USA: C-500 test secretly conducted in Russia

American TV channel CNBC He came out with a report that talks about the testing of the promising air defense missile defense system with the X-500 in Russia. It is stated that Russia is conducting "secret" tests of this anti-aircraft missile system. In this case, the channel allegedly refers to US intelligence.

In fact, stating the secret tests of promising weapons in this case is very strange. Firstly, it would be strange if, for example, American journalists were invited to the tests. Secondly, Russia has long been making no secret of the fact that it is developing the newest C-500 air defense system, which means that we must assume that it is being tested in one form or another.

CNBC argues that the C-500 missile hit the target at a distance of approximately 480 km.

From the material:

This is 50 miles (about 80,5 km) longer than any modern anti-aircraft missile system.

Including the Russian complexes already in service.

The report of the American TV channel adds that the promising Russian air defense and missile defense systems can not only shoot down aircraft and unmanned aerial vehicles, but also intercept air targets such as hypersonic missiles. It is especially emphasized that for C-500 "there is no such problem as F-35 or F-22", since C-500 is capable of "easily recognizing these planes and stabbing them."

According to some reports, these complexes (C-500 "Prometheus") will begin to flow into the Russian Armed Forces in the 2020 year.

Comments

[Spartanez300]

Yes, revealed the "secret" for seven seals .

[vkl.47]

They were silent about the hyperboloid of comrade Garin

[amirbek]

Quote: vkl.47

Silent about hyperboloid

the middle finger of the Kremlin drew between the troposphere and exosphere

[Shurik70]

Can radars from the S-500 improve the S-300?
If possible, it may be possible to avoid a new war, with Iran as a victim.

[just exp]

if there is an air defense control system, then it is possible to "improve" with radars from an airfield or ship.
they will simply be networked and you can direct an air defense system from a radar which is not a part of an air defense system (but as part of an air defense missile defense system) located somewhere over a hundred kilometers (yes, at least for 500 km.

[bulvas]

CNBC argues that the C-500 missile hit the target at a distance of approximately 480 km.

- this is the distance that they should know and remember.

[Yuyuka]

Quote: bulvas

CNBC argues that the C-500 missile hit the target at a distance of approximately 480 km.

- this is the distance that they should know and remember.

And also, do not forget about the Caliber, in which the true range was not quite as expected
the successful disclosure of the "secret" test was amusing - given how many times they have profiled the transfer of our troops

[bulvas]

Quote: Yuyuka

the successful disclosure of the "secret" test was amusing - given how many times they have profiled the transfer of our troops

Let's not flatter ourselves

Most likely, the US military also periodically smiles, reading the messages of its journalists, like us.

[Zubr]

Ideally, it would look nice and comfortable. All the same, direct over several radars, you can’t hide it. The issue of countering electronic warfare is open.

[san4es]

Quote: just EXPL

... is located somewhere over a hundred kilometers (yes, at least for 500 km. The main thing is that the goal would be in the reach zone of the missile)

Perhaps the radar 91N6A (M) is a Multifunctional Adaptive Radar Station (MARS), which in the stationary or mobile version of the decimeter range is designed to detect ballistic and aerodynamic targets, can be used:
• Zonal missile defense and air defense systems;
• Outer space monitoring and missile warning systems
• TVD missile defense system.
Detection range with a probability of 0.95:
- ballistic missile hulls - 2000 km
- a ballistic missile warhead with an effective dispersion surface of 0.1 sq.m - 1300 km
The number of simultaneously followed aerospace targets (time interval - 1 minute) 5-20
The number of simultaneously accompanied and guided missiles (time interval - 1 minute) 5-10
Maximum target designation error (extension time - 150 s) - 2 km
The standard error of the determination of the point of incidence of the BR is 15 km
Working wavelength range, cm 10
Constructive range:
- maximum 3000 km
- minimum 30 km
http://militaryrussia.ru/blog/topic-373.ht

[voyaka uh]

First equip the S-300 with at least S-400 radars.
Actually, the S-400 - this is the S-300 with a new radar and old missiles.

[Charik]

and all of this will be tied to sprn and zgrls and will be normal

[Nikolai Grek]

Quote: voyaka uh

First equip the S-300 with at least S-400 radars.
Actually, the S-400 - this is the S-300 with a new radar and old missiles.

The S-400 can play the role of a control system for an air defense positional area by integrating various zonal air defense systems and giving them commands to destroy targets, as well as using missiles from older air defense systems to destroy targets. To deploy communications over long distances, a 15I6ME repeater is used to provide communication of the 98ZH6E control system at a distance of 30/60/90 km from the 30K6E command center. Thus, the S-400 is a means of organizing and managing layered air defense.

[Lex.]

A new electronics, you did not mention it

[noct]

our pro system is layered. those. systems are designed essentially for different purposes. but older ones can beat. plus new systems with new radars can and do provide assistance to older systems in the control center. this is the basis of our air defense and therefore not removed from duty and the A-135 and S-300. they have different goals but one meaning

[volodya]

Quote: vkl.47

They were silent about the hyperboloid of comrade Garin

[ul_vitalii]

They probably think that we should arrange round dances around the fire before the starts, in order to attract attention.

[Maz]

That is, the Americans urgently need to create a new sixth generation aircraft and then partner them, cut the budget and give it to strategic allies :)

[vkl.47]

It won’t help. The hand of the darkest already extends over the galaxy

[Felix99]

S-600 is designed to deal with the seventh generation aircraft.

[Skay]

S-600 will be with a nuclear engine and unlimited flight range.

[voyaka uh]

And S-700 radars, they say, see stealth even when they are still standing in underground bunkers.

[Charik]

Nope at the assembly stage see

[Vadim237]

With 600 Triumphant will have ample opportunities to intercept medium-range BR warheads and ICBMs.

[voyaka uh]

Really made a kinetic killer? The ICBM warhead cannot be damaged by fragments.
Americans checked.

[Vadim237]

This will be achieved not by one interceptor but by two or more and each will have an explosive charge with a cumulative warhead, the interceptor will not even need to ram the warhead just to catch it in the sight - the cumulative jet will do its job.

[sabotage]

This jet does not blow the free stream of air?

[Vadim237]

At an altitude of 200 kilometers you have a stream of air.

[voyaka uh]

The idea is clear to me, but the execution is not. If the interceptor approaches the warhead, but slightly misses the path, then the cumulative warhead must somehow be turned towards the warhead. Need a scanning seeker and a swivel mechanism. And I note, a computer that calculates the point of meeting of the cum jet and warhead. Not to mention the laser rangefinder. In sum: the apparatus is even more complex than the kinetic killer.

[Vadim237]

The scanning GOS will be, the attack at the moment of approach is 10–20 meters from the body of the warhead, it is enough to even strike a cumulative jet along the body of the warhead, so that it burns out during dense layers of the atmosphere.

[volodya]

Quote: Maz

That is, the Americans urgently need to create a new sixth generation aircraft and then partner them, cut the budget and give it to strategic allies :)

Stripes have never given anything to anyone yet!

[Aaron Zawi]

Quote: Maz

That is, the Americans urgently need to create a new sixth generation aircraft and then partner them, cut the budget and give it to strategic allies :)

Not a plane, but a rocket.

[Alexey RA]

And this whole struggle between the air defense systems and air-launched missiles will end so that at the next stage the flight range of the air-defense system will become such that the aircraft will no longer be needed for it.

[Bar1]

the armata is coming, the triumph with prometheus is being covered up, the coalition is shooting, the support is supporting, the boomerang is flying back and forth, the federation is being launched, the avant-garde is flying, where does all this happen in Russia or in Latinia, or maybe it doesn't?

[72jora72]

Not a plane, but a rocket.

.... not a rocket, but a starship on which Trump will move the Jews to Alpha Centauri.

[thrush]

Quote: 72jora72

Not a plane, but a rocket.

.... not a rocket, but a starship on which Trump will move the Jews to Alpha Centauri.

about. But there is still a difference how to name a target?

[flicker]

on which Trump will move the Jews to Alpha Centauri.

And there, the latter will be met by Sephardic Jews, who will send them back to Earth, with the words "there is nothing for the Ashkenazi to do on Alpha Centauri."

[Igor V]

Quote: flicker

on which Trump will move the Jews to Alpha Centauri.

And there, the latter will be met by Sephardic Jews, who will send them back to Earth, with the words "there is nothing for the Ashkenazi to do on Alpha Centauri."

Translate!

[flicker]

[quote = Igor B] [quote = flicker] [quote]
Translate! [/ Quote]
I do not understand well at first, the Jews divide themselves into two groups of Sephardic and Ashkenazi, some seem to speak Hebrew, others seem to prefer Yiddish.

[kit88]

Quote: Bar1

maybe this is not at all?

And you check

[Bar1]

Quote: kit88

you check

Latin names and pictures are out of place at you well turn out ...

[Vadim237]

Perspective: Armata - purchased, Boomerang - tested Kurganets - revised, Coalition tested, Dagger - armed and in series, Vanguard - tested, Petrel - tested Poseidon - tested, torpedo complex Status 6 - armed, strategic cruise missile X 50 - under development, tactical hypersonic air-based missile with scramjet - under development, Zircon missile at the final stage of testing, laser complex Impact - on testing.

[Bar1]

and saturn5 on the moon?

[Mordvin 3]

Quote: Bar1

and saturn5 on the moon?

No, on the moon.

[Vadim237]

Saturn 5 - in the museum.

[helmi8]

Quote: Spartanez300

revealed the "secret" for seven seals

An unforgettable "immediately comes to mind" And he secretly visits his mistress ... "

[Captain45]

Quote: helmi8

The unforgettable "Immediately comes to mind" And he secretly visits his mistress ... "laughing

The original original version was SYNAGOGU

[grandson of Perun]

At the same time, the TV channel allegedly refers to American intelligence.

Again reliable information from social networks

[sdc_alex]

Probably also read

[Paranoid50]

Quote: sdc_alex

also read in laughing

Sometimes they even comment.

[cost]

Yuyuka (Yuri):- this is the distance that they should know and remember.
and also, do not forget about Caliber, in which the true range was not quite the same as expected

So it is possible to call the newly created ICBM PTR the true range of which turned out to be not quite as expected, a good idea

[ANCIENT]

Well, baobabs !!! We test our weapons, where, how, and when we need! !!

[Mountain shooter]

It’s they who “intrigue” are catching up ... In such a stupid way. Well, how do they know that no one makes any special secrets from this complex!

[Cube123]

Quote: Mountain Shooter

It’s they who “intrigue” are catching up ... In such a stupid way.

They’re not intriguing. And the method is not stupid. Is it really not clear that this is already a well-established technology? A throw is made on the question that interests you, and then the reaction to it is analyzed in social networks. Suddenly someone is chatting. And after all there are such. And this technology is cheap and very effective.

[Polite Moose]

Quote: Mountain Shooter

It’s they who “intrigue” are catching up ... In such a stupid way.

And maybe the subtleties of the translation. In Russian, this news should sound like this: "... the S-500 complex was tested in compliance with the secrecy regime ..." and the translation turned out to be "... Russian quieters secretly, not in a bad luck, in a rat tested their air defense system .. . "

[Ovsen]

Woke up. Found an open secret
Information from the site Made with us from 24.05.2018.

It became known that the day before in Russia at the Nizhny Novgorod Machine-Building Plant, mass production of advanced S-500 anti-aircraft missile systems, which were installed on a car chassis, began.

It is worth noting that according to the plans of the defense department in the near future, the S-500 Prometheus will be able to replace the S-2007 anti-aircraft missile system that has been in service since 400. In total, the S-500 should work in the army for at least 25 years. It is with the expectation of relevance and superiority in this area that the new anti-aircraft systems are designed. It is planned to begin general deliveries of S-500 to regular troops in 2020.

On the eve it became known that the production of the S-500 “Prometheus” was launched at a new plant in Nizhny Novgorod, which was built in 5 years by the Almaz-Antey concern precisely for these purposes.

[askort154]

The S-500 has long been no secret. And here is the S-600 ???

[Bar1]

Quote: askort154

The S-500 has long been no secret. And here is the S-600 ???

can you show then c500, since it’s not a secret ??

[Ripap]

And the point of showing it, it looks exactly the same as the S-300 and S-400 from the outside. All the difference is in the rockets and the stuffing, and nobody will show it to you.

[Bar1]

Quote: RipRap

And the point of showing it, it looks exactly the same as the S-300 and S-400 from the outside. All the difference is in the rockets and the stuffing, and nobody will show it to you.

and zircon, what does a dagger look like?

[Strips]

. This is 50 miles (about 80,5 km) longer than the range of any modern anti-aircraft missile system.

Really?

[A good one]

"Comrade, believe: she will rise,
Captivating Star of Happiness,
Russia will wake up from a dream,
And on the ruins of autocracy
They will write our names! "

[Altona]

I have the impression that Ukrainian bloggers and American spies are literally everywhere, and everywhere there are buckets of leaks in the media of the most diverse secret and official information. This is of course a joke, but with this, you know, a small fraction of the joke.
PS In the USSR, they would write like that the test rocket hit a target in near (far) space. Then everyone would guess where this near (far) space is. And here they give everything to the enemies in full view. And in the morning you read all this military "analytics".

[Monster_Fat]

Once we recorded the tests and determined the range, it means that the missile that fell into the ill-fated Boeing in Ukraine, too, was recorded .... However, the data about that event does not provide .... they are silent "like partisans" ....

[rotmistr60]

They wrote about the "secret" trials in order to overestimate their significance and the presence of "reliable sources".

It is emphasized that for the S-500 "there is no such problem as the F-35 or F-22," since the S-500 is able to "easily recognize these aircraft and strike at them."

Well, at least it was noted. And then, according to a developed habit, they could write about poorly prepared "cartoons", an ear on clay feet, etc.

[bouncyhunter]

Gene, hello! Another bunch in a puddle from America with sucking facts from the finger.

[ul_vitalii]

Pasha, good health They have a lot of peas in store for such cases, so besides the fact that we read them, we listen, they are forced to feel.

[bouncyhunter]

Hi Vitaliy!

Quote: ul_vitalii

forced and feel.

Zadolbalo already change the filters in the gas mask.

[1 Navigator]

It must be tested in Syria, so that the `` chosen '' trickles between the legs flowed and the pants were always wet.

[gabonskijfront]

If they land, then their entire algorithm of military operations, which has been developed over decades, will collapse. The rule of the air in the air is something without which the Americans will not budge.

[K-50]

USA: C-500 test secretly conducted in Russia

Chesslovo some deby loids.
Testing in the military is not the kind of information worth trying on every corner. If otherwise allowed, then there is a political motive for this, therefore it can only be disclosed in the interests of the state.

[anykin]

Shh. Give the forums all secretly discuss)

[bald]

That is, that is, and yet theirs specialists, in science, also realize that improvement is natural. Science works at home (except naturally) and only cheap methods remain.

[Ross xnumx]

In Russia, they do a lot secretly. Secretly sent the videoconferencing to Syria, secretly took meldonium under the state doping program, secretly poured (smeared, poured) the "newcomer" Skripalyam, under the heading "Top Secret" held a parade on May 9 ... But the Jankers have it all open and wherever you look, either donkey ears stick out, or an elephant trunk moves, or a pheasant hairstyle looms ...

[HMR333]

balabol hardly anyone would have leaked such an info! rather, they came up with it as hot news after the president’s decree to speed up development from 500!

[Micfoster]

Obviously the next CNBC report will be on "Does Putin Have a Death Star?"

[Jurkovs]

The plant in Nizhny Novgorod announced the start of serial production of the S-500, which means that the tests have already passed successfully. That’s the whole logic of the sensation from American magazines.

[Altona]

Quote: ROSS 42

Secretly sent the videoconferencing to Syria, secretly took meldonium under the state doping program, secretly poured (smeared, poured) the "newcomer" Skripalyam, under the heading "Top Secret" held a parade on May 9 ...

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Yesterday, I learned about the "secret" fingerprints of the Russian military on (attention!) The head of the Buk missile launcher (which explodes creates a kind of sphere from fragments that hits the flying target), which the Dutch investigator Westerbek personally saw and recognized. Afiget same news. Westerbeke collected the head part from small fragments apparently personally.

[Monster_Fat]

collected the head part from small fragments

"Bullet .... Bursting ...." thought Stirlitz, "with a little brain" ....

[Captain45]

Quote: Altona

Westerbeke collected the head part from small fragments apparently personally. laughing laughing

I apologize, tell me whose head part Westerbeck collected from small fragments? Do I understand correctly what is mine?

[Cheshire]

Hehe ... a great secret ... this is ... actually they tested the rocket yet ... from the stationary site.

[Aleks2048]

What is it that again, the American military-industrial complex is so veiledly trying to stand in the pose of Kisa Vorobyaninov and beg for money?

[Old26]

Quote: Cube123

They’re not intriguing. And the method is not stupid. Is it really not clear that this is already a well-established technology? A throw is made on the question that interests you, and then the reaction to it is analyzed in social networks. Suddenly someone is chatting. And after all there are such. And this technology is cheap and very effective.

And they do it well, at least 40 years, no less. Back in the early 80s, a similar trick was applied, though by the British, but that doesn’t matter in their journal "Space Flights". They have a section in this journal (or was, I don’t know now). which was called "Letters." It seems that readers are writing. so here. for about a year, letters very similar to each other appeared on behalf of the "readers". Then rumors were already leaking about the creation of the Buran system in the USSR. The question usually stood like this:
- Dear sir! I heard (a) that in the Soviet Union a system is being created similar to the American Space Shuttle system, but only with higher characteristics. And the Russian ship is capable of putting 75 tons of cargo into orbit

The answer sounded something like this.
Dear (a) xxxxxxxx. You are both right and wrong at the same time. The USSR is really developing a system similar to the American one, but according to our sources, its carrying capacity is less, about 60 tons.

This is printed in the magazine in this section. After 1-2 numbers the “letter” is repeated, only in the question there are no 75 tons of cargo, but 60, and the answer is not 60, but 50. And so several times until the letter indicates 40, and the answer is about 30 This is the letter with relatives of TTX that our valiant censorship ministers removed from the reprint edition of this journal, which was in the public domain in many libraries. I somehow asked our curator from the office, is it really not clear that such a withdrawal is a unmasking sign and means that they have hit either a point or almost a point. The answer was - this structure is not subordinate to us, they seize everything that more or less corresponds to realities (in relation to Soviet technology)

Applied technologies have now changed, but the principles of work have remained the same. Just don’t have to wait for months and stretch this “test” for months. The effect of social networks will be quite fast

Quote: Polite Elk

And maybe the subtleties of the translation. In Russian, this news should sound like this: "... the S-500 complex was tested in compliance with the secrecy regime ..." and the translation turned out to be "... Russian quieters secretly, not in a bad luck, in a rat tested their air defense system .. . "

It may very well be. For we translate. not them. And given the level of technical knowledge of our translators, everything can be

Quote: Lamb

Information from the site Made with us

Another source. They may have the phrase that work has begun on preparing mass production to turn into "mass production started." First you need to answer one question. Is the S-500 system adopted? And dance from here. If it goes through LCI, then hardly any mass production can be discussed. Moreover, even the GDP said "about accelerating the start of mass production", and not that the system is "mass-produced."

Quote: Navigator 1

It must be tested in Syria, so that the `` chosen '' trickles between the legs flowed and the pants were always wet.

And what else should be experienced in Syria? Thermonuclear bombs? After all, they have also never been tested for goals? ICBM maybe? What a mania "pull to Syria."

[CAT BAIYUN]

Well, I see ... They wrote. But why do not I see a catch phrase about the amount of money needed to catch up with Russia?

[_Ugene_]

PVO-PRO S-500

So what missiles will the S-500, ICBMs shoot down?

[voyaka uh]

Hardly. Look at the missile defense missiles deployed in Alaska. They are huge, since they have to have time to launch into space the kinetic killers that will meet the warhead ICBMs in the middle part of the trajectory. S-500, in theory, should become an analogue of the IJIS system.
Able to intercept ballistic missiles flying along a trajectory in space above it.
Or an analogue of THAAD, which encounters warhead ICBMs upon descent to an object.
You need to look at the rocket to understand its capabilities.

ICBMs are intercepted by such hefty missiles.

[Charik]

why are we going to look at Alaska, for example, I’ll look at Sary-Shaganskaya, in theory the S-500 should surpass thaads and izhis

[voyaka uh]

Well, I'm about the same. To understand what a rocket is capable of, you need to look at it.

[_Ugene_]

I think it’s much more likely that the missile launcher flying in space above it than the warhead of ICBMs during descent, so that you need to understand not only the rocket, but also the radar

[voyaka uh]

I then think that the S-500 is more likely focused on the destruction of low-flying satellites. To remove American satellite control and orientation systems.
To destroy missile warheads you need a direct hit. Fragments are not enough, since warheads are wrapped in armor from heat-resistant (and very durable) materials.
And such a device - the "kinetic killer" Russia has not yet invented. So here it comes down to a very advanced electronics and optics. Israel also did not invent it, but received from the Americans a Hatz ready for its missiles.

[_Ugene_]

I then think that the S-500 is more likely focused on the destruction of low-flying satellites.

I agree, I also immediately thought about the satellites in low orbits, perhaps the same ballistic missile defense

To destroy missile warheads you need a direct hit.

It’s almost not real, too far from previous systems

[Charik]

"meteorite" over Chelyabinsk than Rikhtanuli is clearly not a gift from the Americans

[Vadim237]

If you look at the variant of the launch container C 500 - it turns out that the missiles are the same in size

[sib.ataman]

Well, not all cat Shrovetide! And we will once walk a gogol!

[Livonetc]

This is 50 miles (about 80,5 km) longer than any modern anti-aircraft missile system.

And what a complex it is.
They would have voiced.
As I understand it, C400. and C300?

[pavelwf1]

Well, experienced and Cho! ???? At that time, half of the country was quietly sleeping in its beds.
And what should this Ob shout to the whole world and permission to ask !! ???)))))))
Thanks to the American media for great news for Russian housewives.
Sleep, tighter. will be! ;)

[Valerevich]

They what? Well, they tested a new weapon, they tested it ...

[NF68]

Is it time to introduce new sanctions against Russia?

[Wolka]

so that the Yankees stock up on diapers and climb into their holes, I think Prometheus for a long time will discourage you from climbing into someone else's sky ...