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Expected in June: A captured fighter of the Armed Forces of Ukraine told about the planned offensive

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The command of the APU plans to launch an offensive in the Donbass on the eve of the opening of the World Cup in Russia, reports RIA News statement of the captured fighter of the Ukrainian army Vasily Zimilinsky.




We were told that the offensive would begin either on the eve of the presidential elections in Russia, the snow would melt and the earth would dry out, or during the World Cup,
Zimilinsky said at a briefing in the Donetsk Republic.

According to him, the troops are constantly discussing this topic. Commanders say that the order is already there, "and all a matter of time."

Zimilinsky also said that troops near the line of contact began to receive more ammunition and fuel and lubricants. In addition, the advanced units promised to transfer anti-tank complexes Javelin.

Another prisoner, who also answered journalists' questions, confirmed the words of his colleague. He added that artillery systems were set up at the forefront of the Ukrainian troops.

Both of them said that they did not put pressure on the territory of the DPR.

As explained by the representative of the military department of the republic, one of the fighters who attended the briefing was declared a deserter by the command of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, although both were captured on the battlefield, although at different times.

According to Sergey Markov, the director of the Institute of Political Studies, the attack of the Armed Forces of Ukraine is planned in the period approximately from June 3 to June 6. During the week, troops are expected to break the resistance of the militia. After that, Kiev can put tough conditions on Moscow: either Russia continues to help the DPR and LNR, and then there will be a boycott of the championship, or it agrees that the militia will be completely “crushed by military means”.

In turn, Petro Poroshenko, who was present the day before when checking the combat readiness of Javelin complexes, openly declared that he was not going to fulfill the condition of the United States not to apply this weapon in the Donbass.
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  1. vkl.47
    vkl.47 24 May 2018 08: 20
    +12
    More "good" and different "cornets."
    1. Sergey-svs
      Sergey-svs 24 May 2018 08: 25
      +29
      We could have waited until June 22, so that in the tradition of the Wehrmacht ... a blitzkrieg, so to speak, would have done ... a plan for Barbarossa and all that ... stop And I hope that both in the Donbas and in Moscow they perfectly understand this, have prepared and provided for all the options. Yes
      1. Gargantua
        Gargantua 24 May 2018 08: 55
        +4
        at hohloforumy lay out exactly the same coffins, only with the flag of Russia. you’ve gone not far from them, or rather one to one fool
        1. vovanpain
          vovanpain 24 May 2018 09: 30
          +21
          Quote: Gargantua
          you’ve gone not far from them, or rather one to one

          Where did you see the coffins with flags? belay
          1. Gargantua
            Gargantua 24 May 2018 10: 38
            +1
            This type with an emoticon avatar in the commentary had an image of a coffin with a flag of the right sector. He then edited the comment.
            1. Kent0001
              Kent0001 24 May 2018 10: 47
              +8
              The coffin with the flag of the right-wingers, I’m only for it, the fewer these crazy dogs in the world, the better.
              1. Gargantua
                Gargantua 24 May 2018 10: 49
                0
                If you stoop to this, then you are no better than these animals. What about
                Quote: Kent0001
                the less rabid dogs there are, the better.

                I'm all for it good
                1. Mestny
                  Mestny 24 May 2018 10: 59
                  +7
                  You did not understand.
                  These are fascists. Enemies ready to kill us.
                  What other "symbols" should we draw here?
                  In the fight against fascism, all means are good.
                  And about "you are the same as they are" - tell this to veterans of the Second World War, who just fought with the Nazis.
                  1. Tatyana
                    Tatyana 24 May 2018 12: 12
                    +9
                    You know what excites me!
                    1. The final part of the Black Sea Championship-2018 will be held in Russia from June 14 to July 15
                    2. NATO’s Saber Strike-2018 military maneuvers will start on June 3 and will last a little less than two weeks. The teachings promise to be one of the most ambitious and representative in recent times. Israel will even participate for the first time in them.
                    3. The offensive of the Armed Forces in the form of a blitzkrieg is planned by Poroshenko and Co. in the period from approximately 3 to June 6. Within a week, the APU is expected to break the resistance of the militia. After that, Kiev can impose harsh conditions on Moscow: either Russia continues to help the DPR and LPR, and then there will be a boycott of the championship, or agrees that the militia will be completely “crushed by military means.
                    In this case, PoroshenkoWhich On the eve I was present during the check of the combat readiness of the Javelin complexes, openly declared that he was not going to fulfill the US condition not to use these weapons in the Donbass.

                    So, from all these 3 points, it logically follows that the military maneuvers of the Saber Strike-2018 of the NATO countries are not just tactically ahead of time for the Black Sea Championship-2018, but they have the same strategic goal as Poroshenko from the Armed Forces in the Donbass.
                    In any case, such a logical synthesis follows from such analytics!
                    1. megadeth
                      megadeth 24 May 2018 15: 47
                      0
                      Geyropeytsy not climb, why do they then Ukrainians ..
                      1. Tatyana
                        Tatyana 24 May 2018 21: 50
                        +1
                        The fact that Israel is taking part in NATO military exercises suggests that the United States and Israel have in fact begun dividing the territory of Ukraine. Namely.

                        Israel plans to create in Ukraine "Israel-2" under the name "New Israel" or "Heavenly Jerusalem".
                        For this, the Zionists of Ukraine and Israel intend to get for themselves in Ukraine 5 regions: 1) Dnepropetrovsk, 2) Zaporizhzhya, 3) Kherson, 4) Nikolaev, 5) Odessa - on the grounds that this is partly here until the summer of 964. e. The Jewish Khazar Khaganate was located, which modern Zionists of Israel and Ukraine decided to restore for Jewish Jews as "Heavenly Jerusalem".

                        It is clear that the ideology of Judaism and Zionism in Ukraine is one thing, and the implementation of these ideas there in practice is another. And without an armed conflict with the local non-Jewish population in Ukraine, the Zionists of Israel can not do. That is why the Israeli armed forces are preparing for this mission in another natural zone.

                        Israeli citizens assure the Russians that Israel does not allegedly provoke Russia near its very Russian borders, and only seeks to get "trivial" combat skills in the grassy-wooded area of ​​the Baltic states in order to limit themselves to fighting skills in their own desert on BV. That at the same time, Israel allegedly has no economic benefits for itself, except for the financial and material costs of the transfer of military equipment, personnel, etc. to the Baltic states.
                        This is nothing more than a manipulation of public opinion! Why?
                        Yes, because in the near future the annexation of at least 5 of the Ukrainian administrative-territorial regions of Ukraine is a geopolitical PRIZE for Israel (and the USA) - i.e. its final tearing by foreigners.
                        Historical reference.
                        Khazar Khaganate is the first parasite state.
                        The history of Khazaria is divided into two periods - before and after the adoption of Judaism.
                        1. In the first period, the role of the Khazars was progressive.
                        2. The second period is sharply negative. In the VI century, the persecuted Jewish community came to Khazaria, which the Khazars took to their kindness. This community, with the help of the “Institute of Jewish Brides,” seized power in the Khazars and turned it into an aggressive parasitic state. With the help of mercenaries - the Pechenegs and the Guz - part of the Khazars was destroyed, the rest were imposed a heavy tribute. The development of agriculture and cattle breeding has been replaced by mediation and parasitic enrichment of the ruling elite. One of the main sources of income was the slave trade, in particular Slavic slaves. To do this, mercenaries paid by the Jews raided Russia.
                        Jewish Khazar Khaganate was defeated in 964 year A.D. Prince Svyatoslav.
                        See in detail - http://razvitie4.ru/hazarskij-kaganat.html

                        UKRAINE is being cleared under Heavenly Jerusalem. Published: May 24 2017
                    2. anykin
                      anykin 25 May 2018 09: 58
                      +1
                      Quote: Tatiana
                      to set stringent conditions for Moscow: either Russia continues to help the DPR and LPR, and then there will be a boycott of the championship, or agrees that the militia will be completely “crushed by military means.

                      I believe that the text requires correction.
                      Either Russia continues to help the DPR and LPR, and then there will be a boycott of the championship, or agrees that the militia will be completely crushed by military means and then they will be allowed to see how their athletes roll the ball.
                      1. Tatyana
                        Tatyana 25 May 2018 10: 54
                        0
                        Quote: anykin
                        I believe that the text requires correction. Either Russia continues to help the DPR and LPR, and then there will be a boycott of the championship, or agrees that the militia will be completely crushed by military means and then they will be allowed to see how their athletes roll the ball.

                        Alas! Situation in your interpretation CORRECT. However, by and large it’s still just a TACTICAL method from the side of the geopolitical opponent (made on the principle of “forks” or even “check” in the chess geopolitical game according to Brzezinski) against Russia and the “Russian-Slavic world” in full accordance with the West Overton’s windows to achieve its main - STRATEGIC - goals. It is for these strategic goals of the adversary that Russia and all those concerned should pay their SPECIAL attention.
                        In fact, the indicated STRATEGIC goal on the part of Israel about the “New Jerusalem” may seem to some to be insanely far from reality - even schizophrenic. However, history shows that such goals can be quite attainable if one moves towards them scrupulously according to a well-drawn up plan and secretly from other people who are victims of such aggression.
            2. Sergey-svs
              Sergey-svs 24 May 2018 11: 35
              +8
              Quote: Gargantua
              This type with an emoticon avatar in the commentary had an image of a coffin with a flag of the right sector. He then edited the comment.

              Tovarich, if you still do not understand, then here especially comments can not be edited. I personally did not delete the photo ... the moderator did it and, apparently, your complaint seems to be. Yes
              PS I have nothing to be ashamed of ... I believe that Bandera is crazy maniacs or, in other words, brutalized cattle ... negative
      2. Iline
        Iline 24 May 2018 09: 44
        +6
        Georgia’s experience in starting a war during the Olympic Games did not teach anything. If only they would have asked Saakashvili while he hung around in Ukraine to conduct trainings on chewing ties.
        1. Kent0001
          Kent0001 24 May 2018 10: 49
          0
          I like the lack of analysis in such reasoning. Now it’s not then, now we are tied hand and foot at the 2018 World Cup, SP-2, just sanctions that will collapse the stock market for us in a couple of hours and the ruble exchange rate by 20-30 percent. So, start to think with your head, stop playing cheers-patriots.
          1. Ivan Ivanov
            Ivan Ivanov 24 May 2018 13: 29
            +1
            Yes, at this level of confrontation, a completely different level of import substitution and forward planning is needed.
          2. Iline
            Iline 24 May 2018 19: 21
            +3
            How is Russia related to Ukraine related to the 2018 World Cup, SP-2, simply by sanctions?
            2018 World Cup will not be? With SP-2 are worn like a du..ki with shag. They do not want to raise the competitiveness of their economy - they are holding the flag, we need to quickly build up the Power of Siberia. Won Ukraine buys reverse Russian gas (and, in fact, takes it directly from the gas pipeline, but pays Slovaks for the reverse type) and is quite happy for now. South Stream was covered up in due time - and not a single Gazprom shareholder was left without fantastic dividends.
            The ruble exchange rate on the numbers voiced by you, speculators can collapse just for one reason - the Pope sneezed and no one can influence it. The first exchanges were founded for speculative capital (tell me which country?) And remained essentially the same. All these stock markets are an interesting thing - the plant stands, manufactures products, neither the factory buildings nor the products it produces disappear anywhere. But today it is estimated at 1 ruble, and tomorrow 2. With what fright? Has the course changed?
            And further. “Hurray-patriot” for its service brought many to life despite exchanges, funds, sanctions and world championships.
            1. astronom1973n
              astronom1973n 25 May 2018 09: 31
              +1
              Quote: Iline
              And further. “Hurray-patriot” for its service brought many to life despite exchanges, funds, sanctions and world championships.

              good
    2. siberalt
      siberalt 24 May 2018 08: 46
      +14
      The saying has already appeared in the Donbass: "Gorlovites, die quietly, do not frighten off the Russian mundial." Sadness, however! winked
      1. dorz
        dorz 24 May 2018 08: 55
        +6
        Quote: siberalt
        Do not frighten off the Russian mundial. "Sadness, however! winked

        Don’t scare Nord Stream 2 and oil prices, do not give a damn about fascism. Pompeo has already announced new sanctions. sad
      2. Gargantua
        Gargantua 24 May 2018 08: 57
        +6
        Such a time, however, such rotten leaders winked
        1. shurik
          shurik 24 May 2018 09: 30
          +3
          And what prevented you from choosing another LEADER this spring?
          1. just exp
            just exp 24 May 2018 10: 14
            +5
            But how can we choose the president of Ukraine?
          2. Gargantua
            Gargantua 24 May 2018 10: 44
            +3
            The same thing that helped re-elect EBN in the 96th year, the decibels in the country remained the same, we have no other people, unfortunately request
            1. Ivan Ivanov
              Ivan Ivanov 24 May 2018 13: 33
              +1
              I agree, on the other hand, it’s hard to say how good a sternum would be in confrontation in alliance with the Communist Party and nationalist monarchists (the union is very strange, raw), it's hard to say. The program was normal.
          3. altimo1
            altimo1 24 May 2018 11: 36
            +1
            We really like your president. Since he is trying to destroy Ukraine on the lands of South-Western Russia, one still needs to search.
          4. megadeth
            megadeth 24 May 2018 15: 51
            0
            Alternative
        2. DenZ
          DenZ 24 May 2018 10: 04
          +4
          Yes, you are right in Ukraine very rotten leaders. And as soon as the people chose them. They say already 80% of the population does not approve of Poroshenko’s actions. But the Marines have recently done so general sabotage. Something like this.
      3. olegfbi
        olegfbi 24 May 2018 10: 12
        +3
        Actually, the decision has long been announced, back in October 2017!
        ""There will be a massacre, but we will not allow it.""© V.V. Putin.
      4. VO3A
        VO3A 24 May 2018 10: 19
        +4
        We think simply ... There is a political side, but there is a military side ....
        The political part is simple and consistent, there are no problems ..
        Sample scenario:
        - it is reported about new (old) data from the FSB that the regime in Ukraine is illegal, fascist, that it destroys the Donbass and the latter in the person of people must be protected;
        - sanctions for our intervention, so we have already been punished for the fact that our troops are there, so they can be entered painlessly .....
        The military unit ... And then there are problems ... Russia does not know how to fight in such a war without its losses ... We are not ready, but donbass cannot be covered with the corpses of our soldiers ..... The soldiers do not go through the option in any war .. ... We do not have the opportunity to freeze the conflict by force ... We do not know how, there are no modern technical means, complete backwardness in the implementation of modern information technologies .... It would seem simple, fixed the demarcation line and control it with the help of technical devices and in depth too .... Just that it was stirred, immediately the fire impact ... The MLRS and self-propelled guns would be enough ..... The border (demarcation line) was closed and that's it ... Aviation cannot be used - immediately a full-blown conflict, I don’t want to conquer , yes and it is not necessary ..... Po_dos are just waiting for this ..... The Russian army is not ready for such control and such a freezing of the situation .... The thing is the complete absence of Combat Information Systems, which see and provide everything real-time response, without direct combat contact, receiving information from technical devices (UAVs, stationary observation posts, reconnaissance aircraft, satellites ...). We all have this separately, but they don’t give out information to weapons systems, and the response time is several hours .... and everything is in manual mode ... Everything is like in Syria .. We do not know how, are not ready ... But we have everything for this ... There is no understanding, no concept, no solutions .... And there are so many smart leaders, and they’re not ready to fight in a modern war .... There are no reconnaissance and target designation systems and combat systems based on them that provide real-time response .... Instead, such as Gerasimov, something at times reduces ... At times this is yesterday, and in modern warfare, information and target designation and response should occur in real time ... This is a network-centric approach .... So, I'm sorry Donbass, the Russian army is not ready, it can not and will not wants to be able to .....
        1. vovanpain
          vovanpain 24 May 2018 10: 30
          +5
          Quote: VO3A
          So, I'm sorry Donbass, the Russian army is not ready, does not know how and does not want to be able .....

          So, excuse Donbass for such not smart people on the forum and a warm couch with a cat that everyone knows and knows where the General Staff is before them laughing That would be to find out that the superanalyst smokes such a sticky thing that he so pins. laughing
          1. VO3A
            VO3A 24 May 2018 10: 44
            +2
            Who studied what! Some people think, they try to solve the problem ... Others, they continue to smoke and refer to sofas, they don’t know anything ... Object, prove these judgments conclusively .... Can't, then it might be better to keep silent ???
        2. Kochegarkin
          Kochegarkin 24 May 2018 10: 45
          +7
          What is our "sofa general" drew !!!
          Quote: VO3A
          Russia does not know how to fight in such a war without its losses

          in what it is "such", you my friend tell us in more detail what kind of war it is there ??? there are two sides, our own and those of others, there is an understanding of the weapons available to the enemy, with 85% understanding and knowledge of the weapons, the 08-08-08 errors were adopted a few days after the start of the conflict, the types of weapons that are not familiar are already became trophies and acquaintances. a war, or rather a military operation "forcing peace" in this case consists in training and reconnaissance using electronic warfare and radio-electronic warfare, suppression, destruction, and as a rule with minimal use of human resources. and after that. stripping.
          Quote: VO3A
          . We do not know how, there are no modern technical means, a complete backwardness in the implementation of modern information technologies

          yes, you respected (so far) are 40 years behind the times, all the necessary "technical means" were in the arsenal of the USSR, and the armaments of the RA are already modernized and new ones. I live in the border zone, we build a town here and place a unit, annually (for 3 years in a row) 3-4 parades take place 98-XNUMX times a year with the display standing in service in "our" unit (within the permissible limits), and believe me, from the XNUMXth (I said goodbye to the VTI RF RF) quite a lot of interesting things appeared.
          Quote: VO3A
          in the complete absence of Combat Information Systems, which see everything and provide real-time response, without direct combat contact, receiving information from technical devices (UAVs, fixed observation posts, reconnaissance aircraft, satellites ...). All of this we individually have , but they don’t give out information only to weapons systems, and the response time is several hours .... and everything is in manual mode ..

          Are you sure about that? I would not recommend that you are located on the opposite side of our "manually controlled" fire and OTG control systems ... then you will have to take my word for it, and if you don’t want to believe, you can furry ("Googlit") on the subject of arming the systems of operational tactical command and control units, you will be pleasantly surprised, and also by the timing.
          Quote: VO3A
          Everything is like in Syria .. We do not know how, are not ready

          why are we not ready for this, our VKS (it still hurts from renaming, even though I didn’t belong to them), combat losses are several times less than during a coercive operation, and the fact that the “barmaley” have no air defense in part, we have "friendly" coalition forces spoiling the air there. intelligence on our part, including target designation at the highest level, at least there are no complaints, the security and defense of the air bases are “solid five”, so what are you not ready for ????
          Quote: VO3A
          So, I'm sorry Donbass, the Russian army is not ready, does not know how and does not want to be able .....

          and I would be in your place - I apologized to the readers for such a hasty decision and conclusion, RA - can, learns and will improve its capabilities and skills in peacetime, and will demonstrate all the acquired knowledge and skills - in the military.
          1. sdc_alex
            sdc_alex 24 May 2018 12: 19
            +3
            Quote: The Stoker
            What is our "sofa general" drew !!!

            He had been "drawn" for a long time ... only earlier he called differently .... OKO, it seems ... or something like that. Also always and everywhere raved "combat information systems, robots and other death stars! wassat
          2. VO3A
            VO3A 24 May 2018 12: 41
            +1
            There is nothing in your porridge except established stereotypes and superficial judgments ... One can only believe in the word of his own ... EW and RER are immediately destroyed, and they are not at all nearby, are the letters similar or something? Protection of bases from partisans by 3, no more ... Target designation "0" ... Apart from the death row heroes-spotters there is nothing in real time .... Who is 40 years behind is quite obvious, even in the manner of presentation of the material ... . And lastly, everyone should be in their place ....
            1. Kochegarkin
              Kochegarkin 24 May 2018 14: 21
              +1
              electronic warfare systems are just designed to cover electronic reconnaissance equipment, which they did not immediately destroy. target designation is a guidance system. and they get coordinates from a number of sources, suicide bombers heroes sunk into oblivion at the beginning of the Second World War, now targeting is taken from surveillance systems, satellites, drones, radio direction-finding ...
              Quote: VO3A
              for 40 years, quite obviously, even in the manner of presentation of the material.

              if to you, my gracious sovereign, my syllable is not sweet, if you please, it will be explained - from what? What warps you in my word?
              1. VO3A
                VO3A 24 May 2018 14: 25
                0
                It doesn’t bother me, you just fell behind forever .....
                1. Kochegarkin
                  Kochegarkin 24 May 2018 14: 28
                  +1
                  and I won’t argue with that ... I just studied (for my sake) the Aqueduct and R-149 class radio stations. Therefore, for me, everything on microprocessors is a dark forest ...
                  Z.Y. but I probably agree with you ... our army does not know how to fight ... and I have no reason to convince anyone of this, and I don’t want our guys to prove to Europeans that the 41st year is something that we don’t forgotten, and the 45th is something that they should remind ...
                  1. VO3A
                    VO3A 24 May 2018 14: 34
                    0
                    Yes, here you are right, all the talk because we don’t want 41 years old again, nuclear weapons certainly insure us globally, but nuclear weapons do not help to defend our interests in local conflicts ...
    3. zloybond
      zloybond 24 May 2018 20: 07
      0
      And someone will remind you of what Russian hucksters are involved in (providing supplies) in the supply of fuel and lubricants to Ukraine for the victorious destruction of the Russian population in New Russia ????
  2. Livonetc
    Livonetc 24 May 2018 08: 22
    +11
    If there was a real order of advance, then there would be an indication of its non-disclosure.
    And mid-level commanders would have known its contents shortly before the start.
    They can assume.
    But this is the song of every spring.
    That will dry up and ....
    And you need to be ready to reflect constantly.
    1. mari.inet
      mari.inet 24 May 2018 08: 38
      +2
      Perhaps the "leak" of classified information Poroshenko is trying to bargain with Putin. He extorts a chaotic bribe into his pocket. But this bribe really must be significant in order to make Pyotr Alekseevich independent of American instructions.
    2. zhekazs
      zhekazs 24 May 2018 08: 54
      +6
      Quote: Livonetc
      And mid-level commanders would have known its contents shortly before the start.

      Yeah. Rather, another stuffing. In the APU, too, are not fools, they know that if they climb by all means, they can grab specifically from Russia. And Donbass will remain independent, and even come out to its borders. And nobody will drive the APU to Kiev, they will hit and collapse the database, the people of Ukraine must decide with their government, since such independent ones. In the meantime, most likely they will butt on the demarcation line and throw artillery shells on the heads of civilians for a long time to come.
    3. siberalt
      siberalt 24 May 2018 09: 09
      0
      There was infa - "revenge for the brigade commander Mom." There is a jade video of shelling APU positions from artillery. According to some data, on May 21-23, the APU lost: 19 200s and 20 300s, lined up: 1 tank and armored personnel carrier. According to others - 9 tanks and two behi.
      1. Antares
        Antares 24 May 2018 11: 20
        +2
        Quote: siberalt
        There is a jade video of shelling APU positions from artillery


        from this video, little can be understood, except for the fact of the shelling. Especially since the losses
  3. Uncle lee
    Uncle lee 24 May 2018 08: 23
    0
    not going to fulfill the condition of the United States not to use these weapons in the Donbass.
    He uses other weapons, mortal. And for peaceful people. !
  4. Moore
    Moore 24 May 2018 08: 23
    +6
    It is hoped that Telecom has already taken measures to parry these alleged pig provocations.
  5. A good one
    A good one 24 May 2018 08: 23
    +6
    Now there is a process of undercover diplomacy, we will see the result.
    It costs a lot to find out what our reaction will be and how far we can go.
    1. kit88
      kit88 24 May 2018 08: 53
      +3
      It costs a lot to find out what our reaction will be and how far we can go.

      We will not go far, let Paris sleep peacefully. To Kiev, well, maximum to Warsaw ... laughing
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  7. cniza
    cniza 24 May 2018 08: 24
    +14
    A strange army in Ukraine, where privates for half a year are aware of the offensive ...
    1. alexmach
      alexmach 24 May 2018 09: 14
      +6
      But what about the shells and fuels and lubricants brought up more than ordinary soldiers can know?
      1. Zaurbek
        Zaurbek 24 May 2018 09: 17
        +5
        and who unloads and stores them?
        1. alexmach
          alexmach 24 May 2018 11: 29
          0
          I was just going to visit my home at that time.
    2. igorserg
      igorserg 24 May 2018 09: 27
      +1
      Nothing strange. Based on the Russian mentality and unscrupulousness of the enemy, time could easily be calculated. Just as in the 14th no action was taken to “frighten off” the Olympiad, so now the USA has a hope that Russia will not get involved before the end of the championship.
    3. Antares
      Antares 24 May 2018 11: 25
      +1
      Quote: cniza
      A strange army in Ukraine, where privates for half a year are aware of the offensive ...

      Yes, standard reception. How many times did the presentation of the prisoners "end with the threat of an offensive. How many messages are from the Russian Ordilo and the Russian Federation. But in Ukraine itself, on the contrary, they are waiting for an offensive from the Russian Federation. So the two sides" scare "each other SOON
  8. Normal ok
    Normal ok 24 May 2018 08: 27
    +9
    "They told usthat the offensive will begin either on the eve of the presidential election in Russia, as the snow melts and the earth dries out, or during the World Cup,

    So I imagine a set of measures to ensure the secrecy of a future offensive laughing A few months before, ordinary soldiers are gathered and secret plans are told to them laughing We were once taught at the school laughing laughing laughing
    Rave. Just nonsense.
    1. Old bun
      Old bun 24 May 2018 09: 31
      +4
      Quote: Normal ok
      "They told usthat the offensive will begin either on the eve of the presidential election in Russia, as the snow melts and the earth dries out, or during the World Cup,

      So I imagine a set of measures to ensure the secrecy of a future offensive laughing A few months before, ordinary soldiers are gathered and secret plans are told to them laughing We were once taught at the school laughing laughing laughing
      Rave. Just nonsense.

      And on the other hand, with private throws of such a plan, they begin to ignore this kind of information. To consider disinformation. Skip. And the result has been achieved.
      1. Orkraider
        Orkraider 24 May 2018 09: 42
        +2
        Quote: Old Bun
        Quote: Normal ok
        "They told usthat the offensive will begin either on the eve of the presidential election in Russia, as the snow melts and the earth dries out, or during the World Cup,

        So I imagine a set of measures to ensure the secrecy of a future offensive laughing A few months before, ordinary soldiers are gathered and secret plans are told to them laughing We were once taught at the school laughing laughing laughing
        Rave. Just nonsense.

        And on the other hand, with private throws of such a plan, they begin to ignore this kind of information. To consider disinformation. Skip. And the result has been achieved.

        Plus a newbie :)
        Let's remember the beginning of the Great Patriotic War and the defectors, who, too, couldn’t know any plans, and whose opinion was ignored ...

        I also do not believe that without preparation, which should be opened by intelligence, nothing will begin, but:
        - a small area of ​​conflict, a lot of strength and no need to pull up.
        - the existing Armed Forces orders due to the blindness of the OSCE have the necessary reinforcements and there are enough forces to start operations.
        -Amero love to flare up aggravation for major events (remember the beginning of the Maidan, Georgia). The go-ahead for Ukraine’s actions is clearly given from the ocean.

        In general, although Wolves often shout, this time the risks are clearly higher than usual.
        1. Old bun
          Old bun 24 May 2018 09: 47
          +6
          Thank! Our government is too anxious about the championship. And they may not risk starting support, wasting time. During this time, the Donbass will be bled and helping him may just be too late.
          And Gunpowder knows that, and the USA knows that. And they can use our weakness against us.
    2. Lord of the Sith
      Lord of the Sith 24 May 2018 09: 58
      +3
      Thanks for the good mood. laughing
  9. mari.inet
    mari.inet 24 May 2018 08: 34
    +20
    If you choose between a boycott of the championship and the military takeover of the LDP, then let there be a boycott. The world will be left without a championship. But a friend will save his life.
  10. Smoked
    Smoked 24 May 2018 08: 36
    +2
    As censorship was introduced from both sides, the news from there became such a delirium by the scribe.
    1. Antares
      Antares 24 May 2018 11: 28
      +2
      Quote: Smoked
      As censorship was introduced from both sides, the news from there became such a delirium by the scribe.

      this is normal. Information abundance gave way to information hunger. With this nature of the war, information noise comes first. In general, a mast show, under the laws of the show, advertising is needed, but soon offensives, action, battles promise ...
  11. Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 24 May 2018 08: 39
    +8
    You might think that these prisoners are officers of the Armed Forces General Staff. Songs about that, just about to dry out, freeze, screech ... Commanders hang up "noodles" to soldiers ... They need to know something, a platoon-company-battalion ... Preparing for a real attack is massing artillery in areas a breakthrough of up to 100-150 barrels per kilometer, ammunition - by trains, tanks - 80-100 per breakthrough site ... And where is it all? They are going to week infantry under the guise of mortars to storm pre-prepared positions? By targeted approaches, not being able to suppress the LDNR artillery? There are simpler ways to commit suicide ...
    1. Kerensky
      Kerensky 24 May 2018 08: 58
      +1
      Preparing for a real offensive is massing artillery in breakthrough areas up to 100-150 barrels per kilometer, ammunition in echelons, tanks - 80-100 in the breakthrough section ... And where is it all?

      I completely agree. You might think that they do not look after the roads.
      1. sabakina
        sabakina 24 May 2018 09: 11
        +3
        But in the end, do we have intelligence or not? Space, electronic and others? What are we not able to find out what is going on in 100 km. from our border?
  12. RUSS
    RUSS 24 May 2018 08: 42
    +2
    Another crap about the date of occurrence
  13. Egorovich
    Egorovich 24 May 2018 08: 44
    +3
    Ordinary Natsik soldiers rant about the coming offensive of the ukrovermaht, it smacks of crap. And Poproshenko with his Javelins, in the amount of 37 pieces, again looks like a clown. Although he did not get used to it of course.
  14. Tomato
    Tomato 24 May 2018 08: 44
    +4
    Something is not believed. Typically, the General Staff brings information to each ordinary no later than 3 days after the approval of the plan. Holds a briefing, shows a map ......
    Strange.
    1. sabakina
      sabakina 24 May 2018 09: 04
      0
      Strange is not strange, but I would have carried out sudden exercises near the border a couple of days before their “offensive”. Well, just in case. And so that there was more noise from the armored vehicles.
      1. Tomato
        Tomato 24 May 2018 15: 43
        +1
        Sergey Kuzhugetovich, everything is in your power. Spend.
  15. seregatara1969
    seregatara1969 24 May 2018 08: 57
    +1
    such a small article - and how it excites the minds of the reader - drives confusion into the head - then the goal of the Americans in this article is achieved
  16. Moskovit
    Moskovit 24 May 2018 08: 59
    0
    There may be another toad jumping. I think everyone remembers that no competition can save you from defeat. No wonder they have a Georgian battalion.
  17. mikh-korsakov
    mikh-korsakov 24 May 2018 08: 59
    +6
    Here we are! Our leadership has always been proud that our policy is multi-vector and pragmatic. As a result, Poroshenko was recognized as president, although there were not enough reasons to not recognize it, one can recall the ferocious physiognomy of presidential candidate O. Tsarev. It was necessary to strangle the snake in the bud. The capture of Nord did not receive a rebuff either. Terrible warnings from the Foreign Ministry do not count. The offensive in the Donbass will take place. This will be a collapse of Putin’s authority as president with his Minsk and maneuvering in different formats, because the sympathies of the people are on the side of the Donbass (and the media tried to do this). He will not have good decisions. It’s impossible to help really, why expose your military to bullets because of his authority. There were worse times, but there was no mean.
  18. Dave36
    Dave36 24 May 2018 09: 00
    0
    Another Bayan ...
  19. askort154
    askort154 24 May 2018 09: 03
    +1
    More than ever, Americans need to aggravate the situation in Ukraine. Therefore, Poroshenko sharply increased military rhetoric. Of course, there is no order yet (in units), but its expectation is growing. Poroshenko has no choice but to step on the rake again.
    1. Kerensky
      Kerensky 24 May 2018 09: 16
      +2
      To the americans now more than ever need to aggravate the situation in Ukraine.

      Allow me! What for? Can't eat?
  20. Ravik
    Ravik 24 May 2018 09: 06
    +1
    All this was. And they also read stories about Russian frosts ...
  21. Berkut24
    Berkut24 24 May 2018 09: 10
    +2
    After that, Kiev can put tough conditions on Moscow

    Do they have enough space in the duplex for these conditions? Especially tough? I think that the commanders of the 58th army have an envelope with the corresponding order. MO has its own mundial.
    Ukrainians do not understand one simple thing. The beginning of full-scale hostilities will be the basis to consider that "rushed". And the difference for the mundial "rushed" small or large will no longer be. And the scale of the consequences will be determined not in Kiev but in Moscow.
  22. Cheshire
    Cheshire 24 May 2018 09: 13
    +6
    Here it was ... this championship ... let him boycott ... let Fifa worry about him ... to tie up the championship ... and the situation in the Donbass ... this is from the evil one ... football is not worth it ... human blood.
    1. Paranoid50
      Paranoid50 24 May 2018 11: 14
      +2
      Quote: Cheshire
      .this championship ... yes let him boycott ... let Fifa worry about him ... bind the championship ... and the situation in the Donbass ... this is from the evil one ... football is not worth it ... human blood.

      Do not pay attention to the word "completely". As soon as you see the words “championship”, “boycott”, etc. in any article on dill and DB in the Donbass, you can safely stop reading and press “DEL”.Yes What, to the devil, a boycott from some dill that didn’t even go through selection ... laughing Now, according to Borshchev: FIFA is on its way - national teams at a low start, tickets are on sale, the rights to TV broadcasts are bought out. In other words, the stuffing cannot be turned back. So the superfluous mention of the World Cup in the context of events in the Donbass is a magazine accordion, designed for an audience far from football and easily led to such receptions. Thus, accents get lost. Something like when, for example, in an article about the Bulava launches, a howl begins about gas prices. As for the coming "offensive," then "... how many of them fell into this abyss ..." hi
  23. Altona
    Altona 24 May 2018 09: 17
    0
    Quote: siberalt
    The saying has already appeared in the Donbass: "Gorlovites, die quietly, do not frighten off the Russian mundial." Sadness, however!

    -----------------------------
    If Russia wants, the APU will die so quietly that no one will know. Their tanks can only overcome 100 meters from positions at best. All of their means of communication, on-board equipment will be crushed at once.
    1. Antares
      Antares 24 May 2018 11: 30
      +1
      Quote: Altona
      If Russia wants, the APU will die so quietly that no one will know. Their tanks can only overcome 100 meters from positions at best. All of their means of communication, on-board equipment will be crushed at once.

      apparently does not want to. laughing partners all the same.
      Wunderwaffe and the death stars do not offer.
  24. Altona
    Altona 24 May 2018 09: 19
    0
    Quote: askort154
    More than ever, Americans need to aggravate the situation in Ukraine.

    ------------------------------
    Well, yes, only the aggravation of Peter needs to be thoroughly aroused. And then chronically it does not stand with him, everything is only in words.
    1. askort154
      askort154 24 May 2018 09: 32
      0

      Trump went on about Israel, sharpening relations with Iran, and Europe, China and Russia against it. In Syria, they also have a problem. Realizing that they have gone wrong, the Americans need to "level out" the situation, introducing more chaos in world politics. Two points remained - DPRK and Ukraine.
  25. Altona
    Altona 24 May 2018 09: 21
    +5
    Quote: mikh-korsakov
    This will be a collapse of Putin’s authority as president with his Minsk and maneuvering in various formats

    --------------------------
    In my opinion, it is difficult to think of a greater collapse than Medvedev, Mutko, Kudrin, and all-all-all in the government.
    1. Ivan Tucha
      Ivan Tucha 24 May 2018 15: 30
      0
      Perhaps I will support it. Oh, whom, but Kudrin did not expect to see in the composition ...
  26. Zaurbek
    Zaurbek 24 May 2018 09: 21
    +1
    Something will definitely be .. if not an offensive, then some sort of local attack. So far, statistics speak for it. Curators love high-profile events. The Chinese Olympics of the 8th year, Sochi ... and sanctions are being concurrently imposed on the leadership in order to influence the possibility of decision making. Now "pain" points are being felt and I will press harder, and in parallel the Ukroarmii will throw up money and equipment and ammunition.
  27. icant007
    icant007 24 May 2018 09: 26
    0
    The captured Ukrainian sergeant major said that the APU will cross the border on June 22 at exactly 4 a.m. bully
    1. Vadim237
      Vadim237 24 May 2018 09: 41
      +1
      They will cross the Russian border and surrender to the first border detachment.
      1. icant007
        icant007 24 May 2018 10: 01
        +1
        And they will receive citizenship under the resettlement program of compatriots of Russia. wink
        It's time to start on their side the propaganda "Valiant Ukrainian soldiers, drop their weapons, go to the side of the Donbass. You can start a new peaceful life, etc. laughing "
        1. Antares
          Antares 24 May 2018 11: 32
          0
          Quote: icant007
          go to the side of Donbass.

          so 2/3 of Donbass is on the Ukrainian side. Contractors and draftees from Donbass are also in the Armed Forces. And they are also on the "side of the Donbass." laughing
          1. icant007
            icant007 24 May 2018 15: 21
            0
            At exactly wink Then "Bayonets to the ground and home!" wink
  28. Larum
    Larum 24 May 2018 09: 30
    +3
    Again, every week the news is about to come ....
  29. cedar
    cedar 24 May 2018 09: 44
    0
    Poroshenko is a doll in the hands of the puppeteer Volker. Ukraine is a colony of the USA. APU is in fact the NATO units controlled from Washington. If the States climb into Donbas and if they break the Championship, then Russia and Putin will have their hands untied in Syria and in Ukraine. How it will actually look ...
  30. Homeland
    Homeland 24 May 2018 09: 45
    +1
    It’s ridiculous. The specific date of the offensive was announced to all the soldiers ...
  31. Bakht
    Bakht 24 May 2018 09: 58
    +1
    Most likely, the offensive will begin on the 10th. To have a couple of days to react. Russia will have to intervene and the world Cup will be covered with a copper basin. In 2008, the war began on the day of the Olympics. In 2014, a little late and a bit later the Olympics. Now the calculation is that Russia will not want to lose the World Cup. And the delivery of the Javelins just in time. There is time to train personnel.
    If so, then the leadership of the Russian Federation will have to decide which is more important? World Cup or Donbass. The most interesting thing is that no one has an exact answer to this question ....
    1. Sheridan
      Sheridan 25 May 2018 18: 47
      0
      Putin has already answered - Why do we need such a world. If Russia has no place in it.
  32. Horst78
    Horst78 24 May 2018 10: 16
    +3
    Something like this. History has the property of repeating itself. And because of the ukrovermaht, foreign fans will not give up the championship.
  33. Antares
    Antares 24 May 2018 11: 34
    0
    Another "last Chinese" Ukrainian offensive. How much has-5 year gone? But the "fascists" all adhered to the Minsk Pact and did not attack ... laughing
  34. Andrey VOV
    Andrey VOV 24 May 2018 12: 19
    +1
    Quote: VO3A
    Who studied what! Some people think, they try to solve the problem ... Others, they continue to smoke and refer to sofas, they don’t know anything ... Object, prove these judgments conclusively .... Can't, then it might be better to keep silent ???

    And who did you study for?
  35. Butchcassidy
    Butchcassidy 24 May 2018 12: 38
    0
    According to Sergey Markov, the director of the Institute of Political Studies, the attack of the Armed Forces of Ukraine is planned in the period approximately from June 3 to June 6. During the week, troops are expected to break the resistance of the militia. After that, Kiev can put tough conditions on Moscow: either Russia continues to help the DPR and LNR, and then there will be a boycott of the championship, or it agrees that the militia will be completely “crushed by military means”.

    It is obvious that both requirements will be rejected in any case, and no one will leave the 2018 World Cup boycott from sports functionaries - too serious an event and too serious grandmothers.
  36. Zomanus
    Zomanus 24 May 2018 12: 52
    0
    Well, I think that there is something to stop and defeat them.
  37. senima56
    senima56 24 May 2018 13: 19
    0
    Here, “don’t go to your grandmother!” ... Ukrainians understand: “We’ll start the offensive in Donbass before the start of the World Cup! But Muscovites will not fight, so as not to scare away the guests of the World Cup! Here we are, Donbass and take it with our bare hands!” Only when they specifically received the brain, then they started talking about a truce! Therefore, it is necessary to hit so hard to discourage the tread and provoke!
  38. sib.ataman
    sib.ataman 24 May 2018 13: 34
    0
    Quote: Iline
    Georgia’s experience in starting a war during the Olympic Games did not teach anything. If only they would have asked Saakashvili while he hung around in Ukraine to conduct trainings on chewing ties.


    From chewing it is time for them to move on to swallowing! Moreover, the end that crawled out from behind swallows the next craftsman!
  39. sib.ataman
    sib.ataman 24 May 2018 13: 46
    +1
    Quote: siberalt
    The saying has already appeared in the Donbass: "Gorlovites, die quietly, do not frighten off the Russian mundial." Sadness, however! winked


    Mundial is not Mundial, but not Russia rode on the Maidan in Kiev! And all this mess was brewed with Tse Uevropa! How to ride a rake, so we are our own masters! And how to swell for broken dishes, so Russia is mercenary!
    And we for our shoals in the 90s ourselves puffed and puffed so far! And do not yell "Save"! Because you know what kind of rescuers are coming to us in blue helmets and pink tights!
  40. Archivist Vasya
    Archivist Vasya 24 May 2018 17: 39
    0
    And who noticed that the green mound was photographed using retouching? The same overlay area is repeated. So what really was there)))) wink
  41. ARES623
    ARES623 24 May 2018 18: 06
    0
    "We were told that the offensive would begin either on the eve of the presidential election in Russia, as the snow melts and the earth dries out, or during the World Cup,
    said Zhimilinsky at a briefing in the Donetsk Republic. "
    This interrogation must be rolled through all the central channels in Russia. We are not only watching them. Such things are often triggered by prevention from "wrong" actions. In general, of course, Kiev completely lost the coast. In case of exacerbations, it is necessary to equip LDNR both materially and informationally. I think the "volunteers" are ready ...
  42. APASUS
    APASUS 24 May 2018 19: 37
    0
    In my opinion of the Americans, Moscow warned about the red line with the delivery to Kiev of Javelin anti-tank systems. In this light, it was not for nothing that new weapons like Snezhinka and Cheburashka were shown at the parade in Donetsk, I think there is a lot to convey.
  43. dimann271
    dimann271 25 May 2018 18: 50
    0
    My grandfather said: “It's too early, we were removed from Poland, and we were transferred to the Far East! Mother was finished off to Japan, and they lost the Bandera ear-sleeves!” Here is the result!
  44. Lena Petrova
    Lena Petrova 25 May 2018 19: 14
    0
    Quote: igorserg
    the USA has a hope that until the end of the championship Russia will not get involved.

    Russia, it is so unpredictable.
  45. 933454818
    933454818 13 June 2018 13: 34
    0
    In general, it’s strange, of course, to expect that Russia will silently observe how Russians are being destroyed in the neighboring republic, at least on the eve of the World Cup ... Well, even though on June 13th, those who need it were clearly heard Putin's words. ..