Decapitated "Rusal". Where to go to the poor oligarch

It became known that almost all the top executives from the board of directors of the Rusal company decided to leave their posts. Recall that earlier VTB Bank said it would refuse to lend to Rusal projects. Oleg Deripaska left the board of directors of En + 18 in May. At the same time, he intends to leave the board of directors of the Rusal company. It is already known that the chair of Deripaska will be occupied by Philip Melfey, who is the “independent” director of the mentioned En +.

Their positions in the management structures of Rusal gathered immediately to leave 8 representatives of the board of directors, including the company's general director Alexander Buriko. Previously, she held the post of financial director of Rusal. At the same time, the appointment of Mrs. Buriko to the post of general director took place at the end of February of this year and was similar to a purely technical one in connection with the burning scandal around the American sanctions against Rusal.

The decision on the resignation of representatives of the Board of Directors of Rusal officially enters at the end of June, as reported in a number of media.

Vladislav Solovyov, who was in the “presidency” of the company, also decided to go to resign.

Against this background, the United States set new conditions for Oleg Deripaska. It was noted that sanctions may be lifted from the GAZ group of companies, which Deripaska owns if the billionaire himself gives up control over it. This information has been published on the site. OFAC - Offices that in the United States are responsible for foreign assets. Until recently, Deripaska in the GAZ group of companies owned a controlling stake in 60%.

Western clouds thickened over other billionaires from Russia - Roman Abramovich. As you know, London did not extend a visa to Abramovich, and therefore he could not attend the triumph of his Chelsea football club in the FA Cup final.

Is the West trying to turn Russian billionaires into ordinary pensioners? So before retirement, they still need to be finalized. The Pension Fund of Russia will follow this.

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[bulvas]

of course, Deripaska is not sorry but who will steer in companies that are the largest employers and taxpayers in the Russian Federation?

It is already known that the chair of Deripaska will be occupied by Philip Melfay, who is the "independent" director of the mentioned En +.

But Deripaska, Abramovich and others can steer themselves by investing in new production in the country (Russia)

On the finished, created before them, they climbed well, showing their talents primarily in the wars for the legacy of the USSR, now you can work profitably, create something new yourself


Would invest in the Crimea, spite of the enemies

[Uncle lee]

I didn’t manage to keep the “luminos”, let them drag the “cast iron”!

[Star]

It is urgent to withdraw all assets from the West, especially from America.

[PFT]

Quote: Asterisk

It is urgent to withdraw all assets from the West, especially from America.

2 years ago, Putin warned the oligarchs, "return the money to the Russian Federation. Otherwise it will be bad for you" and then "BAD" has come. They themselves are to blame, but the worst thing is that ordinary people will have to “compensate” for their losses.

[Tiksi-3]

Quote: PFT

but the worst thing is that ordinary people will have to “compensate” for their losses.

how?

[For example]

Quote: Asterisk

It is urgent to withdraw all assets from the West, especially from America.

Do you have something to deduce from the states?

And trump got his way - they took off Deripaska. So Trump steers the Russian economy, and Putin launches rockets.
Deputies liquidated and decided not to pass a law on companies that comply with US sanctions in Russia.
So who chose whom: - The Trump Kremlin or vice versa ???

[tap]

And if sanctions are imposed on GDP, will he also leave his post?

[PFT]

Quote: Tiksi-3

Quote: PFT

but the worst thing is that ordinary people will have to “compensate” for their losses.

how?

They will not increase and index salaries and pensions, they will cut back on medicine, education, sports and others, etc. All prices will rise.

[Tiksi-3]

Quote: PFT

They will not increase and index salaries and pensions, they will cut back on medicine, education, sports and others, etc. All prices will rise.

... all of this without Deripaska will be ...... I repeat the question - HOW?

[Saburov]

Quote: PFT

2 years ago, Putin warned the oligarchs, "return the money to the Russian Federation. Otherwise it will be bad for you" and then "BAD" has come. They themselves are to blame, but the worst thing is that ordinary people will have to “compensate” for their losses.

And the fact that the "Guarantor" itself claimed the article of the RF BC 96.11 and 96.12 1. The funds of the Reserve Fund, the National Welfare Fund, may be placed in debt instruments in the form of securities of foreign states, foreign state agencies and central banks of the following countries: Austria; Belgium; Great Britain; Germany; Denmark; Canada; Luxembourg; Netherlands; USA ... is it apparently from ignorance? For some reason, everyone has everything from the "Guarantor", mentally - "patriotic" Zheleznyak, to the "defender of traditional values" Mrs. Mizulina, the children live in those countries that impose sanctions against us. Recently, Mr. Shuvalov said. "There will be no deoffshorization! Money from offshore companies will hurt the Russian economy!" And the list of backbone companies, in respect of which forced deoffshorization was supposed, includes 199 public and private legal entities. This included the largest enterprises, banks, retail chains, central media and other companies, which together provide more than 60% of national GDP. These are Gazprom, Rosneft, Russian Railways, Norilsk Nickel, Transneft, RIA Novosti, Channel One, Russian Post, AFK Sistema and so on. If we add to this list those offshore companies that are not included in the list of backbone companies, it is easy to notice that almost the entire Russian economy, with the exception of grandmothers selling seeds in the market, is tied to offshore companies. And you think that the "Guarantor" does not know about this? That is, again, “Boyars” are bad, and the Tsar is “good?”

Moreover, even if we compare the 90 and the current state of our country, nothing has changed in the essence of power. Lawlessness of officials as it was and is. Lack of justice - as it was, it is. An economy serving the interests of several dozen petro-oligarchs - as it was, it has remained. The financial system as it was a dollar exchanger, so it remains. Investments, instead of developing the domestic economy, as they went primarily to purchase US government bonds, so go. The degradation of education - as it was, is continuing ... Even the foreign policy, which, it would seem, is focused on, did not bring any positive, high-quality fruits! In terms of industry growth span! Union State of Russia and Belarus - span. Ukraine is the span. Asian republics - even Kazakhstan, and that is being rebuilt from us, only the dust is worth it! About foreign countries keep silent out of delicacy.

PS The street gopota came up with a game of thimbles to twist pockets to the client. A world-class gopot came up with a "sovereign-patriotic policy" that local guys hired by her create literally before your eyes. Well, while you stare at her, the same thing happens with your pockets as with the pockets of thimble lovers ... But if it’s easier ... Someone with a clever head seemed to realize that the Russian sucker is not a European sucker. And nevertheless it bites liberal values ​​badly. But on the sovereign-patriotic - with all our pleasure! Do not have any illusions.


Sincerely.

[Uncle lee]

Quote: Saburov

Do not have any illusions.

And what else are there?
Thank you for your review +++++

[anykin]

Quote: PFT

but the worst thing is that ordinary people will have to “compensate” for their loss

Did I understand you correctly? To compensate is good, but to “compensate” is bad.?

[123456789]

And a lot in your west?

[Sergey ippon]

forgot to ask us)

[antivirus]

THIS IS NOT THEIR RESPONSIBILITY - ALL QUESTIONS TO THE WALF, LIFSHITS (LIQUID) - the Volga River flows from far away. The end of the era. only strength (wolfhounds) will protect acquired by overwork.
20 years have passed in the "security auctions"

[Ingvar 72]

Quote from Uncle Lee

I didn’t manage to keep the “luminos”, let them drag the “cast iron”!

Looks like the roof hinted that it was time to go into the shade!
In fact, Deripaska crawled out at the surrender of the Yeltsin family to a certain Anatoly Bykov, who privatized Norilsk Nickel in his favor. Moreover, the inhabitants of Norilsk under the leadership of Bykov lived much better. Although he was a criminal authority.

[Retired2012]

Bykov was Krasnoyarsk .... there .... He led aluminum .... Yes, the plant worked under his guardianship, people made good money ...... And as for crime, so who of the BUSINESSMEN is clean before God and justice? ! Bykov Swan ate ......

[kepmor]

to whom to steer ???? ... and what promising children have grown up among the co-operatives from the "lake" and colleagues in the office ... well, it's just a sight to see ...

[bulvas]

Quote: kepmor

such promising kids have grown up with cooperative workers from the "lake" ...

And where is the "Lake"?

[Sergey-svs]

I did not sleep all night, sobbing into the pillow ... so worried about Deripaska ... and then also the unfortunate Abromovich, the cursed Englishwoman refused a visa ... now she will not be able to connect with her beloved Chelsea ... And how now we will live ... Everything - Russia disappeared ... Slosy on the eyes ...
PS Deripaska and Abramochvich - hold on ... Dmitry Anatolyevich - in a hurry to help ... Vekselberg - he already helped ...

[antivirus]

And now we will live like that ... request Everything - Russia has disappeared ... Slosy on the eyes.

- I noticed - soon the river, in his hometown, will flow back. if Chelsea doesn't help on time

[kepmor]

guess two times ... only by yourself ....
okay ... hint ... Patrushev Jr - Minister s / x ...

[bulvas]

Quote: kepmor

guess two times ... only by yourself ....
okay ... hint ... Patrushev Jr - Minister s / x ...

What does Patrushev have to do with it?

Speech in an article about another

[Redfox11]

Patrushev has nothing to do with the lake cooperative, the elder patrushev was by the way considered in the old days, one of the most talented KGB officers. In those days, it was hard to imagine that Patrushev would be subordinate to Putin.

[Mordvin 3]

Quote: RedFox11

Patrushev has no relation to the cooperative lake

Among the owners of the mansions is Patrushev N.K.

[123456789]

Procurement of grain in Canada will resume ...

[Vadivak]

Quote: bulvas

but who will steer in companies that are the largest employers and taxpayers in the Russian Federation

We demand that the training in public administration be given by conscious workers and soldiers, and that it be started immediately, that is, all workers, the whole poor, immediately begin to be involved in this training.
V.I. Lenin 1917

[bulvas]

Quote: Vadivak

We demand that training in public administration be given by conscious workers and soldiers, and that it be started immediately, that is, all workers, the whole poor, should be immediately involved in this training. V.I. Lenin 1917

poor, she narulit, seen already

[mari.inet]

And the poor at the helm is bad. And Patrushev’s son at the helm is also bad.
Who then should steer? Offer yourself to the helmsmen?
Or are you breathing unevenly towards Navalny and Grudinin? Well, these narulat so narulit. We are tormented by a taxi.

[basmach]

Well, the GDP has already violated. And others like him. Now the question is how to resolve all this.

[forester]

Quote: basmach

Well, the GDP has already violated. And others like him. Now the question is how to resolve all this.

How to resolve? - nationalize! By the way, when there appeared infa about the ultimatum of Deripaska, I wrote that the Americans came to the Bratsk Aluminum Plant - it seems that it has grown together ... the mattress at the head of the company ...

[basmach]

Just nationalization, with the current system will not help. An example is Russian Helicopters. It was privatized, after the collapse it was nationalized, restored and again 25 percent was privatized. While there will be private property, losses will be nationalized, and profit will be privatized.
Story needs to be changed.

[Vadivak]

Quote: mari.inet

And the poor at the helm is bad

In one case, if it is the poverty of the mind.

[Vadivak]

Quote: mari.inet

And Patrushev’s son at the helm is also bad.

And which one? Andrei, for example, was introduced to the state company Rosneft and became an adviser to its head, Igor Sechin. at 25 years old.

[DeusExMachina]

Quote: bulvas

Quote: Vadivak

We demand that training in public administration be given by conscious workers and soldiers, and that it be started immediately, that is, all workers, the whole poor, should be immediately involved in this training. V.I. Lenin 1917

poor, she narulit, seen already

Yeah. The main thing is to tactfully keep silent about the fact that the “poor” “taxed” so that the “taxed” were still not able to lose 100%.

[Vadivak]

Quote: DeusExMachina

The main thing is to tactfully keep silent about the fact that the “poor” “taxed” so that the “taxed” were still not able to lose 100%.

And this I understand about Joseph Vissarionovich

[Alone]

Quote: bulvas

poor, she narulit, seen already

Well, yes, we live on the “stricken poor” and we can’t “rule” in any way.

[Vadivak]

Quote: bulvas

poor, she narulit, seen already

Did you mean Abramovich?

[bulvas]

Quote: Vadivak

Quote: bulvas

poor, she narulit, seen already

Did you mean Abramovich?

Both him and Deripaska are all products of the era when the poor drove
And those who brought the country to the point of being dragged away as a result.

Incidentally, that "poor" who was once nominated to the leadership

[Vadivak]

Quote: bulvas

Incidentally, that "poor" who was once nominated to the leadership

It was not just the poor who pulled it off. The poor woman, as she was, remained so to her. Dragged who cannot get drunk in any way

[Snakebyte]

Come on, he will steer, although formally they will put the vice chairman.

[Andrey Yuryevich]

bulvas (Vasily) Today, 07:52

of course, Deripaska is not sorry for laughing, but who will steer in the companies that are the largest employers and taxpayers in the Russian Federation?

read:

It is already known that the chair of Deripaska will be occupied by Philip Melfay, who is the "independent" director of the mentioned En +.

En + - for reference, registered in an offshore, on the island of Jersey, on the English Channel, in English jurisdiction, have questions?

[Solomon Kane]

..... in the English jurisdiction, have questions?

As they say: the suit is changing, but the gentlemen remain ....
And what kind of nonsense with Roma A.? A person having Her Majesty’s citizenship could not get into Britain?
Heathrow did not accept Roma’s plane ...... so he arrived on his own yacht from the English Channel ...

[Snakebyte]

And did this Melfey take possession of a controlling stake?
Deripaska will put on the board of directors his proteges, formally independent. And they will vote on critical transactions as the owner needs. And Melfay will rake the stuff.

[Gargantua]

Quote: bulvas

On the finished, created before them, they rose well, showing their talents primarily in the wars for the heritage of the USSR,

You think and wonder how? What merits did they manage to grab from the state such huge corporations with dozens of enterprises? And why still they have not been returned back?

[_Sergei_]

Because some people wanted to be shareholders, but they couldn’t give a mind to stocks. We thought the shares themselves would be profitable. Here such lovers and bought up stocks.

[RUSS]

Quote: bulvas

Abramovich and others may well steer themselves by investing in new production in the country (Russia)

So he already steered in Chukotka and by the way even very good.

[Vadivak]

Quote: RUSS

So he already steered in Chukotka and by the way even very good.

In Stary Oskol grows cucumbers. There are plans for investments in Crimea

[Ivan Ivanov]

Quote: bulvas

but who will steer in companies that are the largest employers and taxpayers in the Russian Federation?

It is also interesting that it is not so difficult to push the oligarchs away from the assets appropriated by them, and there was no need for any blood that the GDP spoke about, which is typical.

[Skif83]

But Deripaska, Abramovich and others can steer themselves by investing in new production in the country (Russia)

You should write fairy tales ...
We would like to invest long ago!
Yes

their talents primarily in the wars for the heritage of the USSR

they showed not wars, as you write, but in the looting of the USSR’s inheritance!
Would invest in the Crimea - do you seriously think that they are at least not enemies, or maybe even friends?

There is another redistribution of the loot, this redistribution will continue until the loot returns to the treasury of the state.
According to the article, there is a frank spin already on the American braids (!) Under the pretext of sanctions plundered by domestic oligarchs. With the tacit consent of the state ...?

The company is criticized for neglecting social and environmental issues: very severe air pollution in Krasnoyarsk, Bratsk, Sayanogorsk by its enterprises, the destruction of Baikal's ecological systems by its power plants [10] [11]. For example, in Krasnoyarsk on November 3, 2017, at night, sensors recorded an excess of the concentration of toxic substances in the atmosphere of their maximum permissible values ​​by 25 times

For this, all the assets of such "businesses" must be confiscated without any conditions, and the owners in the tundra or Siberia with jigsaws in government cars, at least ...

[bulvas]

Quote: Skif83

they showed not wars, as you write, but in the looting of the USSR’s inheritance!

These were real wars for the division of factories. Read about A. Bykov, remember how A. Swan died

Quote: Skif83

Would invest in the Crimea - you seriously think that they are at least not enemies, and maybe even friends

They are not enemies and not friends. They are big businessmen who have no emotions and they don’t care where to earn money and who should pay taxes, if only it is beneficial

Quote: Skif83

The company is criticized for neglecting social and environmental issues: very severe air pollution in Krasnoyarsk, Bratsk, Sayanogorsk by its enterprises, the destruction of Baikal's ecological systems by its power plants [10] [11]. For example, in Krasnoyarsk on November 3, 2017, at night, sensors recorded an excess of the concentration of toxic substances in the atmosphere of their maximum permissible values ​​by 25 times

This is the legacy of the USSR. Now I don’t know how, I haven’t been in those parts for a long time, but when the factories belonged to the “people” and the officials and party officials ruled everything, there was nothing to breathe there, there was always a dirty cloud and wonderful aroma.

Aluminum was successfully sold in the USA and other regions.
Officials, the leaders of KRAZA (beautiful factory), by those standards, lived no worse than today's oligarchs.

I know firsthand that I personally knew the daughter of one of the leaders of KRAZ.

[_Sergei_]

If it weren’t for Deripaska and the company, Rusall would now be in ruins and the workers would be unemployed and no one would have any questions (especially for Americans and guardians to “share everything” with VO).

[bulvas]

Quote: _Sergey_

If it weren’t for Deripaska and the company, Rusall would now be in ruins and the workers would be unemployed and no one would have any questions (especially for Americans and guardians to “share everything” with VO).

Well this is unlikely.

There were enough people who wanted to grab such a bold piece, and there would still be

At one time, envoys went to Krasnoyarsk for shares of aluminum (and about) enterprises, so many disappeared without a trace.

At that time, it was not Deripaska who taxied ...

[_Sergei_]

We shared the Altai Tractor. Each owner promised that he would raise the plant. In the end, everything was turned into scrap metal. It wasn’t found normal so that I could think in the future. Just to get a momentary benefit ..

[bulvas]

Quote: _Sergey_

We shared the Altai Tractor.

This is not exactly what aluminum

Aluminum has always had markets, both in the country and outside, as well as oil, gas, metals

[tun5t]

One kuynya that from the side of the liberals, that from the regime. And over all this, Putin at the last time, "courage" is not enough. Set a fool, worse than the enemy, he and let the people poison you to hell in old age, not life. Only people spin as they can, do not die. (not fun, true, however)

[kepmor]

if only Putin didn’t get the idea of ​​“saving business captains,” as it was in 2009 ...
here at least the May decrees-2 would survive ...

[forty-eighth]

Already helped Vekselberg. The next day, he immediately transferred everything to the West.

http://www.interfax.ru/business/612485 - это про помощь.
https://ru.reuters.com/article/idRUKCN1IL0AV-ORUB
S is about repaying loans worth 1 billion Swiss francs.

[Ivan Ivanov]

Quote: kepmor

if only Putin didn’t get the idea of ​​“saving business captains”

Not only will it come, this is the first thing the government will do, because business captains are their support

[DEDPIHTO]

Is the West trying to turn Russian billionaires into ordinary pensioners? So before retirement, they still need to be finalized. The Pension Fund of Russia will follow this.
What is this, banter like that? The oligarchs have so much slandered that the concept of “pension” sounds mocking even for them, and
for an ordinary citizen a pension from the PF for the oligarch ... further only mats

[sabakina]

I did not follow, but it seems, before his death, Berezovsky felt the need for money.

[DEDPIHTO]

To experience the need for money between us and the oligarchs is, as the saying goes, two big differences. In difficult years, we don’t know what to pay for and buy food for an apartment, but for those need it means the inability to maintain villas with yachts and clubs. But if that's all sell and buy an apartment .. and grandchildren will remain.

[Vadivak]

Quote: DEPHIHTO

, and for those the need is expressed in the inability to maintain villas with yachts and clubs.

[Mountain shooter]

Russia declared war. But in war and in love, all means are good. Poisoned by the deadly “Newcomer”, they creaked alive and well, and demolished half the city ... Nobody knows who is going somewhere, but they sent the diplomats away, confiscation laws were “turned on”, which they just didn’t do ... The United States was unbelted.

[spirit]

Such quick-witted as Deripaska probably already thought of everything) will control remotely and receive dividends

[Cheshire]

Let him be a son of a dog ... but this is our son of a dog ... and gloating ... that his Americans spread rot ... at least not smart.

[mari.inet]

I agree completely. In addition to being our son of a dog, he is apparently also good at business. It would be bad and weak, the Americans would not care.

[Ross xnumx]

Quote: Cheshire

Let him be a son of a dog ... but this is our son of a dog ...

Well, if he is your son ... But for us, it’s like hair in a soup, like dandruff on a lapel of a jacket, like a snot that got out during a laugh, like a louse crawling along a hairbrush, like a small pebble in a boot, like cat excrement on a washed floor, like pigeon droppings on a cap, like a cow "cake" on the road ...

Quote: Cheshire

and gloating ... that his Americans are spread rot ... at least not smart.

We must be glad that the Americans spread rot on him, we must be glad that the British spread rot against him like that ... They show our idiots their weaknesses, and to us - what insignificance is behind the back of the "sun-fed helm" ...
Something no one dared to insert a vile word into the address of our soldiers who died in Syria. And here, it is necessary - beheaded ... Yes, his hands were cut off by rakers. They showed him a place at ... in a word, "the right place" ...

[B.T.V.]

Quote: ROSS 42

like dandruff on the lapel of a jacket,

...

Macron that Trump was shaking off ?!

[mari.inet]

For whom is "for us"? It would be better to speak only for yourself on such a question.
Not everyone lives on bygone socialism. Many are already completely immersed in state capitalism, which is now practiced. And Deripaska personally didn’t crap on your head, he didn’t climb into a boot with a pebble. He worked and promoted his business successfully. Successful Russian production - even if it is privately owned - is a reason for pride, and not for envy and malice.

[nikolas 83]

It’s good to be happy who doesn’t work in Rusal. Our Rusal plant is the only place of work in the city where there is a stable salary. The plant will be closed, the city will be bent

[Gargantua]

Quote: ROSS 42

They show our idiots their weaknesses, and to us - what insignificance is behind the back of the "sun-fed helm" ...

[Vadivak]

Quote: Cheshire

Let him dog

Don't touch the dog

[Vard]

All this looks like an ordinary raider seizure ... they will change the leadership ... and then again ... and Rusal will be Ameral ...

[Uncle lee]

Quote: Vard

and Rusal will be Ameral ...

So everything goes to this! For this, everything was started.

[nikolas 83]

That is scary.

[Ross xnumx]

Decapitated "Rusal". Where to go to the poor oligarch

What can I say? See if in childhood I read only "Playboy":

[Merold]

Here's what's interesting: Large Russian companies do not work in Crimea for fear of Western sanctions, VTB ceases to lend to Rusal for fear of the same, replaces the entire leadership of Rusal, America ... But for some reason, no one has sovereignty except Russia, "mattresses" someone else and "what they say from Washington, they will do so", somewhere far away again ...

[Snail N9]

And I don’t care .... "Fish" cleanly burned the "mattresses" Deripaska, and there he is dear ....

[nikolas 83]

I don’t understand why the state will not buy back a controlling stake in Rusal? Merikosy will buy up assets, shares and ruin the industry through fake directors. We have an aluminum plant in the region, I work there, so it is city-forming. If it closes the whole city and region the end .Work except where the factory is.

[trophy]

Do they need it? Unfortunately, our "state" has other goals and is much more important than caring for the welfare of citizens. Now, if you sell something, wash the broth, and then tell the citizens that there is no money, you all have eaten, it’s always welcome. When were we promised another wave of privatization there?

[tun5t]

One kuynya that from the side of the liberals, that from the regime. And over all this, Putin at the last time, "courage" is not enough. Set a fool, worse than the enemy, he and let the people poison: to hell to you in old age, not life. Only people spin as they can, do not die. (not fun, true, however)

[Zaurbek]

He has an Agroholding still in the Krasnodar Territory, let it steers there and may well open production in the Crimea.

[tun5t]

What agro to him ?; this pretzel used to cut coupons, it’s not Luzhkov, and he was forced to fully engage in zemlyatse. Break away from the feeder, the bear looks like a fool, worse than the enemy

[Zaurbek]

He is from Ust Labinsk himself and here he belongs to half of the Land with peasants. He has big agribusiness. Earth, pigs ...

[Altona]

Quote: bulvas

On the finished, created before them, they climbed well, showing their talents primarily in the wars for the legacy of the USSR, now you can work profitably, create something new yourself

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I wrote earlier that the Soviet government in Kanash built an aggregate plant, which produced bus axles, the license for which was bought in Germany in the 1970s. Axes with drum brakes - the products are quite conservative, just in the 2000s I had to add an induction ring for the ABS sensor to them. So the plant is slowly dying, the workshop where 130 people worked, 13 works, in total 2500 people worked, now less than 400. The assembly of axles was taken by Nizhny, that is, Pavlovo. At the factory, the designer is assembled and sent there. Naturally, a set of spare parts costs less than a finished axle. We developed some of the axles ourselves; trailed axles we developed in the early 2000s. Deripaska did not invest anything in this, he only uses it. And these are our projects, projects of a branch institute, which our trailer factory bought, and then handed over to KAAZ for production. That's it, gentlemen, comrades. These are our business missors of foreign intellectual and other property. They dig everything that is possible and appropriate.
PS Deripaska acquired the plant in 2001, having bought back shares from holders of shares, the plant’s staff mainly.

[Merold]

Quote: Altona

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I wrote earlier that the Soviet government in Kanash built an aggregate plant, which produced bus axles, the license for which was bought in Germany in the 1970s ..

In the GDR, you probably wanted to say? And the license for which axis they bought for Liazov and PAZov?

So the plant is slowly dying, the workshop where 130 people worked, 13 works, a total of 2500 people worked, now less than 400

I don’t want to pour salt over your wounds, but forgive me for letting you produce such “high-tech” and competitive products?

[sdc_alex]

Quote: Altona

Deripaska acquired the plant in 2001 by purchasing shares from holders of shares, the plant’s staff mainly.

Of course a hoax? bought back ????
Deceived all and brazenly redeemed?
At the enterprise I work for, there are also "figures" who believe that the plant should not work for production and profit, but for people who "work" at it Do you support this view too?

[Merold]

Quote: sdc_alex

Quote: Altona

Deripaska acquired the plant in 2001 by purchasing shares from holders of shares, the plant’s staff mainly.

Of course a hoax? bought back ????
Deceived all and brazenly redeemed?
At the enterprise I work for, there are also "figures" who believe that the plant should not work for production and profit, but for people who "work" at it Do you support this view too?

Great comment! Of course, the overwhelming majority of people in Russia believe that it is necessary to produce products for the sake of producing products and ensuring employment of people. The fact that no one needs this product, its cost is monstrous and the quality is lower than the baseboard, no one cares.
On this subject there is an excellent film by the Czech director Peter Horka "The Russian job" (Russian work) about the work of Bu Anderson at AvtoVAZ. It’s just Clash of civilizations in all its glory. If you have not seen, be sure to look.

[sdc_alex]

In the end, what point of view do you support?
- produce for the sake of employment of people ????
- or produce products for profit by the enterprise ???

[Merold]

Quote: sdc_alex

In the end, what point of view do you support?
- produce for the sake of employment of people ????
- or produce products for profit by the enterprise ???

Of course, I am in favor of becoming a leader in pig iron production again. Build a bunch of factories, provide a bunch of people with work, and then bury this cast iron in ravines.

[Altona]

Quote: Merold

In the GDR, you probably wanted to say? And the license for which axis they bought for Liazov and PAZov?

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Both for grooves and for LIAZs. They bought in Germany, not in the GDR. Because the products were sent to Likino and Pavlovo. The rear axle with the gearbox was sent to Likino. Now I do not know. My whole family worked there and I worked there for six months as a technologist, but in school practice all summer.

[Merold]

Quote: Altona

Quote: Merold

In the GDR, you probably wanted to say? And the license for which axis they bought for Liazov and PAZov?

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Both for grooves and for LIAZs. They bought in Germany, not in the GDR. Because the products were sent to Likino and Pavlovo. The rear axle with the gearbox was sent to Likino. Now I do not know. My whole family worked there and I worked there for six months as a technologist, but in school practice all summer.

Can I ask for at least some proof? For fun.

[Merold]

[quote = Merold]
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Both for grooves and for LIAZs. They bought in Germany, not in the GDR. Because the products were sent to Likino and Pavlovo. The rear axle with the gearbox was sent to Likino. Now I do not know. My whole family worked there and I worked there for six months as a technologist, but in school practice all summer. [/ Quote]
Can I ask for at least some proof? For the sake of interest. [/ Quote]
Clear.

[sdc_alex]

Quote: Altona

Because the products were sent to Likino and Pavlovo. The rear axle with the gearbox was sent to Likino.

And what is the logic of collecting buses in Likino and Pavlovo, and the bridges and axles for them beyond 770 and 350 km, respectively ?? What would people in Kanash have something to do?

[vladimirvn]

He worked at an enterprise owned by Deripaska. The working conditions are excellent, but it was necessary to dig in seriously. The salary is slightly higher than the regional average.

[nikolas 83]

As a result, what kind of solution is there? Revolution? Nationalization of enterprises, property of oligarchs.

[Zaurbek]

Moreover, either a free transfer or a buyback at the residual value of the shares. But the GAZ group is now developing quite well for itself.

[sdc_alex]

Quote: nikolas 83

Nationalization of enterprises, property of oligarchs.

Well, yes, that’s what our elderly communists think about ....
Nationalize ... and give everything to the PEOPLE!

[Zaurbek]

No, under the management and loans of the state and profits to the state ...

[sdc_alex]

Those. change the oligarch at the head of the company to an official?

[Zaurbek]

There may be different options .... I can leave it on a salary ... Can leave its management ..

[Zaurbek]

It may start offshore gas production and processing in the Crimea. Logistics is excellent.

[_Sergei_]

If he is trampled in the Crimea, then here in VO they will hear that again he stole something from someone and it is urgent to divide it.

[Zaurbek]

He is a pretty business man. Only I will be glad for him.

[_Sergei_]

Whatever business he was, and if in one place the business was beaten off, then in another it would not be desirable to establish.

[Zaurbek]

The Russian imperialism of the Russian Federation is not responsible.

[kakvastam]

If the states achieved exactly this, it turns out that they won by putting their little man at the head?

[vladimirvn]

Aluminum production in the Russian Federation in April grew by 36%.

[Bakht]

This is called sovereignty ... The US Department of State is changing the heads of Russian companies.
Who is Philip Malfey? A citizen of Great Britain or the USA ?. There is only information that he is an "independent director." That is not from Russia.

[kakvastam]

I remember that Deripaska told how they put Mr. Putin as president.

So who is our elder now?

[Altona]

Quote: Merold

I don’t want to pour salt over your wounds, but forgive me for letting you produce such “high-tech” and competitive products?

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What do you want from me? You presented one incomprehensible axis on a pallet. The nomenclature of the axles is quite wide. On the other hand, you also know that you need to issue such and such an axis as you need equipment. Do you want to release something more high-tech? Invest in equipment, in development. Who will do this? And to take the philistine position "what did you want?" everyone can. I will not give proofs to you, look for yourself, there is an official site of the plant and other sources, I myself do not ask any proofs from anyone.
PS Something you put the wrong photo.

[Merold]

Quote: Altona

Quote: Merold

I don’t want to pour salt over your wounds, but forgive me for letting you produce such “high-tech” and competitive products?

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You presented one incomprehensible axis on a pallet.
PS Something you put the wrong photo.

Incomprehensible axis and wrong photo?

Quote: Altona

I will not give proofs to you, look for yourself

I knew this beforehand.

[Rostislav]

Everything in this world is natural. First they robbed the country, now they rob them. There is no desire to cry during the play "A thief stole a club from a thief".

[kind]

Deripaska, Deripaska your whole business is stolen
Don’t be afraid of Deripaska, soon you will be kindly
The people will give you money
Your aluminum will return

[Zomanus]

Flees people from companies.
The main thing is that aluminum would not go up in price on LMEs.
And then the door hardware will definitely become gold.

[Comrade Kim]

No irony. I sympathize with our "consanguineous" compatriots.
Abramovich was refused in England. He cannot get a residence permit there. Now bought a villa in Israel. Well, at least they would accept it, they promised problems as there would be no England. His intuition is good, he sensed something bad, the sticky chill on his back is haunting.
The Americans ridiculed Deripaska, knocked the steering wheel out of his hands - now it (or rather, the national giant of the industrial industry) is controlled by others - specially approved people.
And to top it off, a sneaky blow from the head of the second bank in Russia. The head of VTB repented and disowned RusAl on CBC (an American television company).
America, through our bankers, is finishing off the industrial giant. And our bureaucrats quietly merge the law on counter-sanctions.
Outright lobbying causes disgust.
And most recently, lawmakers again zeroed duties on Boing and Airbus.
Apparently they will not lift them from their knees, or rather they will not pull out the scraps of the Soviet aircraft industry from guteus. But at the peak of production during the Soviet era, 38% of the world's civil aviation flew on our airplanes.

[Weyland]

Given how we decided to solve such problems in the dashing 90s, a natural question arises: does Deripaska and Abramovich really have not enough money to hire a killer for Donald’s friend? There was already a billionaire president in Pin.do.stan, who decided not to reckon with other specific boys. In Dallas, these pernicious delusions (along with brains) were knocked out of his head

[123456789]

Quote: PFT

and now "BAD" has come

- When will it be “GOOD”?
- A "GOOD" was already

[123456789]

Quote: _Sergey_

We shared the Altai Tractor

A similar case with the Volgograd tractor ...
You don’t need as many tractors in a country that occupies 1/7 of the land.

[Freedom in 0]

I wrote an article about the future fate of the CIS oligarchy.
Since then, just watching events and all. Writing a second time about it more is not interesting.
These fat pigs weren’t allowed to pick up and take out to make them squeal happily. Uncle will not cut them all at once, so that samples of beautiful life are available. But slowly the butcher shop will do its job.

Either the sanctions or the next banker were fried, then the whole offshore was obliged to disclose information on deposits, then some other inventions. For the whole thing with offshore companies, oligarchs, etc., was invented by the "Western uncle" not in order to be good for him, but to be good for his uncle himself, and is simply a form of wiring.

In principle, this is understood both in the Russian Federation and in Ukraine. If you look closely - then the Zaputins, the clan that promoted the powder, constantly grab another hog and fry it. Examples of the sea. Only here the Western guys do it on a much more tangible scale.

In the end, I think they will cut everyone. It's a question of time. The pigs, of course, will screech in the media accessible to them that they say this is all for a short while, unfair, dishonest and, in general, the intrigues of the West. But who cares. As long as there are grandmothers, screech hell. Grandmas are over - welcome to Berezovsky’s club.

[gromoboj]

That's how the bourgeoisie pressed the company already and the import manager.

[Sergey ippon]

who are these people?
Yes, those who robbed the population of the USSR, having appropriated their resources!
Yes, and creating laws to allow this to be done ..
Yes, even at the pitchfork of their joy to the people only)