Stolen or "violated"? Space and defense indicators from the Accounting Chamber

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The Accounts Chamber of the Russian Federation published a report on the results of the audit of budget spending in 2017. The volume of violations, voiced in it, is almost twice as high as the previous year and amounts to 1,87 trillion. rubles. To say that this is a lot is to say nothing. But let's still try to figure out: is everything as sad as it seems at first glance.





First of all, you need to pay attention to one fundamental point - the violation is not necessarily theft. And putting an equal sign here, stating that last year in Russia they stole almost two trillion rubles from the budgets of all levels, is completely wrong. Theft, of course, also present, we still do not live in a fairy tale.

But the lion's share of these violations falls on illiterate financial statements, conducting work in violation of regulations, inappropriate (formally) use of funds, etc. For example, is it possible to call embezzlement the construction of a facility of the Ministry of Defense, if this object is listed in the plans, money was allocated for its construction, project documentation was approved, but there were violations during the registration of the land plot? No, of course, the object is being built in accordance with the schedule, and, theoretically, there could do without theft at all. But such a violation could potentially create problems for the functioning of the object in the future, and therefore it cannot be overlooked.

In many ways, it is from these moments that the huge number of violations sounded. However, this should not reassure us: it is in this field of dubious or poorly documented costs that the main opportunities for corruption, theft, “drinking and kickbacks” lie.

Third-party experts point out several reasons for the increase in violations found. First of all, this is an increase in the quality of audit and its higher professionalism. At the same time, of course, the role of Tatyana Golikova is noted, which was the head of the Accounts Chamber in recent years. It is possible that this particular work was one of the reasons for her appointment as deputy prime minister in charge of the social bloc.

One more thing: 2017-th year was a year of election uncertainty, when the short-term interests of the officials prevailed over the long-term ones. To make it clearer, I will translate from expert to Russian - a lot of officials didn’t know if their places would remain, and it seems that she chose to steal as long as possible.

This is probably an accurate and honest assessment. In any case, I believe in her somehow more than Tatiana Alekseevna’s incredible professionalism. And if so, then the question remains whether something is changing in terms of combating corruption and responsibility for crimes of corruption. Somehow, too easily and massively, our officials recall their “short-term” interests ...

By the way, the Accounts Chamber also voiced the volume of violations, which almost certainly imply theft or corruption. And this is only 40 billion rubles, or 2% of the total amount of violations found.

How can you trust this figure? Let's leave it behind the brackets. Note for those who dare to doubt it: this is not the total number of thefts, but only those that were not previously identified. This did not include figures on already open criminal cases, the results of prosecutor's checks, the Investigation Committee, etc. And if you take this into account, everything becomes a little believable.

Of particular interest are the results of the audit in the defense and space industries. And it is all the more so because both of these industries have been harmed by the leaders in the list of least disciplined.

The space industry became the leader, in which 151 violation was revealed totaling 785,5 billion rubles! Moreover, the lion's share of all violations found in the activities of the liquidation commission of the Federal Space Agency. Violations when transferring the property of this agency to Roscosmos accumulated on 627,4 billion rubles - this is where the scale of the “short-term” interests was truly cosmic!

In second place in this "space race" was the construction of the Vostochny cosmodrome. Again, over the past years we have witnessed several criminal cases involving theft and misuse of funds at this facility. But here, as it turns out, there is still an open field for the activities of various inspection and control structures.

In total, following the results of 2017, the Accounts Chamber sent materials related to violations in the space industry to the 120 Investigation Committee. And the UK, as we know, deals not with violations, but with crimes. But, unfortunately, we will not be able to see the full picture: most of the materials have a “for official use” or “top secret” signature, which means that the result on them is also likely to be closed.

The defense sphere has also become one of the leaders in the number and volume of violations. They were counted for a total of 544,5 billion rubles. But it is noteworthy that only six materials were sent to the prosecutor’s office, on which 36 prosecution submissions were made, two administrative and one criminal cases were initiated. In this connection, I just want to joke about the mountain that gave birth to the mouse. But is there any joke?

In total, violations in the defense and space industries amounted to approximately 1 trillion. 300 billion rubles, or more than two-thirds of all violations found. In this connection, among other things, the question arises: are we really so good in other industries, or did the Accounts Chamber’s so close attention to space and the defense industry come from some specific reasons? Is everything great in construction? In the social sphere? In the export of energy, fish, forests, metals, mineral fertilizers?

After all, we live in a country where it is impossible to exclude the use of a joint venture as a tool of clan struggle or, good, espionage. And this, I confess, is alarming ...

At the same time, regardless of the motives of the management of the Accounts Chamber, it is necessary to note the presence of really serious problems in the management of our space and defense industry. And in the space industry, this is noticeably the same for people who are far from both the technical and financial component of rocket launches.

And one can only hope that the arrival of D. Rogozin to the post of head of "Roskosmos" will somehow turn the tide.

And Tatyana Alekseevna Golikova thanks a lot. But vigilance, as they say, do not lose ...
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  1. +16
    19 May 2018 05: 57
    And we can only hope that the arrival of D. Rogozin as the head of Roskosmos will somehow break ...
    something will surely break ... just ...? recourse
    1. +12
      19 May 2018 06: 11
      It's like about the harvest, all the efforts to grow and harvest, and storage and processing are just tears.
    2. +26
      19 May 2018 07: 20
      Quote: Andrey Yurievich
      And we can only hope that the arrival of D. Rogozin as the head of Roskosmos will somehow break ...

      something will surely break ... just ...?

      His arrival indicated that no one would break at Roskosmos ... No. Unless for 108 million rubles ... belay feel
      But let's try to figure it out: is everything so sad as it seems at first glance.

      It is sad that, leaving the post, Tatyana Golikova burst into tears. There is something about it. It designated a figure of return to the budget by each employee of the department headed by her - 38 rubles. I’m afraid that after Kudrin’s indomitable activity, we will have to cry. This is that bookkeeper.
      Frankly, everything in the country is so vile and disgusting, because the available money (our earned, but not paid) must be invested in the development of the country's economy, in the creation of industry, and we feed the banker, headed by Nabiullina.
      Banks in the amount of 500 fattening due to the margin between loans and deposits is a cancerous tumor. This is the ruin of our economy. It seemed to sit in your "Tuple", just go along the road (the technique allows), go out on the hill, open your eyes, look ... crying No, everything to him fellow fellow
      Oh, and harmful copper pipes! Slavushka, glavushka, sweet poison!
      1. +4
        19 May 2018 09: 44
        My opinion is all the "polymers of Roscosmos" that ... from inconsistent, unremarked activities. Why is the work ordered, and not planned (programmatic) in nature? Turning millions and billions, they are allowed to start and drop one, then start and drop another.
      2. +2
        19 May 2018 19: 50
        I recall Stepashin and his leadership of the joint venture, mega-theft on the state-budgetary feeder spun from him, he, like the cat Lepold from the cartoon, kept repeating: guys. you need to live in harmony (that is, share) ... The hackle-free system of theft is off-scale, but then the same ministers and others at the helm of the adjoining and "mastering" of billions, changing the place a little, "the same quartet ...
        1. +6
          20 May 2018 10: 07
          For whom we voted, we get
      3. 0
        20 May 2018 13: 07
        Quote: ROSS 42
        Frankly, everything is so vile and disgusting in the country

        How much? Once again, everything was gone?
        Quote: ROSS 42
        It designated a figure of return to the budget by each employee of the department headed by her - 38 rubles.

        They showed you the real possible theft, theft, corruption - 2% of the amount of violations. Everything else is “accounting stuff,” which is simply inevitable in the current economic management system. Moreover, in some situations, in order to implement the "production program", one has to go for formal violations. This is difficult to explain in "open language" to people who are not connected with the practice of performing real tasks. But believe me, in some cases there is no other way to survive. Dry theory, my friend, but the tree of life is magnificently green. Sometimes we are overwhelmed with information that we cannot digest and interpret correctly, but not everything is so sad .... wink
    3. avt
      +13
      19 May 2018 08: 30
      Quote: Andrey Yurievich
      something will surely break ... just ...?

      Here ,, Roscosmos "and break. Well
      Stolen or "violated"?
      So, in general, they violated it, so they stole it. By the way, I liked the passage -
      First of all, you need to pay attention to one fundamental point ............ But still, let's try to figure out: is everything so sad, as it seems at first glance ........... But the lion's share of these violations is accounted for by illiterate financial statements, work in violation of the regulations, misuse (formally) the use of funds, etc. For example, can it be called theft the construction of an object of the Ministry of Defense, if this object is listed in the plans, money has been allocated for its construction, project documentation has been approved, but there have been violations when registering the land for this object?
      That is, let's say, if they have withdrawn an advance payment of interest so on 100 and part of the money that doesn’t go into business at the first stage, they put in a bank deposit, or just gave it to a friend or relative, well, to build a shopping complex somewhere in Khabarovsk -What is it theft !? wassat Well, it's just a violation. " wassat They didn’t stole anything - the amount will generally converge, and the rest, well, interest on the deposit, posting to a friend for commercial construction -
      illiterate financial statements, work in violation of the regulations, misuse (formally) the use of funds, etc.
      wassat Why is it a criminal case to open!? wassat Right here
      First of all, you need to pay attention to one fundamental point - the violation is not necessarily theft. And to put an equal sign here, saying that last year almost two trillion rubles were stolen from budgets of all levels in Russia, is completely wrong.
      DO NOT SHOCK BUSINESS! I made the right conclusion, the author? wassat
      1. +1
        19 May 2018 14: 17
        You should not read such articles; they are too complicated for you; better limit yourself to the Masons who are there. This is your level.
        1. avt
          +7
          19 May 2018 15: 26
          Quote: morved
          You should not read such articles; they are too complicated for you,

          bully Both on ! Faithful Ragozinets drew. bully But specifically, besides gurgling, “thoughtful” to the comfort of one’s own significance is that? Or only
          Quote: morved
          about the liquid masons

          bully
          1. 0
            21 May 2018 10: 10
            And it’s weak to be a man and answer for your words. Well, for example, on the basis of what are my words, I suddenly became a "Ragozinets"? Thesis. Although I doubt these of your Internet, it’s not accepted ;-)

            Well, it’s just that I scoffed at you for a reason, the whole depth of your knowledge (more precisely, the blatant incompetence) you revealed in your post. In order not to be unfounded:
            The construction of the left shopping center is theft, and placing on a deposit with the subsequent receipt of interest by third parties is fraud, this has nothing to do with violations.
            And this is your incompetence in the issue that you are discussing just from a series of those who believe about various Judeo-Masonic conspiracies. The phrase "who is there" is a direct sign that it is sarcasm, but I look even in this form it turned out to be too thin for you ;-)

            Well, since we will see a logical conclusion, why am I suddenly "Ragozinets"?
      2. +7
        19 May 2018 16: 07
        You are angry!
        If influential Russian official temporarily do not shift budget money "for growth" from the state pocket into a private, so ...for what navel to tear in the service of the sovereign? wassat
        And if for this each plant ... yes, shoot, then - all his "under the root" of lime you can! crying
        1. avt
          +2
          19 May 2018 16: 23
          Quote: Corporal Pupkin
          You are angry!

          Also rude, not feminine. bully
      3. +4
        19 May 2018 18: 23
        Quote: avt
        That is, let's say, if they have withdrawn an advance payment of interest so on 100 and part of the money that doesn’t go into business at the first stage, they put in a bank deposit, or just gave it to a friend or relative, well, to build a shopping complex somewhere in Khabarovsk -What is it theft !?

        So the fact of the matter is that there is no prepayment for most state contracts at all. Buy, comrades, equipment for millions - but for ours, and then we will return everything to you in rubles ... in a few years. Here, at least 30% of the prepayment is somehow knocked out - it’s already happiness.
        And the second favorite trick is the lack of a project during construction. And estimates too. With a signed contract. The equipment was ordered - and then it turns out that, for example, another floor has formed in the building or the layouts have completely changed - because the customer so decided. And begins carrying out additional work through accounting ... belay
        1. avt
          +3
          19 May 2018 20: 27
          Quote: Alexey RA
          So the fact of the matter is that there is no prepayment for most state contracts at all. Buy, comrades, equipment for millions - but for ours, and then we will return everything to you in rubles ... in a few years. Here, at least 30% of the prepayment is somehow knocked out - it’s already happiness.

          bully As in one Soviet film - ,, Happiness is when you are understood " bully You can win the tender, and ... you don’t get anything at all, but you can, as I already wrote, paste the car with rhinestones and Minsk - at the casino.
          Quote: Alexey RA
          for example, another floor has formed or the layout has completely changed - because the customer so decided. And begins carrying out additional work through accounting ...

          bully And here is your truth and ..... everyone has a different fate, but which one - see above. bully It is possible under this recalculation it’s not quite sour to rise .... on rhinestones for the car wassat , and you can lose the case to zero. That is, as indicated earlier - the question is who and how it understands you. wassat
        2. 0
          21 May 2018 09: 12
          Quote: Alexey RA
          And the second favorite trick is the lack of a project during construction. And estimates too.

          You, dear storyteller!
    4. +9
      19 May 2018 09: 31
      I don’t know what Golikova was digging for, but the military depots caught fire after that. As for the 40 billion wooden returned to the budget, this is just what could be returned realistically. The rest has sailed away. Is it because they removed it and appointed another accountant, so that it would "count" correctly? winked
    5. +3
      19 May 2018 15: 33
      Victor

      Thank you.

      Great review, correct analytics, accessible presentation, beautiful Russian language without foreign distortions, knowledge of the topic, objective presentation of information.
      T. Golikov began to be respected. Nicely.

      Thanks again.
  2. +2
    19 May 2018 06: 03
    Every year, any solid organization conducts an inventory ... And every year it is imperative that they find it or don’t find it ... And most often this is incorrectly executed documentation ... This is what the Accounts Chamber is doing ... An absolutely worthless organization ...
  3. +4
    19 May 2018 06: 22
    In general, as with Saltykov-Shchedrin: the balancer was let down, the fitanese was given out, they were recorded in loro and nostro, and the money bye-bye was crying, sir hi
  4. +3
    19 May 2018 06: 29
    Anyone who has ever been in the position of the auditee will not let you lie - to foresee everything, to fulfill the requirements of all regulatory documents simply not-re-al-but .... Especially when the inspector is obliged to find a violation.
    The larger and more complex the system, the more vulnerabilities in it.
    An interesting dialogue on this subject is in the film "Belorussky Station" .. Remember?

    Oh yes, corruption and theft by itself also exist wink
  5. +14
    19 May 2018 06: 55
    Rogozin in Roscosmos is Ilyich’s embodied dream: "Every cook can manage the state." He is a journalist. Not an engineer. How can he manage what he does not understand at all. Let Zvezda go as editor-in-chief on TV, otherwise there’s a full “Groundhog Day” because he is a good journalist.
    1. +9
      19 May 2018 07: 30
      Quote: Amateur
      because he is a good journalist ...

      A good journalist is a hungry journalist. Putting words into sentences is not such a complicated science. It would be something to fold. From his journalistic work there was a situation that it is difficult to meet a Muscovite in Moscow. And how I wanted to put things in order ... fellow

      And still there are surprisingly relevant today words about Kudrin, about Putin:

      It’s just amazing how people change when they get into a common boiler ... request
    2. avt
      +6
      19 May 2018 15: 30
      Quote: Amateur
      Rogozin in Roscosmos is Ilyich’s embodied dream: "Every cook can manage the state."

      wassat Well, how much can you distort? A cook can manage if he gets the right amount of knowledge, which Lenin / Ulyanov actually said, well, and if Rogozin was not able to get this amount of knowledge to manage subordinate structures, then this is the trouble of Rogozin and the person who shoved him to this post and appointed him , and not the Soviet system of education, not a gram, not a mulimktra, neither Celsius nor Greenwich.
      1. -1
        19 May 2018 22: 46
        Knowledge and mind are two different things, one can be gained, the other only God distributes and you can not replace knowledge. But the state needs to be controlled and a great mind and great knowledge, in the absence of one of the components, we get a disgrace, which is often in Russia, for example, - Gorbachev, then Yeltsin, - the cooks in their pants were directed. According to this, not every cook can rule the state ...
    3. +4
      19 May 2018 18: 24
      Quote: Amateur
      Rogozin in Roscosmos is Ilyich’s embodied dream: "Every cook can manage the state."

      And where is it written by Lenin?
      We are not utopians. We know that any laborer and any cook are not able to immediately take control of the state. In this we agree with the Cadets, and with Breshkovskaya, and with Tsereteli. But we differ from these citizens in that we demand an immediate break with the prejudice that it is to rule the state, to carry on the everyday, daily work of the administration, only rich or from rich families are taken officials. We demand that the training in public administration be given by conscious workers and soldiers, and that it be started immediately, that is, all workers, the whole poor, immediately begin to be involved in this training..
  6. +1
    19 May 2018 07: 16
    Guys! Good, but in the ass, sort of? Krapovye motanuli, on a pity ... And we cracked our rucksacks - and akida to you, bukhatye further. Kohl did not take us-stupidly vpektsy not military? Then why so much
    1. AUL
      +2
      19 May 2018 17: 05
      Snack more tightly.
  7. +7
    19 May 2018 07: 18
    They reveal, help to return part to the state and that is good. It is time to treat the thieves, scammers on money from the state budget as enemies who undermine the national security of the state and, accordingly, punish them. And when they give 7 years of probation (who would say in Soviet times that such a punishment would be laughed at), then what can be expected in the future. And who was given a real term with the sentence to be served, he will go home after a couple of years in parole.
    1. +1
      19 May 2018 08: 57
      if we are given 5 years of suspended sentences for espionage and treason, then in the same states for a similar tower (life sentence or one of the three types of executions)
  8. 0
    19 May 2018 07: 22
    Guys ... I'm waiting for a toadstool. No, I know those people ... But it’s for sure that experience is a diving in a grebes, but you are involved - a problem
    1. +1
      21 May 2018 08: 37
      Quote: Jerk
      Guys ... I'm waiting for a toadstool. No, I know those people ... But it’s for sure that experience is a diving in a grebes, but you are involved - a problem

      6th chamber fled ...
  9. +10
    19 May 2018 07: 54
    yes everything is fine, money disappears but violations are not theft, theft is not violation, one verbal diarrhea, if the head of the SC chamber declares that corruption is a myth and kickbacks in the order of things, what can I talk about? somehow they forgot that she was Madame "Arbidol"
  10. +5
    19 May 2018 08: 54
    Yes .... "violations" .... type .... In fact, everything is correct: in the "space industry" and theft should be on a "space" scale ..... wink
  11. 0
    19 May 2018 09: 30
    The authorities plunged into power in their seats,
    their stomachs cherish the brain do not strain.
    The smoke of the Fatherland blew over our houses,
    the nostrils have been pinned up, you have to move your brains.
    The smoke of the Fatherland is not afraid of our scoundrels,
    because according to reports they recognize the work of a young man.
    Reports, like pictures, are drawn by aunts, uncles,
    because the grilles are not for them, they will not sit there.
    The smoke of the Fatherland, and gunpowder, and fire, and rot,
    place in the cell for life yearn for them
  12. 0
    19 May 2018 09: 50
    Quote: Andrey Yurievich
    And we can only hope that the arrival of D. Rogozin as the head of Roskosmos will somehow break ...
    something will surely break ... just ...? recourse

    ... so with a fool it is possible to eat and break a member - there have been cases ..
  13. +4
    19 May 2018 09: 50
    In Moscow, probably everything is fine and wonderful, but in the rest of Russia it is so-so. And with those people that in power will not be better.
    1. +3
      19 May 2018 09: 57
      Quote: Altona
      In Moscow, probably all is well and wonderful ...

      The average salary in Moscow is 68 rubles fellow speaks for itself (in the country - 37 crying )
      1. +2
        19 May 2018 10: 37
        But life in Moscow is much more expensive than in the country.
        1. +11
          19 May 2018 15: 23
          But life in Moscow is much more expensive than in the country.

          Delusion, or even nonsense, is craftyly disseminated. The fare in minibuses in Moscow does not differ from that in St. Petersburg, the metro is only 10 rubles more expensive. Products in supermarkets are even cheaper than in the country, or the same price. In addition, Moscow has a highly developed system of various compensations, both for pensioners and workers, such as travel and expenses for gasoline, utilities, etc., in general, is not observed in the rest of Russia. Moscow is generally something separate from Russia ....
        2. +1
          19 May 2018 15: 37
          Quote: Vadim237
          But life in Moscow is much more expensive than in the country.

          And in numbers is it possible?
          1. +9
            19 May 2018 16: 45
            Can!!! Canned fish produced on Sakhalin are cheaper in Moscow than on Sakhalin ... This is one example of how life in Moscow is supposedly more expensive than in other regions
  14. +1
    19 May 2018 09: 57
    Quote: SHURUM -BURUM
    My opinion is all the "polymers of Roscosmos" that ... from inconsistent, unremarked activities. Why is the work ordered, and not planned (programmatic) in nature? Turning millions and billions, they are allowed to start and drop one, then start and drop another.


    Because the whole country does not live according to plans (where did you see the State Planning Commission?), But according to moods. Moreover, the moods of the top are taken into account, and the moods of the bottom are adjusted to the current situation!
    1. +8
      19 May 2018 10: 08
      Instead of the State Planning Commission, we now have “May decrees” for the six-year plan, for which no one is responsible. winked
  15. +11
    19 May 2018 11: 24
    Vard, yes you are my friend troublemaker and Jacobin !!! But what about DORA, ZHORA and LORA (children of senior employees, wives of senior employees and lovers of senior employees)? !!! On all banks and the Ministry of Agriculture is not enough! Where do they miserable go, where do they eat, lush little head for a dark night where to lean ?!
    For nearly 45 years, the five-story Volna Hotel was located in the center of Severodvinsk near the "cradle of Russia's nuclear submarine fleet" of glorious Sevmash (yes, a typical 5-story building with a restaurant on the 1st floor, in Vologda, the Vologda Hotel was built according to the same project). But a new director came to Sevmash. I decided to repair the hotel. Repair gave to steer his nephew. How much money flowed from state repairs to St. Petersburg, to the director of a construction company, is a great secret. How the repair was completed - the nephew’s mother was made the director of the LLC LLC, which somehow didn’t understandably seized the “Wave”. A private hotel daily brings money in what pocket you need. What to do with a builder boy? After all, during the years of repairing the Volna, he bought real estate not in the center of cold Severodvinsk, but in the wilderness near Moscow - on Rublevskoye Shosse. And since hundreds of Muscovites stopped and are staying at the Volna on business trips to Sevmash, the construction boy became an almost federal minister and an auditor of the Accounts Chamber of the Russian Federation.
    As a former seminarian said there: "Cadres decide everything."
    Tatanka Yotanka, you are right at 202%, what is pop - such is the parish.
    1. 0
      19 May 2018 14: 38
      This is which Severodvinsk, st. George Sedov, 8? Nobody privatized it, if it was on the balance sheet of an enterprise, then it was transferred to its state and now it is a federal state unitary enterprise.

      I did not understand about the boy at all, starting from the fact that the auditor of the Accounts Chamber is not at all the level of a minister, and the problem is that he got a job in the Accounts Chamber.
  16. +2
    19 May 2018 15: 20
    And yet, a new type of repression is needed. It is necessary to plant, to plant many, to plant for corruption. Demonstration processes are needed. After all, we are doing terrible things. And by the way, it seems that there are no serious punishments for officials who allowed the death of children in Kemerovo. But this is almost Khatyn in the number of dead children. Officials need to be punished mercilessly. And on the ground, they generally often do whatever they want, ignoring the orders of the center.
  17. 0
    19 May 2018 15: 21
    I don’t like the blonde on the collage (stupid look and long nose). Something went wrong, or the instrument is deep or the nose is gorgeous — you’ll choke on it (you’ll understand from the photograph “figs” and I understand women).
  18. +2
    19 May 2018 15: 21
    Sharashki created by Stalin allowed to build and did not allow to steal.
  19. 0
    19 May 2018 15: 26
    Quote: Walernsky
    Sharashki created by Stalin allowed to build and did not allow to steal.

    As if so and not so.
  20. 0
    19 May 2018 15: 38
    What she did to herself, of course, is her business, but it is not clear to be half pregnant, they stole it so much that there’s a big deal about it.
    1. 0
      19 May 2018 15: 46
      Well, probably because they didn’t steal ;-) look, let's say you get a salary at the cash desk and not on a salary project, and when you receive it in the RCS, sign and write in writing the amount, position, last name. And now you’ll allow the amount in words to be forgotten, or forgot to write the amount in rubles, add 00 kopecks. Violation? Pure water, but no one stole anything. Or, for example, the cashier is sick and you receive vacation pay after the vacation (or vice versa earlier). Also no theft but indisputable violation.
  21. 0
    19 May 2018 15: 41
    The 2017 year was a year of election uncertainty, when the short-term interests of officials prevailed over the long-term. To make it clearer, I’ll translate from expert into Russian - the mass of officials did not know whether their habitual places would remain, and it seemed that she preferred to steal while there was such an opportunity

    A person who writes is absolutely far from the "process." On the contrary, all the officials in Gazprom, Rosneft, Transneft, and other oil companies have been hindered by all the processes associated with theft and kickbacks since the summer, calling the election the reason. And so every time, both at the federal and regional levels, even though we elect a president, even a governor. But now everything has gone, flogged, it has just rushed!
  22. +1
    19 May 2018 15: 48
    Quote: ROSS 42
    Quote: Altona
    In Moscow, probably all is well and wonderful ...

    The average salary in Moscow is 68 rubles fellow speaks for itself (in the country - 37 crying )

    Quote: Vadim237
    But life in Moscow is much more expensive than in the country.

    But is both this and that in, as officials say, a single country normal? Is a multiple difference in incomes and living standards between the regions of one country not a reason for social tension, incl. separatism on the one hand and Moscow’s “rubber” on the other? ...
    In the USSR, of course, there was a noticeable difference, too, but! ...
  23. +1
    19 May 2018 16: 01
    Interesting ... audit, NOT CHILDREN, private traders hammer for the difference in the reports in the amount of KOPEY ... not to mention the more terrible ACTIONS OF TRADERS !!! And then ... in the field of the public sector that they want, then they turn back with financial reports with fucking numbers ... fierce !!! A HUNDRED OF PONDS that verification + current inspectors (suddenly suddenly becoming dull) are in ONE TRAIN. Some people dig and share the current broths, and checking them stupidly covers. When inspectors need it, they will find financial irregularity sales on the elephant's ass. And who the hell will hide financial ends in the water. Moreover, in terms of allocating financial expenses for specific tasks and articles. In short, the financial bulge in Roskosmosm at the management level as it was from the time of Popovkin ... it is still more alive than all the living to this day wassat
  24. +4
    19 May 2018 16: 08
    the violation is not necessarily theft. And to put an equal sign here, saying that last year almost two trillion rubles were stolen from budgets of all levels in Russia, is completely wrong.

    C'mon, does the author soothe himself?
    The head of Rostekhnadzor in the Northwestern Federal District Grigory Slabikov withdrew more than a billion rubles.

    The official does not have the most significant HOUSE in the country! cash more than a billion! This is only cash, but also jewelry, etc. But he is not in the defense industry or Roskosmos. And what does he have on hidden accounts or on framed relatives? And in the garage?
    And he is one of thousands, he has a lot of deputies which also fell, and those have their own performers ...
    The fact that only the tip of the iceberg “opened” Golikova, the scale of theft is terrifying.
    And that’s not all. Everyone knows that in Russia there is a high level of drug addiction, and huge amounts of money are spinning in the illicit drug trade, and where is that Pashka Escobar that owns them? It is so encrypted that it is not known to anyone and neither the FSB nor the Gosnarkokartel can calculate it?
    1. 0
      19 May 2018 16: 11
      Zhenya hello hi
      Yes hammer
      1. +1
        19 May 2018 16: 17
        Good evening.
        With pleasure, the hand does not flinch, just bring the nails ...
        1. 0
          19 May 2018 16: 35
          Ok, I see. And it’s clear and understandable.
          In general, it’s useless to talk about Communism. Back in 1984, I said in my hearts: you still remember us Communists.

          Come on. I’m a pretty smart guy (as the women say), but by love, so far, and TU-154 and AN-124 flies in my designs.

          To me, this "above the roof." Pleased as a Boa constrictor from a cartoon about 38 parrots.
  25. 0
    19 May 2018 17: 40
    Quote: SHURUM-BURUM
    My opinion is all the "polymers of Roscosmos" that ... from inconsistent, unremarked activities. Why is the work ordered, and not planned (programmatic) in nature? Turning millions and billions, they are allowed to start and drop one, then start and drop another.


    You probably don’t know anything about such regulatory documents as the Federal Space Program, the State Defense Order, state procurement tenders, the State procurement website, the joint-stock company’s business plan, annual planning of the enterprise’s financial and economic activities, the procedure for carrying out R&D and R&D, etc. etc.
    This is where your maxims come from ...
  26. +1
    19 May 2018 17: 40
    What a pop, such a parish. No wonder.
  27. 0
    19 May 2018 18: 00
    Quote: avt
    That is, say, if they knocked out an advance payment of interest so on 100 and part of the money,


    Brad of sif kable ... have you ever seen an agreement on the development (creation) of any modern technical system (PPO)?
    And why the hell is bookkeeping and the head of the enterprise (the “office”) of the Customer will make 100% payment of the UNMADE (AND EVEN NOT STARTED - since this is about PAYMENT) WORKS?
    And not one LEGAL and AGREEMENT Departments (departments) JUST DO NOT SIGN THE AGREEMENT WITH 100% PAYMENT ... the very first accounting audit will take all the "coordinators" of such an agreement for the ass - so no one in Zdorovoye UM will be openly ... because everything is opened and checked elementary ...
    This is possible only in a sausage shop, among people of known nationality ... and to use budget money, schemes ... hehe ... more complicated
    1. avt
      +3
      19 May 2018 18: 29
      Quote: Strelets1
      This is possible only in a sausage shop, among people of known nationality ...

      So tell me your
      Quote: Strelets1
      Brad of sif kable ..

      He was a Georgian sub-contractor, a contractor who glued the car with rhinestones with rhinestones and cut them in Minsk until they took him in the case of Vostochny
      Quote: Strelets1
      SIMPLY DO NOT CONTRACT AGREEMENT WITH 100% PAYMENT ...
      ,, They simply "pulled money, painted," and the whole scheme of "garbage" fell down, and only after they disrupted ALL terms for putting the object into operation, and even threw greed on the salaries of workers. Almost also burned on the bridge "Russian Seryozha, “Lisping” in Vladivostok.
      Quote: Strelets1
      and for using budget money, little schemes ... hehe ... more difficult

      bully Where
      Quote: Strelets1
      will be more difficult

      there, the percentage of "garbage" is higher, and the current redneck for a penny will strangle, even if there are millions of pocket money. bully
  28. 0
    19 May 2018 18: 19
    Quote: Amateur
    How can he manage what he does not understand at all.


    At one time - when the USSR was in place, the entire population of the country was "well versed" in two areas - healthcare and football ... everyone knew "how to treat" and "how to play to score goals" ...
    Since then, more than a quarter of a century has passed - progress has been made - now every citizen of the Russian Federation thinks he is UNDERSTANDABLE IN EVERYTHING - especially WHOSE AND AS POSSIBLE AND NEEDED TO MANAGE (no matter what, the range is wide - from SPORT TO SPACE) ...
    Just remembering the achievements of the USSR and comparing with the Russian Federation (from football to space), you understand that it did not get better ... except for the salaries ... of football players and top management in the space industry ...

    And to manage EVERYTHING IN WHICH IT IS NOT UNDERSTANDED, only one mr.
  29. 0
    19 May 2018 19: 06
    Quote: Puncher
    The official does not have the most significant HOUSE in the country! cash more than a billion!


    Hehe ... the record of the MVDesh Colonel is NOT yet closed ... that one had 9 billion rubles ... some kind of gazelle some money ... hehe ... "in the sister’s apartment ..."
  30. +2
    19 May 2018 19: 30
    What is the point of having the Accounts Chamber if prosecutors do not start working after its conclusions? And then the judges.
    And at the end of the FSIN.
    For example.
    The Burj Khalifa is a 828-meter-high skyscraper in Dubai, the tallest building in the world.
    The Dubai Tower was designed as a “city in a city” with its own lawns, boulevards and parks. The total cost of the construction is about $ 1,5 billion.
    The cost of reconstruction of the Bolshoi Theater amounted to 35,4 billion rubles, the Accounts Chamber said on February 14.
    The dollar exchange rate on December 30.12.2012, 1 is 1 USD to 30.3727 RUR - XNUMX.
    That is, the reconstruction cost 1.16 billion dollars.
    For reference.
    The height of the Bolshoi Theater is 45 meters.
    If in OJSC during construction not only the most modern technologies were used, but also those that were not yet known to anyone, that is, they were developed on-site (concrete supply of 600 meters is weak !?), then in Moscow everything was more or less routine.
    So why such a price?
    Therefore, we can talk for a long time about the need for control, but if this is government policy, then nothing will change.
  31. +3
    19 May 2018 22: 37
    NASA Director James Brydenstein receives 174 thousand 185,1 thousand dollars a year.
    The General Director of GK Roscosmos Igor Komarov last year earned 71 million 501 thousand 646 rubles at his main place of work. Or 1 million 311 thousand 531 dollars at the average exchange rate of 2017. (The total annual income of Mr. Komarov is 108 million 577 thousand 386 rubles according to the declaration).
    ... What can I say next, I don’t even know, however, everything is clear and so, without words ...
  32. 0
    22 May 2018 15: 28
    SpaceX has already become a leader in the global commercial launch market, having intercepted orders from old players, primarily Roskosmos and the French ArianeSpace. In 2017, SpaceX conducted 18 Falcon launches, all of which were successful. Its share reached 45% (40% for the EU, and 15% for Russia).

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