The Russian "Petrels" have not yet flown far. American Media Report

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On the American television channel CNBC, a report was published on the Russian nuclear-powered cruise missile. The channel announced that they have information about "all the trials" of the newest Russian weapons. At the same time stated that these tests every time ended in failure.

The material of the American TC says that Russia conducted missile tests from November last year to February of the current year, and the missiles allegedly "did not fly more than 35 km and longer than 2 minutes during these tests."



The Russian "Petrels" have not yet flown far. American Media Report


From the material CNBC:
In this case, the shortest test of the Russian rocket lasted only about 4-s seconds. During this time, she traveled about five miles (a little more than 8 km, approx. "IN").


It was also announced (with reference to sources) that Russian hypersonic rockets did not immediately turn on the nuclear power plant, but only after a certain speed was set. Stated that the launch of the rocket is carried out using a "gasoline" (gasoline) engine, providing access to the necessary speed parameters at the initial stage of movement.

The article adds that a hypersonic missile capable of carrying a nuclear warhead was tested in Russia in the 2016-2017 years, and two launches were successful.

Recall that the video presentation of the latest developments of the domestic defense industry was demonstrated by the President of Russia during a message to the Federal Assembly last year. After that presentation, the Russians picked up names for the new generation of weapons. Thus, the cruise missile with a nuclear power plant was called the “Petrel”. According to the developers, today no one in the world has an air defense missile defense system capable of intercepting this missile.
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  1. +54
    22 May 2018
    Shove the CNBC correspondent during the following tests: at Burrevesnik. Let it fly wassat
    1. +42
      22 May 2018
      Well, what do you want to hear from this CNBC correspondent, who was talking about a gasoline engine on a cruise missile? laughing
      1. +7
        22 May 2018
        Russian hypersonic missiles do not immediately turn on a nuclear power plant, but only after gaining a certain speed. It is stated that the launch of the rocket is carried out using the "gas" belay belay belay (gasoline) engine, providing access to the necessary speed parameters at the initial stage of movement.

        Let’s leave the “Gasoline Engine” on the conscience of CNBC scribblers, but regarding the fact that the rocket does not immediately reach hypersound, but after the stage of dispersal (we must think not lingering), what’s wrong?
        1. +10
          22 May 2018
          The keyword gasoline is what’s wrong?
          1. +14
            22 May 2018
            Quote: Andrey Smirnovsky
            The keyword gasoline is what’s wrong?

            It’s hard with you Americans ... Are you really the way the late Zadornov described you?
            It is difficult to understand that in order to reach hypersound, a preliminary “acceleration”, an intermediate engine (possibly a stage) is necessary? And what kind of “engine” is this, and as he called it, let it remain in the hands of scribble
            Which is presented by YOUR reporters as a shortcoming of the "Russian rocket."
            1. +6
              22 May 2018
              Quote: Separ DNR
              It is difficult to understand that in order to reach hypersound, a preliminary “acceleration”, an intermediate engine (possibly a stage) is necessary? And what kind of “engine” is this, and as he called it, let it remain in the hands of scribble

              it is not the same ?
              Also announced (citing sources), that Russian hypersonic missiles do not immediately turn on a nuclear power plant, but only after gaining a certain speed. Stated that withmissile tart is carried out using a "gasoline" (gasoline) engine, providing access to the necessary speed parameters at the initial stage of movement.
              1. +3
                22 May 2018
                Quote: kipod
                it is not the same ?

                Same Yes that I’m trying to explain to the American Andrei, who was obsessed with gasoline.
                1. +10
                  22 May 2018
                  My dear, so come on to the studio: on which fuel is the acceleration of the Petrel going?
                  In the post about this, everything is smeared.
                  And then, I repeat, I am Russian and live in Russia.
                  I travel to the United States on a business trip.
                  1. +22
                    22 May 2018
                    A journalist is either a crest, or we recall Zadornov.
                    There is no Crimean bridge. Missiles do not fly. wassat lol laughing
                    1. +8
                      22 May 2018
                      An American journalist in his repertoire is all against Russia!
                      But the author of this post had to write this post more competently, for blurry infa.
                      1. MPN
                        +8
                        22 May 2018
                        Quote: Andrey Smirnovsky
                        for blurry infa.
                        How to say? I was pleased ...
                        about 4 seconds. During this time she covered about five miles (a little over 8 km,
                        This is 2 km per second ... Given the acceleration ... the characteristics are impressive, but what’s in the tests, so they’re tests, but the potential is impressive ... 2 km / s is about 6-6,5 m
                  2. +10
                    22 May 2018
                    Quote: Andrey Smirnovsky
                    My dear, so come on to the studio: on which fuel is the acceleration of the Petrel going?

                    on the wood. arranges? steam train dispersed. steamboats if sea-based
                    1. +4
                      22 May 2018
                      So you are the American journalist who gave the assessment to the Petrel?
                      1. +4
                        22 May 2018
                        I am his consultant
                  3. +15
                    22 May 2018
                    Whichever fuel he flies on - even in the cartoon it is clearly indicated that the rocket with nuclear warheads is subsonic. But the all-knowing "American journalists" fly in 4 seconds. 8 km is a subsonic ?! By the way, 2km per second. - this is for 6M.
                    Either the rhino and the crocodile were mixed up, or the money in the family budget was over ...
                    1. +2
                      22 May 2018
                      Also, such thoughts arose, the source allegedly says that the rocket flew 8 km in 4 seconds and 35 km in the time "not much more than 2 minutes", i.e. ~ 1000km / h, which is absurd! Why accelerate a rocket to supersonic (6M !!!!) if the cruising speed of its movement does not exceed the speed of sound?
                    2. +3
                      22 May 2018
                      Quote: Vlad.by
                      even in the cartoon it is clearly indicated that the rocket with nuclear warheads is subsonic. But the all-knowing "American journalists" fly in 4 seconds. 8 km is a subsonic ?!

                      shhhhhh ... don't shoot the office!
                      cartoon is a cartoon winked
                  4. +2
                    22 May 2018
                    He is not nice to you and is not required to submit anything to you. And on what fuel the acceleration takes place - you do not need to know, and your owners, too.
                  5. 0
                    23 May 2018
                    Quote: Andrey Smirnovsky
                    My dear, so come on to the studio: on which fuel is the acceleration of the Petrel going?
                    as my company officer said:
                    "and you can’t spit chewing carrots in your mouth?"
                    и
                    "that answer for ten years!"
                    joke if what laughing
                2. +6
                  22 May 2018
                  it was they who probably confused the tests of the new “gazelle”, it also first on gas, and then it turns on the gas. and travels a little - everything fits together
                  1. 0
                    22 May 2018
                    Quote: novel xnumx
                    it is also first on gas, and then it turns on the gas. and travels a little - everything fits together

                    in Siberia, on wood. in some regions on coal. but mainly on fuel oil laughing
              2. +23
                22 May 2018
                The petrel starts on a solid fuel accelerator. Everything, acceleration and the right height is available. Naturally there are bench tests, naturally there are flight tests of the propulsion system. The video shows the start and quite a flight of the sample. Everything else, the speculation of journalists and the complete failure of enemy intelligence. Pitiful talk in the media from failure and an attempt to show what type were in the know. Virtually complete surprise and reaction, from denial to hopelessness wassat
                1. +4
                  22 May 2018
                  Quote: hrych
                  Everything else, the speculation of journalists and the complete failure of enemy intelligence.

                  Well, some of our great strategists and minds think differently
                  For that, tests are carried out so that they are unsuccessful, and then make corrections to these unsuccessful tests

                  Deputy Chairman of the State Duma Committee on Defense Alexander Sherin.
                  Said so said ...
              3. +4
                22 May 2018
                "gas" boost engine is powerful laughing laughing laughing Further you can not read the delirium of America.
            2. +7
              22 May 2018
              They reassure themselves again, and more than others, while they scratch their turnips themselves, because the elbow is far away and it’s not easy to check all this out. smile
              1. +1
                22 May 2018
                Merikatos and Sumerians have much in common ... Svido-Ukrainians do not believe that the Crimean bridge was built ....- "They shot everything in Mosfilm ... everything will collapse ... the piles sank .." and the "partners" have data about " all tests of the latest Russian weapons. It is stated that these tests failed every time. - Do not sparkle with intelligence and diversity ... ... Shtatovskie minor!
            3. +7
              22 May 2018
              It’s hard for me to communicate with an opponent who saw an American mattress on my avatar.
              I dare to assure you that I am not a US citizen - I was born and raised and live in Russia.
              I still believe about hafnium with nitrogen, according to the criterion of energy stability, but not about gasoline.
              You understand me, my dear!
          2. +4
            22 May 2018
            Quote: Andrey Smirnovsky
            The keyword gasoline is what’s wrong?

            it is the word translated - gasoline
            - One of the translation options is fuel.
            1. +1
              22 May 2018
              Quote: Andrey Smirnovsky

              The keyword gasoline is what’s wrong?


              Quote: kipod
              it is the word translated - gasoline
              - One of the translation options is fuel.


              Amerikos, he is not strong in movs No.
              1. +3
                22 May 2018
                Quote: Separ DNR
                Amerikos, he is not strong in movs

                Well, actually translated into Russian - who? belay
                1. 0
                  22 May 2018
                  Quote: Separ DNR

                  Amerikos, he is not strong in movs

                  Quote: kipod
                  Well, actually translated into Russian - who?

                  I’m talking about this "business traveler" Andrey Smirnovsky
                  1. +2
                    22 May 2018
                    Separ, stop being rude.

                    This post is composed extremely clumsily - from this all misunderstandings.
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                      2. +5
                        22 May 2018
                        Stop being rude to me and send me your rudeness in a personal, my dear.
                        You have no arguments, so you switched to personal.
                        I repeat once again: the post is very blurry, because of this there are confusion between opponents.
                      3. +1
                        22 May 2018
                        Actually, in some states you won’t take another look at this resource otherwise. And for this it happens that the flag does not change from life so good.
            2. 0
              22 May 2018
              Quote: kipod
              it is the word translated - gasoline
              - One of the translation options is fuel.

              Yes, everything was translated normally! in Soviet times, for the filming of a movie in the Ministry of Defense, we gave out Danelia’s gravitappa, but now Lukoil simply loaded nishtyak rocket gasoline.
              Nothing to be surprised, everything goes according to plan bully
            3. +2
              22 May 2018
              one of the translation options is fuel

              fuel - fuel
          3. +1
            22 May 2018
            This scribbler does not know anything besides a gas or diesel car engine. He was simply told to falsify so he tries to the best of his knowledge.
          4. +4
            22 May 2018
            Displacement - 3,485 liters; Maximum power - 70 horsepower at 2800 rpm; The cylinder diameter and piston stroke are 82 and 110 mm, respectively; The compression ratio is 6,2; The order of operation of the cylinders is 1–5–3–6–2–4; Maximum torque - 20,5 kgf-m, at 1500-1700 rpm
            laughing
            1. +1
              22 May 2018
              engine from zila described?)
              1. +2
                22 May 2018
                No, GAZ-63. I went on it. A very reliable engine and car! good
          5. +6
            22 May 2018
            Quote: Andrey Smirnovsky
            The keyword gasoline is what’s wrong?

            Yes, completeness to you. Where did we get such a luxury - gasoline? We were at Obama's gas station. But tepericha is not like that. Due to the sanctions, rockets on birch wood have long been fired. And clean the guns with a brick.
          6. 0
            22 May 2018
            Quote: Andrey Smirnovsky
            The keyword gasoline is what’s wrong?

            Quote: Andrey Smirnovsky
            This post is composed extremely clumsily - from this all misunderstandings.

            My post is not compiled "clumsily", it just needed to be read correctly, focusing on punctuation marks
            Quote: Separ DNR
            in terms of the fact that the rocket does not immediately reach hypersound, but after the stage of acceleration (we must think not lingering), what’s wrong?
            .
            1. +3
              22 May 2018
              I thought that this is your illiterate post.
        2. +6
          22 May 2018
          And when did it become hypersonic KR ??? ))) the whole essence of the nuclei. installation in unlimited engine operating time, respectively, flight time.
        3. +5
          22 May 2018
          If gentlemen carefully listened to comments on Putin’s statement, they would have understood that a nuclear reactive installation (module) is being tested at the moment, which can be installed in principle on any subsonic cruise missile (the X-101 was given as an example) about any nuclear hypersound was out of the question, they themselves conceived as desired. so this module can also be tested on UAVs with a gasoline engine (initial stage, throw tests, or whatever it is called). And it’s natural to immediately launch a device with nuclear warheads around the ball to more than one normal person would not think of. Yes, and the test program is generally not known to us. And let us judge by the publications of some blissful American publication.
        4. +2
          22 May 2018
          Quote: Separ DNR
          Let’s leave the “Gasoline Engine” on the conscience of CNBC scribblers, but regarding the fact that the rocket does not immediately reach hypersound, but after the stage of dispersal (we must think not lingering), what’s wrong?

          ==========
          Well, the "hypersound" here may be "out of business" - most likely this missile (with a nuclear power plant) is still just supersonic ... This is not the point, but the fact that it has an UNLIMITED range ( that is, it can “spin” in the “square” for a long time, and then, at the command of “rush” toward the target along the given route, at least through the South Pole!). Well, as far as the power plant is concerned, as far as I am "versed in" medicine "" - the principle of operation of the nuclear power plant is something like a ramjet engine, in which the incoming air stream is heated not in the fuel combustion chamber, but due to the "fuel element" (TVEL), and therefore, like every other once-through installation it must be accelerated to the required speed with the ACCELERATOR (most likely "powder", well, in extreme cases, with oxygen-kerosene rocket engine!) ....
          Well, what about "gasoline" - fool
          It’s still good that the said “activist” (with erudition there clearly “didn’t work out”!) Did not assure that the STEAM MACHINE was standing there !!! With him will be !! lol
      2. +4
        22 May 2018
        Quote: Andrey Smirnovsky
        What do you want to hear from this CNBC correspondent Gas engine on a cruise missile? laughing

        Are you sure he said just that, or is it a translation problem?

        Gasoline:
        -gasoline; fuel; petrol;
        -fuel
        - the general name of a number of light oil distillates; corresponding gasoline fraction (by boiling range); active sulfur free gasoline
        -light fuel


        In general, this is not important, but the fact that the path from the cartoon to a working model turned out to be very long and difficult.
        1. +6
          22 May 2018
          way from cartoon to a working sample


          Do you create a cartoon in Israel, and do designers use it to create a model? Immediately, it seemed like the opposite was done, and then they showed a movie. And not the fact that the picture was inserted reliable. Would you like to check?
          1. +3
            22 May 2018
            Quote: dauria
            Do you create a cartoon in Israel, and do designers use it to create a model? Immediately, it seemed like the opposite was done, and then they showed a movie.

            No, they did not, and this article is just about that.

            Quote: dauria
            Would you like to check?

            I was not afraid of cartoons even in childhood.
            1. +5
              22 May 2018
              Quote: professor
              No, they didn’t, and this article is just about that.

              So you believe, do you have to fly over your house a couple of days?
              Quote: professor
              I was not afraid of cartoons even in childhood.

              These were Soviet cartoons ..
        2. +1
          22 May 2018
          Quote: professor
          In general, this is not important, but the fact that the path from the cartoon to a working model turned out to be very long and difficult.

          But has he passed (the path)? Is there a “working model” flying more than tens of kilometers claimed by the Americans?
          Or will we again hear something like the "inflatable Crimean bridge", "Mosfilm production" addressed to Russia?
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            1. +7
              22 May 2018
              Quote: professor
              There is no "working sample". I remember the rocket should have been able to fly for days.

              Professor, would you rather return to translations from English into Russian Yes
              Quote: professor
              I personally am interested in something else. What kind of terrain was clogged by four short-lived missiles with nuclear weapons?

              Do not worry. This was the Negev desert region ...
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            3. +3
              22 May 2018
              Sholom. Right now, believe the media that 100500 times caught in a lie. Thus, you simply show your incompetence. It is clear that you expect to set fire to a fart of pseudo-patriots, but you yourself turn into a moron, but only on the other side.
            4. +3
              22 May 2018
              Quote: professor
              With a nuclear power plant? Do not tell my slippers.

              =======
              After reading this "pearl", my cat began to" giggle vilely "!!! lol
              It is interesting to note that FACT missile tests with nuclear weapons in the State Department called SHOCK!!! And now all of a sudden, some kind of "borzapisets" "knows for sure"where, when and how many of these missiles flew and HOW the tests were completed !!! He wonders Shoigu"whispered in your ear"or personally GDP ???
              And you dear "prohvessor" on this bullshit "being" ???? fool
            5. +1
              22 May 2018
              Quote: professor
              With a nuclear power plant? Do not tell my slippers. Not only that cartoons showed so also cartoons with the bombing of Florida. Bollywood is resting.

              Where did you find Florida there? There was a fantasy globe)
              1. +1
                22 May 2018
                Quote: ButchCassidy
                Quote: professor
                With a nuclear power plant? Do not tell my slippers. Not only that cartoons showed so also cartoons with the bombing of Florida. Bollywood is resting.

                Where did you find Florida there? There was a fantasy globe)

                1. +2
                  22 May 2018
                  So not everywhere replaced)))

                  In any case - is it worth it to react? Well cartoons! Our country is generally compared with the "monster with tentacles from the deep sea" and nicho))
        3. +10
          22 May 2018
          Quote: professor
          In general, this is not important, but the fact that the path from the cartoon to a working model turned out to be very long and difficult.

          Well, Professor, you lack originality. Absolutely all samples showed in real time during start-upincluding throwing Sarmatian. Further, the animation, to display the concept of the weapon system, because the operator flying parallel to the hypersonic glider, must be put on the hypersonic glider to capture at least a parallel flight. The petrel is not a hypersonic missile., the president clearly said about the analogue of the X-101 and Tomahawk. For experienced American-Israeli journalists, this is also apparently not important. Gas climbers let the gasoline sniff. Well, at least they didn’t write about coal and firewood. laughing Moreover, it was her flight, besides the start and animations, that they showed. For speed allows you to follow a parallel course to the operator in the plane. If you have problems with glasses, I will send you. How many are there in the red? Still apparently need a hearing aid. I hope the diapers are not needed yet, although the time has come for the enemies of Russia to make a fortune laughing Also, Putin clearly said that the models were in varying degrees of readiness, and some stood on pilot combat duty. And with the Dagger apparently already figured out.
          Look carefully, listen carefully. And then, just like with ..., well, you yourself know whom: "They look, but they don’t see!"
          1. 0
            22 May 2018
            If the rocket is subsonic, then it is vulnerable to air defense.
            1. +4
              22 May 2018
              Quote: Vadim237
              If the rocket is subsonic, then it is vulnerable to air defense.

              If it has an unlimited range and flight time, it bypasses the enemy’s air defense zones, and attention is paid to this. The West has no layered air defense. Therefore, for them it is a great sadness. And the need for its creation. It also has all the advantages of envelope relief associated with the problem of detecting over-the-horizon radars. It is also not rejected, like the RCC Caliber, before hitting the target, switch to supersonic, dropping all unnecessary. Naturally, Petrel is a carrier of a nuclear warhead and strikes the target not with a direct hit, but with the damaging factors of a nuclear explosion, which is also important when overcoming enemy air defense / missile defense.
              1. +2
                22 May 2018
                The Americans have flexible air defense / missile defense on destroyers (IJIS), which are moving forward in dangerous directions. And aviation to intercept the Kyrgyz Republic.
                This “flying Chernobyl” is mainly a radioactive hazard to the area where it will land during testing or crash.
                Russia is switching to a "nuclear prodigy", which is clearly not a good life. The development of conventional precision weapons is inhibited.
                1. +6
                  22 May 2018
                  Quote: voyaka uh
                  The Americans have flexible air defense / missile defense on destroyers (IJIS), which are moving forward in dangerous directions. And aviation to intercept the Kyrgyz Republic.

                  That is, no, for a missile with unlimited range will attack across the land border with Canada and Mexico. And the guide here destroyers with Aegis laughing
                  Quote: voyaka uh
                  This “flying Chernobyl” is mainly a radioactive hazard to the area where it will land during testing or crash.

                  Normal comrades experience such things over the desert, and preferably over the ocean. The reactor is small-sized, it contains a small amount of fissile material, it is not a nuclear power plant reactor where under a hundred tons of radioactive muck. The finished product will land exactly in Washington and Tel Aviv wassat
                  1. +2
                    22 May 2018
                    It would be good, and the usual Yars ICBM would be enough
                    for hitting Washington and anywhere.
                    The notions of “wunderwaffe” come from a hopeless economic and technological lag.
                    And it will only lead to the next expensive round of the arms race sad - the answer is always come up -
                    in which the one who "has money" will win again.
                    1. +1
                      22 May 2018
                      Quote: voyaka uh
                      The notions of “wunderwaffe” come from a hopeless economic and technological lag.

                      What is your statement based on? How about the level of technological development of armaments in the Russian Federation, and about the forced notion of “wunderwaffe” in this connection?
                    2. +2
                      22 May 2018
                      Quote: voyaka uh
                      The notions of “wunderwaffe” come from a hopeless economic and technological lag.

                      Complete nonsense, we surpass the ICBMs qualitatively and quantitatively. They are technologically behind. ICBMs are BRs and not without problems, but are intercepted by the missile defense system and are also easily fixed by the missile defense system. The Kyrgyz Republic is much better at this, but they have the entire average range, they need to be delivered close to the enemy and by what means the aviation and navy. Here, the Petrel can start from the center of Russia and inflict a disarming strike on the enemy’s SPRN and ICBMs from any direction, unnoticed by the enemy. And after a disarming strike, the case will be completed by ICBMs. That is the essence of the Petrel. America does not have money, it is bankrupt, the real economy per capita is equal to Russia, which means that the possibilities are exaggerated. They cannot stop their projects with stealth and other heresies. They completely need to change the doctrine for Putin’s devices, moreover, these systems are partially there, partially will be put into operation, and the Americans have not even figured out how to deal with this, not that they have reached the deployment of systems. Making a super torpedo is very simple and cheap, but deploying a system like SOSUS, and even it worked on outdated, noisy, huge and shallow floating nuclear submarines of the USSR, didn’t manage. Boats calmly broke through and on duty in the Atlantic, and then a small, low-noise, deep-sea super torpedo with an unlimited waiting time and range. Here is the air and underwater Armagedon. American experts are simply horrified and shocked, only you are optimistic in sunny Israel wassat
                      1. 0
                        22 May 2018
                        Quote: hrych
                        and inflict a disarming strike on the enemy’s SPRN and ICBMs from any direction, remaining unnoticed by the enemy.
                        And conscience does not allow to cover SPRN and mines with ICBMs with the help of air defense systems and aviation with AWACS? Yes, the United States has a satellite group SPRN
        4. +1
          22 May 2018
          Quote: professor
          In general, this is not important, but the fact that the path from the cartoon to a working model turned out to be very long and difficult.

          ======
          WHEN happened otherwise??
      3. +11
        22 May 2018
        Let the American public sleep peacefully. Russian missiles are rusty, do not fly anywhere. These are all fakes.

        The main thing is for the American president to keep silent silently, and multi-star generals to change diapers! They are better informed)))
      4. +1
        22 May 2018
        Quote: Andrey Smirnovsky
        Well, what do you want to hear from this CNBC correspondent, who was talking about a gasoline engine on a cruise missile? laughing

        They don’t know that the first step in our wood laughing lol laughing
      5. 0
        22 May 2018
        Quote: Andrey Smirnovsky
        Well, what do you want to hear from this CNBC correspondent, who was talking about a gasoline engine on a cruise missile? laughing

        Well, how could these Russians run on firewood, it will become ...
      6. 0
        22 May 2018
        Quote: Andrey Smirnovsky
        about a cruise missile gasoline engine

        I’m thinking ... Doesn’t the thought fall asleep: is the engine two-stroke or is it still four-stroke? And about the volume would have more information - 2, 4, 6 or as much as 8 liters? laughing wassat
    2. 0
      22 May 2018
      Maybe he will launch this bird as a "combat duty" and let him fly around the ball until the "gasoline" runs out. winked
    3. +1
      22 May 2018
      They have two themes. For the layman, Russia is torn. For the budget, the Russians are coming.
    4. +2
      22 May 2018
      In this case, the shortest test of the Russian rocket lasted only about 4-s seconds. During this time, she traveled about five miles (a little more than 8 km, approx. "IN").

      It seems that this journalist was personally at the tests of the Petrel. All these statements that does not fly, do not exist, etc., Western media voiced for auto-training for the layman. So as not to worry, maybe their army is the most traveled army in the world.
      It will be funny to read these tadpoles when the Petrel is on duty and in series.
  2. +2
    22 May 2018
    It is stated that the launch of the rocket is carried out using a "gasoline" (gasoline) engine, which provides access to the necessary speed parameters at the initial stage of movement.
    1. +2
      22 May 2018
      What are you laughing at? This is an opinion from the other side of the barricade. In America, even before this report, they were ironically skeptical of the "super weapons" of the Russians.
      1. 0
        22 May 2018
        So this is for the stupid cattle vyser so that there is no panic.
    2. +3
      22 May 2018
      Yurievich hi - climb out from under the table wassat rocket past the spill, but now it rang terribly with nuclear gas! !! wassat
      1. +11
        22 May 2018
        Nuclear gas This tin .......... good
      2. +2
        22 May 2018
        Quote: ANCIENT
        hi - wassat rocket past the spill, but now it rang terribly with nuclear gas! !! wassat
        RZHUNIMAGU! I hardly drowned in tea!
        What about Skripals, what about the rocket ---, lack of brains., Anti-scientific nonsense!
    3. +2
      22 May 2018
      Quote: Andrey Yurievich
      It is stated that the launch of the rocket is carried out using a "gasoline" (gasoline) engine, which provides access to the necessary speed parameters at the initial stage of movement.

      They are wrong ... they make Petrel like that ..

      And then...

      And the soul swept into paradise. wassat
  3. +3
    22 May 2018
    Cruise missile gasoline engine? fool What volume is it -20 liters? ?? fool Bredyatina wrote "knowing", confirming with their nonsense that they are empty-bells and liars! !! The toad smothers them that they have no mind and closely repeat our developments, and they are slandering us!
    1. +9
      22 May 2018
      Quote: ANCIENT
      Cruise missile gasoline engine? fool What volume is it -20 liters? ?? fool Bredyatina wrote "knowing", confirming with their nonsense that they are empty-bells and liars! !! The toad smothers them that they have no mind and closely repeat our developments, and they are slandering us!

      This is nothing more than translation costs.
      It was understood that the missile has (most likely) a direct-flow turbojet or air-propelled engine based on liquid fuel (there are also developments on powder fuel) - the basis of which is made up of components from oil. (kerosene - as an example).
      1. +5
        22 May 2018
        So let it translate for sure so that later there are no such "misunderstandings".
        1. +2
          22 May 2018
          Quote: Andrey Smirnovsky
          So let it translate for sure so that later there are no such "misunderstandings".

          This is a question for the translator from English to Russian.
          it can be translated in different ways, depending on the technical literacy and other biases of the translator.
          1. +3
            22 May 2018
            And what are the fingers and the head given to the author of this post?
            Was it difficult for him to edit this translation?
            After all, because of the clumsy translation between the opponents there are confusion in this post.
      2. 0
        22 May 2018
        Quote: kipod

        This is nothing more than translation costs.

        How can I translate a gasoline engine differently?
    2. +1
      22 May 2018
      Quote: ANCIENT
      What volume is it -20 liters? ??

      I reviewed that report once again - I did not find a word about the gasoline engine.
      Managed to wipe the bastards laughing
      1. +5
        22 May 2018
        They are waiting for us to start pounding in the chest and proving something. Right now, do not wait.
      2. 0
        22 May 2018
        Quote: Wendigo
        Quote: ANCIENT
        What volume is it -20 liters? ??

        I reviewed that report once again - I did not find a word about the gasoline engine.
        Managed to wipe the bastards laughing

        And where did you reconsider? Link please?
  4. +5
    22 May 2018
    Quote: “Cruise missiles of the Russian Federation with a nuclear installation have not yet flown 35 km”
    Blessed is he who believes - it is warm to him in the world.
    Let yourself think that she doesn’t fly at all, what’s from this?
    1. 0
      22 May 2018
      Just following the logic, you can believe that it flies. laughing
      Blessed is he who believes - it is warm to him in the world.
      Let yourself think that she doesn’t fly at all, what’s from this?

      There are no facts, neither on either side.
    2. +1
      22 May 2018
      What is this one sawing a branch on which they are sitting? Congress now will not allow billion to "catch up and overtake" ...
  5. +4
    22 May 2018
    Even so, one must not forget that the road is overpowered by the one who walks. Let the rocket fly as it should not in a day, but in 10 years. Such weapons are put on duty at 50let, or even more.
    1. +9
      22 May 2018
      Aron, do you think the Russian president on air told the whole world an outright lie? ?? belay It’s just an article of a throwback, part of the information war! The project and developments on such missiles come from the USSR, then they even built a prototype — I don’t know how successful it was then! And now, having such a backlog, and at least not repeat the old Soviet development? ???
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        1. +2
          22 May 2018
          Quote: kipod
          Well, in general, not the first time.

          This is specifically a lie.
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            1. +3
              22 May 2018
              In the video, manipulation and playing on emotions, between some quotes of 10 years, is designed for unreasonable children and well-aged DBs.
              1. 0
                22 May 2018
                Quote: fortnight
                Well, too big DB.

                to which you can safely attribute most of the Jewish scribblers on the forum wassat
            2. +3
              22 May 2018
              The video is crazy. I did not hear lies in Putin's words, even though the author tried to pervert everything.
              1. 0
                22 May 2018
                Quote: Sheff333
                The video is crazy. I did not hear lies in Putin's words, even though the author tried to pervert everything.

                Well then, please comment for starters that they will not enlarge the regions and put their appointees at the head, but will choose leaders by secret direct vote. feel
                1. 0
                  22 May 2018
                  You probably never led people. Previously, when people themselves elected leaders of the regions, and they succumbed to their duties, the president could only endure. And all the bumps, for their poor work, poured on him. Cancellation of elections and the transition to the appointment of governors is a logical step. He took full responsibility for their work for himself and got the opportunity to change them when necessary. Where is the lie here? In 2002, he himself said that he did not know whether the election of governors was good or bad, and in 2004 he realized that it was bad and changed everything by taking responsibility for their work. Changing your mind after a while, this is completely normal for any person.
                  1. 0
                    22 May 2018
                    Quote: Sheff333
                    Where is the lie here?

                    Really, where? Today he said that "we will not enlarge the regions and appoint leaders", and tomorrow he enlarged and appoints.
                    Quote: Sheff333
                    Changing your mind after a while, this is completely normal for any person.

                    Well, yes.
                    "So it is written in the Constitution and it should remain so"

                    The Constitution is not satisfied - we will rewrite. He promised that he would stay that way and changed his mind. And yes, he didn’t lie. recourse
                    1. 0
                      22 May 2018
                      He did not promise anything, but expressed his opinion that he does not have the ability and desire to enlarge and appoint. As the leader of such a huge country, he makes decisions that he believes are the right ones. In his place, you, and any other would do the same. It would be a lie if he appointed governors and said that they were elected.
                      1. 0
                        22 May 2018
                        Quote: Sheff333
                        He did not promise anything, but expressed his opinion that he does not have the ability and desire to enlarge and appoint.

                        Ага.
                        So it is prescribed in the Constitution and so it should remain.

                        Hello to the Constitution! Well, you never know what is written there.

                        Quote: Sheff333
                        It would be a lie if he appointed governors and said that they were elected.

                        Five points!
            3. +1
              22 May 2018
              A hedgehog has trouble with everything that is possible, it’s even difficult to single out at least some healthy element.
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        1. +1
          22 May 2018
          You two, naive boys with pigtails and an undecided gender are trying to catch a professional intelligence officer on the floor. Give me a net?
        2. +1
          22 May 2018
          Fell to the west, there they all say the "truth". You’ll watch the videos as above laid out kipod.
          1. 0
            22 May 2018
            You see, their goal is different, the goal is to be humiliated by the West, perverts are catching this buzz.
  6. +1
    22 May 2018
    USA: Russian "Petrels" have not yet flown far
    Want to try it out?
  7. 0
    22 May 2018
    That this nonsense is immediately evident in the phrase about the tests from November to February) before and after neither)))
    1. 0
      22 May 2018
      this is not nonsense! stop it’s just that in March the scribble had an aggravation - he hadn’t before winked
  8. +3
    22 May 2018
    And I have accurate information that the US missile defense systems are completely useless. Nobody has ever intercepted anyone ... These CNBCs are so informed - where the CIA is! In which pub did they find such an informed source? Or - received information from the "networks"? I can imagine the degree of secrecy of such tests ... And here ... American television ... wassat
  9. +3
    22 May 2018
    Petrol! Probably kerosene and oxygen to get to the parameters! The translation is clumsy! And it’s interesting to overcome 35 km in two minutes and 4 km in 8 seconds then probably a pause hangs in place!
    1. +3
      22 May 2018
      Here I am about that!
  10. 0
    22 May 2018
    Well, at least on gasoline ... they could have put steam.
  11. +2
    22 May 2018
    Quote: kipod
    Quote: Andrey Smirnovsky
    The keyword gasoline is what’s wrong?

    it is the word translated - gasoline
    - One of the translation options is fuel.

    Thank you.
    About that I know.
    I just hate vague definitions in posts.
  12. +2
    22 May 2018
    Quote: kipod
    Quote: Separ DNR
    Amerikos, he is not strong in movs

    Well, actually translated into Russian - who? belay

    Google
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  14. +3
    22 May 2018
    Quote: professor
    Quote: Andrey Smirnovsky
    What do you want to hear from this CNBC correspondent Gas engine on a cruise missile? laughing

    Are you sure he said just that, or is it a translation problem?

    Gasoline:
    -gasoline; fuel; petrol;
    -fuel
    - the general name of a number of light oil distillates; corresponding gasoline fraction (by boiling range); active sulfur free gasoline
    -light fuel


    In general, this is not important, but the fact that the path from the cartoon to a working model turned out to be very long and difficult.


    The semantic text of this post is blurred - there are misunderstandings from this.
  15. +1
    22 May 2018
    If the Americans wrote, then the way it is. The whole world remembers stories about ump in Iraq, recently in Syria. As the Russians chose Trump, the Skripals were poisoned. It’s necessary to wear a salary straight on the TV when CNBC broadcasts and bows to beat.
  16. +2
    22 May 2018
    On a gasoline engine? Smiled. Apparently the Russian counterintelligence is making fun of them.
  17. +1
    22 May 2018
    Top of stupidity to argue about what you do not understand at all ...
    1. +2
      22 May 2018
      do not attempt sacred! here every second specialist rocket))))
  18. 0
    22 May 2018
    With a gasoline engine ??
    Four-stroke, hopefully? laughing
    Well, even so! Oh, not on the oars)
  19. +1
    22 May 2018
    Dave Majumdar has a worthy competitor Yes
    1. 0
      22 May 2018
      Quote: thinker
      Dave Majumdar has a worthy competitor

      In my opinion, she already flew into her nose ..
  20. +1
    22 May 2018
    Once on the site it was convenient to watch the rating of articles. So this morning, the inhabitants of Russia are not interested, neither the economy, nor politics, nor weapons. But DARAGIE RUSSIANS understand, they were offended that the Americans doubted the strength and capabilities of Russian weapons. And sitting on the couch and breaking the keyboard, everyone rushed to curse the Americans. I wonder how many Americans will read these comments. And will the power of weapons increase from angry comments?
    1. +2
      22 May 2018
      Of course, instead of morning coffee, I like to proclaim America. But nothing that this news is in the headlines of all Runet? Like a hungry dog ​​grabs a bone, so Yandex and RBC grabbed it and immediately put it in the front pages. So tell your American friends to stop riveting the fakes that so excite the democratic public.
      1. 0
        22 May 2018
        I love to proclaim America.
        You also curse bad neighbors in real life, but you are not interested in the health of your wife and the affairs of children. You do not care about the condition of the entrance, streets and houses of your city. The main thing is to discuss the neighbor who barked at you drunk yesterday.
        And the Americans are your friends because the opinions of others do not interest me. By the way, recently in Runet headlines, slaves discussed the wedding of their lord Prince Harry.
        1. +1
          22 May 2018
          You have to go into the battle of psychics. You can read thoughts at a distance and see for many kilometers.
          Or just go to the rubble and, as usual, proklinit everyone around.
        2. +2
          22 May 2018
          Quote: Gardamir
          americans are your friends

          Who are your friends?
          Quote: Gardamir
          You also curse bad neighbors in real life, but you are not interested in the health of your wife and the affairs of children. You do not care about the condition of the entrance, streets and houses of your city.

          That is .. Do not pay attention to the slop in our direction, but let's better
          cry what Gardamir’s porch entrance ..
          1. 0
            22 May 2018
            let's get better
            discuss how to make Russia better. While you sniff American poop in Russia it is better not to become.
        3. +2
          22 May 2018
          Take the log from your eye Gardamir! There is only bile and arrogance in your comments, the curses of the Russian leadership and there is nothing more! Only this is the goal of your comments.
          What slum do you live in, Gardamir, that you have so much hatred?
    2. +1
      22 May 2018
      Quote: Gardamir
      But DARAGIE RUSSIANS understand, they were offended that the Americans doubted the strength and capabilities of Russian weapons. And sitting on the couch and breaking the keyboard, everyone rushed to curse the Americans.

      And only Gardamir rushed to protect the Americans. Should someone protect them? And who, if not Gardamir with his active citizenship?
      1. 0
        22 May 2018
        Guardamir rushed to defend the Americans
        all the above unsubscribing obviously confuse something. I do not care about the Americans so much that I would like to write less about our enemies dreaming more about how to live.
        1. +2
          22 May 2018
          Quote: Gardamir
          all the above unsubscribing obviously confuse something. I don't give a damn about the Americans

          Sorry, this is called "useful" ..
          Bespontovy whining about our life, water to the mill of enemies.
          1. 0
            22 May 2018
            Bandless whining about our life
            Yes, you are all crazy. I'm not talking about whining, but about the desire to make Russia great.
            1. +2
              22 May 2018
              Quote: Gardamir
              Yes you are all crazy

              When it seems that everyone is crazy, you need to check your head.
              Quote: Gardamir
              I'm not talking about whining, but about the desire to make Russia great.

              You do not talk about whining .. You whining about desire ..
              How is it not disgusting themselves? By golly ..
              1. 0
                22 May 2018
                You do not talk about nagging .. You whine about desire
                VO seems doomed to trolls.
                1. +1
                  22 May 2018
                  Quote: Gardamir
                  VO seems doomed to trolls.

                  And don’t talk .. I don’t care what the article is about, they’re all about theirs, about sad things ..
  21. +1
    22 May 2018
    Not on gas, but on dung!
    Dumb!
  22. +1
    22 May 2018
    Lord, what nonsense! fool
  23. 0
    22 May 2018
    Why are there little things, Yankees! Which one there"Gasoline"write that a Russian rocket flies - "on the wood"if you from this calmer sleeping ... laughing
  24. 0
    22 May 2018
    At the same time, the shortest test of a Russian rocket lasted only about 4 seconds. During this time she covered about five miles
    This is from the start, as I understand it, it is 8 km. in 4 seconds flew by. Good "bad launch"!
  25. 0
    22 May 2018
    Quote: For example
    There is no Crimean bridge. Missiles do not fly.

    Well, only the Tomahawks fly in Syria. Smart, fast and beautiful. All 105 pieces.
  26. 0
    22 May 2018
    Well, so that not far flew away !? But for us the price of gas for the second time in a month has risen, but for us ...!
  27. 0
    22 May 2018
    And then I think that gasoline is getting more expensive, but it turns out that they were all allowed to test new missiles. Exactly, the tests failed due to the poor quality of gasoline, again additives were added !!! But seriously, I strongly doubt that the freelance correspondent may have secret information inaccessible to the CIA.
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  29. +4
    22 May 2018
    Quote: Wild_Grey_Wolf
    Actually, in some states you won’t take another look at this resource otherwise. And for this it happens that the flag does not change from life so good.

    On other sites (before posting my post) I always accurately edit the translation so that then there would be no such blunders and incomprehensions as here.
    Let it remain on the conscience of the author of this illiterate post, for ...
    1. 0
      22 May 2018
      Quote: Andrey Smirnovsky
      Let it remain on the conscience of the author of this illiterate post, for ...

      This blunder was given to you .. In each article there are practically errors, but maybe with the editors a problem.
      At VO, as I understand it, they do not work for salaries, if I'm not mistaken. More annoying when
      to the news, their speculation is being dragged. But in general, I believe in more than the first channel,
      not to mention other media.
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  31. +3
    22 May 2018
    Wild_grey_wolf,
    I went to this resource in the USA.
  32. +3
    22 May 2018
    Quote: LSA57
    I am his consultant

    I got what you mean.) lol
  33. 0
    22 May 2018
    It was also announced (with reference to sources) that Russian hypersonic missiles do not immediately turn on a nuclear power plant, but only after gaining a certain speed.


    Where did the translator get that Thunderbird hypersonic ?. And in general, there they were talking about two missiles - Petrel and Vanguard.
  34. 0
    22 May 2018
    The author or his sources have probably not been to Russia since the late 90s. Then it was possible that adopted inoperative samples.
    1. 0
      22 May 2018
      And when will they adopt the Petrel?
  35. 0
    22 May 2018
    At first they completely denied it, but now they write that there were tests ... Interesting))
  36. 0
    22 May 2018
    Quote: Vlad.by
    Whichever fuel he flies on - even in the cartoon it is clearly indicated that the rocket with nuclear warheads is subsonic. But the all-knowing "American journalists" fly in 4 seconds. 8 km is a subsonic ?! By the way, 2km per second. - this is for 6M.

    Well, I think the main thing in this article is a clumsy translation. In principle, it will be able to fly 8 km in 4 seconds, technically it is possible. Take a rocket with a mass of 500 kg and put on it an accelerator with a thrust of 20 tons and a working time of 5-8 seconds. and will not accelerate to that speed. Of course, then the speed will drop. As for what it is, supersonic, subsonic and everything else - we all make one mistake. We use a cartoon as a source of information. And what was painted there - one must ask the authors of the drawings, who are unlikely to know with a 100% guarantee what aerodynamic form the subsonic, supersonic and hypersonic rockets have.
    If there is a direct-flow tank, then it will start exclusively at certain speeds. What should be the speed of air passing through this engine so that it does not overheat and does not go into the spacing - it is also not clear
    The only thing that most likely corresponds to the reality is that the tests were not successful (insider information about this circulated in the network). But this is not unusual. Development is underway and failure simply must be. Many of our missiles were tested in quantities of up to 30-40, before the exhaust system entered service.

    Quote: kipod
    Quote: Andrey Smirnovsky
    The keyword gasoline is what’s wrong?

    it is the word translated - gasoline
    - One of the translation options is fuel.

    That's right. the translator, without further ado, took the first possible translation option - gasoline. For this it is necessary to say "thank you" to the translator, and not to the author of the article
    1. 0
      22 May 2018
      It’s completely not clear to me how the phrase gasoline engine can be translated, other than a gasoline engine. Tell me pliz options. A fuel engine, or what?
  37. 0
    22 May 2018
    They are very offended by such a technological lag. Being an INCAM is not a pleasure. Yes, and do not have to. In our country, anyway, about the world, the world will be remembered at the right time, about international law, everything will be sawn under a treaty whatever, and then everything will be re-created. So in vain temperament gentlemen from Sinbisi.
  38. +1
    22 May 2018
    From the first to the last word in this little note to an American magazine, excuse me, for a journalist - nonsense and lies. Excuse me, the American journalist, in principle, cannot know anything about the most secret project of the Russian defense industry. Just what Putin voiced and everyone knows. And everything else is the irresponsible buzz of flies. So they are buzzing ...
  39. ZVS
    0
    22 May 2018
    And then what did the president represent? Illegal development of the Kyrgyz Republic? Again misunderstood.
  40. 0
    22 May 2018
    I understand that the Americans did not know about any missiles with nuclear engines at all. After they were declassified, so they began to claim that their trials were unsuccessful.
  41. 0
    22 May 2018
    Merold,
    No need to treat the Constitution as the Holy Scriptures. I do not set myself the goal of convincing you. How many people have so many opinions. You have the right to believe that you were deceived. I personally believe that his decision is justified. I would do the same. Maybe I'm wrong, but I support him in this decision. Maybe I will change my mind in the future, but today I think so.
    1. +1
      22 May 2018
      Quote: Sheff333
      Merold,
      No need to treat the Constitution as the Holy Scriptures. I do not set myself the goal of convincing you. How many people have so many opinions. You have the right to believe that you were deceived. I personally believe that his decision is justified. I would do the same. Maybe I'm wrong, but I support him in this decision. Maybe I will change my mind in the future, but today I think so.

      Bambarbia Kergoudou. And not otherwise.
      1. 0
        22 May 2018
        Nikolay Fedorov
        "Bambarbia to Kergood. And not otherwise."
        smile
  42. +1
    22 May 2018
    I see no reason to discuss the wretched, that’s how we get to discussing articles on “censor.net”.
    Another American scribbler sucked an article from his finger, commissioned by the Pentagon, and paid himself another month of mortgage, in an area without blacks. For him, this may be a vital necessity.
  43. 0
    22 May 2018
    "And the missiles allegedly" did not fly during these tests more than 35 km and longer than 2 minutes "

    - But I wonder if it was necessary to launch this “flying Chernobyl” on tests further and longer, beyond the limits of the landfill?
    what
  44. 0
    22 May 2018
    Offer them to get this “flightless” rocket, they will start hysterically screaming that Russia is an aggressor, threatening the entire civilized world, etc. etc.
  45. 0
    22 May 2018
    Quote: Nikolai Fedorov
    Just what Putin voiced and everyone knows. And everything else is the irresponsible buzz of flies. So they are buzzing ...

    Well, they have the same sources of information in the military-industrial complex and special services, like our journalists, too. Therefore, you should not think that it is only known that Putin voiced and nothing else.

    Quote: Satanator
    But I wonder if it was necessary to launch this “flying Chernobyl” on tests further and longer, beyond the boundaries of the landfill?

    And how can you be sure that it will fly as long as necessary, without range limitations, if such tests are not carried out?
  46. 0
    22 May 2018
    Quote: Andrey Smirnovsky
    And then, I repeat, I am Russian and live in Russia.

    and then hell then hung a flag? Do you love secret love?
  47. 0
    22 May 2018
    If the enemy scolds you, then you are doing everything right !!!
    If praises - beware: somewhere that something went wrong !!!
  48. 0
    23 May 2018
    Quote: hohkn
    Quote: Andrey Smirnovsky
    about a cruise missile gasoline engine

    I’m thinking ... Doesn’t the thought fall asleep: is the engine two-stroke or is it still four-stroke? And about the volume would have more information - 2, 4, 6 or as much as 8 liters? laughing wassat

    I also can’t fall asleep ... but how much oil, OIL, should I take with me? two in four or all the same two in five from the liquid molly to take ?? my dream will be hard ... laughing
  49. 0
    23 May 2018
    "According to the developers, to date, no one in the world has air defense systems that can intercept this missile."

    And if the developers are wrong?
    Indeed, over the past 100 years of Russian history, we have heard many such categorical statements.

"Right Sector" (banned in Russia), "Ukrainian Insurgent Army" (UPA) (banned in Russia), ISIS (banned in Russia), "Jabhat Fatah al-Sham" formerly "Jabhat al-Nusra" (banned in Russia) , Taliban (banned in Russia), Al-Qaeda (banned in Russia), Anti-Corruption Foundation (banned in Russia), Navalny Headquarters (banned in Russia), Facebook (banned in Russia), Instagram (banned in Russia), Meta (banned in Russia), Misanthropic Division (banned in Russia), Azov (banned in Russia), Muslim Brotherhood (banned in Russia), Aum Shinrikyo (banned in Russia), AUE (banned in Russia), UNA-UNSO (banned in Russia), Mejlis of the Crimean Tatar People (banned in Russia), Legion “Freedom of Russia” (armed formation, recognized as terrorist in the Russian Federation and banned)

“Non-profit organizations, unregistered public associations or individuals performing the functions of a foreign agent,” as well as media outlets performing the functions of a foreign agent: “Medusa”; "Voice of America"; "Realities"; "Present time"; "Radio Freedom"; Ponomarev; Savitskaya; Markelov; Kamalyagin; Apakhonchich; Makarevich; Dud; Gordon; Zhdanov; Medvedev; Fedorov; "Owl"; "Alliance of Doctors"; "RKK" "Levada Center"; "Memorial"; "Voice"; "Person and law"; "Rain"; "Mediazone"; "Deutsche Welle"; QMS "Caucasian Knot"; "Insider"; "New Newspaper"