US Air Force Minister: Russian and Chinese missiles will shoot down our aircraft at the beginning of the war

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US Secretary of the Air Force Heather Wilson commented on the situation in which the United States could find itself in the event of a military conflict with the Russian Federation and the PRC. The main topic touched upon by Mrs. Minister was the topic of the effectiveness of target designation and combat control aircraft equipped with a JSTARS radar system. According to Wilson, even the newest modifications of these aircraft will be useless if the conflict with Moscow and Beijing does arise.

Modern Russian and Chinese ground-to-air missiles have a range so large that this aircraft will be shot down immediately after the start of the conflict. This is the statement made by an American official.



Why in the United States, at the highest level, they started talking about an aircraft with the mentioned JSTARS system? The fact is that the congress is discussing the question of finding a replacement for the current program. For this, military experts, heads of departments, including Heather Wilson, are invited. In particular, it is proposed to take up a new program (with the allocation of new funds, of course), which involves the management of air operations by collecting information from other aircraft, drones, as well as satellites. Heather Wilson considers the transition to the new program expedient, while asking for the allocation of seven billion dollars for it.

US Air Force Minister: Russian and Chinese missiles will shoot down our aircraft at the beginning of the war


For reference: Boeing E-8 Joint STARS (JSTARS) is made on the basis of a passenger airliner Boeing 707-300. The use of these machines in the US Air Force was launched in 1996 year. They took part in almost all US Air Force operations, including operations in Afghanistan and Syria. The maximum speed of the aircraft is 0,84M, the practical ceiling is 12,8 km, the duration of the patrol is up to 12 h. The detection range is up to 250 km. Area of ​​view - 120 degrees, provided using radar AN / APY-3.
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  1. The comment was deleted.
    1. +12
      21 May 2018 18: 02
      Quote: NEXUS
      UV ... DB ...

      How shoud I understand this ? "Tired Fleet of Long-Range Bombers"? lol
      1. +6
        21 May 2018 18: 23
        Yes! Aunt Heather has grown old ... She told the truth, .. and to all of America ... wassat lol

        or 7 yards of “Baku” is already burning a thigh ...... and more expensive than its own reputation .... recourse
        1. +5
          21 May 2018 18: 26
          "What a disgusting erysipelas!" (with)
          1. +4
            21 May 2018 18: 27
            .... "Associate Professor" nicer .. will be much
        2. SSR
          +1
          21 May 2018 23: 45
          Quote: Solomon Kane
          Yes! Aunt Heather has grown old ... She told the truth, .. and to all of America ... wassat lol

          or 7 yards of “Baku” is already burning a thigh ...... and more expensive than its own reputation .... recourse

          Note, without huge beads.)))
      2. +5
        21 May 2018 18: 28
        Quote: bouncyhunter
        UV ... DB ...
        How shoud I understand this ? "Tired Fleet of Long-Range Bombers"?

        No.
        ULTRAVIOLET!!!!!

        Yes
      3. +2
        21 May 2018 20: 34
        pasha

        I have a different translation, the words of this comrade (Tired of Flooding Further More ...) laughing lol
        1. +3
          21 May 2018 21: 35
          Dima, quite yourself. wink
    2. +9
      21 May 2018 18: 02
      Quote: NEXUS
      UV ... DB ...


      and I would play along ... would impose a sanction ban on the Boeing to use titanium alloys purchased in Russia in military orders lol lol
      1. +4
        21 May 2018 18: 07
        Sashka (Alexander hi ) and you sir train wassat you take off planes - shovel - have to knock down! !! good
        1. +6
          21 May 2018 18: 10
          Quote: ANCIENT
          Sashka (Alexander hi ) and you sir train wassat you take off planes - shovel - have to knock down! !! good


          Serge ... we can ... flock .. because we are a gang. laughing laughing
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        3. +4
          21 May 2018 18: 11
          hi The shovel is for its intended purpose, for arrogant mugs, and airplanes can also be packed with a butterfly net. smile
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        5. +4
          21 May 2018 23: 59
          Quote: ANCIENT
          you take off planes - shovel - have to knock down! !!

          Something like that: laughing
          1. +1
            23 May 2018 08: 47
            Sanya, welcome hi And dad Jones used an umbrella and birds for this

            At the very end of the video good
            1. +1
              23 May 2018 10: 40
              Quote: Svarog51
              And dad Jones used an umbrella

              Hello, Sergey! hi I won’t be surprised if the plot of the video (this, by the way, is an advertisement wassat ) inspired by the work of Spielberg.
              1. 0
                23 May 2018 10: 47
                Same story from "Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade" Yes Didn't you look? belay I just didn’t find another in YouTube. request
                1. +1
                  23 May 2018 10: 55
                  Quote: Svarog51
                  Same story from "Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade"

                  Duc, I'm talking about my video. (This is an advertisement for something) Yes And Jones ... this part of the year in 92 he looked. laughing hi
                  1. +1
                    23 May 2018 11: 00
                    Well, well, so I burst then crying Here's another excerpt from a Korean movie. lol There’s generally a brain rupture - the T-34 drives a Mustang fellow
                    1. +1
                      23 May 2018 11: 27
                      Quote: Svarog51
                      T-34 drives a Mustang

                      Yes, well-known personnel. Yes Korean cinema, however, can also shoot.
                      1. +1
                        23 May 2018 11: 38
                        At first I saw this video in YouTube, then I downloaded the film to my collection. I collect all the "tank" films. If you want to have fun, download and watch the Polish b / w film "Lucky Anthony". True, it is not translated, well, it is not really needed, and so everything is clear. I will not tell the plot, otherwise it will not be interesting to watch. hi
      2. +5
        21 May 2018 18: 09
        I don’t know about the “knocking down,” but that Russia, that China will stand to death, knowing full well what will be done with our countries in case of freezing ... Hitler is just resting!
        1. +4
          21 May 2018 18: 17
          Vitaly, hello! hi What shaw did you see (judging by the flag)? Has it caught a cold? wink lol
          1. +4
            21 May 2018 18: 46
            Quote: bouncyhunter
            Vitaly, hello! hi What shaw did you see (judging by the flag)? Has it caught a cold? wink lol

            Hi Pasha brother! Honestly, I can not stand this flag color ..
            I hope when we take Kiev they will change it .. It so happened! In general, I have many relatives with the Ukrainian pedigree, so I have the right!))) wink
  2. +4
    21 May 2018 17: 59
    So our rockets are peaceful lol -The planes will be knocked down gently, and with a guarantee that the plane would fall apart in flight, and not fall to the ground -We are for a clean planet! lol
    1. +3
      21 May 2018 18: 07
      love
      Quote: ANCIENT
      It’s a guarantee that the plane would fall apart in flight, and not fall to the ground — we are for a clean planet!

      we will beat gently, but hard ... lol they don’t have time to take off, we’ll bury on the ground wink
      1. +2
        21 May 2018 18: 20
        Marisha, howdy there! love
      2. +3
        21 May 2018 18: 33
        Quote: Masya Masya
        we will beat gently, but hard ...

        Agree Yes . Like that:

        wink
        1. +2
          21 May 2018 19: 34
          While they beat us, neatly and accurately! And we only express indignation at best.
      3. +2
        21 May 2018 19: 24
        Bury on your computer, dear?
  3. +6
    21 May 2018 18: 00
    The Americans were not lucky with the opponents, just what, they immediately bring down. smile Some lay people.
    1. +4
      21 May 2018 18: 05
      Quote: Not bad
      The Americans were not lucky with the opponents, just what, they immediately bring down. smile Some lay people.

      You’ll be a professional here, when both Petrel and Vanguard can fly in, sail Poseidon, and at the same time send to the bottom the entire US fleet of Daggers ... and against all this, mattresses have no methods of protection for the next 10 years, or even more.
      1. 0
        21 May 2018 18: 17
        Nexus, they’re fooling you ... Have you not woken up yet? It seemed to me that this is not your role. Can fly, you want to dream up.
        1. +5
          21 May 2018 18: 29
          Buddy hi we have our own wedding here, as well as thoughts. And to be science fiction in this world, not to respect yourself. Our business is to crow for you, and there dawn, do not dawn. smileHold the sun well, no, good night.
        2. +5
          21 May 2018 18: 52
          Quote: Mayr
          Nexus, they’re fooling you ... Have you not woken up yet? It seemed to me that this is not your role. Can fly, you want to dream up.

          Dear, why should I fantasize about TMV? Earlier, we talked about unacceptable losses for the United States, now, given the new weapons, this terminology has changed to the complete destruction of the United States as a state. At the same time, who said that Petrel, Poseidon, and Vanguard can be used only in the version with YBCh?
          By the way, you guessed it, today my head is cracking wildly. Apparently magnetic storms.
          1. Cat
            +4
            21 May 2018 23: 16
            Apparently magnetic storms

            Magnetic storms are well treated with a solution of alcohol in water (well, or with a solution of water in alcohol) drinks
            1. Cat
              +2
              21 May 2018 23: 26
              This is a scientifically based fact: water molecules are confused in the Schrödinger system of equations, cry and ask for mom. Alcohol molecules help them Yes
            2. +2
              21 May 2018 23: 35
              Quote: Gato
              Magnetic storms are well treated with a solution of alcohol in water (well, or with a solution of water in alcohol)

              Thank you, but that doesn't help me. Coffee for an hour or two helps, and then all over again. I have been living like that since 20 years. Intense chess tournaments and a triple concussion also have an effect. This is intracranial pressure with all the consequences. hi
              1. +1
                22 May 2018 09: 26
                Intense chess tournaments and a triple concussion also have an effect.
                Wow, I thought chess was the calmest game. not a couple of boxing. It turns out that you can grab a board three times on a tower. You had funny opponents. wassat
  4. +2
    21 May 2018 18: 00
    We do not have time in the arms race, we have not yet learned how to shoot this one, they are making a new one
    1. +5
      21 May 2018 18: 02
      Quote: Imobile
      We do not have time in the arms race, we have not yet learned how to shoot this one, they are making a new one

      laughing drinks
    2. +2
      21 May 2018 18: 15
      Actually, the S-400 missile with a range of 400 km was made for such aircraft. She will not shoot at fighters. And it’s easier for us if they make a better plane, which takes a huge amount of time and money, we just make a rocket with a range of 600 km, for example) That's all.
      1. +1
        21 May 2018 18: 23
        As far as I know, there will be anti-missiles on new US planes
        1. +4
          21 May 2018 18: 35
          Quote: Imobile
          on new US planes, there will be missiles


          not ... there will be a stalk from the shovel in the stern as on the first IL 2 .. well, or a fighting Negro (Tuman ^^ - this is still not a manifestation of racism) with a machine gun ..
        2. +1
          21 May 2018 18: 38
          Quote: Imobile
          As far as I know, there will be anti-missiles on new US planes

          And then we will put anti-missiles on anti-missiles :). Do not worry.
        3. +2
          21 May 2018 18: 54
          Quote: Imobile
          As far as I know, there will be anti-missiles on new US planes

          Will there be anti-missiles? Hmm ... for example, the Shell-SM will be capable of firing hyperspeed missiles at a range of at least 40 km (there is an opinion up to 60 km) and I’m interested to know what kind of anti-missile will be to intercept a hypersonic target?
          1. 0
            21 May 2018 21: 13
            the cuddle they said will fight back
            1. +2
              21 May 2018 21: 26
              Quote: Charik
              the cuddle they said will fight back

              I believe in the Holy Lazyr ...
              1. Cat
                +2
                21 May 2018 23: 13
                It was our ... uh .. buoy
  5. +1
    21 May 2018 18: 01
    “Give money, give money, give money, yes more!” - the key words in any speech! !! wassat
  6. 0
    21 May 2018 18: 09
    untwisted them to the arms race ...
  7. +3
    21 May 2018 18: 16
    God be with them, ami, Pacific Rivers on the occasion of You !!!!
  8. +2
    21 May 2018 18: 18
    Today is TOFA day! Hurray !!!
    1. +2
      21 May 2018 18: 34
      As I understand it, there is no such thing on the site. hi
  9. 0
    21 May 2018 18: 31
    It would be interesting to see how Americans see a new concept instead of JSTARS airplanes. And so ... only the initial amount of the new program is known and that’s all. But I don’t think it will be a plane with a more powerful radar. Rather, a network of sensors.
  10. 0
    21 May 2018 18: 32
    The Americans arrived.
    A-100 is already on the wing and even rumored to be hiding this bird like a bull sheep.
    Target Detection Range:
    - aircraft - up to 600 km (?)
    - ships - up to 400 km (?)
    http://militaryrussia.ru/blog/topic-564.htm
  11. Cat
    +5
    21 May 2018 18: 55
    Quote: vorobey
    Serge ... we can

    There is a small joke about this:
    "- Comrade Private, here’s a brick for you. You’re obliged to bring down an enemy plane!
    “Dragging the ensign, but how can I bring down an airplane with a brick?” 111
    “But you are a Komsomol member!”
    Private breaks a brick on his head and yells:
    - I'll hit two planes !!
    "
  12. 0
    21 May 2018 18: 55
    Give me money, huh !!!
  13. 0
    21 May 2018 19: 07
    Money is knocked out. It is clear that the UAV will be put into the furnace first. If they feel at ease, then the rest will catch up.
  14. 0
    21 May 2018 19: 43
    It is necessary to realize the idea of ​​Stalin: "air is earth."
    Why should our "friends" fly somewhere, develop radars, spend money on fuel? winked
  15. +2
    21 May 2018 21: 58
    Quote: vorobey
    Quote: NEXUS
    UV ... DB ...


    and I would play along ... would impose a sanction ban on the Boeing to use titanium alloys purchased in Russia in military orders lol lol

    Correctly. Deny. And let them buy from the Chinese. What for we generally need a titanium industry. Probably not enough for their planes. After all, they are being released in gigantic parties. 5 pieces per year ....

    Quote: Alexey N
    The Americans arrived.
    A-100 is already on the wing and even rumored to be hiding this bird like a bull sheep.
    Target Detection Range:
    - aircraft - up to 600 km (?)
    - ships - up to 400 km (?)
    http://militaryrussia.ru/blog/topic-564.htm

    Do not confuse "God's gift with fried eggs." The A-100 is a DRLOiU (air operations control) aircraft, while the Americans are talking about a ground operations control aircraft.

    Quote: Thunderbolt
    It would be interesting to see how Americans see a new concept instead of JSTARS airplanes. And so ... only the initial amount of the new program is known and that’s all. But I don’t think it will be a plane with a more powerful radar. Rather, a network of sensors.

    You're right. The new one will probably not be worse.
    This is our comrades, don’t feed bread, let me shame over the Americans. About, and most often without a reason

    Well, comrades? Sickened up?
    Now turn on what is called the brain and think about how this program will turn out for us. And do not count other people's money. This is their problem.
    Right now, the Americans have a plane to control ground combat. With a flight range of almost 11 thousand kilometers. Equipped with a radar that detects targets on the ground at a distance of 250 km. Built 20 pieces. In operation since 1996. And they want to replace him. We can definitely say that the radar will be more "long-range", so as not to enter the affected zone of Russian air defense systems unnecessarily. Perhaps the patrol time will increase.

    What do we have? already FOUR such air command post IL-80. Without radar (from the word at all). With a range already in THREE THOUSAND SIX HUNDRED KILOMETERS against the American 11 thousand. We have been operating since 1992 and something is not even heard that there were any steps to replace this machine with another.
    We have more TWO VKP based on IL-76 (IL-82) with a flight range of 6800 km. Again without a radar. He generally operated since 1987.

    Total six versus twenty. And we are gossiping .... We will throw everyone with their hats. We’ll knock everyone down with a missile, which is not yet in service, but will already knock down ....
  16. Cat
    +2
    21 May 2018 23: 10
    Quote: Machete
    Give me money, huh?

    Why do you need money, Shura? (WITH)
  17. 0
    22 May 2018 04: 04
    And here some recently threw me at me when he said that all these American AWACS systems are good against third world countries, and that in the event of a military conflict with Russia they will not last long or will hardly be used at all. The same SU-35S is capable of knocking it down with a long-range missile before AWACS can see it and point it at it
    1. 0
      22 May 2018 04: 47
      It would be nice if that would be so. In fact, it’s completely different.
  18. 0
    22 May 2018 10: 16
    Throw in hats! beat us down if, without cover, they tuck themselves into Moscow ....

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