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The tank, which Berlin will frighten Moscow

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The new confrontation in Europe, caused by the aggressive actions of the United States, caught most of the NATO countries by surprise. During the relative lull that followed the collapse of the socialist camp and the collapse of the USSR, the European members of the alliance not only drastically reduced military budgets, but also fairly reduced their arsenals. And often the weapons were not conserved in long-term storage warehouses, but simply destroyed. Land and warehouse space in Europe is expensive. For example, at the beginning of 2000, the Bundeswehr scrapped several hundred thousand G-3 rifles, which had been decommissioned in the 1997 year, for which they could not find buyers in the third world countries.




But rifles are the tenth thing. It became clear that NATO needed enough armored vehicles to counter the “Russian threat”. The same Bundeswehr, which during the years of the Cold War was the main armored fist of the North Atlantic Alliance, today has only three hundred tanksand half of them, according to German media reports a year ago, are not on track.

The situation is somewhat better in the armed forces of France and Poland. Another big problem is that the NATO countries (with the exception of Turkey), without developing new machines, turned out to be without promising models of tanks.

This is understandable: in the wars that the NATO countries fought in the 90 and in the beginning of the 2000, it was possible to manage with a small number of existing machines.

Now, the only way out for them was to improve those tanks that are in service. If we consider that these are mainly models developed by 30 — 40 years ago, the resource for their modernization is extremely limited.

The newspaper Die Welt published material on three modernized Leopard-2 tanks under the designation A7V (the same as the first German tank used by Kaiser Germany a hundred years ago on the Western Front), the letter V means "verbessert".

The presentation of three of these machines (just in the Armed Forces of the Bundeswehr today 20 such tanks) was held recently on the Lüneburg Heath in the vicinity of Münster.

The difference between the 2 Leopard A7V is full computerization, an enhanced booking kit that provides all-round protection, as well as protection from weapon systems that attack from above.

Day and thermal cameras allow all crew members to control the situation around the vehicle. The tank will receive a new stabilized panoramic sight, an electronic ballistic computer laser range finder. The driver got a seat suspended from the ceiling, which increases his chances of surviving a blast.

The standard MTU power unit received new flight gear units, new tracks from Diehl, an improved torsion bar suspension and braking system, which was a result of the increased weight of the vehicle.

An important option was a generator independent of the engine, which allows the electronics and the air-conditioning system to function even if the power unit is inoperative or damaged.

The tankers themselves consider this opportunity to be very important, and not only for countries with a hot climate.

The weight of the machine is 60 tons, and it reaches speeds up to 70 km / h.

It is noteworthy that Die Welt emphasizes that, in addition to modernizing the machines, in order for them to successfully operate on the alleged theater of operations, the road network of Eastern Europe needs to be radically improved.

Obviously, with all the useful and practical additions, the 2 Leopard A7V did not acquire fundamentally new and breakthrough characteristics. For example, in the updated tank the same manual loading, which of course affects the rate of fire.

The material states that tankers complain about the tightness of the combat vehicle, which is even more increased compared to previous modifications, which also indicates the exhaustion of the resource for modernization.

Note that Die Welt reports that "German tanks are now standing in the Baltic to intimidate Russia."

As far as they can frighten our country, whose tank fleet exceeds the German one at least ten times, the question is, of course, rhetorical.

However, hardly practical Germans, moreover, not distinguished today by excessive militancy, in reality set themselves such tasks.

Do not forget that the tanks "Leopard-2" are, among other things, the "bestseller" of the world arms market. These machines are in service with 18 states, and German manufacturers are seriously interested in offering them programs for upgrading existing machines. That is what explains the passages of the German media regarding the "intimidation" and "steel monsters."
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  1. svp67
    svp67 23 May 2018 06: 14
    +4
    Do not forget that the Leopard-2 tanks are, among other things, the “best seller” of the world arms market.
    Yes, really ... the Turks tried to "tarnish" the reputation of this "bestseller." And so I understand that Germany began the struggle for the NATO budget, not all US companies should get it.
    1. Safevi
      Safevi 23 May 2018 10: 14
      +10
      In Turkey, tanks of previous generations were used, without active protection. It is unlikely that this will tarnish Leo’s reputation. In Syria, Soviet and Russian tanks burn in packs, so what?
      1. Serge Gorely
        Serge Gorely 23 May 2018 10: 34
        +11
        It's time to update the poster
        1. Grafova Irina
          Grafova Irina 25 May 2018 23: 34
          +1
          Update with your own example. By the way, why is the “treshka” chosen as a model?
          1. Geisenberg
            Geisenberg 26 May 2018 14: 20
            -1
            Quote: Grafova Irina
            Update with your own example. By the way, why is the “treshka” chosen as a model?


            What was the sample and used. You will find the rest yourself.
      2. sabakina
        sabakina 23 May 2018 16: 01
        +5
        Quote: sefevi
        In Turkey, tanks of previous generations were used, without active protection. It is unlikely that this will tarnish Leo’s reputation. In Syria, Soviet and Russian tanks burn in packs, so what?
        Tutus at the ballerina. Farted? Well done! Have you paid at least?
      3. svp67
        svp67 23 May 2018 16: 02
        +2
        Quote: sefevi
        This is unlikely to tarnish Leo’s reputation.

        Not unlikely, but already ...
      4. yehat
        yehat 23 May 2018 16: 52
        +8
        how they burn is the best advertisement.
        It happens that they receive 9 hits of grenade launchers, easy field repairs and go their own way.
      5. Usher
        Usher 23 May 2018 20: 45
        +4
        She is not even on modern Leo. What are you scratching here?
      6. Geisenberg
        Geisenberg 26 May 2018 14: 19
        +5
        Quote: sefevi
        In Turkey, tanks of previous generations were used, without active protection. It is unlikely that this will tarnish Leo’s reputation. In Syria, Soviet and Russian tanks burn in packs, so what?


        It's right. Reputation lying below the possible wet out will not work. Comparison with Soviet tanks that burn here is not significant. T-55 without active protection burns from ultramodern TOW, and ultramodern Leopard burns from old Soviet anti-tank systems Fagot, Metis and Konkurs ... This is how to compare the southern coast of the Arctic Ocean with the northern coast of the Mediterranean Sea.
        1. Bad thing
          Bad thing 12 August 2018 23: 09
          0
          Quote: Geisenberg
          T-55 without active protection burns from ultramodern TOW, and ultramodern Leopard burns from old Soviet anti-tank systems Fagot, Metis and Konkurs
          All that is listed is younger than TOW will be.
    2. siberalt
      siberalt 23 May 2018 13: 11
      +5
      What is the tank for the Bundeswehr without a TV set and dry closet now? lol
      1. svp67
        svp67 23 May 2018 16: 03
        +1
        Quote: siberalt
        What is the tank for the Bundeswehr without a TV set and dry closet now?

        Changing table forgot to indicate in the configuration ...
      2. Geisenberg
        Geisenberg 26 May 2018 14: 22
        +2
        Quote: siberalt
        What is the tank for the Bundeswehr without a TV set and dry closet now? lol


        The question is not right. Without a sofa and biosartier this is a T-72) It would be right to ask if the army of homosexuals and armored vehicles are compatible in principle.
  2. inkass_98
    inkass_98 23 May 2018 06: 59
    +4
    How many years will it take the Germans to increase the number of tanks to the amount that would start to scare Russia? You don’t have to have time ...
    1. darkesstcat
      darkesstcat 23 May 2018 08: 45
      -1
      And where to place them? Go broke on lease of land for new tanks.
      1. YELLOWSTONE
        YELLOWSTONE 23 May 2018 08: 59
        +3
        Holland has already deployed its own in Finland to the Crimea
        1. Siberia 9444
          Siberia 9444 23 May 2018 14: 36
          +7
          At least open the card !! Where is Finland and where is Crimea or lard brain overshadowed? Nemchura knows how to make weapons, and even more so armored vehicles, so there is no need to kill him.
          1. the lord
            the lord 23 May 2018 14: 45
            +5
            "moreover, to Crimea" was most likely meant "before the events in the Crimea" - the Dutch placed their tanks in Finland before the events in the Crimea).
          2. Mih1974
            Mih1974 23 May 2018 21: 09
            -1
            They know how to do it, BUT - I’ll need to specially chopped it up and drank EVERYTHING that it was only possible "to never participate in the war against Russia" lol good . Because they already have "no acceptance of fascism", and even the "war against Russia" there does not seem to anyone an easy walk.
          3. YELLOWSTONE
            YELLOWSTONE 23 May 2018 23: 54
            0
            Quote: Siberia 9444
            armored vehicles

            one meter higher Yes
      2. svp67
        svp67 23 May 2018 16: 05
        +1
        Quote: Darkesstcat
        Go broke on lease of land for new tanks.

        Balts will take, and also pay
    2. svp67
      svp67 23 May 2018 16: 04
      +2
      Quote: inkass_98
      How many years will it take the Germans to increase the number of tanks to the amount that would start to scare Russia?

      Not much, two years. This is to create the shock of the Bundeswehr. Germany is only one of many NATO countries
  3. Fisher martin
    Fisher martin 23 May 2018 09: 29
    +3
    They once scared us with their tanks. It all ended with the Red Flag over the Reichstag. bully
    1. Passing
      Passing 29 July 2018 12: 55
      +1
      In those days, we had a rapidly developing modern economy and the unity of the people with power. People had something to die for, and there was something to fight.
      Now exactly the opposite picture. So it’s worth being scared.
  4. Servisinzhener
    Servisinzhener 23 May 2018 10: 09
    +2
    20 tanks, even the ultramodern, will not do anything. In the year 43, the Germans had more of Ferdinands, but this did not help them.
  5. Rostislav Mikhailovich
    Rostislav Mikhailovich 23 May 2018 10: 30
    +1
    Their ancestors also tanks came to us! AND?! So the flag in hand, blew in .......!
  6. Sedoy
    Sedoy 23 May 2018 11: 17
    +2
    Die Welt emphasizes that, in addition to modernizing the machines, in order for them to successfully operate on the proposed theater, the road transport network in Eastern Europe needs to be radically improved.


    here it is Mikhail ... :)
    it turns out that before you fight you need to shovel the whole of Europe - prepare roads for tanks ...
    no other way...
    modern war and tanks are only on the autobahns ...

    well ... we also have our own answer to this ... :)

  7. tarakan
    tarakan 23 May 2018 13: 08
    +1
    I propose to hang the driver’s seat on elastic bands
  8. Alexey RA
    Alexey RA 23 May 2018 13: 44
    +6
    Do not forget that the Leopard-2 tanks are, among other things, the “best seller” of the world arms market.

    This is a merit not only of the tank, but also of the German leadership, which during the Cold War accumulated huge reserves of Leo, and after the collapse of the USSR, it began to reduce its tank fleet, selling Leo almost at dumping prices. The same Makarov, when UVZ once again raised the price of the T-90 (by 70% (!)), Compared the price of new domestic tanks with Leo.
    To appreciate the scale of the big tank sale:
    In 1989, the Bundeswehr had about 5000 Leo of all models.
    For 2012 (and until recently) - 225 Leo-2.
  9. Alexey RA
    Alexey RA 23 May 2018 14: 46
    +4
    The newspaper Die Welt published material on three modernized Leopard-2 tanks under the designation A7V (the same as the first German tank used by Kaiser Germany a hundred years ago on the Western Front), the letter V means "verbessert".
    The presentation of three of these machines (just in the Armed Forces of the Bundeswehr today 20 such tanks) was held recently on the Lüneburg Heath in the vicinity of Münster.

    There is either a translation error, or in the original article.
    The Bundeswehr has no 20 "Leopard 2A7V". He has 20 cars of the previous modification "Leopard 2A7" - without the letter V. And they still have to go through modernization in 2A7V, and the delivery of the first serial 2A7V is scheduled for 2020.
    The German group Rheinmetall on September 27, 2017 announced that it had received a contract worth 118 million euros to modernize 104 Leopard 2 family tanks for the German army in the new Leopard 2A7V modification. Deliveries of the modernized Leopard 2A7V tanks should be launched by the German Bundeswehr in 2020. The general contractor for modernization will be the German company Krauss-Maffei Wegmann (KMW)
    Upgrades to the Leopard 2A7V variant 68 Leopard 2A4, 16 Leopard 2A6 and 20 tanks Leopard 2A7. However, only the last 20 tanks of the Leopard 2A7 are now part of the Bundeswehr. According to previously published information, 68 Leopard 2A4 vehicles will be purchased for modernization from the presence of the Swedish army, and 16 Leopard 2A6 tanks will likewise be acquired from the presence of the Dutch army.
    © bmpd
    They sold out - now the Germans have to buy tanks from the Swedes and the Dutch. smile
    1. Grafova Irina
      Grafova Irina 25 May 2018 23: 45
      +2
      That's what I like about Mr. Comrade, the gentleman from Olgino, because he doesn’t "shoot" into the air, unlike most here. And how a tank differs from an aircraft carrier - too. Because it knows how (or taught) to work with sources. True, I am more on boats, but, even there, I did not see unfounded comments from this interlocutor. You can dispute (no one canceled), as well as the interpretation of certain events ... But the ability to work with sources cannot be denied. I, nevertheless, had a "misfortune", in due time, to graduate from the history faculty, therefore, I hope, I can distinguish one thing from another
  10. Cannonball
    Cannonball 23 May 2018 14: 51
    0
    Good target smile
  11. NF68
    NF68 23 May 2018 15: 44
    +4
    The material states that tankers complain about the tightness of the combat vehicle, which is even more increased compared to previous modifications, which also indicates the exhaustion of the resource for modernization.


    It is enough to install Europack with the MTU MT-883 engine with the power of 1630 hp. or 2038 hp:



    Improving the power unit of the EPP and engines of the "880" family continues successfully. This is confirmed by the following facts:

    - Replacement in serial production of the French engine with the Hyperbar supercharging system with MT 883 diesel engine;
    - the use by the British company "Vickers" of the cooling system from the EPP block for the export version of the new main battle tank "Challenger" 2;
    - plan for the modernization of the Leopard 2A5 tank (Krauss-Maffei-Wegman company together with MTU) by replacing the power plant with an EPP unit with an 883 MT engine with 2038 horsepower.

    http://www.alexfiles99.narod.ru/engine2/mt880seri
    es / mt880series.htm

    And the place will be freed up, and, with great desire, the tower can be slightly pushed back by increasing the angle of inclination of the upper frontal plate of the hull and improving the protection of the tower itself in front. Everything rests on money, and here the German government has so far not been particularly generous. And in other countries, too, squeezed money.
    1. Mih1974
      Mih1974 23 May 2018 21: 13
      +4
      belay fool Are you crazy? What kind of tower can be “shifted” during modernization? Shovel the whole body and essentially do it again !! negative
      1. NF68
        NF68 23 May 2018 21: 20
        +1
        Quote: Mih1974
        belay fool Are you crazy? What kind of tower can be “shifted” during modernization? Shovel the whole body and essentially do it again !! negative


        This is much simpler and easier to do than to develop a completely new hybrid SU tank using electric drives like MDS or something similar to them. It will be possible to stick the AZ and the new 130 mm. German gun and something else useful.
    2. georgje
      georgje 24 May 2018 01: 14
      +3
      To move the tower a little or not a lot?)
      Are you a philosopher engineer (?)
      1. NF68
        NF68 24 May 2018 16: 34
        0
        Quote: georgje
        To move the tower a little or not a lot?)
        Are you a philosopher engineer (?)


        Tanks of a new generation in Germany and France before the beginning of the 2030-ies still should not be expected. And if it becomes necessary to get a more modern version of the same Leopard -2 A7V, then making changes to an existing tank is still much easier and faster than waiting for the next generation tank. There are still no other options. Germany, the BI, the USA and the USSR during WWII developed and produced completely new types of tanks in 1943; developed on the basis of the Royal Tiger; began to produce the Yagdtiger, whose body was longer than that of the CT on 20 centimeters, Romanians On the basis of the T-55 they released their own version with 6-rollers and an elongated body, why should the Germans, if necessary in peacetime when bombs are not dropped on their heads and have enough time, can not modify the tank they already have? After the WWII, how many prototypes on the basis of those already produced were serially developed that were noticeably different from the initial ones. And nothing.
    3. NyeMoNik70
      NyeMoNik70 12 August 2018 23: 14
      0
      Less fantasies comrade NF68, carefully read for which of the leopards is the letter V.
      https://www.rheinmetall.com/en/rheinmetall_ag/press/news/latest_news/index_12992.php
      crest translation:
      https://milnavigator.tv/kontrakt-rheinmetall-na-modernyzatsyyu-dlya-bundesvera-104-tankov-leopard-2-v-varyant-leopard-2a7v/
      Regarding the drawings and moving the tower + change the degree of inclination of the forehead, you at http://alternathistory.com/node?page=1
  12. Normal ok
    Normal ok 23 May 2018 20: 01
    +2
    Another big problem is that NATO countries (with the exception of Turkey), without developing new vehicles, found themselves without promising tank models.

    A few years ago there was infa that the Germans, together with the French, took up the development of a new tank.
    1. NF68
      NF68 23 May 2018 21: 21
      0
      Quote: Normal ok
      Another big problem is that NATO countries (with the exception of Turkey), without developing new vehicles, found themselves without promising tank models.

      A few years ago there was infa that the Germans, together with the French, took up the development of a new tank.


      Only this tank can appear no earlier than the beginning of the 2030's.
  13. LastPS
    LastPS 23 May 2018 21: 44
    +2
    An improved reservation kit that provides all-round protection, as well as protection against weapons systems attacking from above.

    Wow well done! Interestingly, is this some kind of KAZ? If so, it’s really cool, for some reason no one has done this yet, which is very strange, given the tendency of modern ATGMs to attack from above.
    In general, the author of the article claims that this tank is almost the answer to Armata, but in fact it’s just another modernization, like the M1A2 SEP V3 Abrams. Yes, and the assertion that leopards are forty years old rubbish - the essence is nonsense and provocation, just look at the electronic filling, the engine, as well as the characteristics and nomenclature of NATO ammunition of the same A7 modification.
    1. Kuroneko
      Kuroneko 23 May 2018 22: 48
      +2
      Quote: LastPS
      given the tendency of modern ATGMs to attack from above.

      Most ATGMs even of the second generation (by the way, the gradation is very arbitrary - and was invented by the first PR specialists of the USA, as well as in relation to fighters) were already created with an eye to attack from above.
      Our “partners” are modestly referring to the 2+ generation, I note (and my F-35 to the 5th, although it does not correspond to it based on the same requirements declared by America for the LVL5 hawk).
      1. LastPS
        LastPS 24 May 2018 00: 24
        0
        Yes, but earlier the option of meeting an Aboriginal with a “TOU” or “Cornet” was practically nonexistent.
    2. NF68
      NF68 27 May 2018 20: 54
      0
      Quote: LastPS
      just look at the electronic filling, the engine


      The engines they have are all the same-MV-873 Ka-501 power 1500 hp. Although there is a more powerful version of this 1800 hp engine. and at least the 2 version of the new more compact and promising MTU MT-883 1630 hp engine. and 2038 hp.

      otortyp Blockierte Leistung max. ISO 1585 Abgas-Emission
      kW PS 1/min
      MT 883 Ka-500 1100 1500 2700
      MT 883 Ka-500 CRI 1100 1500 2700
      MT 883 Ka-502 1200 1630 3000
      MT 881 Ka-501 CRI 800 1090 3000
      MT 881 Ka-500 735 1000 2700
      MB 873 Ka-501 1100 1500 2600
      MT 883 Ka-524 2016 2740 3300
  14. Kuroneko
    Kuroneko 23 May 2018 22: 37
    +3
    Do not forget that the Leopard-2 tanks are, among other things, the “best seller” of the world arms market.

    What the hell? The best-selling and best-selling tank is the export T-90!
    Author, do not know the topic - do not write.
    1. LastPS
      LastPS 24 May 2018 00: 27
      +2
      This does not negate the fact that the Leopard is very widespread, not to mention the machines created on its basis, such as the Korean panther or the new Turkish MBT.
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  15. The leader of the Redskins
    The leader of the Redskins 23 May 2018 23: 32
    +5
    For several years now, a dozen Armat have been shown to us at the parade and poured into our ears that this is the best tank in the world. And we joyfully drool, nodding manes ... Here comes the info, which turns out you can pull the tank up to the level of the next level without cutting, and the fighting hamsters get into a pose! Moreover, when it comes to aviation, the same hamsters give a rear peedoach. Now, in their opinion, an advanced aircraft is not needed, grab the suspenders of the past MiGs and Su ,,,,
    1. Alexey RA
      Alexey RA 24 May 2018 09: 49
      +1
      Quote: Leader of the Redskins
      For several years now, a dozen Armat have been shown to us at the parade and poured into our ears that this is the best tank in the world. And we joyfully drool, nodding manes ... Here comes the info, which turns out you can pull the tank up to the level of the next level without cutting, and the fighting hamsters get into a pose!

      If we took the path of the next modernization of the T-72 / T-90 platform, then the wise iksperds would just as well have stood in a position, proving that he drank it, because the modernization potential of the development tank of the 70s of the last century was practically exhausted and needed make a new base car. smile
  16. Nikolai Petrov
    Nikolai Petrov 24 May 2018 14: 10
    +1
    Quote: YELLOWSTONE
    Holland has already deployed its own in Finland to the Crimea

    Oh, if Holland has placed, it's time for us to give up laughing And a small backfill question: what and when did the Netherlands have “their” tanks? Maybe I'm behind life.
    In Holland, OWN - only stoned perverts
  17. Retvizan 8
    Retvizan 8 4 June 2018 17: 11
    0
    Worse than the pretty face of Angela Merkel, not what kind of tank to come up with.
  18. trahterist
    trahterist 14 June 2018 11: 32
    0
    It seems that all these modifications are made only to simulate violent activity (read, cut).
    'Computerize', i.e. to hang a bunch of whistle-farts, you can any tank that T-55, that T-72, that 'Armata' (which was successfully done with the latter).
    I didn’t see anything revolutionary in Leoperd, the design is the same as 40 years ago.
    However, as on Abram, with its SEP V3 ... lol
    And more than that, there are no more or less acceptable rivals (Merkava is a completely different apparatus, and absolutely not for our conditions).
    So it turns out that there is nothing but another empty air shake.
    1. Passing
      Passing 29 July 2018 13: 15
      0
      Revolutionary, it is not self-valuable, it only makes sense when it provides a clear advantage over archaism. What is today's Armata radically superior to Abrams and Leopard of the latest modifications? Yes, nothing. Those. It is possible that Armata is slightly better, but not qualitatively better. So what they have in the West is not imitation / cut at all, but a sober, economical approach - if there is no difference, why pay more?
      I’ll clarify: I do not belittle Armata, because of her layout and the availability of an automatic loader, it can theoretically provide a qualitative superiority over current Western tanks, but not in its current form, but in the distant future, when global rearmament to larger caliber tank guns takes place.
  19. trahterist
    trahterist 14 June 2018 11: 35
    +1
    Quote: LastPS
    An improved reservation kit that provides all-round protection, as well as protection against weapons systems attacking from above.

    Wow well done! Interestingly, is this some kind of KAZ? If so, it’s really cool, for some reason no one has done this yet, which is very strange, given the tendency of modern ATGMs to attack from above.
    In general, the author of the article claims that this tank is almost the answer to Armata, but in fact it’s just another modernization, like the M1A2 SEP V3 Abrams. Yes, and the assertion that leopards are forty years old rubbish - the essence is nonsense and provocation, just look at the electronic filling, the engine, as well as the characteristics and nomenclature of NATO ammunition of the same A7 modification.

    What is so outstanding in the engine ??
    Normal V12.
    Here in the Leclerc yes, the V8 with the 'hyperbar' was a very progressive design (mass to power ratio).
    Isn't it just another PR for MTU-Schnicks next?
  20. petrol cutter
    petrol cutter 12 August 2018 19: 48
    +3
    And why on the preview is another photo? Zamanuha?! .. I would have shied away from a grenade launcher for such a projection. Already drooling ...