The project "Dnepr" revive without the participation of Ukraine

Russia plans to return to using the Satan ICBM to launch spacecraft, reviving the Dnepr project without the participation of Ukrainian enterprises, reports RIA News.

According to an agency source in the rocket and space industry, the Ministry of Defense will soon begin to utilize Voyevod’s missiles (according to the NATO classification Satan), which will be replaced by the Sarmat ICBM.

Consideration is being given to the use of RS-20В missiles removed from combat duty under the conversion program of launches,

said the source.

He noted that we are talking about upgrading for space launches, "namely the PC-20В version, and not the PC-20B, which were previously used in the Dnepr project". At the same time, the Ukrainian side will not be involved in the project implementation (responsible for the missile control system).

According to the 2017 year, the 46 RS-20В missiles were in service. The PC-20B rocket left around 11 units.

There is no economic expediency in adapting the RS-20B for space launches due to the small number of remaining missiles, and the presence of about fifty RS-20B rockets suggests such expediency

added source.

Recall, until recently, the Dnepr launch vehicle, based on the RS-20B ICBM, was in operation. In total, between 1999 and 2015, the year 22 was committed, of which 21 was successful. Modernization of RS-20B missiles developed in Dnepropetrovsk (Ukraine) into the Dnepr launch vehicle was carried out by Kosmotras company. The launches were carried out from the Baikonur cosmodrome and from the Clear. The last launch was done in 2015.

Comments

[210ox]

And what kind of site is Clear?

[bouncyhunter]

Hello Dima !

Yasny is a Russian spaceport located on the territory of the Dombarovsky Strategic Missile Forces positional area in the Yasnensky District of the Orenburg Region of Russia. It was used to launch spacecraft through the Dnepr launch vehicles. The Cosmodrome operator is Cosmotras international company.

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[ANCIENT]

Pasha, hi With the first sunday of you this week !!!

[bouncyhunter]

Mutually, Vitalyevich!

Quote: ANCIENT

With the first sunday of you this week

Do not believe it - it will be the last.
And about the Dnieper: everything is better than just cutting metal.

[Shurik70]

"According to 2017 data, 46 RS-20V missiles were in service. About 20 units remained of the RS-11B missiles"
Perfectly! Just GLONASS will be brought to a level higher than JPS

By 2020, GLONASS positioning accuracy is planned to be increased to 0,6 meters, with a further increase to 10 cm

And the “first Sunday of this week” sounds more optimistic than the “last”.

[bouncyhunter]

And I'm not a pessimist, Alexander.

[Lelek]

Quote: Shurik70

Perfectly! Just GLONASS will be brought to a level higher than JPS

It can be used not only for GLONASS "update", but also for the implementation of the satellite "Internet coverage" project of previously inaccessible areas of the Earth. The project is already in development.

[Alex20042004]

Yes, and there was a wonderful military airfield in Dombarovka.

[bouncyhunter]

Quote: Alex20042004

was

And now safely overgrown with grass?

[Piramidon]

Quote: 210ox

And what kind of site is Clear?

Launch base "Clear"
http://www.kosmotras.ru/yasniy/

[Grandfather Makar]

Quote: Piramidon

Launch base "Clear"

There are still a lot of missile mines left with Satan on duty .. I destroyed half of the EBN (or rather, it seems, they were blown up and plundered, but it’s still gut! Oh guys, you can’t imagine what was happening here in the early 90's as I remember the tears as if mom passed, how much was simply destroyed and plundered .. And the soldiers were starving and they were collecting food all over the world .. It was horrible! Scum liberal, I remember everything

[Krasnoyarsk]

Quote: Ded-Makar

Quote: Piramidon

Launch base "Clear"

There are still a lot of missile mines left with Satan on duty .. I destroyed half of the EBN (or rather, it seems, they were blown up and plundered, but it’s still gut! Oh guys, you can’t imagine what was happening here in the early 90's as I remember the tears as if mom passed, how much was simply destroyed and plundered .. And the soldiers were starving and they were collecting food all over the world .. It was horrible! Scum liberal, I remember everything

And then it started hunchbacked. How much work was invested, and mine too, 3 defense belts, 3,4 and 9 missile areas. I went, in the late 80s, looked ... Eh. In general, you understand.

[Separ DNR]

About the possibilities of Ukraine specifically in the rocket and space industry and generally about the possibility of its "flight" ...
«
Morkva on the Town, / At the Bjola Garden. /
Toad in the swamps / Krila has blossomed. /
Want to fly, / Quietly even “Kwa!” /
Take Heaven to the Sky / Not Yes Moscow.
Know, know the tricks / Oaths MOSCOW CITIES /
Those who have a repeat / Zhabi are kings. /
Scho having thrown a krill, / Mov of greens ptah /
The whole day soared b / Toad in the sky. /
What could I have done? / Get to the point, /
Having adjusted Literary / Toad the green God. /
There is a trimmer, / Tighten to grass. /
Toad certainly know - / That is the hand of Moscow. /
Fingers climbed in, / They took Yak. /
I trim for an egg / Toad MOSCOW CITIES… /
It seems that you don’t need it. / Say: "Ti feces." /
Ale look into the sky / Toad is all one. /
I want to pass / Qi grave hours, /
Dosi to spell / Toad MOSCOW CITIES./
Godi, ......, / Gold Moscow /
The toad has not died yet, / The toad is still alive. /
Toad Porin / In the blue far, /
Bo nemanє nini / More beautiful than toads.
»
- Andriy Gorobchuk
«
Garden, carrot / Bee in the garden /
Toad in the swamp / Wings spread /
Wants to soar / Quietly mumbles “Kwa!” /
Only soar into the sky / Moscow does not allow /
Know, know for sure / swear MOSCOW CITIES /
What's in the air kingdom / Toads - kings /
What spread your wings / Like a green bird /
Soared all day b / Toad in the sky /
Could fly / right up to the stars she /
What she flutter only / created by God /
Just holding something / Pulls to grass /
Toad knows for sure / That is the hand of Moscow /
those steel fingers / like a ring I took / /
And hold by the eggs / toad MOSCOW CITIES/
They say: “do not, / toad, you feces” /
Only looking at the sky / Toad anyway /
And let them pass / heavy hours /
Still bother / toad MOSCOW CITIES. /
Wait a minute ......., / Moscow
The toad has not died, / and is still alive /
The toad will soon take off / into the blue distance /
After all, a beautiful toad / God did not create. /

[Krasnoyarsk]

Gray, calm down, I share your position with my soul. Forgive me, I can’t do it with my body - I’m smoking the 7th sky, plus sores. So - I shake my hand. Good luck to you.

[Separ DNR]

Quote: Krasnoyarsk

Gray calm down

And I, as it were, are not nervous

[Grandfather Makar]

Quote: Krasnoyarsk

And then it started hunchbacked. How much work was invested, and mine too, 3 defense belts, 3,4 and 9 missile areas. I went, in the late 80s, looked ... Eh. In general, you understand.

I understand you like no one ...

[Sheridan]

Orenburg, a division of strategists.

[Grandfather Makar]

Quote: sheridans

Orenburg, a division of strategists.

And the tank division! In general, the guys are heroic there, from the time of Chechnya and Georgia! (Pohorenko is an example of this and Gagarin!)
Well, for the Urals men, the backbone of Russia!

[Mountain shooter]

Well of course. It's a pity to disassemble the rockets for scrap. It's ROCKET! And let her deal with her missile business ... and let VNA stand aside ...

[siberalt]

The Dnepr project can be advantageous in the Lena and the Lenin project will turn out. What liberals are scary?

[ANCIENT]

And why not just dismantle the rockets, because there are many tens of kilograms of precious metals? ?? It is possible without populism, to quietly launch a space load, to bring to mind one of the dozen previously closed projects for the creation of light and even ultralight launch vehicles!

[Separ DNR]

Quote: ANCIENT

And why not just dismantle the rockets, because there are many tens of kilograms of precious metals?

You, apparently, have something to do with the acceptance of color and precious metals? For based only on their point of view, such a missile application is advisable.

[ANCIENT]

In the days of the hunchback and yyltsan, these missiles simply stupidly blew up, setting up fireworks to please the United States! And about the "filling" of rockets, I have to do with common sense, why this unnecessary populism? Why is there no ultralight rocket for launching a light satellite, although we had a lot of such projects? ??

[MPN]

In general, launching a commercial satellite costs a lot more than precious colormet (by the way, the costs of extracting it are not small, or do you think there is a drag in one cell, color in another, etc.) ...

Quote: ANCIENT

there’s no ultralight rocket to display a light satellite,

Well, they offer you an option, today ... Or do you offer to throw out the finished one and wait ten years to wait for light carriers (which also need to be built and tested and not cheap)? In general, something seems like you were probably in the bathhouse yesterday, the beer is better, then the comments will be better ...

[nPuBaTuP]

This is the right decision ... than sawing on metal, it’s better to commercialize (well, military or extreme) cargo bullets ..

[Semenov]

About a dozen satellites will not bother us.

[siberalt]

The question is, whose companions? The platform is international.

[Separ DNR]

Quote: siberalt

The question is, whose companions? The platform is international.

Ukrainian

[Tusv]

Quote: siberalt

The question is, whose companions? belay Site is international

- The rapist! Rapist!
- I'm not a rapist, I'm a porter
- Who cares? All the same, slander!
You can beat the enemy peacefully The same mask will have to increase the start to 200 megabytes

[san4es]

The most complete and structured about the characteristics and history of the creation of the rocket is stated on rbase.new-factoria.ru. It turns out that both the RS-20V and the mines for it were made according to the principle of preliminary assembly, that is, the missile was assembled (along with the launch capsule around it) right at the factory, until the stage of 100% readiness; when transporting to the dislocation area, it did not have only fuel and warheads. The mine structures were also assembled in advance, and then quickly and without problems were mounted on site. From the interesting point - that the rocket would not be damaged in the mine from the seismic effects of a close nuclear strike, the launch capsule would be amortized: below, for example, stood a giant rubber chamber filled with nitrogen.

[voyaka uh]

Already tried. Then of the five tested missiles (standing on alert!), Only one was recognized as perfectly operational and ready for launch into space. Another 20 years have passed.
What is there in the mines? It’s better not to touch this junk ...

[nPuBaTuP]

as a fart in a puddle .... and provide the facts?
That's about the fact that they fly they are ..... but about what you say .... lies, lies and provocation ....

[san4es]

The most complete and structured about the characteristics and history of the creation of the rocket is stated on rbase.new-factoria.ru. It turns out that both the RS-20V and the mines for it were made according to the principle of preliminary assembly, that is, the missile was assembled (along with the launch capsule around it) right at the factory, until the stage of 100% readiness; when transporting to the dislocation area, it did not have only fuel and warheads. The mine structures were also assembled in advance, and then quickly and without problems were mounted on site. From the interesting point - that the rocket would not be damaged in the mine from the seismic effects of a close nuclear strike, the launch capsule would be amortized: below, for example, stood a giant rubber chamber filled with nitrogen.
15 May 2009 city
Preparations for the launch of the Dnieper LV (RS-20) with five RepidAi spacecraft. Baikonur Cosmodrome.

[san4es]

Sorry, the computer is buggy ... Delete a hundred clone

[Old26]

Quote: 210ox

And what kind of site is Clear?

This is the positional area of ​​the 13th division (Dombarovsky). But not everything will be so simple with the use of the Voivode, as they try to tell us here. Structurally, the RS-20V Voevoda (15A18M) differs from the RS-20B (15A18) modification

[ANCIENT]

Old26 therefore, I advise, without populism, to utilize the missiles by the method of their complete analysis!

[Old26]

Quote: Ded-Makar

Quote: Piramidon

Launch base "Clear"

There are still a lot of missile mines left with Satan on duty .. I destroyed half of the EBN (or rather, it seems, they were blown up and plundered, but it’s still gut! Oh guys, you can’t imagine what was happening here in the early 90's as I remember the tears as if mom passed, how much was simply destroyed and plundered .. And the soldiers were starving and they were collecting food all over the world .. It was horrible! Scum liberal, I remember everything

Vitalik! Well, stop carrying nonsense with a smart look. If they, as you say, “are externally blown up and plundered,” then by definition there was no nut left. Before the explosion, mine equipment was dismantled ....

Quote: ANCIENT

And why not just dismantle the rockets, because there are many tens of kilograms of precious metals? ?? It is possible without populism, to quietly launch a space load, to bring to mind one of the dozen previously closed projects for the creation of light and even ultralight launch vehicles!

And why do you think that they do not understand when dismantling? That's even from the solid fuel "Poplar" a bunch of all precious good removed

Quote: ANCIENT

In the days of the hunchback and yyltsan, these missiles simply stupidly blew up, setting up fireworks to please the United States! And about the "filling" of rockets, I have to do with common sense, why this unnecessary populism? Why is there no ultralight rocket for launching a light satellite, although we had a lot of such projects? ??

Only blew PIONEERS under Gorbachev and nothing more ... The same "Tempi-S" and "oku" disposed of ....

Quote: Tusv

You can beat the enemy in a peaceful way as well drinks. The same mask will have to be increased to 200 megabytes hi start

It is possible in other ways. But the mask does not need to be increased. The output of a kilogram of cargo on his "nine" costs about $ 2703, as well as on the "Dnieper". Here are just "Dnepr" displays on LEO 3,7 tons, and the "nine" 22,8 tons. And he has serial starts, but we have piece ...

Quote: san4es

It turns out that both the RS-20V and the mines for it were made according to the principle of preliminary assembly, that is, the missile was assembled (along with the launch capsule around it) right at the factory, until the stage of 100% readiness; when transporting to the dislocation area, it did not have only fuel and warheads. The mine structures were also assembled in advance, and then quickly and without problems were mounted on site.

and with other missiles done differently? Especially in those that are launched from TPK?

[Old26]

Quote: ANCIENT

Old26 therefore, I advise, without populism, to utilize the missiles by the method of their complete analysis!

Correctly offer. In particular, now converting Voevoda into a space carrier - it will cost a lot of money. In addition, field supervision will already be carried out not by the manufacturer, but the one that was appointed ...

[Old26]

Quote: siberalt

The Dnepr project can be advantageous in the Lena and the Lenin project will turn out. What liberals are scary?

And what doesn’t suit you the name of the Voevoda ICBM redesign project that he received? Another question is how costly it will be to remodel the Voevody (R-36M2) into a conversion missile in comparison with the alteration of the R-36M UTTKh, as a result of which it became the "Dnepr" project

[Normal ok]

The project "Dnepr" revive without the participation of Ukraine

Is that for their own needs. Since no foreign commerce will subscribe to this. And for their own needs, their excess. This means that other missile projects will have to be moved.

[Old26]

Quote: Normal ok

The project "Dnepr" revive without the participation of Ukraine

Is that for their own needs. Since no foreign commerce will subscribe to this. And for their own needs, their excess. This means that other missile projects will have to be moved.

Not a single Voyevoda rocket has been converted into a carrier yet. There is only a project, and how it will be implemented - HZ. In any case, the lack of supervision is not the best way to attract foreigners.

[Alecsandr]

When Dnepr was launched together with Ukraine, it flew like a clock. This is from the Yasny launch base and when they tried to launch something from Baikonur themselves unsettled. The start was considered unsuccessful and this leads to some thoughts. It is a pity and such a project was a joint promise, but then a mess began in Ukraine and all the pots on the floor.

[Suhow]

well-founded decision.