Donbass own weapon

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In Donetsk, on Victory Day, an exhibition of weapons manufactured in the Donetsk People's Republic (DPR) and not previously shown to the general public was held. The great interest among the townspeople and guests was caused by the participants in the festive parade. Rocket complex "Snowflake" (a combat vehicle with two 324-mm missiles with a declared range of up to 9600 meters) and rocket system of volley fire "Cheburashka" (combat vehicle with 64 guides for 217-mm missiles with a declared range of up to 9600 meters). Both of these systems are mounted on the KrAZ vehicle chassis (6x6). "The legendary complexes" Snowflake "and" Cheburashka "have already been tested in battle, bringing terror to the APU. Each of these cars has two stars on the cockpit, and each star means 10 combat trips. it weapon It was developed from 2015 of the year, and these are not prototypes, but equipment that has been participating in battles for several years, ”the military explained.

The cartoon name is ironic greetings to the Kiev press secretary of the military departments A. Lysenko. In 2015, on behalf of the National Security and Defense Council of Ukraine, he announced that the Donbass militia allegedly used a Russian heavy flamethrower "under the name ... it seems, Chebureshka or Cheburashka." The official apparently tried to recall the Russian heavy flamethrower system (TOC) Buratino.



RSZO and RK, produced by the military industrial complex of the DPR, provoked malicious comments by Ukrainian bloggers. They laughed, they say, all this is just a sham. But Kiev "sofa analysts" missed. At the exhibition, only mock rockets were actually presented, but their real counterparts at that time were carrying combat duty to protect the republic. Yes, and to the delight of children it was possible to climb on this technique and touch everything with your hands. Children, by the way, were the most grateful spectators at this exhibition.

The manufacturer of all samples presented at the exhibition indicated the "State Innovation Company" GIK DNR. In 2016, the government of the republic, by its decree, transferred several research institutes to the jurisdiction of the SEC and the Republican R & D Center, aiming at the development of dual-use products. And in 2017, by decree of the head of the republic, Alexander Zakharchenko, Donetsk and Gorlovsky machine-building plants, as well as the Donetskgormash plant, the largest mining engineering enterprise in the Donbass, were transferred to the GIK.

DPR Deputy Prime Minister Alexander Timofeev, who oversees the republic’s military-industrial complex, says:

- The systems were developed in the DPR, by our engineers, and manufactured at our facilities. We have an industrial region. If we can produce mining equipment, then why can't we produce weapons samples? During the war we made a conversion of our plants. MLRS "Cheburashka" and the Rocket Complex "Snowflake" are produced at our facilities. Multiple volley fire systems are used when firing at large areas, but if you need to destroy a local target, then there is an opportunity to work from the transport box (there is a special device) right along the front line.

The exhibition also demonstrated a defensive remotely controlled by the operator. combat module "Turel"designed to control the frontline of about 1 km. He has already passed bench tests, and now his serial production is being prepared. The development of various drones. Software for high-tech equipment is created by local engineers and IT-specialists.

Fully on the territory of the DNI produced mortars of calibers 60, 82, 120 mm and mines to them. Note that the mortar caliber 60 mm was created for "silent shooting." Shells of this caliber are in service with the NATO countries. The production of weapons of this caliber is associated with the need to put on the enemy silent counterattacks, without revealing itself. Moreover, the use of weapons of such caliber by the Minsk agreements was not specified and does not contradict them.

Consider anti-sniper rifles and pistols of our own design presented by gunsmiths of the DPR.

ASCV-12,7 "Donchanka" rifle. 12,7 caliber mm. Weight 26,2 kg. Sighting range up to 1500 m. Cartridge 12,7 × 108 mm for heavy machine gun NSV "Rock", "Kord" and DShK.

ASCV-14,5 "Donchanka" rifle. 14,5 caliber mm. Weight 27 kg. Sighting range to 1500 m. This is a very dangerous weapon. Note that the cartridge 14,5 × 114 mm is used in large-caliber machine guns CPV, various ZPU and anti-tank guns. It allows you to confidently hit enemy light armored vehicles and pose a threat even to heavy vehicles.

Anti-sniper rifle "Separatist" caliber 23 mm. Weight 44 kg. Maximum range of 3500 m. Note that 23 × 152 mm is a unitary projectile for artillery systems. Used in anti-aircraft guns 2А7 ("Shilka") and 2А14 (ZU-23-2 or "ZUshka"). Execution options: armor-piercing incendiary tracer (BZT), fragmentation incendiary (OZ), fragmental incendiary tracer (OST). Note that the main problem of such rifles is their considerable weight.

The exhibition presented gun "Oplot 3M" chambered for 9 × 18 mm PM with an 10 magazine for cartridges and submachine gun "Oplot" with a two-row magazine on 20 cartridges, as well combat knife "Glog".

Experts noted that such weapons are much inferior to products of the USSR and Russian defense-industrial complex. These are fairly simple products, and they are made "of what was found at hand." Better, of course, than self-made rockets from gas cylinders that we saw in Syria, but these are not products of a professional defense industry. Rather, the intermediate stage.

Here you can say about a kind of "arms race" between Ukraine and the republics of Donbass. Thus, in the 2016, Poroshenko announced the successful testing of the Ukrainian high-precision Alder projectile to the MLRS, which is an analogue of the charge to the old Soviet Smerch MLRS. At the same time, Ukroboronprom reported on the testing of new mortars: KBA-48М1 and М120-15 "Hammer". During the test of the latter, however, an annoying incident occurred. Only the newest 120-mm МNNXX-120 “Molot” that arrived from the Mayak plant in Kiev exploded at a combat position, destroying the entire combat crew. But the Ukrainian "defense industry", possessing the remnants of the Soviet military-industrial complex, has significant advantages compared to the military-industrial complex of the DPR, where it was necessary to begin with semi-handicraft production. We see real confirmation that this is a local defense technique.

- Ukraine does not know with whom she has contacted! Donbass is an industrial region, talented people, workers. From 2015, our enterprises, together with the design bureaus, began to develop weapons for the army of the Donetsk People's Republic. Of course, we still produce insufficient quantities of weapons, but this is only a matter of time. The rifles presented here are all workers, our servicemen use them. Also, there are mortars of Soviet weapons. All presented weapons were developed by our designers, assembled at the enterprises of the republic by our craftsmen. We specially arranged this exhibition today, so that everyone understands that Donbass not only knows how to fight, but also to make weapons. This weapon is for protection. We do not want to fight with anyone, but we will not give our land to anyone. Donbass is unbeatable! - said the head of the DNI Alexander Zakharchenko.

I have no illusions about the fact that this weapon was made specifically for destruction. And I have a good idea what 14,5-mm bullet from CPV with a human body can do. Or a large-caliber projectile, caught in the "Khrushchev". We all saw the results of the shelling of the Armed Forces of Ukraine from the RSZO miner's Gorlovka and the bombing of peaceful Donetsk. I believe that the Donetskgormash plant would be very successful in producing machinery for mining engineering. Yes, and the rest of the above enterprises DNR would find a more peaceful application. But they are forced to produce weapons to protect the independence of the republics, using all the industrial and intellectual resources. To protect the Donbass, at any cost to stop the enemy on the threshold of your own home.

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  1. +2
    21 May 2018 06: 24
    Snezhinka missile system (combat vehicle with two 324 mm missiles with a declared range of up to 9600 meters) and Cheburashka multiple launch rocket system (combat vehicle with 64 guides for 217 mm missiles with a declared range of up to 9600 meters)
    Explicit comprehension and transfer of the "Syrian" experience to the Donbass ... It remains now to establish the production of suppression stations for armored vehicles and there will be a "credit"
    1. 0
      21 May 2018 10: 21
      EW jammer for fighting UAVs and GPS is still needed ...
      Of all the presented, Cheburashka seemed especially effective and necessary ...
      Regarding rifles ... is it interesting to make trunks or remodel from damaged machine guns?
      1. 0
        21 May 2018 11: 18
        Quote: seos
        EW jammer for fighting UAVs and GPS is still needed ...

        And for ATGMs, like Sarab-1
      2. 0
        23 May 2018 09: 59
        Quote: seos
        Of all the presented, Cheburashka seemed especially effective and necessary ...

        Why such a caliber. 217mm? Or is it "cropped" 220mm from a hurricane.
        Well, it’s a little incomprehensible why this design is needed in principle, given the fact that concern for civilians and their property is above all.
        The hurricane, with its 220mm and 16 shots, covers 400 thousand / m / 2, now let's think that it will make 64 shots from one point and with a shorter guide (increased dispersion).
        1. 0
          23 May 2018 12: 48
          And the "death star" can immediately destroy the planet ..... but in the DPR it is not possible to build it ... this MLRS is on the Katyusha level, but its advantage is that it is efficient and easy to manufacture ..
  2. 0
    21 May 2018 06: 33
    I wonder what the DNI is doing now?
    1. +2
      21 May 2018 07: 14
      they both sold and sell coal.
      the question is different: why do they need homemade products? Are there problems with the north wind?
      1. +10
        21 May 2018 07: 33
        Quote: Soho
        the question is different: why do they need homemade products? Are there problems with the north wind?

        Hope for the "north", but don’t be bad yourself!
      2. +2
        21 May 2018 08: 07
        Smart, creative people always think how to do even better, use all the opportunities. And about the wind, the question is provocative.
        1. +1
          21 May 2018 11: 39
          "Smart, creative people always think ..." But not everyone follows their own right advice. True, not everyone is smart.
        2. +6
          21 May 2018 12: 29
          Reptiloid (Dmitry) Today, 08:07 ↑
          Smart, creative people always think how to do even better, use all the opportunities. And about the wind, the question is provocative.

          stupid thing. If there is a possibility of supplying weapons of industrial production, with confident characteristics and reliability, then who needs self-made guns made on the knee in a metal workshop? What are smart and creative people? Handicraft usually comes always from hopelessness when there is not what is needed.
          1. 0
            21 May 2018 13: 18
            The main feature of hamsters is that they think with a TV. Turn off the TV - a disaster, paralysis of the thought process.
      3. 0
        21 May 2018 21: 04
        Quote: Soho
        the question is different: why do they need homemade products? Are there problems with the north wind?

        North wind will not bring them the MLRS "Smerch" and "Hurricane", because, this will testify to Russia's intervention in the conflict, from which the leadership of the Russian Federation rejects all forces. And at least analogues of such systems are necessary. And the systems shown here are cheap and, I think, quite an effective replacement for Tornado and Hurricane. They, of course, are much inferior in range, but a large range of BCH is not needed yet - they need weapons to fire at the front edge and near rear.
        In fact, I was expecting the BCH to have a light MLRS like the Chinese Type-63 107 mm caliber, which is very actively used by all parties in Syria and in many other conflicts. Moreover, it is possible to establish mass production of such a system at the enterprises of Donbass without problems. But they decided not to trifle. What can I say - well done!
        1. 0
          22 May 2018 06: 10
          North wind will not bring them MLRS "Smerch" and "Hurricane", because, this will testify to Russia's intervention in the conflict, from which the leadership of the Russian Federation rejects all forces

          Dada, it turns out the T-80s do not talk about interference, but the RZSO say ... you are abusively consistent)
          1. 0
            22 May 2018 21: 01
            Quote: Soho
            North wind will not bring them MLRS "Smerch" and "Hurricane", because, this will testify to Russia's intervention in the conflict, from which the leadership of the Russian Federation rejects all forces

            Dada, it turns out the T-80s do not talk about interference, but the RZSO say ... you are abusively consistent)

            Where and when did you see the T-80? Personally, I know that in the armies of LDNR there are only T-64 and T-72.
    2. +1
      24 May 2018 15: 13
      in addition to traditional coal, the supply of Stirol products (Khimprom and medical preparations). The products of the Khartsyzsk Pipe Plant and the cable car "Silur" are in demand both in Russia (including the construction of the Crimean Bridge), as well as in Belarus, Kazakhstan, and Turkey. Deliveries to Russia - gravel and gravel for the repair of roads and bulk engineering structures. There are also military-related enterprises (Snezhnoye) related to the production of helicopter blades. After returning to the control of the DPR the rest of the territory of the former Donetsk region, heavy and medium-sized engineering, metal rolling, etc. will be added.
  3. +4
    21 May 2018 07: 45






    Welcome to Donbass!
  4. +4
    21 May 2018 10: 28

    Yes, clear progress. One feels the technological superiority of a more developed industrial region.
  5. +4
    21 May 2018 11: 06
    To put it mildly - impressive. Especially the Separatist is already a small cannon. And it is clear that the weapon is improving ... It is enough to compare the photos available in the article. Well done!
  6. +3
    21 May 2018 15: 05
    Separatist anti-sniper rifle-gun, 23 mm caliber. Weight 44 kg

    And what is its fundamental difference from a similar junto homemade product, which was laughed at once?
    1. +6
      21 May 2018 15: 14
      How can you compare the weapons of the noble elves with the miserable crafts of the evil orcs?
      1. +1
        21 May 2018 15: 22
        Quote: Curious
        How can you compare the weapons of the noble elves with the miserable crafts of the evil orcs?

        I - I can’t, I didn’t hold it in my hands, I didn’t see any reports. I look forward to hearing from those who are more in the subject. Well, the machine there is "that system" or something. Just wondering. South Africa has a rifle of the same caliber, but there is a specially designed rifle, and the DNI, as I understand it, is an improvisation.
        1. +2
          21 May 2018 15: 45
          Precisely, improvisation on the theme of PTR since the Great Patriotic War. My commentary with photos is a little higher, on the top photo there is the same improvisation of Chechen masters. The difference is determined by the production base.
          1. +1
            21 May 2018 16: 16
            Quote: Curious
            The difference is determined by the production base.

            ... and this “only” difference may turn out to be a critical point, making something sensible of improvisation. For example, "Faust cartridge".
            1. +2
              21 May 2018 16: 46
              Why exchange for trifles. You must immediately take up the "Iron Caput".
              1. +1
                21 May 2018 16: 47
                Quote: Curious
                Why exchange for trifles. You must immediately take up the "Iron Caput".

                Do not trade.
  7. 0
    21 May 2018 15: 47
    The rifle under 23x152 mm! OMG! What did they smoke when they created it?
    Although, this is not a rifle - this is a gun.
    But about the gun and PP I would like to know more.
    1. 0
      21 May 2018 16: 23
      Quote: the47th
      The rifle under 23x152 mm! OMG! What did they smoke when they created it?
      Although, this is not a rifle - this is a gun.

      They are not the first. And I think that not even the tenths. And, most likely, not the last. One of the first was South Africa: NTW-20 rifle, cartridge (or "shell") 20 × 83.5 mm MG151.
      1. +1
        21 May 2018 17: 06
        So MG151 has a muzzle energy less than 14,5 * 114 mm. And here are 90 infernal kilojoules!
        1. +1
          21 May 2018 17: 12
          Quote: the47th
          So MG151 has a muzzle energy less than 14,5 * 114 mm. And here are 90 infernal kilojoules!

          "Shield and sword." Breaked "shield" - "sword" catches up. At that time, 7,62 was considered sufficient for sniper (and counter-sniper) work. And 7,62mm PTRs were. The machine guns have the same picture. And NTW-20 was created two decades ago. A whole era, figuratively.
          And I, first of all, wanted to give examples of similar calibers, and not energy.
          1. 0
            21 May 2018 17: 22
            Cartridges of the same caliber are very different. 9 * 18 and 9 * 64 are of the same caliber, but different in their capabilities. The main thing is the overall dimensions of the cartridge and its energy. It is the energy of the cartridge that determines both the size of the cartridge and the design of the weapon.
            1. 0
              21 May 2018 17: 38
              Quote: the47th
              Cartridges of the same caliber are very different. 9 * 18 and 9 * 64 are of the same caliber, but different in their capabilities. The main thing is the overall dimensions of the cartridge and its energy. It is the energy of the cartridge that determines both the size of the cartridge and the design of the weapon.

              This is all clear. But the "inquiring mind" :) does not stand still. So power is growing. Maybe armored personnel carriers want to shoot from 2 km. Or fortifications. But you never know ...
    2. 0
      21 May 2018 16: 25
      Well, the 20-mm American, it’s also kind of like a gun, but it’s considered a screw ...
      1. 0
        21 May 2018 16: 49
        Quote: alex-cn
        Well, the 20-mm American, it’s also kind of like a gun, but it’s considered a screw ...

        Caliber is not the only sign for the border, there is still the presence / absence of a leading belt. Maybe there are some more.
        Our HP-23 is also a "shotgun". :)
    3. +2
      21 May 2018 18: 07
      Quote: the47th
      But about the gun and PP I would like to know more

      Yes ... there are questions to the gun recourse When this gun was "presented" some time ago, it was said that the weapons were bicalibrated ... that is. by replacing the barrel with a spring, it was possible to use both cartridges (9 x 18 mm PM); and cartridges (7,62 x 25 mm TT) ... An 9-mm sample was presented at the exhibition ...
    4. +1
      21 May 2018 22: 20
      In the USSR during the Vietnam War, a partisan gun was developed under 30X165 - the size was like that of an easel machine gun and the weight was comparable ... (shown on TV)
  8. +1
    21 May 2018 17: 11
    and the snowflake as in the category of rszo got?
  9. 0
    22 May 2018 10: 02
    Photo "Zakharchenko inspects an anti-sniper rifle" - Nadezhda Chicherova (dnr-online.ru) :)

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