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Poroshenko selected from the marines of Ukraine black berets

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Poroshenko officially selected the black berets from the Ukrainian marines. At the same time, the President of Ukraine, the Supreme Commander in combination, announced that the Marine Day was postponed from November 16 to today’s May 23. On this day, according to the interpretation of Kiev historians Maidan, "100 years ago, the Marines of Ukraine was created."


In textbooks on stories of the Ukrainian Armed Forces, it is claimed that the “Ukrainian Marines” was created by Hetman Skoropadsky in 1918 year. It is stated that we are talking about three shelves stationed at that time in Kherson, Nikolaev and Odessa.

This is the hetman who created the government supported by the occupying German troops. Does this mean that today Poroshenko openly associates the very creation of the so-called "Ukrainian marines" with the assistance provided by the German occupiers?

Poroshenko also during the ceremony of "dressing up" Ukrainian marines announced that they "bravely entered into confrontation with the aggressor." And during the “repainting” of the berets for some reason I decided to priplesti a few words about the “deportation of the Crimean Tatars”.

In addition to the very date of the celebration of the Marine Corps, Poroshenko officially changed the traditional black berets to beats "navy blue." Now in Ukraine they said that the marines were turned into "former airborne troops".

Poroshenko selected from the marines of Ukraine black berets


Recall that the President of Ukraine also changed the name and version of the military uniform for those who were previously called Ukrainian paratroopers. And Poroshenko suffered the Day of the border guard on April 30.

The plan for trying to separate the country from the glorious military traditions carries out regularly.
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  1. maxim947
    maxim947 23 May 2018 16: 26
    +4
    Something he went through today today ... Too many not clear decisions))
    1. thrush
      thrush 23 May 2018 16: 27
      +29
      Quote: maxim947
      Something he went through today ...


      I still do not have time to be surprised at your naivety ... Shlomael first did something right ... nothing to disgrace black takes
      1. Krasnoyarsk
        Krasnoyarsk 23 May 2018 17: 36
        +1
        Quote: thrush
        Quote: maxim947
        Something he went through today ...


        I still do not have time to be surprised at your naivety ... Shlomael first did something right ... nothing to disgrace black takes

        With language removed.
        1. Svarog51
          Svarog51 23 May 2018 20: 37
          +1
          Tongue removed

          I have a thought that thrush the black, and this suggests that he takes the Marines dear to him. The brave singer protects his habitat. Decent behavior. good
      2. Nikolaevich I
        Nikolaevich I 24 May 2018 01: 02
        +4
        Quote: thrush
        nothing to shame black beret


        And I thought about it as soon as I read about the "replacement of berets" ... as well as the replacement of berets of the "paratroopers" ....
    2. Monos
      Monos 23 May 2018 16: 29
      +22
      Poroshenko officially exchanged traditional black berets for berets "the color of the sea wave."

      There is another suggestion
      1. A good one
        A good one 23 May 2018 16: 36
        +6
        Cockade, on it will be poorly distinguishable, and nothing fashioned and cheerful colors. smile
      2. sabakina
        sabakina 23 May 2018 16: 40
        +14
        Victor! If before the Marines were called "black death", now they will call "blue death". laughing
        1. Monos
          Monos 23 May 2018 16: 43
          +6
          laughing Hello, Glory! hi
          Quote: sabakina
          If before the Marines were called "black death", now they will call "blue death".

          Only in Ukraine! I always knew you were a jerk. laughing
          1. sabakina
            sabakina 23 May 2018 17: 08
            +5
            So I'm talking about what! Our then beret colors are in place! I don’t know about the Marines, I know about the airborne ....
            1. vlad66
              vlad66 23 May 2018 17: 30
              +7
              Quote: sabakina
              I don’t know about the Marines, I know about the airborne ....

              Please Colleagues! drinks hi
              And these, well, all spit, pooh on them, again Petrusha with perepoyu. soldier
            2. Monos
              Monos 23 May 2018 17: 56
              +6
              This one, for example. Listen
              1. vovanpain
                vovanpain 23 May 2018 18: 07
                +5
                Quote: sabakina
                Our then beret colors are in place!

                It is Glory! drinks
                Quote: Monos
                This one, for example. Listen

                Victor, you can and this, dedicated to the Kerch landing.
                drinks hi
                1. Monos
                  Monos 23 May 2018 18: 18
                  +3
                  Kind evening, Volodya! hi drinks
                  Quote: vovanpain
                  Victor, can this one be dedicated to the Kerch landing?

                  As a child, I dreamed of serving in the Marine Corps. But it did not work out ...
                2. thrush
                  thrush 23 May 2018 18: 19
                  +18
                  Quote: vovanpain

                  Victor, you can and this, dedicated to the Kerch landing.


                  I wildly apologize but Vysotsky did dedicate this song to the Evpatoria landing ...

                  although in principle there is no difference oh wei .. how many of these landings were.

                  Eltigen, Feodossiysk, Kerch. Novorossiysk, Yevpatoria .. but they liberated Sevastopol in 44 without sea landing ..

                  I like this one.
                  1. vovanpain
                    vovanpain 23 May 2018 18: 41
                    +3
                    Quote: thrush
                    I wildly apologize but Vysotsky did dedicate this song to the Evpatoria landing ...
                    although in principle there is no difference oh wei .. how many of these landings were

                    Iskander, I’m sorry, of course, the Evpatoria landing and you’re right
                    Quote: thrush
                    how many of these landings were.
                    Eltigen, Feodossiysk, Kerch. Novorossiysk, Evpatoria ..
                    Regards Colleague! Thanks for the song.
                    hi hi
                    Quote: Monos
                    Kind evening, Volodya! hi drinks
                    Quote: vovanpain
                    Victor, can this one be dedicated to the Kerch landing?

                    As a child, I dreamed of serving in the Marine Corps. But it did not work out ...

                    Good Evening Vitya! drinks Pull to each his own burden. drinks hi
          2. cost
            cost 23 May 2018 18: 18
            +2
            Poroshenko took black berets from the Marines and in return gave them blue

            All the same, he’s a fig komersant - the alleged cut so-so, it was necessary to give them Roshenov’s chocolate hares in return for black berets.
            or even introduce state awards in Ukraine - chocolate medals. And people are pleased to do and not to forget themselves. This will be a real commercial approach
        2. reservist
          reservist 23 May 2018 18: 01
          +2
          So the name "black death" among the Germans earned the Soviet Marines
          And the army of P. Skoropadsky seems to have not earned any name at all (well, maybe the nickname is what the Petliurites had when they drove them from Kiev), as Skoropadsky became the hetman with the support of the Germans, and his power ended as soon as the Germans left Ukraine.
          from the biography of the hetman:
          April 29, 1918 in Kiev at the All-Ukrainian Congress of farmers (landowners and large peasant owners), taking advantage of the protracted crisis of the Central Council of the UPR and relying on the support of the German occupation forces and officer circles of the former Russian army, prosperous Ukrainian peasantry and Cossacks, Skoropadsky was proclaimed hetman of Ukraine.
          After the defeat of Germany in the First World War in November 1918, German troops began to leave the territories occupied as a result of the Brest Peace. Then the uprising of the Ukrainian Sich Riflemen began. Having lost German support after a short civil war, the Skoropadsky regime collapsed. In mid-December 1918, Kiev was taken by the troops of the UNR Directory.
          December 14, 1918 Skoropadsky renounced power and secretly left Ukraine, leaving for Berlin. He lived in Germany as a private person at the address Berlin-Wannsee, Alzenstrasse, 17. The German authorities assigned him a pension of 10 thousand marks a year.

          Emperor Wilhelm II and Getman Skoropadsky in August 1918
        3. 210ox
          210ox 23 May 2018 18: 10
          0
          Vyacheslav hi I still don’t see vests on them. Well, thank God. Let them wear the uniform of the Bundeswehr ..
          Quote: sabakina
          Victor! If before the Marines were called "black death", now they will call "blue death". laughing
      3. Nikolai Grek
        Nikolai Grek 23 May 2018 18: 17
        +5
        Quote: Monos
        Poroshenko officially exchanged traditional black berets for berets "the color of the sea wave."

        There is another suggestion

        Marines make a demarche due to a change in beret color - media

        https://korrespondent.net/ukraine/3973717-morpekh
        y-ustroyly-demarsh-yz-za-smeny-tsveta-bereta-smy

        wassat wassat wassat
      4. mig29mks
        mig29mks 23 May 2018 18: 23
        +1
        I also thought about such a new take of the Ukrainian Marines))))
      5. dropout
        dropout 23 May 2018 22: 35
        0
        And what color will the diapers be? Not yet approved? Not good, not any concern for the soldiers. Spilled Petyunya, and maybe between the first and second just once.
    3. impostor
      impostor 23 May 2018 16: 55
      +3
      Something he went through today ...

      On the contrary - there is a catch-up, I didn’t think of curling that the necromancers created Neptune himself, proof of which is pitchfork on cockades.
      1. reservist
        reservist 23 May 2018 19: 48
        +1
        so really was the decree of Hetman Skoropadsky of May 23, 1918, "On the Beginning of the Formation of a Marine Corps Brigade ...".
        but here is the presence of 3 squadrons in the brigade marine cavalry suggests that these were still parts of the coast guard
      2. Avis-bis
        Avis-bis 23 May 2018 20: 52
        +1
        Quote: impostor
        I didn’t think that Ukromorpehov himself created Neptune,

        In the light of all the jokes on the dill, it turns out that they also created Neptune.
  2. Lyutoyar R.
    Lyutoyar R. 23 May 2018 16: 28
    +5
    I support this drunk. There is nothing for the fascists to dishonor the glorious form.
    1. NEXUS
      NEXUS 23 May 2018 16: 44
      +4
      Quote: Lyutoyar R.
      Poroshenko officially took the black berets from the Ukrainian marines.

      In order to be called the Marine Corps, you need a fleet ... but excuse me, does Ukraine have a navy?
      1. ltc35
        ltc35 23 May 2018 16: 57
        +1
        So they are on the shore. From pebble to pebble will be landing!
      2. thrush
        thrush 23 May 2018 17: 03
        +17
        Quote: NEXUS
        In order to be called the Marine Corps, you need a fleet ... but excuse me, does Ukraine have a navy?


        is .. at the parking lot ... in Sevastopol ..
      3. freddyk
        freddyk 23 May 2018 17: 04
        +1
        Quote: NEXUS
        In order to be called the Marine Corps, you need a fleet ... but excuse me, does Ukraine have a navy?


        Well, yes, you need a fleet for the Marine Corps, and an air fleet for the Airborne Forces. What about Petyune, if he has neither ships, nor airplanes? And I want to be a Great Power.
      4. Avis-bis
        Avis-bis 23 May 2018 20: 53
        0
        Quote: NEXUS

        In order to be called the Marine Corps, you need a fleet ... but excuse me, does Ukraine have a navy?

        Revive the production of "gulls."
        1. NEXUS
          NEXUS 23 May 2018 20: 59
          +1
          Quote: Avis-bis
          Revive the production of "gulls"

          The word REVIVAL and Ukraine cannot stand in one sentence at all.
          1. Avis-bis
            Avis-bis 23 May 2018 21: 01
            0
            Quote: NEXUS

            The word REVIVAL and Ukraine cannot stand in one sentence at all.

            It’s “yes”, but even the skakuas can master it. :)
            1. NEXUS
              NEXUS 23 May 2018 21: 03
              +1
              Quote: Avis-bis
              It’s “yes”, but even the skakuas can master it. :)

              Master the very word ... master, skpi ... steal and sell. That is, the Chubais principle.
  3. Ovsen
    Ovsen 23 May 2018 16: 29
    +8
    Now Ukraine has announced that the Marine Corps has been turned into "former Airborne Forces."

    So in the warehouses, then probably the old stocks remained. Do not waste good.
    And even today Ledra carries ......... It would be necessary to see the lunar phases, in which the aggravation of the idiots.
    1. avt
      avt 23 May 2018 18: 00
      +1
      Quote: Lamb
      So in the warehouses, then probably the old stocks remained. Do not waste good

      Yeah - he took it from the landing, he gave it to the marines. As the squirrel suggested.
      1. Ovsen
        Ovsen 23 May 2018 18: 47
        +8
        Quote: avt
        taken away from the landing, gave the marines

        !!!!! Rotation ...... !!!!
      2. NEXUS
        NEXUS 23 May 2018 20: 59
        +1
        Quote: avt
        As the squirrel suggested.

        There is no longer a squirrel, but a beaver the size of an elephant.
  4. Cheshire
    Cheshire 23 May 2018 16: 31
    +1
    They need yellow berets ... green peas ... like scrambled eggs and peas.
  5. Alex-a832
    Alex-a832 23 May 2018 16: 34
    0
    It is time for Ukraine to be included in the Guinness Book of Records by an unprecedented number of traitors and scumbags among the "national heroes."
  6. ANCIENT
    ANCIENT 23 May 2018 16: 35
    0
    But in general, he did the right thing — his berets do not deserve his organized crime group “army of ukroiny”! !!
  7. oldzek
    oldzek 23 May 2018 16: 41
    0
    come on you! whatever the child would be amused, if only .... (add what you need yourself)
    1. vlad66
      vlad66 23 May 2018 17: 35
      0
      Quote: oldzek
      come on you! whatever the child would be amused, if only .... (add what you need yourself)

      Not a shit. laughing
  8. cariperpaint
    cariperpaint 23 May 2018 16: 50
    +1
    I do not understand this. They don’t have dynasties of officers ... Traditions are not chatter, they’ve been absorbing from childhood ... A nightmare ...
  9. Doliva63
    Doliva63 23 May 2018 16: 57
    +4
    "Ukraine said that the Marine Corps turned into" former Airborne Forces "
    There they have my former colleague Olezha J. instructs, here, probably glad.
    In general, it’s funny. Like in a joke - a country with an unpredictable story laughing
    1. ltc35
      ltc35 23 May 2018 17: 04
      +2
      And for some reason my former colleagues are silent and do not comment on anything. I get the impression that everyone there approves of this circus ...
      1. Doliva63
        Doliva63 23 May 2018 18: 04
        +5
        Quote: ltc35
        And for some reason my former colleagues are silent and do not comment on anything. I get the impression that everyone there approves of this circus ...

        Maybe it depends on the year of manufacture? My 89th, like, QUOQUE. His classmate, also our colleague, was the military attache in the Russian Federation for the last time, laughed at what was happening, and invited him to Kiev for a visit. I myself have a bunch of classmates from there, pensioners already, accept everything as we are their 90s, like, and we will survive it.
  10. Reserve officer
    Reserve officer 23 May 2018 17: 01
    +2
    "... In the history textbooks of the Armed Forces of Ukraine it is stated that" the Ukrainian Marines "was created by the hetman Skoropadsky in 1918 year ...

    Somehow small on a historical scale. You need to look deeper into history, Petya. Have you completely forgotten about the ancient diggers of the Black Sea? But who guarded them all so as not to scatter?
    1. thrush
      thrush 23 May 2018 17: 18
      +16
      Quote: Stock Officer
      "... In the history textbooks of the Armed Forces of Ukraine it is stated that" the Ukrainian Marines "was created by the hetman Skoropadsky in 1918 year ...

      Somehow small on a historical scale. You need to look deeper into history, Petya. Have you completely forgotten about the ancient diggers of the Black Sea? But who guarded them all so as not to scatter?


      Chu. the same mine has something to add .. I know for myself, and you think what you want .. .. the great Ukrainian poet AS Pushkin. mentions them in his work about the lad Ruslan and the garn, the divine Lyudmila ..


      There will come waves about dawn
      On the shore is sandy and empty,
      And thirty fine heroes
      The dark out of the waters are clear,
      And with them the uncle of their sea
    2. PSih2097
      PSih2097 23 May 2018 21: 04
      +1
      Quote: Reserve officer
      "... In the history textbooks of the Armed Forces of Ukraine it is stated that" the Ukrainian Marines "was created by the hetman Skoropadsky in 1918 year ...

      Actually, Peter 1 throughout the Russian Empire ...
      (16) On November 27, 1705, Peter I issued a Decree on the formation of the first Russian “regiment of naval soldiers” to serve on the boarding and landing ships of sailing and rowing fleets, in the guard service of admiralties and coastal institutions of the Russian fleet.

      The birth of the marine corps in Russia began as early as 1698, when a crew of archers, along with sailors and gunners, was included in the crew of the Orel ship, whose task was to “capture enemy ships in boarding combat”. The team received their baptism of fire in a battle with the Swedes.
      Baptism of fire, a new kind of army for Russia, was received in the Battle of Gangut (1714) and the Northern War, where it was actively involved in naval battles and landings. Troops of infantry participated in the Russian-Turkish war, in the capture of Navarin and Beirut, during the war with France they fought in the squadron of Admiral Ushakov, actively participated in the Patriotic War of 1812. In all battles, they showed courage and stamina.
      During the time of Peter I, a system of Russian hand-to-hand combat was created, which the infantrymen effectively used in battles. She absorbed all the most advanced and effective from national experience, as well as western and eastern systems.
      Organizationally, the Marine Corps took shape in 1939 as a branch of the Navy. During the Great Patriotic War, infantry took part in the defense of Moscow, Murmansk, Odessa, Sevastopol, Tallinn, Leningrad. Several brigades of infantrymen as part of land fronts reached Berlin, in August 1945 they acted against the Japanese in the Kuril Islands and Sakhalin. For their heroism, dozens of units were awarded the guard ranks, more than 100 foot soldiers - the title of Hero of the Soviet Union.
      Modern marines are a branch of the Navy specially prepared for combat operations as part of amphibious assault forces, for the defense of important coastal areas, and naval bases. They are part of all fleets of Russia. The motto of the marines is “Where we are - there is victory!”.
      Since 1996, in accordance with the order of the Commander-in-Chief of the Russian Navy, November 27 is celebrated as the Day of the Russian Marines.
      1. Sewer krainiy
        Sewer krainiy 24 May 2018 01: 16
        0
        Actually, Peter 1 throughout the Russian Empire ...
        (16) On November 27, 1705, Peter I issued a Decree on the formation of the first Russian “regiment of naval soldiers” to serve on the boarding and landing ships of sailing and rowing fleets, in the guard service of admiralties and coastal institutions of the Russian fleet.

        So it was created by this Decree in Grodno, on the territory of modern Belarus. And the marines of Russia and Belarus are found here ... mark this date. There are no Marines of Grodno on the forum ???
  11. RUSS
    RUSS 23 May 2018 17: 07
    0
    The right decision, a new country, a new army, new symbols.
    We also changed symbolism in the armed forces and that no one is outraged.
  12. Grandfather Makar
    Grandfather Makar 23 May 2018 17: 14
    +2
    There has been no army and navy in Ukraine for a long time .. So gangs of Natsiks and headquarters with pot-bellied generals and admirals subordinate to the State Department! So let Waltzman at least endure renames (at least in the IDF)))) Svidvomo already nothing and no one will save.!
    1. thrush
      thrush 23 May 2018 17: 25
      +18
      Quote: Ded-Makar
      (at least in the IDF)))) Svidvidomo is nothing and no one will save.!


      Well, what do you allow yourself .. you still want to hurt comparing the glorious dinghy and a bunch of bendyuzhnikov with the import ..
      1. TRex
        TRex 23 May 2018 19: 16
        +1
        About the "bindyuzhnikov with the import" ...
        I myself had some relation to the KChF, so I want to clarify the Ukrainian "marines" ... When dividing the Black Sea Fleet, which included only one unit - 810 OBRMP, Ukraine got nothing but a few landing ships. So they had to form their naval landing forces from scratch - by including the combat units of the ground forces (possibly from the hastily created coastal defense division created before the collapse of the USSR), deployed in coastal cities.
        So, in the glorious town of FEODOSIA, a self-proclaimed "Marine Corps" appeared, slabbed from a mechanized battalion - a separate battalion of the Marine Corps of the Ukrainian Navy. In total, three or four of them were created.
        During the events of the Crimean spring, part of the personnel passed under Russian banners, the other part remained in the position, took up defense and waited for the decision of Kiev ... But there was no decision. Negotiations Deputy. the battalion commander with the then minister (Admiral Tenyukh) was even shown on television (who remembers) ... So, this Tenyukh publicly stated when he was accused of inaction: "What the hell is the Marine Corps ??? This is a former mechanized battalion!"
        It ended like this - a convoy was formed from the remnants of the battalion on an armored personnel carrier, which, under the flag of the Navy, rushed to a "breakthrough" in the direction of Dzhankoy. Two or three cars managed to get out of the checkpoint, with flags, tridents ... well, as it should be, when the heroes go on a feat. The local militia and Cossacks at one stroke blocked the exit with several buses. The erupted heroes rocked around the city and asked to go back closer to the galley.
        Then again negotiations, expectations, etc. One night, when the "polite people" were tired of this hemorrhoids, a couple of turntables arrived, and with their noise support, a bloodless operation was carried out to capture part. A little hand-to-hand fighting, a little scuffle and the export of heroes to their historical homeland, without flags, weapons and other symbols. It was just that they were taken to the KAMAZ to the border and released in peace.
        Today, this "marine corps" iron the Donbass. I don’t know if they remember Theodosia and the local population ... If they remember, I see how they would like to return there to burn these damned buses that did not allow them to “make a heroic breakthrough”.
        1. thrush
          thrush 23 May 2018 21: 53
          +16
          Quote: TRex
          During the division of the Black Sea Fleet, which included only one unit - 810 OBrMP


          azohen wei .. bro .. 126 Dibo. you still didn’t mention in the squad .. maybe we crossed paths at that time .. I came in 93, I remember this period when the sailors part with the Russian part and the Ukrainian oath was ..
          1. TRex
            TRex 24 May 2018 07: 55
            +1
            It was a time of troubles ... After the partition, the Russians could easily end up in Ukrainian units and vice versa. The mess is utter. Of the graduates of the former ChVVMU and SVVMIU, Ukraine had a whole officer battalion - there was simply nowhere to put the lieutenants.
      2. PSih2097
        PSih2097 23 May 2018 21: 10
        +1
        Quote: thrush
        a bunch of bendyuzhnikov with the import ..

        no, everything is much worse there (even the zapadents themselves (and I also have such comrades - in almost all regions of western Ukraine - about 10 - 20 - 50 people each) ask them not to be compared with a crowd of thugs and PSs from the central regions ), do not offend the binders by comparing them to this ... a nasty smelling and lying bunch ... I beg you.
  13. hhhhhhh
    hhhhhhh 23 May 2018 17: 26
    +3
    This is the right decision. Marines from punishers must be distinguished. Instead of vests, blue shirts still need to be issued.
  14. Miller
    Miller 23 May 2018 17: 58
    0
    I propose that gunpowder be dressed in green berets in berets of the color of "childhood surprise." Such green-yellow speckled prothreys.
  15. seeker
    seeker 23 May 2018 18: 09
    +2
    Stop mocking you. In Ukraine, the same people live like you and I, and just like a bunch of oligarchs rob and rape, so that in our country and in Ukraine children have ceased to be born.

    Yes, there are 5% of the Pro-Bandera scumbags there, there are another 5% of those who sympathize - this is, as always, the corrupt press and the same political analysts.

    As practice shows, 5-10% of the active population can determine the life of the country as a whole, while the remaining 90% of the population is in the stall.

    Only provocateurs and enemies of the Russian people can abusively speak about Ukraine and its stoned by enemy propaganda with our full connivance - citizens, or simply fools who do not know history. Now there, some Russians are killing other Russians, and here you are kidding, you're having fun.
    1. thrush
      thrush 23 May 2018 18: 48
      +18
      Quote: Seeker
      Stop mocking you. In Ukraine, the same people live like you and I, and just like a bunch of oligarchs rob and rape, so that in our country and in Ukraine children have ceased to be born.

      Yes, there are 5% of the Pro-Bandera scumbags there, there are another 5% of those who sympathize - this is, as always, the corrupt press and the same political analysts.

      As practice shows, 5-10% of the active population can determine the life of the country as a whole, while the remaining 90% of the population is in the stall.

      Only provocateurs and enemies of the Russian people can abusively speak about Ukraine and its stoned by enemy propaganda with our full connivance - citizens, or simply fools who do not know history. Now there, some Russians are killing other Russians, and here you are kidding, you're having fun.


      azohan wei, and where were you when you were 14 years old when, as you say, 90 percent dressed in pots, they rolled a barrel at us .. well, straightforward poor people lace panties in Europe for 30 shekels seemed cheaper. in the 14th year they took power, so let them take it now and do not wait for Russian frosts to restore order in themselves.
    2. A good one
      A good one 23 May 2018 19: 03
      +6
      We are not having fun, we are sad, but you descended from another planet, touchingly mentioned the tops, and deliberately kept silent about the roots. So now think, who are you? And with whom are you? hi
  16. Normal ok
    Normal ok 23 May 2018 18: 38
    0
    This is the hetman who created the government supported by the occupying German troops. Does this mean that today Poroshenko openly associates the very creation of the so-called "Ukrainian marines" with the assistance provided by the German occupiers?

    These are the very Germans — the best friends of Lenin. And, this is the very occupation that became possible precisely thanks to the Bolsheviks.
  17. vit357
    vit357 23 May 2018 18: 45
    0
    Another shroud of vukruini and Laughter to cottage cheese!) Amen.
  18. APASUS
    APASUS 23 May 2018 18: 54
    +2
    It is clear that now Margelov, as commander of the Airborne Troops or Peter I, by whose decree the first naval regiment was not held in high esteem in Ukraine. But then on what do they want to educate the military personnel, on whose exploits, the Ukrainian Sich Riflemen? So these military units in the army of the Austro-Hungarian Empire were formed. Not for Ukraine they shed blood
    1. reservist
      reservist 24 May 2018 12: 55
      0
      It seems that the example of Hetman Skoropadsky (former general of the imperial army) who received a pension from William II
  19. vic02
    vic02 23 May 2018 18: 55
    +1
    Hetman Skoropadsky is the one who took the oath in the circus.
    1. reservist
      reservist 24 May 2018 12: 59
      0
      as you call a yacht, so it will sail ...
  20. Dedall
    Dedall 23 May 2018 19: 56
    +1
    And I’m in my military unit, which is not the Airborne Forces, but is part of the Air Forces, all the time cursing when I see blue berets. What a bad person they introduced 2 years ago. A purely blue or gray could not enter? And I’m also wondering why I wasn’t outraged from the “landing”? Likely it was, but no one wrote, but then you are sucking the Ukrainian army from all sides.
  21. ibn.shamai
    ibn.shamai 23 May 2018 20: 26
    0
    Petya scoffs at his “army”. laughing
  22. rocket757
    rocket757 23 May 2018 21: 00
    0
    What servants, such and berets, wanting to trash the memory of their ancestors, tfu.
  23. sgr291158
    sgr291158 24 May 2018 05: 55
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    Something to Petka, the delusional period dragged on. Looks like a long time since the glass does not come off.
  24. Metallurg_2
    Metallurg_2 24 May 2018 06: 59
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    Well, that’s it: if now he also establishes a local church, he will definitely stay for a second term!
  25. jncnfdybr
    jncnfdybr 24 May 2018 12: 01
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    It seems not Friday.)))