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The first stage is completed. The floating power unit "Academician Lomonosov" arrived in Murmansk

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On Saturday, the floating nuclear power unit (FBI) "Akademik Lomonosov" arrived from the Baltic Shipyard and stood at the quay wall in Murmansk to load with nuclear fuel.


The unit was delivered to the berth of the FSUE "Atomflot", where the connection of the onshore power systems will take place and work on painting the ship will begin. In the future, at the same place, nuclear fuel will be loaded and the reactor will be physically commissioned.

The first stage is completed. The floating power unit "Academician Lomonosov" arrived in Murmansk


This is not the final point in the launch of this project, but the exit to the finish line. At the request of our foreign partners, we towed a nuclear power unit without nuclear fuel on board to Murmansk and here we will launch this unique, unique in the world mobile nuclear power unit project
- said at the ceremony, the head of the concern "Rosatom" Alexey Likhachev, reports RIA News.

The next important stage will be the relocation of the loaded PEB from Murmansk to Chukotka, to the seaport of Pevek, where the PEB will be connected to the coastal infrastructure.

The power unit will become the main part of the world's first floating nuclear thermal power plant (FNPP) and will provide the Chukotka Autonomous Okrug with electricity, thereby replacing the capacities of the technologically outdated Bilibino NPP and the Chaunskaya CHPP.

The floating power unit (FEP) "Akademik Lomonosov" of the 20870 project is the head project of a series of mobile transportable power units of low power. It is intended to work as part of a floating nuclear power plant (FNPP) and represents a new class of energy sources based on Russian nuclear shipbuilding technologies.

The station is equipped with two KLT-40С reactor installations, which are capable of generating electrical and thermal energy in a nominal operating mode, which is enough to maintain the life of a city with a population of about 100 thousand people.

FNPP has been designed with a large safety margin that exceeds all possible threats and makes nuclear reactors invulnerable to tsunamis and other natural disasters. In addition, nuclear processes on a floating power unit meet all the requirements of the IAEA and do not pose a threat to the environment.
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https://gov-murman.ru/
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  1. 501Legion
    501Legion 19 May 2018 15: 24
    +8
    impressive structure. ship the tongue does not turn to call
    1. Hire
      Hire 19 May 2018 16: 28
      +6
      Look how wonderful you have mastered the experience of supplying electricity to cities from nuclear icebreakers in the north in 90! I guess the next FNPP will go to Antarctica.
      1. Vkd dvk
        Vkd dvk 19 May 2018 16: 41
        +1
        Quote: Hire
        Look how wonderful you have mastered the experience of supplying electricity to cities from nuclear icebreakers in the north in 90! I guess the next FNPP will go to Antarctica.

        Our stations are located on the coast, thousands of kilometers apart - 4 stations, and one in the center of the continent. Laying the cable in such an environment makes stupid the device of one powerful power plant.
        1. kirgiz58
          kirgiz58 19 May 2018 18: 03
          +3
          Quote: Vkd dvk
          Our stations are located on the coast, thousands of kilometers apart - 4 stations, and one in the center of the continent.

          One definitely needs to be located on the border of the 200-mile zone of the United States in the area of ​​the Yellowstone volcano. And in the case of further unfriendly development of the situation with the “partners”, with the cries of “aaaaa! Uncontrolled chain reaction !!”, evacuate the staff and initiate a big broads. And what? Peaceful atom for the good of the world. wassat
          1. Vladimir 5
            Vladimir 5 20 May 2018 22: 43
            -1
            Kyrgyzstan58. Your comment is called acquired psychosis from continuous militarized information. If the experience is visually successful with this PEB, the sale of such floating nuclear power plants is ensured, and this is much better than undermining own power plants to the enemy’s evil ...
      2. KCA
        KCA 19 May 2018 17: 16
        +2
        Nuclear power is banned in Antarctica, even diesel-powered icebreakers are only suitable, a ban on how many thousands of miles are around
      3. Piramidon
        Piramidon 19 May 2018 21: 34
        +1
        Quote: Hire
        I guess the next FNPP will go to Antarctica.

        But where are cities in Antarctica with a population of 100 people? We are now developing the Arctic at an accelerated pace. Here such stations are needed.
      4. iaroslav.mudryi
        iaroslav.mudryi 20 May 2018 09: 28
        +2
        Quote: Hire
        Look how wonderful you have mastered the experience of supplying electricity to cities from nuclear icebreakers in the north in 90! I guess the next FNPP will go to Antarctica.


        About 20 countries are already interested in PAES. Immediate plans:
        1) Pevek Chukotka Autonomous Okrug - Lomonosov.
        2) ZATO Vilyuchinsk in Kamchatka - is planned.
        3) Republic Cape Verde (Cape Verde Islands) - at the consultation stage.
        4) Construction of gas fields on Taimyr. Possible customer of PJSC Gazprom.
        5) It is possible to operate the AFMM of this project in other countries with hard-to-reach territories - for example, Canada, Indonesia and etc.
        1. kipod
          kipod 20 May 2018 09: 35
          0
          Quote: iaroslav.mudryi
          About 20 countries are already interested in PAES

          interested - how is it?
          is there a letter of intent?
          Quote: iaroslav.mudryi
          1) Pevek of the Chukotka Autonomous Okrug - Lomonosov.
          2) ZATO Vilyuchinsk in Kamchatka - is planned.
          3) The Republic of Cape Verde (Cape Verde Islands) - at the consultation stage.
          4) Construction of gas fields in Taimyr. Possible customer of PJSC Gazprom.
          5) It is possible to operate the AFMM of this project in other countries with inaccessible territories - for example, in Canada, Indonesia, etc.

          Of all that you have written, nothing concrete is being smashed.
    2. SSR
      SSR 19 May 2018 17: 19
      +4
      Quote: 501Legion
      impressive structure. ship the tongue does not turn to call

      And this is "non-ship", the PEB does not have a propulsion system, hence the Floating Energy Block hi
    3. igor.borov775
      igor.borov775 21 May 2018 08: 50
      0
      Quote: 501Legion
      impressive structure. ship the tongue does not turn to call
      Reply

      Hi!! Gentlemen, this community will approach Pevek and then Silence. Have you ever wondered how much energy is needed in that place. This is not the USSR when the planned development of this region is behind such a project. They write everything here on the site without glancing at the holy calendar. There, the all-Russian construction of the largest energy consumers is planned. Can not hear. Look at guides on the industrial area of ​​Pevek and the number of inhabitants. I am sure you will be discouraged. One hundred thousand inhabitants is the problem of the whole of Chukotka. The problem with nuclear power plants is that 100;% load of reactor power is needed there. I would understand if Lomonosov stood in Dudinka there are energy-intensive consumers and they are nearby. The question arises about the infrastructure for transferring energy to shore. Who knows Chukotka, he imagines how much all this will result financially. While this is a huge PR-action. They write about KAMCHATKA. Gentlemen, this is a very geologically unstable area and fitting this community there is the height of irresponsibility. It is very interesting to know who justified this project. After all, this is not just nuclear power plants, for this we need very good reasons for such construction. And in the USSR, seriously, mobile mini-nuclear plants were seriously occupied. Many years were spent on research and development of the project. And most importantly, prototypes of MINI NPP were built. MINI-NPP based on Belarusian centipedes. Customers were thrilled. Ruined a good cause Chernopol. Everything was stopped construction was stopped by order of the Government of the USSR. The documentation was destroyed. Time was such a Tagged was in power. About ten years ago, fuss began with the revival of this or a similar project, but it died out. But then, developments were also going on about floating nuclear power plants, but even then it was previously temporarily there were no development plans for the north that required such a nuclear power station and a mobile one demanded that the country changed, other leaders came and they looked at everything differently.
      1. iaroslav.mudryi
        iaroslav.mudryi 21 May 2018 18: 14
        0
        Quote: igor.borov775
        Gentlemen, this community will approach Pevek and then Silence. Have you ever wondered how much energy is needed in that place ...... There, that the all-Russian construction of major energy consumers is planned. Can not hear.

        I suggest you familiarize yourself with this video, pay attention with 3: 29-3: 52


        1) Eastern Gas Program
        “Expanding the hydrocarbon resource base through the Arctic shelf of the Laptev and East Siberian seas is without a doubt a priority strategic task of the Russian Federation and is closely related to the development of transport in the Arctic. The role and importance of the country's main national Arctic transport artery will increase sharply - Northern Sea Route. The accumulated knowledge about the geological structure of the bowels of the shelf of the seas of the Eastern Arctic and the prerequisites for their oil and gas potential can count on a significant increase in the hydrocarbon potential of the Russian Federation not only in the western, but also in the still insufficiently studied eastern Arctic seas. " - from here (on page 18 the scheme of offshore fields opposite Pevek):
        http://vesti-gas.ru/sites/default/files/attachmen
        ts/vgn-2-22-2015-015-020.pdf

        2) Siberian shelf - one of the continental shelves of the Arctic Ocean, the largest continental shelf on Earth, part of the continental shelf of Russia. (p. 16 scheme of offshore deposits in the Laptev Sea, at the same link). To the west, deposits in the Kara and Barents Seas and so on, along the whole Northern Sea Route on the shore, it will be necessary to have ports, bases, airfields, in general, our points of presence, both civilian specialists and the military. This will require more than one PAES.

        Quote: igor.borov775
        While this is a huge PR-action. Here they write about KAMCHATKA.

        I absolutely agree that at this stage this is a PR campaign, that is, advertising, promoting your product, and what is wrong with that ?! Quote: "FNPPs are already interested in foreign countries. It is understandable, because a floating nuclear power plant can be towed to almost any place on Earth.
        “The demand for such energy sources in the world today is very high,” says Sergey Zavyalov. - Back in 2009-2012, I participated in signing memorandums of intent with a number of countries in Southeast Asia and the Middle East. Interest in mobile electrical heat generation is shown in Malaysia, Indonesia, Thailand, Saudi Arabia, the United Arab Emirates, Qatar, China. Representatives from these countries stated that as soon as we finish the head power unit and the first results of work are visible, they can begin cooperation with us. Therefore, the sooner we demonstrate our new technologies to the world community, the sooner we can receive orders for the commercial use of such products.
        ....... Most likely, the next FNPP will begin to be built immediately after the "reference model" has been launched. It is planned that similar stations in Russia can be used in Taimyr and Kamchatka. "


        Source: http://www.mk.ru/social/2016/09/20/atomnaya-batar
        eyka-dlya-chukotki.html

        In addition, on the coastal infrastructure of the Akademik Lomonosov PAES:
  2. Egorovich
    Egorovich 19 May 2018 15: 27
    +12
    And how many comers in the world after that will appear on these PES, the field is not plowed.
    1. bouncyhunter
      bouncyhunter 19 May 2018 16: 58
      +2
      Sasha hi And how many people want to ALREADY have to check these PEB / FNPPs for strength. yes
      1. Egorovich
        Egorovich 19 May 2018 17: 22
        +1
        Pasha, hi hi ! But it seems to me that there will be a wagon with a trailer, the main thing is that the water open spaces are nearby.
      2. KCA
        KCA 19 May 2018 17: 22
        +1
        And all of them together will rush to Pevek to feed polar bears. Something not a single atomic icebreaker has yet been tested for strength, from the "Lenin" and so far, maybe it is somehow difficult to do? I can see the IBR-3 at 2 km in my window, in 1995 or 6 they tried to check, 60 km from it 6 barmaleys were crushed without firing a shot, and JINR thought the exercises were going, instead of guards in jackets and ties, for some reason, were in camouflage uniforms, bronics, in helmets and with assault rifles, they let everyone in, they didn’t let anyone out
    2. seti
      seti 19 May 2018 17: 43
      +7
      We can only say one thing and loudly - Good luck.

      This is a very necessary and correct solution to provide our remote regions with cheap electricity. I hope that this PEB will be followed by others, which will give an impetus to the development of all distant regions.
      1. cats
        cats 19 May 2018 23: 51
        +2
        Quote: seti
        This is a very necessary and correct decision.

        Here they are, our aircraft carriers .. Like it’s not cool, but Russians are thinking about the world.
        And we’ll get a weapon by itself, in terms of flow ...
        we are so inventive .. winked
        Now to set such batteries along the shore, and cities under the domes
        set up with palm trees and artificial sun. Like on Mars.
        The climate is the same .. good
    3. Powder
      Powder 19 May 2018 17: 54
      +1
      And how much they can reproduce and do, it’s not so simple.
      Sincerely.
  3. evil partisan
    evil partisan 19 May 2018 15: 31
    +14
    This is THING !!! good Three hands FOR nuclear power! yes
    1. Dym71
      Dym71 19 May 2018 15: 38
      +15
      Quote: Angry Guerrilla
      Three hands FOR nuclear power!

      How alarming, if three! stop
      1. Dezinto
        Dezinto 19 May 2018 15: 41
        +11
        How alarming, if three!


        Yeah ..... lol

      2. evil partisan
        evil partisan 19 May 2018 15: 45
        +15
        Quote: Dym71
        How alarming, if three!

        He pulled out one hand from someone against OP. yes
        1. Dym71
          Dym71 19 May 2018 16: 07
          +3
          Quote: Angry Guerrilla
          He pulled out one hand from someone against OP.

          Clear what
          Actually, I myself am against this nuclear energy and have never been repeat
      3. poquello
        poquello 19 May 2018 15: 51
        +5
        Quote: Dym71
        Quote: Angry Guerrilla
        Three hands FOR nuclear power!

        How alarming, if three! stop

        Are you afraid that the fourth second head is scratching? don't be afraid, just figurative expression
      4. Observer2014
        Observer2014 19 May 2018 16: 13
        +5
        Dym71 (Andrei)
        How alarming, if three!
        Yeah. What can I say with fuel oil, coal is ecologically much cleaner to heat in general. And the most important thing is that it’s very easy and laid-back near such thermal power plants. laughing
        1. Dym71
          Dym71 19 May 2018 16: 22
          +4
          Quote: Observer2014
          Yeah. What can I say with fuel oil, coal is ecologically much cleaner to heat in general. And the most important thing is that it’s very easy and laid-back near such thermal power plants.

          But am I against it? For a peaceful atom! drinks

          wink
          1. Observer2014
            Observer2014 19 May 2018 18: 05
            +3
            Dym71 (Andrei)
            For a peaceful atom! drinks
            I, for a peaceful atom.
            And about your sarcasm on this occasion, I want to give you an example on the example of laying a gas pipeline along the bottom of the Black Sea. What paid wrestlers did not yell in those years. The biggest joke is that there is a lot of hydrogen sulfide at the bottom of the Black Sea. And the sea will explode when a gas leak from the pipe wassat laughing This also applies to the development of nuclear energy. Oh, how do they want Russia to not develop it. And what is an alternative? Burn black oil in the north? Or get solar panels with windmills? wassat laughing So all this is from the evil one. drinks
            1. Vkd dvk
              Vkd dvk 20 May 2018 08: 54
              0
              Quote: Observer2014
              Dym71 (Andrei)
              For a peaceful atom! drinks
              I, for a peaceful atom.
              And about your sarcasm on this occasion, I want to give you an example on the example of laying a gas pipeline along the bottom of the Black Sea. What paid wrestlers did not yell in those years. The biggest joke is that there is a lot of hydrogen sulfide at the bottom of the Black Sea. And the sea will explode when a gas leak from the pipe wassat laughing This also applies to the development of nuclear energy. Oh, how do they want Russia to not develop it. And what is an alternative? Burn black oil in the north? Or get solar panels with windmills? wassat laughing So all this is from the evil one. drinks

              A small correction. Hydrogen sulfide is itself combustible. And under certain conditions, it can rise like bubbles in a bottle of champagne upstairs. Seismic, or tsunami from the Mediterranean, will do it. There are billions of tons. Choose a gas chamber, or do we prefer to die out from acid rain? There is a project (more precisely, a project) of using bottom gas as a fuel. This hydrogen sulfide burns, of course, in a high-quality burner, it generates heat for heating cities, for the next extraction of hydrogen sulfide and generates almost free sulfuric acid for the needs of the national economy.
              1. Dashout
                Dashout 20 May 2018 09: 44
                +2
                Quote: Vkd dvk
                This hydrogen sulfide burns, of course, in a high-quality burner, it generates heat for heating cities, for the next production of hydrogen sulfide and generates almost free sulfuric acid for the needs of the national economy.

                You are tormented to dispose of sulfur. To acid and, further, to the national economy - it’s just not serious. How much will you give there? Therefore, correctly you said this project ....
                1. Vkd dvk
                  Vkd dvk 20 May 2018 16: 17
                  0
                  Quote: Dashout
                  Quote: Vkd dvk
                  This hydrogen sulfide burns, of course, in a high-quality burner, it generates heat for heating cities, for the next production of hydrogen sulfide and generates almost free sulfuric acid for the needs of the national economy.

                  You are tormented to dispose of sulfur. To acid and, further, to the national economy - it’s just not serious. How much will you give there? Therefore, correctly you said this project ....

                  I do not know how true, but they wrote that during a severe storm, it was planted in the sea with lightning. And the woman was far from lightning. The rising hydrogen sulfide exploded. And from here the projections went. No longer even energy, but to eliminate this danger. For, if you get a small broads, then who guarantees that .... With secondary energy and chemical compensations for the descent of this sword of Damocles.
                  1. Dashout
                    Dashout 20 May 2018 19: 22
                    +2
                    If this is the case .... Well, as an option: utilize robots H2S (hydrogen sulfide) in clean sulfur with the receipt of electric energy by robots, and dispose of the sulfur in solid form at the bottom (it is not dangerous).
        2. kirgiz58
          kirgiz58 19 May 2018 17: 54
          +2
          Quote: Observer2014
          . And the most important thing is very easy and laid out near such thermal power plants.

          And a small lake with a fish will appear next to it, ice-free - in the north it’s just that. good
    2. Alexey RA
      Alexey RA 19 May 2018 15: 42
      +6
      Quote: wicked partisan
      This is THING !!! good Three hands FOR nuclear power! yes

      And the rest of the limbs - against or abstained? wink
      1. evil partisan
        evil partisan 19 May 2018 15: 47
        +3
        Quote: Alexey RA
        And the rest of the limbs - against or abstained?

        The catch is understood, Colleague! wink
        But even IT'S FOR! yes
        drinks
    3. d ^ Amir
      d ^ Amir 19 May 2018 15: 49
      +2
      fourth second head scratching ????
      1. evil partisan
        evil partisan 19 May 2018 15: 53
        +4
        Quote: d ^ Amir
        scratch the second head?

        Colleague. hi
        You directly provoke me to the 6th warning ... sad
        And about the "third hand" I answered above. yes
        it will be necessary - and one more tear! am
        But seriously, nuclear power is our future. Like it or not, but it is.
        1. Dym71
          Dym71 19 May 2018 16: 08
          +2
          Quote: Angry Guerrilla
          You directly provoke me to the 6th warning ...

          No need, you are dear to us, keep yourself in control! wassat
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  4. Mavrikiy
    Mavrikiy 19 May 2018 15: 39
    0
    The first stage is completed. The floating power unit "Academician Lomonosov" arrived in Murmansk


    At least someone got down to business. Only more of them are needed. And the battle lasers there and the C300. A complex for meeting amers in high latitudes ... and this one, there are more little lights. It's boring in the north on a long winter night ...
  5. Old26
    Old26 19 May 2018 15: 43
    +3
    Quote: Egorovich
    And how many comers in the world after that will appear on these PES, the field is not plowed.

    let it work, and then we’ll talk about those who wish. And it will turn out the same way as with the container system for Caliber. They also propiarized that everyone, even a small fleet that cannot afford ships of the frigate-destroyer-cruiser class with this system, will become equal to a large fleet in power. So what? Not a single order in almost 20 years
    1. KCA
      KCA 19 May 2018 17: 25
      +2
      Or did customers want to remain anonymous? :-) For example, K begins, Eun ends :-)
    2. dvina71
      dvina71 19 May 2018 18: 44
      0
      Quote: Old26
      Not a single order in almost 20 years

      Who needs VPU "Caliber" without a "Caliber"? In addition .. from the Ministry of Defense orders to the producer have piled on.
    3. cats
      cats 19 May 2018 23: 56
      0
      Quote: Old26
      Not a single order in almost 20 years

      It feels like we were very asked not to put it on the counter ..
      Too breathtaking when you think about the possibilities
      such "boxes" ..
  6. ANCIENT
    ANCIENT 19 May 2018 15: 48
    +1
    Well, let's see what comes of this, and so the idea is good! hi
  7. san4es
    san4es 19 May 2018 16: 12
    +8
    The first floating power unit began its journey to Murmansk on Saturday, April 28. The dimensions of the PEB are comparable to the largest icebreakers in the world, length is 110 meters, width - 30 meters.
  8. yay
    yay 19 May 2018 16: 12
    0
    The thing, of course, is impressive! But I do not understand why he is needed in Chukotka? If the nuclear power plant is out of date there, then it is necessary to modernize it and build new power units.
    1. sabakina
      sabakina 19 May 2018 18: 18
      +2
      It’s just that America is nearby, across the strait. wink
    2. svd-xnumx
      svd-xnumx 19 May 2018 21: 20
      0
      The thing, of course, is impressive! But I do not understand why he is needed in Chukotka? If the nuclear power plant is out of date there, then it is necessary to modernize it and build new power units.
      For example, the Voronezh radar consumes 0.7 MW of electricity per hour, and the Dnepr eats all 2 MW, and where do you order the energy for them? And the gold mining enterprises need electricity there. And I understand the modernization of the existing nuclear power plant into the construction of new power units, which with virtually no transport infrastructure in that area, it will result in huge expenses.
  9. Cheshire
    Cheshire 19 May 2018 16: 13
    +1
    The population of Chukotka for today ... only 50 ... to relocate there ... another 000 ... marsh and bulk for example ... why should energy disappear.
    1. faiver
      faiver 19 May 2018 17: 27
      +2
      let's start with you better hi
      1. Cheshire
        Cheshire 19 May 2018 17: 36
        +1
        Late citizen Navalny ... you have a ticket to the stage ... already purchased.
        1. faiver
          faiver 19 May 2018 17: 52
          +1
          drunken eyes overlooked? laughing
          if you look at my profile and see where I live, you’ll understand that it’s useless to scare me with Chukotka laughing hi
          1. Cheshire
            Cheshire 19 May 2018 17: 56
            0
            Are you already a tama? ... ah, little man ... that’s all the Navalins would be like that.
            1. faiver
              faiver 19 May 2018 17: 59
              0
              you are monotonous ...
              1. Cheshire
                Cheshire 19 May 2018 18: 00
                0
                Hehe ... if you are tired of the monotony ... jump on one leg ... feel better.
          2. sabakina
            sabakina 19 May 2018 18: 22
            +1
            Quote: faiver
            if you look at my profile and see where I live, you’ll understand that it’s useless to scare me with Chukotka laughing hi

            I look at your profile. I don’t see a pepper. Are you a spy?
            1. faiver
              faiver 19 May 2018 18: 49
              +1
              laughing laughing , like the city used to be displayed, or messed up something, from Yakutsk I hi
              1. sabakina
                sabakina 19 May 2018 18: 52
                +1
                Clearly, understandably. I'll look at my schA. Maybe my Kostroma disappeared, but I write from heaven ... recourse
  10. 7gor
    7gor 19 May 2018 16: 19
    +2
    Well, well done, of course good
  11. sib.ataman
    sib.ataman 19 May 2018 16: 20
    +6
    And they say when GDP does not work?
  12. Old military officer
    Old military officer 19 May 2018 16: 56
    +2
    Again, Russia is ahead of the rest. And who will like it? So let them drink castor oil. Especially our eternal nuggle-saxon "friend-pals".
  13. Dead duck
    Dead duck 19 May 2018 18: 41
    +7
    nuclear fuel will be loaded and the reactor will be physically launched

    This is not the final point in the launch of this project, but the exit to the finish line

    And tests can be conducted off the coast of the United States, especially the finish. winked
    loading iron with yabch laughing
    1. Simple
      Simple 19 May 2018 22: 58
      +1
      Your collage somewhat reminded:

  14. Dead hand
    Dead hand 19 May 2018 18: 45
    0
    Quote: KCA
    Nuclear power is banned in Antarctica, even diesel-powered icebreakers are only suitable, a ban on how many thousands of miles are around

    Antarctica is the south of the planet)) wink
  15. antiexpert
    antiexpert 19 May 2018 19: 13
    0
    and how exactly this project wanted to launch Google, the founder of which called Russia "snowy Nigeria")))
  16. flicker
    flicker 19 May 2018 20: 23
    0
    Floating - how many opportunities are opening up, not only to provide Chukotka with heat, but also the ability to bring closer to the shore of the geldings along with the "Relight" and the Merinskaya military aviation a little "highlight" ... lol
  17. Siberia 9444
    Siberia 9444 19 May 2018 20: 55
    0
    Like it or not cool thing good And a real breakthrough in nuclear energy hi
  18. Old26
    Old26 19 May 2018 21: 25
    +6
    Quote: kirgiz58
    One definitely needs to be located on the border of the 200-mile zone of the United States in the area of ​​the Yellowstone volcano. And in the case of further unfriendly development of the situation with the “partners”, with the cries of “aaaaa! Uncontrolled chain reaction !!”, evacuate the staff and initiate a big broads. And what? Peace atom for the good of the world

    Damn, how do you gored volcanologists and lovers lovers !!! am am
    In a 200-mile zone from the volcano decided to arrange ???? When were you banned in Google? And how much? Maybe forever ????? It seems .... Otherwise, such nonsense would not be carried with a smart look. The minimum distance to the coast from the volcano is MORE THOUSAND KILOMETERS (to the Gulf of Mexico - almost 2,5 thousand). Burlakov hire to drag there, or drag it yourself ???

    Big broads at the reactor, which is almost 30 times less powerful than Chernobyl and only 20 such broad lovers can do with RM in XNUMX% - like you ....

    And finally, all of you, lovers of bombing the volcano, to cause disaster for the Americans carry this nonsense. Usually they say in relation to such lovers - LEARN MATCH. I will not say this.

    So dear fans to bomb Yellowstone volcano !!!! I write once and especially for you
    According to various estimates, magma lies in the volcano under the “crater” of this volcano at a depth of 8 to 16 km according to various estimates. Vents NO. That is, in the vent you do not run anything ...
    Further. If you place a charge with a capacity of STO MEGATONNthen as a result of such a ground explosion a funnel of depth in xnumx meters. The next charge will need to be placed in the same funnel, to the bottom. And blow it up again. So, to get a funnel 1 km deep you will need to explode consistently FIVE CHARGES power 100 megatons each. To break through the vault of this magma lens you will need at least FORTY CHARGES of 100 megatons with total TNT equivalent FOUR GIGATONS
    And this is in the vault in 8 km. According to other sources - arch thickness 16 km. So the charges will need already EIGHTY. And only then will you break through the arch and cause a catastrophic eruption that will bury America. so that Go for it.
    Make 40-80 charges of 100 megatons and "nail" America. Just don’t forget to agree with the Americans on the process of such explosions .... Otherwise they won’t understand and launch their missiles in Russia and your blue dream will not come true to cause a catastrophe in the USA with the help of a volcano ...

    Quote: KCA
    Or did customers want to remain anonymous? :-) For example, K begins, Eun ends :-)

    And this unknown, starting in K and ending in Eun, from all the annual reports, personally tear out sheets where it was said about these deliveries ... laughing


    Quote: dvina71
    Who needs VPU "Caliber" without a "Caliber"? In addition .. from the Ministry of Defense orders to the producer have piled on.

    This is not VPU, Gennady! We are talking about the very propiarized launchers in containers that we drove for many years at all exhibitions and which no one ordered from us. True to all resources, these mythical launchers are present on container ships in blue dreams

    Quote: yay
    The thing, of course, is impressive! But I do not understand why he is needed in Chukotka? If the nuclear power plant is out of date there, then it is necessary to modernize it and build new power units.

    It is much more expensive. The station is old. already fulfilled its lines, it will be necessary to unload the spent nuclear fuel, dismantle the reactors, and install new ones. The USSR pulled to make one such station. Russia is hardly capable of such a construction in the conditions of the Far North

    Quote: sabakina
    It’s just that America is nearby, across the strait. wink

    Vyacheslav! She will stand on in Anadyr, where Alaska is across the strait, and in Pevek. And this is the Arctic Ocean. Almost 700 km to Anadyr ...
  19. Heterocapsa
    Heterocapsa 19 May 2018 22: 02
    +1
    purely practical, is it possible to drown such an apparatus in a wave?
    1. cats
      cats 20 May 2018 00: 04
      +1
      Quote: Heterocapsa
      is it possible to drown such an apparatus in a wave?

      A big wave is needed if, for example, the moon is dropped into a hail ..
      But seriously, tsunami-resistant, tank-indestructible, non-aircraft test
      wished .. yes
  20. senima56
    senima56 19 May 2018 23: 38
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    Good news! And it's nice to read that "... work will begin on the painting of the ship." And then some kind is not presentable for her now!
  21. STORM 12
    STORM 12 20 May 2018 00: 56
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    Quote: Old26
    Quote: kirgiz58
    One definitely needs to be located on the border of the 200-mile zone of the United States in the area of ​​the Yellowstone volcano. And in the case of further unfriendly development of the situation with the “partners”, with the cries of “aaaaa! Uncontrolled chain reaction !!”, evacuate the staff and initiate a big broads. And what? Peace atom for the good of the world

    Damn, how do you gored volcanologists and lovers lovers !!! am am
    In a 200-mile zone from the volcano decided to arrange ???? When were you banned in Google? And how much? Maybe forever ????? It seems .... Otherwise, such nonsense would not be carried with a smart look. The minimum distance to the coast from the volcano is MORE THOUSAND KILOMETERS (to the Gulf of Mexico - almost 2,5 thousand). Burlakov hire to drag there, or drag it yourself ???

    Big broads at the reactor, which is almost 30 times less powerful than Chernobyl and only 20 such broad lovers can do with RM in XNUMX% - like you ....

    And finally, all of you, lovers of bombing the volcano, to cause disaster for the Americans carry this nonsense. Usually they say in relation to such lovers - LEARN MATCH. I will not say this.

    So dear fans to bomb Yellowstone volcano !!!! I write once and especially for you
    According to various estimates, magma lies in the volcano under the “crater” of this volcano at a depth of 8 to 16 km according to various estimates. Vents NO. That is, in the vent you do not run anything ...
    Further. If you place a charge with a capacity of STO MEGATONNthen as a result of such a ground explosion a funnel of depth in xnumx meters. The next charge will need to be placed in the same funnel, to the bottom. And blow it up again. So, to get a funnel 1 km deep you will need to explode consistently FIVE CHARGES power 100 megatons each. To break through the vault of this magma lens you will need at least FORTY CHARGES of 100 megatons with total TNT equivalent FOUR GIGATONS
    And this is in the vault in 8 km. According to other sources - arch thickness 16 km. So the charges will need already EIGHTY. And only then will you break through the arch and cause a catastrophic eruption that will bury America. so that Go for it.
    Make 40-80 charges of 100 megatons and "nail" America. Just don’t forget to agree with the Americans on the process of such explosions .... Otherwise they won’t understand and launch their missiles in Russia and your blue dream will not come true to cause a catastrophe in the USA with the help of a volcano ...

    Quote: KCA
    Or did customers want to remain anonymous? :-) For example, K begins, Eun ends :-)

    And this unknown, starting in K and ending in Eun, from all the annual reports, personally tear out sheets where it was said about these deliveries ... laughing


    Quote: dvina71
    Who needs VPU "Caliber" without a "Caliber"? In addition .. from the Ministry of Defense orders to the producer have piled on.

    This is not VPU, Gennady! We are talking about the very propiarized launchers in containers that we drove for many years at all exhibitions and which no one ordered from us. True to all resources, these mythical launchers are present on container ships in blue dreams

    Quote: yay
    The thing, of course, is impressive! But I do not understand why he is needed in Chukotka? If the nuclear power plant is out of date there, then it is necessary to modernize it and build new power units.

    It is much more expensive. The station is old. already fulfilled its lines, it will be necessary to unload the spent nuclear fuel, dismantle the reactors, and install new ones. The USSR pulled to make one such station. Russia is hardly capable of such a construction in the conditions of the Far North

    Quote: sabakina
    It’s just that America is nearby, across the strait. wink

    Vyacheslav! She will stand on in Anadyr, where Alaska is across the strait, and in Pevek. And this is the Arctic Ocean. Almost 700 km to Anadyr ...

    "buddy", old or whatever, why do we need to hollow merika 80 tenths of charges from the top? other situations you do not consider?
    1. sabotage
      sabotage 20 May 2018 08: 09
      +1
      Quote: STORM 12
      "buddy", old or whatever, why do we need to hollow merika 80 tenths of charges from the top? other situations you do not consider?

      To ask a metrostroy?
  22. Old26
    Old26 20 May 2018 09: 36
    0
    Quote: STORM 12
    other situations you do not consider?

    Vladislav !!! I have already gotten the "experts" that this poor Yellowstone volcano each time intends to bomb to cause the Americans a catastrophic eruption that will "bury" America. Such "experts" do not think that everything in this world is interconnected and such an explosion can lead to a chain reaction throughout the world, our same supervolcano in Kamchatka and a couple in Japan will awaken. That all of our Primorye to hell can go under water and in general, the consequences are unpredictable. But they do not care. But they can’t simply not say about the explosion of the volcano with our help. And here are the options. That megaton head or ten megaton (no difference). Here is the comrade kirgiz58 (Boris) decided to "light up" in this field, deciding to use a floating nuclear power station for this. Therefore, my excursion (aka the cry of the soul) for those who wish to bomb
    1. kirgiz58
      kirgiz58 22 May 2018 07: 09
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      Quote: Old26
      Therefore, my excursion (aka the cry of the soul) for those who wish to bomb

      Do not be so serious. I deliberately put the "mad humor" emoticon. That's Vladimir 5 regarded my failed attempt to joke - Your comment is called acquired psychosis from continuous militarized information. . And at its core, I am the most “green of all green” - I won’t pick a flower either, and I’ll get around an ant. smile
  23. dgonni
    dgonni 20 May 2018 12: 01
    +1
    Well, firstly, not the first in the world laughing wink tyts (ship Sturgis). Secondly! For really stable operation of a nuclear power plant, it is necessary to have a thermal or hydro station to compensate for load surges! If the author does not know, then after Chernobyl the nuclear power plants operate at stable preset modes, and the load peaks compensate the thermal power station and the power plant! And here the dog rummaged. Bilibino NPP and Chaunskaya CHPP are going to close by 2021. If it is simpler, then this NPP will operate in emergency modes, which is not comme il faut for NPPs.
    1. Avis-bis
      Avis-bis 21 May 2018 21: 55
      0
      Quote: dgonni
      Well, firstly, not the first in the world laughing wink tyts (ship Sturgis). Secondly! For really stable operation of a nuclear power plant, it is necessary to have a thermal or hydro station to compensate for load surges! If the author does not know, then after Chernobyl the nuclear power plants operate at stable preset modes, and the load peaks compensate the thermal power station and the power plant! And here the dog rummaged. Bilibino NPP and Chaunskaya CHPP are going to close by 2021. If it is simpler, then this NPP will operate in emergency modes, which is not comme il faut for NPPs.

      Oh, the critics switched from the Kerch bridge to a new facility. And, after all, everything is so familiar ... :)
  24. S_Baykala
    S_Baykala 20 May 2018 15: 07
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    makes nuclear reactors immune to tsunamis

    The tsunami in Chukotka is like puddles after rain in the Sahara. Just impressed fellow (I understand perfectly well that it is planned to use not only in the Arctic Ocean).
  25. asv363
    asv363 21 May 2018 00: 40
    +2
    Quote: dgonni
    Secondly! For really stable operation of a nuclear power plant, it is necessary to have a thermal or hydro station to compensate for load surges! If the author does not know, then after Chernobyl the nuclear power plants operate at stable preset modes, and the load peaks compensate the thermal power station and the power plant! And here the dog rummaged. Bilibino NPP and Chaunskaya CHPP are going to close by 2021. If it is simpler, then this NPP will operate in emergency modes, which is not comme il faut for NPPs.

    For RP and TG used on icebreakers and nuclear submarines it is much easier to maintain stability simply because of the small volume of the core. Compare, for example, VVER-440 and VVER-1000 - this is from civilian RU. The maneuverability of icebreaking and boat RU was originally laid down in the project by the military.
  26. gukoyan
    gukoyan 21 May 2018 10: 05
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    A huge colossus ... On YouTube, his towing looked just an impressive sight, in real life it looks even more impressive)