missile system (SAM) C 200 were found.



                    According to the conclusion of the IAC Interstate Aviation Committee), at an altitude of 11 thousand meters, the plane was inadvertently shot down by the Ukrainian S-200 anti-aircraft missile, launched into the air as part of military exercises conducted on the Crimean peninsula. All 66 passengers and 12 crew members were killed.



                    Commenting on the incident with the Tu-154, the then President of Ukraine Leonid Kuchma said: “Look, what's going on around the world, in Europe? We are not the first and not the last, it is not necessary to make a tragedy out of this. Mistakes happen everywhere, and not only on such a scale, but on a much larger, planetary scale. If we do not lower ourselves below the civilized level, everything will be fine. And if we pour a bucket of mud on ourselves, so please. ”
            2. +1
              25 May 2018 13: 20
              Quote: Des10
              And you - do not get sick.)
              Forgetting means forgiving the one who brought down. I understand that. There are two options there - either Ukraine or LDNR. But forget --- if Ukraine-how do you like?

              There is still an interesting question. This is compensation. To recognize Ukraine as guilty is to hell with the relatives of the victims and the owners of the airline that they will receive from it. Russia is rich, you can get from it, but we can talk about about $ 1 billion.
      3. +5
        25 May 2018 12: 32
        Greetings Dmitry hi
        Quote: 210ox
        It’s time to forget about the downed Boeing. According to the genre .. However, they pulled this skeleton into the light ..

        It seems to me that pulling out dusty skeletons is a good sign. This means that they do not have effective instruments of pressure on us. Unless they are preparing a new provocation ... True, not one of their provocations against us has yet worked. I think they just don’t know what to do.
        1. +2
          25 May 2018 12: 40
          For our liber ... the adder, they threw the feed and skip ... the accelerator where it was necessary!
          Since yesterday, the local viper hisses and spits ... it can no longer bite. because acc. "work" we had with friends long ago!
          Hiss loudly, a sure and unpleasant sign! I hope where it is necessary, those who need to do their “work” with high quality, this and another reptile could not bite Schaub !!!
        2. +1
          25 May 2018 12: 59
          This is a tool of pressure on their vassals, and very suitable. Now, most likely, Nord Stream-2 will be blocked, or the championship will be disrupted.

          The trouble is that all kinds of fagins from the TV do not come out.
          1. +1
            25 May 2018 13: 30
            C'mon, this trifle pot-bellied is not needed by anyone!
            Bigger figures glow ... and again, who is watching and listening to them!
            House 2 rules ... if he is there, not in the know. However, there is always something like that.
      4. +2
        25 May 2018 12: 35
        Quote: 210ox
        However, they brought this skeleton to light ..

        Well, Duc, the 2018 World Cup is on the nose. A freshman with the Skripals was organized for the inauguration, and for the mundial, the skeleton will be pulled.
      5. 0
        25 May 2018 12: 40
        [quote = 210qu] Victor hi I can’t believe my eyes and ears ... It’s time to forget about the downed Boeing.
        Uh no ... the world does not forget downed passenger planes.
        1. +1
          25 May 2018 13: 40
          is it like being shot down by the Americans on the last day of the Korean War?
          the pilot was also awarded as captain and commander for Iran Air
      6. +1
        25 May 2018 12: 50
        Quote: 210ox
        It’s time to forget about the downed Boeing. According to the genre .. However, they pulled this skeleton into the light ..

        The creaks have already been written off ..... but the sanctions are new, tough - we need ..... here you have the Boeing ..... we are waiting for Russia to disconnect from SWIFT ... and this is what Phishington is doing !! then they will forbid us to buy oil .... the confrontation has not yet reached its climax
      7. 0
        25 May 2018 15: 18
        cannot be forgotten. this is a monstrous crime. and whoever yells the loudest "hold the thief" is usually the thief himself. as they say we look to whom it was profitable
    2. 0
      25 May 2018 12: 36
      Quote: Monos
      It's time for Russia to clarify its role in this shot,

      I believe this wording: “Go through the forest!” Will be enough to clarify our position.

      And Putin said: "But in any case, we will respect this and analyze everything that is stated there, formulate our attitude to this matter"
      1. +9
        25 May 2018 12: 41
        Quote: G A_2
        And Putin said:

        So this is the same "Go through the forest!". laughing
        1. +2
          25 May 2018 13: 33
          Quote: Monos
          Quote: G A_2
          And Putin said:

          So this is the same "Go through the forest!". laughing

          Only in the language of diplomats.
    3. +2
      25 May 2018 12: 59
      Off-topic comments.
      I have one question, why did the Dutch pave the route over the war zone? Who invented this?
      1. +2
        25 May 2018 13: 12
        As far as I understand, this question is not for the Dutch, but for the Ukrainian dispatchers.
        They did not attach importance to the fighting going down, well, they forgot about the "skill" of their air defense forces
        1. +2
          25 May 2018 13: 42
          he was allowed on this route even in poland;
      2. +2
        25 May 2018 13: 14
        In fact, they were supposed to fly somewhat apart, according to the established route!
        Where they were and were shot down, is the initiative of the dill managers ??? .... these are the facts!
      3. +2
        25 May 2018 13: 35
        Quote: Vasily50
        Off-topic comments.
        I have one question, why did the Dutch pave the route over the war zone? Who invented this?

        The dispatcher directed, then somewhere gone (gone, this is a woman). Negotiations are carefully hidden.
      4. 0
        25 May 2018 18: 16
        Quote: Vasily50
        I have one question, why did the Dutch pave the route over the war zone? Who invented this?

        And I have two for you feel Do you know what provocation is and why it is used? (Provocation is not in the sense in which some lovers thought)
    4. +4
      25 May 2018 13: 23
      First, let the United States post their pictures of the downed aircraft, the presence of which was announced immediately. And let them explain to their nation who filled up their trading towers and killed Kennedy. lol
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      1. +3
        25 May 2018 14: 08
        Quote: Vagabond
        Even the United States in such cases does not behave so stupidly and absurdly!

        They shot down, they recognized. What should we recognize? I will also advise you: "Go through the forest!".
        1. +1
          25 May 2018 14: 16
          Where did all the "wise men" come from? Russia, are you to blame because he said so ???
          Like everyone was sent, whom to where, but far unambiguously!
          Budding from ....? And from what?
          1. +2
            25 May 2018 14: 21
            Quote: rocket757
            Budding from ....? And from what?

            Not. They are sown. Diligently. They feed and water.
            1. +1
              25 May 2018 14: 59
              It would be good for these sowers to screw it up ... however, if the feeding and watering are turned into a bundle, this weed fauna will not survive! Top dressing and watering for her in life is necessary ... for an idea there? Is not a fact!
    6. +1
      25 May 2018 14: 48
      Quote: Monos
      It's time for Russia to clarify its role in this shot,

      I believe this wording: “Go through the forest!” Will be enough to clarify our position.

      But no. Need to clarify the question. It is necessary to demand the disclosure of the role of the US State Department in the destruction of the Boeing. What was there? Poroshenko fulfilled the order of the State Department or simply agreed with the State Department on his own decision to destroy the Boeing?
    7. +1
      25 May 2018 15: 13
      “I suppose this wording:“ Go through the forest! ”Will be enough to clarify our position.” It’s better to send on a “big erotic journey”, they’ll leave further, less stink and screech.
    8. 0
      25 May 2018 19: 13
      Quote: Monos
      I think this wording: “Go through the woods!” Will be enough,

      I would add, start with yourself ... imagine filming with intelligence. satellite, well then ... there was a list of questions for the investigation team and curators.
    9. +2
      25 May 2018 21: 16
      Quote: Monos
      It's time for Russia to clarify its role in this shot,

      =========
      I wonder what will happen if Russia "clears up" ???? Who should ship the diapers? "gutting" ???
  2. +7
    25 May 2018 12: 03
    Washington fully trusts the findings of the Dutch commission and calls on Russia to "clarify" its role
    When Washington gave the task to this commission and keeps it under control, was it worth expecting anything else. It’s time for Washington to “clear up” between the eyes in one of the regions, maybe then the brains will at least slightly fall into place. All oblige Russia, and when will they begin to fulfill their obligations?
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  3. +4
    25 May 2018 12: 03
    Washington fully trusts the findings of the Dutch commission and calls on Russia to "clarify" its role in the crash of the Malaysian Boeing flight MH17,

    Moscow completely distrusts the conclusions of the Dutch commission and calls on Washington to go through the woods, forest ... field, field ...
    1. +4
      25 May 2018 12: 08
      Quote: Masya Masya
      Moscow completely distrusts the findings of the Dutch commission and calls on Washington

      It’s better this way: Moscow does not completely trust Washington and redirects all its statements and accusations. This is more true.
      1. +1
        25 May 2018 12: 37
        Oh, these conclusions .... evidence ...
  4. +6
    25 May 2018 12: 03
    it’s time to reveal the secret - we’re no side here!
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    2. +4
      25 May 2018 12: 15
      Quote: novel xnumx
      it’s time to reveal the secret - we’re no side here!

      Only after they called at least one sane reason why ... we had to shoot down this "Boeing"
      1. +3
        25 May 2018 12: 18
        solely on the spite of character, and bad mood due to improperly spent sober
        1. +4
          25 May 2018 12: 20
          Quote: novel xnumx
          solely on the spite of character, and bad mood due to improperly spent sober

          Weighty. But in this case, the civilian sides are falling in bundles.
          1. +2
            25 May 2018 12: 29
            the rest realized on time and changed course
            1. +2
              25 May 2018 12: 32
              Quote: novel xnumx
              the rest realized on time and changed course

              We are waiting for your version among the findings of the Dutch commission. wink
              1. +2
                25 May 2018 13: 08
                so, in fact, it was voiced, so, slightly veiled
          2. +1
            25 May 2018 12: 32
            Alexander hi , I finally do not understand why the heck we had to shove this Buk, in the presence of a longer-range air defense system?
            1. +3
              25 May 2018 12: 47
              Quote: sabakina
              Alexander hi, I don’t understand at all, why the heck did we have to fly this Buk, with a longer-range air defense system?

              It is not easy to understand the Russian soul. But you can. Long-range air defense systems of any dk will bring down. But we are not looking for easy ways. And we do not set ourselves simple tasks. There, if you remember, almost at the same time as the Dutchman, our board No. 1 flew over. This is another reason why we needed to shoot down that Boeing exactly at that time. Show the Supreme Civil Code the accuracy and selectivity of our BUK. And then it’s boring, probably, he was flying over the clouds ...
              1. 0
                25 May 2018 12: 58
                Quote: Polite Elk
                There, if you remember, almost at the same time as the Dutchman, our board No. 1 flew over.

                Actually did not fly.
                https://russian.rt.com/inotv/2014-07-18/Gazetapl-
                Putina-ne-sbili-potomu
                1. +3
                  25 May 2018 13: 28
                  Quote: forty-eighth
                  Actually did not fly.

                  I looked at your link to the Polish portal and regained sight ... how could I believe our news channels? In Putin, at this time, according to the daily routine, eating babies is planned.
                  1. 0
                    25 May 2018 13: 35
                    Obviously, you looked at some other link, because I gave a link to our Russia Today channel. And you do not choke on saliva from hatred for Putin.
                    1. +2
                      25 May 2018 13: 42
                      Quote: forty-eighth
                      Obviously, you looked at some other link,
                      I went right on it from your comment.
                      Quote: forty-eighth
                      Gazetapl-putina-ne-sbili-potomu
                      Polish media. You still refer to the Ukrainian.
                      Quote: forty-eighth
                      And you do not choke on saliva from hatred for Putin.
                      With a sense of humor in any way?
                      1. 0
                        25 May 2018 14: 05
                        Quote: Polite Moose
                        Polish media. You still refer to the Ukrainian.

                        This is a link to Russia Today. The fact that RT referred to the Poles does not change anything, they do not reprint fake news.
                        https://russian.rt.com/article/41332 - вот здесь тоже RT хоть и пишет, что "существует вероятность того, что целью украинской ракеты - наземной или выпущенной с военного самолета - мог быть самолёт президента России Владимира Путина", но при этом тут же приводит данные, что траектории обоих бортов пересекались близ Варшавы (!). Где Варшава, а где Торез...
                        Quote: Polite Elk
                        With a sense of humor in any way?

                        Specifically, in this case, the humor is not appreciated.
        2. 0
          25 May 2018 12: 46
          It is for these reasons that Ukraine shot down the Tu-154 over the Black Sea on Thursday, October 4, 2001 ..
          Quote: novel xnumx
          solely on the spite of character, and bad mood due to improperly spent sober
      2. 0
        25 May 2018 13: 07
        Quote: Polite Elk
        Only after they called at least one sane reason why ... we had to shoot down this "Boeing"

        it happens without a “sane” reason --- “it happened”.
      3. 0
        25 May 2018 13: 11
        But they already solved this problem, explaining the "brutal murder" of Skripals by the Russian genetic tendency to violence, multiplied by causeless maliciousness. What with us, Untermensch, to take.

        Students learn at the pillar of European culture - P.Y. Goebbels!
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    3. 0
      25 May 2018 12: 48
      Quote: novel xnumx
      it’s time to reveal the secret - we’re no side here!

      Naturally. Just ask one question: “Why?”.
      Why drive the Buk out of Kursk? What would bring down a civilian side? What for? Wrong? C'mon, did our specialists mix up the plane for 9000 with the military at half the lowest height? Oh ...
      Although you can admit ... When Lyndon Johnson honestly admits that he was Jackie's lover and they both poisoned Kennedy. winked
      1. +2
        25 May 2018 13: 06
        but didn’t they shoot him?
        1. +1
          25 May 2018 13: 21
          Lead intoxication of the brain.
          1. +1
            25 May 2018 14: 05
            yeah, not the same violinists poisoned ...
          2. 0
            25 May 2018 18: 16
            That is exactly what I had in mind. Thinly guessed my irony.
        2. +3
          25 May 2018 13: 32
          Quote: novel xnumx
          but didn’t they shoot him?

          Shot, but then. And before that, they poisoned him all his life.
          1. +1
            25 May 2018 14: 05
            what sadists! such a sweet man ...
      2. 0
        25 May 2018 13: 10
        Quote: PalBor
        Naturally. Just ask one question: “Why?”. Why drive the Buk out of Kursk?

        Is this a question for miners who shot down Ukrainian planes before that?
        1. +2
          25 May 2018 13: 17
          The military aircraft that killed them.
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        1. 0
          25 May 2018 16: 15
          Are you an archivist? Or a mega-provocateur?
  5. +3
    25 May 2018 12: 04
    2018 FIFA World Cup getting closer ...
    1. +1
      25 May 2018 13: 24
      Yeah ... Or maybe it’s for the best. The Netherlands and Australia are already beginning to hysteria. Scha they will be joined by the British, Poles and other gang n ... owls. They will refuse to participate in the World Cup, will disrupt its holding ... Oops! Our hands in the Donbass are untied.
      Give a boycott of the World Championship Tolerasts!
      Let them still boycott something, we’ll get to Kiev. smile
      1. +6
        25 May 2018 13: 36
        Quote: PalBor
        Yeah ... Or maybe it’s for the best. The Netherlands and Australia are already beginning to hysteria. Scha they will be joined by the British, Poles and other gang n ... owls. They will refuse to participate in the World Cup, will disrupt its holding ... Oops!

        And our team are world champions wassat The rest of the technical defeat for failure to appear laughing
        1. +1
          25 May 2018 18: 17
          And our team are world champions

          There must be two teams at least. So - only silver. smile
          1. +4
            25 May 2018 18: 25
            Quote: Kerensky
            There must be two teams at least.

            You can split the team in half and take both gold and silver.
  6. +3
    25 May 2018 12: 04
    The only thing that can be blamed for Moscow is that the Bandera fascist junta is still sitting in Kuev
  7. +5
    25 May 2018 12: 04
    So we talked, we told them about Thomas, and they told us about Yerema.
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  8. +1
    25 May 2018 12: 09
    Someone Volkov ... Navalny’s assistant ... said ... that they were involved ... in the destruction of the Boeing ... so all the questions are about the swamp ... like the opposition.
  9. +2
    25 May 2018 12: 10
    How long will Washington take care of hutspoy? When will Washington clarify its role in creating ISIS and al Qaeda? When will Washington explain the meaning of its intervention in the affairs of the Middle East and other countries? When will Washington stop deceiving other countries and give false oaths and guarantees? There are many questions to Washington itself.
    1. 0
      25 May 2018 13: 17
      Quote: Altona
      There are many questions to Washington itself.

      The most important question? Where are the satellite images of the American spy satellite, or are they still secret?
  10. +2
    25 May 2018 12: 12
    Quote: rotmistr60
    When Washington gave the task to this commission and keeps it under control, was it worth expecting anything else.

    -----------------------------
    Katyn case and Goebbels does not remind? In my opinion, it is very similar. They killed some and dumped on others for political reasons.
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  12. +2
    25 May 2018 12: 16
    Let the whole list be announced that we still owe to everyone not to be sent separately in a certain direction each time.
  13. 0
    25 May 2018 12: 17
    Still, the Dutch investigators “chatted” “to conclude”, they didn’t even have to create a clownish commission;
  14. +2
    25 May 2018 12: 18
    Let's go around the second circle to drag skeletons from the cabinets. It’s better to interrogate Obama, he assured that the USA knows who shot down the plane, but this is a secret.
    1. 0
      25 May 2018 14: 16
      Quote: askort154
      Let's go around the second circle to drag skeletons from the cabinets. It’s better to interrogate Obama, he assured that the USA knows who shot down the plane, but this is a secret.

      The US knows. And all satellite imagery, both from the American satellite and from ESA satellites, has been placed at the disposal of the investigation team. This was announced 3 years ago.
      And the fact that the USA does not announce the result is right. Only the investigation itself can disclose the results of the investigation. So it announced.
  15. +3
    25 May 2018 12: 19
    Moscow,
    - The role of Russia - Impartial Arbitrator.
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  17. 0
    25 May 2018 12: 25
    Washington fully trusts the findings of the Dutch commission and calls on Russia to "clarify" its role in the crash of the Malaysian Boeing flight MH17
    How fussed before the World Cup !!!! Before that, quietness and smoothness were ...
  18. +1
    25 May 2018 12: 25
    Gaddafi had his own Boeing. They only squeezed him in 20 years, he recognized and paid. And he finished very badly ...
    1. +2
      25 May 2018 12: 31
      Quote: Dmitry V.
      Gaddafi had his own Boeing. They only squeezed him in 20 years, he recognized and paid. And he finished very badly ...

      And we will pressurize UkroPVO, do not hesitate.
      1. 0
        25 May 2018 12: 36
        I doubt it
        1. 0
          25 May 2018 12: 43
          Quote: Dmitry V.
          I doubt it

          And I believe that this is not our business Yes
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        1. 0
          25 May 2018 14: 19
          Even the brightest minds in the world
          Could not disperse the surrounding darkness,
          They told us some bedtime stories -
          And they went, wise, to sleep, like us.
    2. 0
      25 May 2018 13: 47
      although it wasn’t he really
  19. +2
    25 May 2018 12: 25
    the West has learned at the highest level odious and significant
    1. +2
      25 May 2018 12: 38
      expose any lie, absurdity and stupidity
  20. +3
    25 May 2018 12: 26
    Our role is that instead of our IL-96, board number one, Ukrainians mistakenly shot down the Malaysian board. And they are very similar in body color.
  21. +2
    25 May 2018 12: 28
    Usa must reveal its role
  22. +3
    25 May 2018 12: 36
    I think that the statement of the Dutch prosecutor is the first sign. Closer to World Cup-18, new “data” will appear according to which the Russian Armed Forces, known to the investigation, carried out a terrorist act against an airplane at the direct direction of some famous general. The hype will rise. Why should Russia bring down a civilian plane? It doesn’t matter. Putin will be called to account. Organize a tribunal. Russia will be declared a terrorist state with all the ensuing consequences. Here are the results of the foreign policy of our state, endured, endured until they turned into a punching bag. They will object to me - so respond to provocations? This is foolish, because they will spin the spiral, they will answer me. But if the answer is so scary for Western society, then the spiral will not unwind, but it will be like Eun did - it blew up the old mines and opened new ones. The old tyrant could only make stupid statements. Or, as Khrushchev did, detonating a 50 Mgt bomb, they immediately started negotiations.
    1. 0
      25 May 2018 12: 50
      mikh-korsakov ....... Putin will be called to account. Organize a tribunal. Russia will be declared a terrorist state with all the ensuing consequences ....

      The method of Reigon, which in 1983 proclaimed the USSR "the country of the aggressor" after the downed South Korean Boeing, is repeated.
    2. 0
      25 May 2018 12: 58
      Quote: mikh-korsakov
      Or, as Khrushchev did, detonating a 50 Mgt bomb, they immediately started negotiations.

      Detonate the same bomb, removing the restrictions (replacing the lead shell with uranium. You get 100 megatons. am
  23. +1
    25 May 2018 12: 38
    Unfortunately, the concept of common sense has disappeared in international relations and the concept has become widespread ... Everything that the USA and other countries accuse Russia of does not correspond to common sense ... And after that, declare that we owe something to someone ...
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    1. 0
      25 May 2018 12: 53
      Need to laugh ?. He laughs so well, who knows how to laugh. Does not apply to you.

      The transfer of Shoigu to Holland can also be sent through other channels. Pure for fun laughing
  25. +1
    25 May 2018 12: 44
    "State Department: Moscow must reveal its role in the collapse of MH17"
    - The State Department: “Well, it costs you, well, take the blame for MH17! At the same time, they hold back their role in instilling stupid Ukrainians to bring down the Boeing. Am..yers don’t suffer from modesty! Well, gov..yuki!
  26. 0
    25 May 2018 12: 47
    They didn’t creak, they dug up the miserable Boeing. Their whole theme is sewn with white thread. To create an image of the "Empire of Evil", isolate and strangle, causing internal fermentation. Russia will ALWAYS be the enemy of any hegemon, since it has the ability to wipe it into powder ... And what kind of hegemon is it in this case? laughing
  27. 0
    25 May 2018 12: 53
    Yes, everything is simple - at first the corpses are not fresh (the militias said). then Voloshin fighter sk rf, then Buk but not ours ... What's next ????
  28. 0
    25 May 2018 12: 56
    Passions are heating up ... Australia and the Netherlands ... officially accused Russia of crashing the Boeing ... the Georgians in the same Netherlands ... are trying to accuse us of shelling Gori ... everything goes to ... to use against Europe copulations with America ... as well as against Canada with Australia ... the emperor’s last argument ... a thermonuclear mine.

    "..." We demand from Russia to take responsibility and fully cooperate in establishing the truth and justice for the victims of the MH17 flight and their relatives, "said Dutch Foreign Minister Stef Blok. Russia was invited to join the negotiations. The bloc called the lawsuit a further step to the European Court of Human Rights ... "
  29. +2
    25 May 2018 13: 03
    I invite the US State Department to disclose its.
  30. +1
    25 May 2018 13: 08
    The Boeing 777 was shot down on July 17, 2014 near Donetsk. All passengers and crew on board (298 people) died

    Washington must recognize its role and the role of the Kiev organized crime group in the downing of a Boeing 777.
    There is satellite data, let them prove the movement of Buka from Russia. In the meantime:
    - The locals saw two planes;
    - local residents did not see the inverse trace of Buk;
    - The locals did not hear Buk take off;
    -How to evaluate the message "Spaniard" on the Internet at that moment, reporting that in Borispol all local dispatchers were removed from work, their place was taken by the military?
    1. 0
      25 May 2018 13: 25
      Local residents contradict the conclusions of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation and the specialists of the Almaz-Antey Concern of East Kazakhstan region.
      1. 0
        25 May 2018 13: 36
        In fact of the matter. It's time to update the performance of the MO according to the radar.
      2. 0
        25 May 2018 13: 55
        in what? even the Russian service of BBS contradicted the Dutch, therefore deleted its report
        https://russian.rt.com/article/42333#ixzz38TZXmVI
        u
        by the way, here he is
        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RA2GfthOyz8
        1. 0
          25 May 2018 14: 14
          Yes to me, these Dutch with all their BBS to the bulb ...
          According to the results of the investigation conducted by the RF Ministry of Defense, the MN-17 was shot down by a Buk air defense missile from a territory controlled by the Ukrainian Armed Forces. According to the results of modeling conducted by Almaz-Antey experts using field tests, the type of ammunition was installed, which is currently in service only in the Ukrainian Armed Forces.
          What are the locals? What are two planes? No specifics, not a single detail, facts - zero point one, but it is proudly called the word "VERSION", which again proudly CONTRADICTS to competent official, and most importantly specific, individuals.
          1. 0
            25 May 2018 14: 51
            Quote: forty-eighth
            According to the results of the investigation conducted by the RF Ministry of Defense, the MN-17 was shot down by a Buk air defense missile from a territory controlled by the Ukrainian Armed Forces.

            where did it come from?
            Quote: forty-eighth
            According to the results of modeling conducted by Almaz-Antey experts using field tests, the type of ammunition was installed, which is currently in service only in the Ukrainian Armed Forces.

            but the result of the non-modeling of the RF Ministry of Defense at the request of RT Yes
            https://youtu.be/t9baDcwVgVc?t=926
            like it itself a little earlier
            Quote: forty-eighth
            What are the locals? What are two planes?

            such about which in the report removed from the BBS website the link to which on YouTube was Yes
            and this Su-25 plane fell not only on the eyes of local residents but also on the radars of both the Russian Defense Ministry and the Federal Air Transport Agency
            1. 0
              25 May 2018 15: 33
              Quote: YELLOWSTONE
              where did it come from?

              For example from here
              http://www.mk.ru/politics/2018/05/24/minoborony-o
              tverglo-vyvody-sledstviya-po-mh17.html
              or from here
              https://rg.ru/2016/09/28/almaz-antej-sbivshuiu-mh
              17-raketu-vypustili-s-zaroshchenskogo.html
              or from here
              https://ria.ru/mh17/20160926/1477879227.html
              the quote from the last link is especially noteworthy:
              According to Viktor Meshcheryakov, deputy chief designer of the Utes-T radar complex of NPO Lianozovsky Electromechanical Plant, at a briefing, there were no other objects in the area of ​​the MH17 disaster that could cause the liner to be destroyed.

              “The exception is two civilian vessels with numbers 1775 and 4722,” he said.
              or here is the Almaz-Antey report
              https://topwar.ru/84290-almaz-antey-obnarodoval-r
              ezultaty-naturyh-eksperimentov-opredelyayuschih-
              prichinu-i-vinovnyh-v-krushenii-mh-17-zapad-napry
              agsya.html
              _________________________________________________
              Convincing enough?
              PS This is by the way articles of different years: 2015, 2016, and 2017. I think you can find out about the position of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation in 2018 yourself.
              1. 0
                25 May 2018 16: 15
                why not a single one from mil.ru? laughing
                Meshcheryakov and the military next to him said that there was "from the east" and "at the time of the disaster"
                did something youtube link RT not convince you?
                Su-25 when it was done from the west
  31. CYM
    0
    25 May 2018 13: 12
    Foreign Ministry calls accusations against the Russian Federation unfounded and regrettable
    And the Central Bank of the Russian Federation, in protest, increased investments in US government bonds. negative IMHO Not just now these allegations of Boeing were announced, followed by the creaking "remember" that Putin personally watered them with the "Newcomer" in Salisbury, the "white helmets" will get on again in Syria ... The Americans are clearly setting the stage for some global dirty tricks addressed to the Russian Federation. Most likely it will be an attempt by the AFU blitzkrieg in the Donbass. sad
  32. 0
    25 May 2018 13: 17
    Even the videos were cooked up. Advocates damn ...
    1. +1
      25 May 2018 14: 12
      And they did not have a question, what the hell to carry this SAM from Kursk, to perform such an operation?
      Near Rostov-on-Don, we have enough of these complexes there .. smile And by the way, where are the black boxes from this side? Disclose the notes, I would really like to know ...
      1. 0
        25 May 2018 14: 32
        Why should they be surprised? This performance is not for us, but for the western citizen, who often does not even know that there is such a city of Rostov-on-Don or Kursk, and even more so if there are Buk complexes there ... A set of pictures showed? They showed. Did you find any routes on Google map? Paved. Well, that’s all, it’s true. And after all it remains only to believe. Moreover, all the Western media from the very beginning appointed the culprit and repeated this a million times. And nothing bothers the layman ... For some reason, Orwell immediately recalls with his ministries of truth, ministries of love, etc. Probably, the police of thoughts has already been created.
        1. 0
          25 May 2018 14: 51
          For the first time, the first tuffs started.
          A German politician demands a boycott of the 2018 World Cup in Russia.
          https://www.inopressa.ru/article/25May2018/bild/m
          h17.html? utm_source = ino
  33. 0
    25 May 2018 13: 25
    As usual, all the charges are based on speculation and fantasies ....
    1. 0
      25 May 2018 15: 46
      It doesn’t matter, the West recognizes them.
  34. 0
    25 May 2018 13: 44
    The right of the strong greatly spoiled the United States and NATO ...
    1. 0
      25 May 2018 14: 00
      ... and we ourselves have made ourselves constant patience, so more correctly.
  35. 0
    25 May 2018 13: 54
    I wonder why Russia needed to shoot down an airplane over hohland.
    1. 0
      25 May 2018 13: 59
      Well, like by mistake ... by accident.
      1. 0
        26 May 2018 02: 02
        and exactly the one that is similar to the presidential? why not intentionally?
        accidentally you can’t shoot a civilian airplane from Buk, there is not only a friend-or-foe identifier system, but also a civil-military one
    2. 0
      25 May 2018 14: 49
      I’ll explain everything to you now ... first, the Russian Federation, helping the unrecognized LPR and the DPR, gives them a missile system of at least three to four units, then the miners who do not understand, deploy, refuel, equip them and aim at the first target (they are miners and confuse the passenger side with military) and launch a rocket, then turn off lightning fast and the convoy moves to the Russian Federation (no one saw it, but for that they are the miners), the combat mission is completed - the end! As for the need for such actions, everything is clear with this - wild, dangerous and incomprehensible, it is customary to consider such us Russians ... Greetings from Mordor, oh! Well, is not a democratic Ukraine really knocked them down? :)
      1. 0
        28 May 2018 13: 14
        Ahhhh, it seems like the truth!
    3. 0
      26 May 2018 07: 14
      Quote: bratchanin3
      I wonder why Russia needed to shoot down an airplane over hohland.

      Sane people have been asking this question inadequacies since the day of the disaster. Inadequate response was not provided.
  36. 0
    25 May 2018 13: 59
    Cool, now there will be a complete destruction of Russia as an object of international law, since it brought down a Boeing. This is how our government brought our foreign policy to a state where everyone is not too lazy to wipe our feet. Over the past few years, we have not responded to more than one attack on our address, so you look and the World Cup will be canceled, miles will force everyone to boycott it and rewrite FIFA rules. We must play by their rules, where you need to be boors and carry all heresy on the charge of the West in anything. Now we have another new reality, not in our favor, and now we will not wash off, we have already raised the high. Bravo GDP and our entire Foreign Ministry !!!!!!
    1. +1
      25 May 2018 14: 54
      ... offer to gasp?
  37. 0
    25 May 2018 14: 08
    As I understand it, gentlemen are good, are we quietly preparing for war?
    At our borders, NATA is strengthening its position, in Hohland, the Americans are muddying the base, the whole world is yapping at us on various far-fetched occasions ...
  38. 0
    25 May 2018 14: 24
    I wonder where they got half-rockets ??? The militia collected the wreckage .... And they didn’t show anything like it ... It seems that the pieces of iron were brought from Syria. Though enemies, we must pay tribute - masters of provocations! sad
  39. +2
    25 May 2018 14: 35
    forty-eight,
    Quote: forty-eighth
    This is a link to Russia Today.

    There at the end of the postscript
    InoTV's materials contain estimates of exclusively foreign media and do not reflect the position of RT

    And the comments of Polish readers
    @ lodzermensz1: I don’t know about you, but I just feel bad about this lie of Putin and his clique. Instead of sympathizing with the victims, he is now chatting that if there hadn’t been a truce, there would have been no shelling.

    earthboundmisfit: Moscow is already starting its spin. Almost identical planes? A Boeing 777 with two engines and an IL-96 with four? If they have such experts, then nothing strange is that they thought they shot down the An-26 plane.

    I am very sorry that you and I are wasting time on frankly Russophobic crap. hi
    1. 0
      25 May 2018 15: 20
      Well, prove that the Poles are lying
      "No radar was detected by any third-party air objects in the vicinity of the Malaysian aircraft. The exception is two civilian vessels with numbers 1775, its trajectories are shown, and 4722 with its trajectory. The first ship crossed with a Malaysian plane long before the crash. And the second ship is currently located at a distance of more than 30 kilometers from it, "says Victor Meshcheryakov
      . Well, what is their IL-96? https://www.1tv.ru/news/2016-09-26/310723-rossiys
      kie_voennye_obnarodovali_dannye_radiolokatorov_v_
      den_katastrofy_v_donbasse_aircraft_boing
    2. 0
      26 May 2018 01: 58
      Yes, he doesn’t really
      in the government squadron there are planes and with two
  40. +1
    25 May 2018 15: 15
    In the yard there is a fence, and on it bast. This song is good - start from the beginning
  41. +1
    25 May 2018 17: 36
    Now, if the State Department had revealed its role in this disaster, everything would immediately fall into place!
  42. +1
    26 May 2018 02: 30
    Another attack of idiocy in pro-American mongrel ..
  43. 0
    26 May 2018 14: 52
    It's time for Russia to clarify its role in this shot,
    Why clarify? The Ukrainian missile was spotted, but they did not begin to shoot it over foreign territory. It is not legal. And the plane is not Russian ...
  44. 0
    26 May 2018 15: 51
    From a statement by Vice President Bush Sr. in 1988 after the destruction of an Iranian passenger plane by the cruiser Vincen: “I will never apologize for the United States of America, in spite of any facts.” From the statement of Kuchma after the destruction of our Siberia company aircraft :: "Look what is happening around the world, in Europe? We are not the first and not the last, we should not make a tragedy out of this." And we all make excuses, and for that - what we did not do. Send them hard on foot erotic journey!
  45. 0
    26 May 2018 18: 34
    My wife had something to do with civil aviation. Aviation forecaster .. So far I have not found the answer to a simple question. With what a fright the Ukrainian dispatcher lowered the Boeing’s flight altitude from the usual 12200 m to 7000 m. And even over the war zone. And where did this dispatcher go. Twenty minutes later it should have been accept Rostov police I don’t believe that the Rostovites didn’t record all the negotiations of the Boeing’s crew with the land. Why they won’t show it. Then it will immediately become clear whose cat we were in sneakers. What a fuss ....
    1. 0
      27 May 2018 09: 41
      Quote: Nathanael
      lowered the height (...) to 7000m.

      Who told you this nonsense? He marched on the 350th echelon.
  46. 0
    26 May 2018 18: 44
    To begin with, let the State Department provide satellite imagery and a plan for the destruction of a Boeing developed by the CIA, and then we'll talk. It is necessary to carry out the forceful capture of Poros, the pastor, the Chechen and the Ukrainians and interrogate them with all bias ...
  47. 0
    26 May 2018 20: 02
    It is time to reveal all the US cheating cards in this vile crime of the SBU of Ukraine together with the US CIA. So it will be more correctly said. This was even said in the media shaved
  48. 0
    30 May 2018 17: 46
    Parashenko with his lackeys bandits specially launched the plane through the war zone and shot down this plane themselves. Ask the dispatchers who ordered them to send a Boeing along this route, and not bypass?
  49. 0
    2 June 2018 10: 24
    There’s some kind of game with this crash. The video is persistently ignored. It talks about the smell of formalin. The lack of blood, cadaverous skin color and a bunch of whole passports. The Kiev airport dispatcher disappeared sending the plane in the right direction. Not a word about the plane’s pilots wasn’t. Why did you have to wait 4 years. in order to give an “order” to present documents by nameplate number?
  50. 0
    2 June 2018 15: 08
    Americans need to answer so if they fully trust the conclusions of the commission, then let them explain the role of Russia in this tragedy, and then they will also explain why Russia needed it, as well as what kind of motive Russia had, then at least they will learn not to trust unfounded accusations.

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