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Construction of the century: a project that eclipses the Crimean Bridge

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So, after almost 3, the Crimean Bridge was put into operation, the construction of which was followed by the whole country. The whole world reacted to the opening of a new strategic transport facility. Up to 15 thousands of engineers, builders and other specialists were involved in the construction. However, Russia will not limit itself to just one bridge.


First of all, we are talking about the design of the shipping channel that will connect the Black Sea with the Caspian Sea. The neighboring Kazakhstan, as well as other Caspian littoral states, is extremely interested in its implementation, because in this case they will get access to the World Ocean.

According to preliminary estimates, if a decision is made to build a canal, which, by the way, can be called Eurasia, huge financial, industrial and human resources will be needed to implement it. The economy will be involved in such areas as mechanical engineering, metal and woodworking, shipbuilding, etc.

Moreover, the construction of such an object will require a significant modernization of railways and highways.

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  1. NEOZ
    NEOZ 21 May 2018 15: 55
    +1
    why not through Iran?
    1. NEXUS
      NEXUS 21 May 2018 16: 24
      +2
      Quote: NEOZ
      why not through Iran?

      There is such a project through Iran ...

      But ... Experts, evaluating the project at that time, found extremely many intractable problems: even if the distance between the Caspian and the Persian Gulf is 2 thousand km, the potential channel route should cross mountains and lowlands, as well as deserts. Even the most “economical” version of the canal will be estimated at tens of billions of dollars, and at the same time a lot of questions arise about ecology, land use, where to relocate people from the canal’s route, etc. etc.
      That is, there is still a need to see how much the benefits of the construction will cover all the problems with the construction of this canal.
      As for the Eurasian Channel, there are initially more pros than cons.
      1. GDP
        GDP 13 June 2018 12: 41
        0
        Of course, the benefits from both channels would be enormous ... But, not with our capabilities and not now. We can’t pull the channel through Iran — mountains, deserts, wild resources, and we won’t control it. Why do we need such a risk? A canal through the North Caucasus is a more realistic project, the Kumo - Manic lowland used to unite the Caspian and Black Seas there is a system of reservoirs, and it will not be so difficult to build a canal there. We will control the channel. There will be undoubted benefit from it. Question - why? and whose money? And is it worth the money? My opinion is that it is necessary to build, but only together with other countries (China, Kazakhstan) and after the project of the expressway from China to Europe is implemented, and only through Russia ... For now, in my opinion, the Volga-Don Canal is enough for us in conditions of sanctions, without the participation of capital from the outside - do not bother with this ...
      2. Best wishes
        Best wishes 15 June 2018 14: 39
        +1
        Waldemara has a roof that goes UT MANIA of greatness, guys, snakes, think about people
  2. Simon
    Simon 21 May 2018 15: 57
    +2
    Good idea, only in what place will it be built? Volgo-Don already exists, only its throughput is not enough. If only to increase its throughput.
    1. Vladimir 5
      Vladimir 5 21 May 2018 20: 34
      +12
      An idea is not needed for Russia, there is a Volga-Don with the unforgettable Leader built, and now it’s almost empty ... What are you going to carry, for the container ships the river-sea needs a large channel, and goods from Central Asia besides fruit what else to offer to carry (for hydrocarbons pipes without competition) .. The project payback is clearly minus ... On the territory of the Russian Federation there are many necessary large bridges and highways through the main rivers, as the European part, but they are more needed in the Siberian and Far Eastern ... And here again they want to build a huge bridge or canal, as in Vladivostok, nowhere on an empty island ...
      1. ProkletyiPirat
        ProkletyiPirat 22 May 2018 20: 45
        +1
        The problem is not what to carry, but how to carry? half a year to not work, and the second half of the year to work intermittently? but who needs such shipping then? Therefore, in the conditions of the Russian Federation, it is necessary to build deep-sea ports and railways. In the same south (World Cup), we do not have a single normal port. Some can work only for oil, others can not work all year round, others do not pass through the draft, and others are on infrastructure. And the trouble is that several mistakes were made in planning the development of the Black Sea cities, which led to their stagnation in terms of long-term development. You can fix it, only for this you need by the money also the will of the leadership. After all, only strong will will allow to demolish a bunch of houses, monuments, cemeteries, only strong will will allow slammers to give speculators, corrupt officials and cunning assailants, in general, many difficult decisions need to be made to make room for ports, warehouses, factories, etc. in order to give an impetus to further development.
    2. Sotskiy
      Sotskiy 23 May 2018 10: 07
      0
      Quote: Simon
      If only to increase its throughput

      Yeah, across the Moscow River!
  3. Simon
    Simon 21 May 2018 16: 01
    0
    Quote: NEOZ
    why not through Iran?

    All the money in Russia will remain, but through Iran - there the earth's surface is mountainous, and in some places a desert. request
  4. Rebus
    Rebus 21 May 2018 16: 06
    +5
    In fact, such a channel has existed since the 50s, it is a Volga-Don channel.
    1. thinker
      thinker 21 May 2018 19: 31
      +2
      Putin said so - "I suggest that the Government also work out the issue of creating an international consortium on the construction of the second line of the Volga-Don Canal. "

      http://www.vil21.ru/1296646609.php
  5. New Year day
    New Year day 21 May 2018 16: 12
    +2
    rivers back again?
    1. Observer2014
      Observer2014 21 May 2018 19: 36
      +8
      New Year day (Sylvester)
      rivers back again?
      No, the rivers have nothing to do with it at all. It’s different. Vague doubts about Nazarbayev creep in. He was wandering to America here. What would he suggest this project for? feel I don’t believe him. Maybe Russia’s hands are preparing the way to the Black Sea. And nobody canceled the collapse of Russia in America.
      1. New Year day
        New Year day 21 May 2018 22: 10
        +10
        Quote: Observer2014
        Vague doubts creep in about Nazarbayev

        here I agree! Nazarbayev becomes like a Bulgarian president; everything strives for someone else to drive.
        And on a fig to us this philharmonic?
        1. Best wishes
          Best wishes 15 June 2018 14: 55
          +1
          Unfortunately you will not be asked, Waldemaru will be given a paw and everything, you hold on, just money
      2. BazarbaiKZ Bazarov
        BazarbaiKZ Bazarov 22 May 2018 18: 42
        +4
        The same garbage, the elif channel to dig, then the transit from China will go mainly through Nazika and through Russia a little, it’s profitable for the current, but they do not write to them in Latin, now Americans are friends of brothers and comrades
        1. Aronych
          Aronych 22 May 2018 20: 41
          +1
          and they wrote in Cyrillic, did you “understand” a lot?)))
  6. populist
    populist 21 May 2018 16: 28
    +3
    According to preliminary estimates, if a decision is made to build a canal, which, by the way, can be called Eurasia, huge financial, industrial and human resources will be required for its implementation.

    Do we need him? belay
    Where is the business case. Or is it another panama at a kind of stadium? recourse
    1. The centurion
      The centurion 21 May 2018 17: 43
      +4
      Quote: populist
      Do we need him?

      God forbid we go crazy
      Better staff and sou
      In the old days, we personally went crazy.
      And now the service has information crazy
      Calling progress is indecent.

      A.S. Pushkin
    2. Captain Pushkin
      Captain Pushkin 21 May 2018 18: 40
      +4
      Quote: populist
      According to preliminary estimates, if a decision is made to build a canal, which, by the way, can be called Eurasia, huge financial, industrial and human resources will be required for its implementation.

      Do we need him? belay
      Where is the business case. Or is it another panama at a kind of stadium? recourse

      There the payback period is 20 years; Kazakhstan needs it and all the gingerbreads for it. We need him as a dog’s fifth leg. Russia is offered to finance this venture, then crawl to the side and shut up when NATO develops new logistics with Kazakhstan.
      1. badens1111
        badens1111 22 May 2018 08: 54
        +3
        Quote: Captain Pushkin
        then crawl to the side and shut up when NATO is developing new logistics with Kazakhstan.

        It’s interesting ... A channel across the territory of the Russian Federation, and some kind of NATO and the USA, supposedly will calmly go on it? Do you even understand the whole voidness of your statement?
        Well, it’s clear when all kinds of Greens are different, the tails lifted up and started to howl about ecology and other things blah blah blah, and here they also took care of the mythical “free” passage for Americans ...
        At one time, the same Green and rot-headed intellectuals cut off a project to transfer 5% of the flow of Siberian rivers to Middle Asia, a purely Amerian provocation, with Academician Yablokov in the title role.
        Again to the tune of "friends", what the ... and it’s time to send to the museum to dance, are you planning?
        Consider the economic benefits of the proposed channel, with the transshipment of goods from Central Asia to Europe, you can understand something .. just in case, take a curvimeter and calculate how much the path is shortened instead of Suez or in general around Africa to Europe ...
        1. gozmosZh
          gozmosZh 27 May 2018 13: 10
          +1
          for a NATO base in Kazakhstan, equipment can also be transported under the flag of Kazakhstan or Panama.
          think first - then speak!
          1. badens1111
            badens1111 27 May 2018 14: 00
            0
            Quote: gozmosZh
            for a NATO base in Kazakhstan, equipment can also be transported under the flag of Kazakhstan or Panama.
            Only through customs inspection and only that which does not threaten the interests of the Russian Federation.
    3. konstantin68
      konstantin68 21 May 2018 19: 43
      +1
      And why does he really need Russia?
  7. Simon
    Simon 21 May 2018 17: 24
    +2
    Quote: Rebus
    In fact, such a channel has existed since the 50s, it is a Volga-Don channel.

    Its capacity is only small, you need to expand!
    1. Rebus
      Rebus 21 May 2018 19: 29
      0
      It seems they were going to build a second line of the channel, the project was still in the days of the USSR.
  8. faridg7
    faridg7 21 May 2018 17: 42
    +4
    Neighboring Kazakhstan, as well as other littoral states are extremely interested in its implementation, because in this case they will get access to the World Ocean.

    Yeah, Kazakhstan is interested, but nothing that the Kazakhs gave the go-ahead to two NATO bases on the Caspian Sea? First, the base, then the channel, and then be kind enough to let our ships pass to our bases in your territories.
    1. Cossack 471
      Cossack 471 21 May 2018 19: 34
      +5
      The rake was cooked for us again. Remember the PURPOSE. this money would be invested in the Russian non-black soil ....
    2. kuz363
      kuz363 12 June 2018 12: 09
      +1
      Well what are you howling! Where did you find NATO bases? Why were they silent when the same goods were delivered to Afghanistan through Ulyanovsk until 2014? The usual transportation of non-military goods in wagons by rail. With transshipment through the ports of Aktau and Kuryk. And the wagons are transported by sea ferries such as Mercury from Baku. They have been working for a long time. By the way, they promised the Americans a long time since 2010 about this path. Even Ukraine had nothing to do with it then.
      1. faridg7
        faridg7 12 June 2018 13: 38
        0
        Quote: kuz363
        Why were they silent when the same goods were delivered to Afghanistan through Ulyanovsk until 2014? The usual transportation of non-military goods in wagons by rail. With transshipment through the ports of Aktau and Kuryk. And the wagons are transported by sea ferries such as Mercury from Baku. They have been working for a long time. By the way, they promised the Americans a long time since 2010 about this path. Even Ukraine had nothing to do with it then.

        Yes, I was always outraged by the presence of NATO cargo traffic on our territory, as well as the provision of our aviation for their transportation. It’s hard to imagine more delirium and betrayal
        1. Victor N
          Victor N 14 June 2018 07: 54
          0
          Is it really better to carry your troops and cargo to Afghanistan ?!
          1. faridg7
            faridg7 14 June 2018 14: 34
            0
            It’s better to carry your cargo and your troops across your territory than to watch the troops or cargo of your enemy moving across your territory. As for Afghanistan, it is possible the withdrawal of troops from Afghanistan was a fatal mistake of the Soviet leadership. It might not have been worth it once to send troops into Afghanistan, but to throw the young republic to the mercy was just a betrayal, meanness
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    2. serezhasoldatow
      serezhasoldatow 22 May 2018 12: 13
      0
      I support! What is the idea that history is everything ...
    3. Aronych
      Aronych 22 May 2018 20: 45
      0
      tse garna idea!) I categorically support)
  10. akims
    akims 21 May 2018 22: 28
    +1
    Nazarbayev did not set much and not a little goal - to make Kazakhstan a leader in high-tech production. Our him is now building closed-loop factories. And for the sale of products we need a developed transport system. There that very much can be. Not themselves, of course, but there are Chinese ...
  11. Vadim Sh.
    Vadim Sh. 22 May 2018 08: 42
    -1
    If so, then one sea will be more.
  12. kig
    kig 22 May 2018 13: 31
    +2
    Let’s stop at the “mainland-Sakhalin-Japan bridge” option. What do we need some kind of channel?
    1. ICT
      ICT 22 May 2018 16: 41
      +1
      the mainland - the tunnel - Sakhalin - and there is absolutely us
  13. Humpty
    Humpty 22 May 2018 15: 29
    +1
    How many such irrigation ditches of the earth will spoil? And what is the great need for it? What prevents the rafting of the Irtysh? The sea there is not so warm, but it’s easy for anyone ... The Greeks from Bactria (Afghanistan) sailed to the Caucasus, while the Amu Darya flowed into the Caspian and nothing.
    1. NF68
      NF68 22 May 2018 16: 44
      0
      What prevents the rafting of the Irtysh?


      The Irtysh almost always gets shallow in the summer.
  14. misti1973
    misti1973 22 May 2018 17: 09
    +2
    Better lift to the moon! What is the difference that nobody needs? The main thing is that "the whole world will pay attention", and our officials will replenish their pockets.
    1. your1970
      your1970 25 May 2018 08: 59
      +1
      Quote: misti1973
      Better lift to the moon! What is the difference that nobody needs? The main thing is that "the whole world will pay attention", and our officials will replenish their pockets.
      - turn on the brain, don’t? Kazakhstan and Nazarbayev want this channel !! And China wants it very much
      1. Alexey Ivanov_2
        Alexey Ivanov_2 2 June 2018 18: 48
        +2
        Try to turn on the brain itself! And for Russia, why are these Wishlist ??? This channel is just to the detriment of Russia, Russia cannot control it. This channel is just intended to bypass Russia.
        What prevents China from transporting goods by rail to our ports on the Black Sea ???
  15. BABA SHURA
    BABA SHURA 22 May 2018 21: 03
    +1
    Aral ended, the time has come for the Caspian ...
  16. core
    core 23 May 2018 11: 26
    +3
    what for? we have so few high-quality arable lands, and here the canal is some sort of the best agricultural land. the earth gathered to dig, and even in a dead end sea. "Turkish impasse" has not been canceled.
    1. Vadim237
      Vadim237 24 May 2018 12: 21
      +3
      Russia will not deal with it - since this project will bring only disadvantages, and the cost of it will be trillions of rubles.
      1. spokoyni
        spokoyni 5 June 2018 19: 14
        0
        What are the arable lands in Manych? You're delusional? There are salt marshes, especially since there used to be a natural strait in the Caspian.
      2. Best wishes
        Best wishes 15 June 2018 15: 33
        0
        Spit, Waldemaru needs him to fit into history, how great ...
  17. 16112014nk
    16112014nk 24 May 2018 17: 28
    +3
    Wishbones of Elbasy are very suspicious.
    "This is not a gift to us, nor is it a gift." ©
  18. Jerk
    Jerk 25 May 2018 10: 51
    +4
    Drive with a piece of iron, through Russia - to Sevastopol feel This is for us - it is profitable for us, and what is beneficial for Kazakhstan is of little interest
  19. Alexey Ivanov_2
    Alexey Ivanov_2 2 June 2018 18: 44
    +2
    Why does Russia need this channel? We have the Volga-Don Canal, it is under our full control. Another thing is that it must be expanded and deepened, if necessary, of course. And Kazakhstan needs a new channel in order to let the American fleet go with itself to the ports. Do we need this? Talking about building a canal through Iran is out of unscientific fiction. Although there it is quite possible to lay a railway from Russia, through Azerbaijan and Iran to the Red Sea. Moreover, part of this already exists. That's just not clear. and why will we carry it in such a volume that everything will pay off ??? The same question about the tunnel to Sakhalin. What for? What shall we carry ???
    1. spokoyni
      spokoyni 5 June 2018 19: 13
      0
      There only river vessels can go. The channel along Manych will allow large sea vessels to enter the Caspian without any problems. It is very good.
      1. Best wishes
        Best wishes 15 June 2018 15: 35
        0
        Who is good for you?
    2. kuz363
      kuz363 12 June 2018 12: 11
      0
      What a stupid thing! What, Russia will pass American ships through a channel on its territory?
  20. spokoyni
    spokoyni 5 June 2018 19: 11
    0
    Why build through the Volga-Don if there are no problems in the Kumo-Manych depression cost. Rivers are not needed, water will flow into the Caspian by gravity. So it is through Iran. There only in one place you need to go around the mountain. Kadato wanted to solve this problem with the help of nuclear explosions. But now everything is solved without a vigorous infection. Do not forget that the Caspian is in the pit.
  21. nnz226
    nnz226 11 June 2018 15: 05
    0
    Any whim, but EVERYTHING pays for Kazakhstan. From Russia, only the territory, the project, equipment and workers, again for the money of Kazakhstan!
    1. kuz363
      kuz363 12 June 2018 12: 14
      +1
      Then whose channel will eventually be? Kazakh in a foreign territory or Russian for free money? How to cooperate with Russia on Baikonur has long been known. Constantly disrupted the project deadlines for the launch pad for Kazakhstan and bred for money.
  22. Victor N
    Victor N 14 June 2018 07: 42
    +1
    You can’t even discuss stupidity with the channel!
    The first argument cited is interest in the project of Kazakhstan and the Caspian littoral states. Not RUSSIA, and this is the decisive argument AGAINST.
  23. LeftPers
    LeftPers 14 June 2018 11: 06
    +1
    I don’t understand, why do we need this ?, fertile lands will be ruined, and in general, Kazakhstan will increasingly look towards p-ndo-sii, and will we go out to the oceans?
  24. Normal ok
    Normal ok 16 June 2018 13: 35
    0
    The idea seems to be inspired by the Ostapovsky New Vasyuki.