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NASA is not planning to deliver astronauts to space on their ships

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The United States intends to order the production of the Soyuz spacecraft in Russia for the delivery of its astronauts to the International Space Station in 2020 due to the delay in the manufacture of American commercial spacecraft, RIA reports News with reference to a source in the rocket and space industry.


NASA is not planning to deliver astronauts to space on their ships


Its production and flight to the ISS will be fully paid by the American side. The crew will include two American astronauts. The ship will be controlled by a Russian cosmonaut.
- added a source.

It is planned to conclude a contract between the corporation Boeing and RSC Energia; a similar agreement was concluded for the delivery of American astronauts in 2018 and the first half of 2019.

The contract will require permission from US lawmakers, who may criticize NASA’s dependence on Russia.

However, problems may also arise from the Russian side - in April it was reported that the government allegedly prohibited Roskosmos from signing legally binding documents with the states that imposed sanctions against Russia.

Earlier in "Roskomos" expressed concern that in the 2019 year, the United States will put into operation their ships and ensure their independence from Russia in the matter of delivering astronauts into space.
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  1. Dormidont
    Dormidont 18 May 2018 11: 52
    +4
    For there is nothing
    1. Berber
      Berber 18 May 2018 11: 58
      +5
      As a result, all the achievements of Ilona Mask - an advertising company, for the simple-minded. It also helps to cut the US budget. We will rejoice at their "achievements".
      1. MPN
        MPN 18 May 2018 12: 43
        +7
        Quote: BerBer
        As a result, all the achievements of Ilona Mask - an advertising company, for the simple-minded. It also helps to cut the US budget. We will rejoice at their "achievements".

        He is going to Mars, some ISS are of little interest to him ... Mars is not a trifle in your pockets!
        1. tigoda
          tigoda 18 May 2018 14: 52
          +2
          Yes, to Mars, and also to Saturn and Jupiter! In short, somewhere to nowhere, where no one will check!
          But in fact, it will again flood in the Atlantic, like the “heavy falcon" ...
          1. Berber
            Berber 18 May 2018 15: 48
            0
            Tricksters and scammers, in a word.
      2. Vadim237
        Vadim237 18 May 2018 12: 50
        0
        “As a result, all the achievements of Elon Mask” - He’s here, his manned Dragon will fly for the first time - only at the end of the year.
        1. Blackmokona
          Blackmokona 18 May 2018 13: 31
          0
          The second time, not the first. The first time it flies for tests without a crew in the summer.
        2. tigoda
          tigoda 18 May 2018 14: 56
          0
          Yes, yes, at the end of 2022 or 2023, and so far without pilots ...
      3. gaura
        gaura 18 May 2018 13: 19
        0
        After each space news, I ask myself the question "where is Ilon our Mask" ?! He has already built a ship "having no analogues in the world" ship
        1. Blackmokona
          Blackmokona 18 May 2018 13: 32
          0
          Built, undergoing testing and certification. The first test orbital flight, tentatively this summer
          1. gaura
            gaura 18 May 2018 14: 14
            0
            And Nasa, meanwhile, continues to purchase our "having a worldwide equivalent." And Ilon, ah Musk. Could not sell? Not finished yet? But ALREADY flied and returned
            1. Blackmokona
              Blackmokona 18 May 2018 18: 09
              0
              While not purchasing, the news is only about rumors of a possible purchase. Old contracts are being implemented now.
              1. gaura
                gaura 18 May 2018 19: 29
                0
                The article indicates about new contracts. Something you do not fit the sectarians of the Great Ilon
                1. Blackmokona
                  Blackmokona 18 May 2018 19: 49
                  0
                  In article inf OBS
                  RIA Novosti reports citing a source in the rocket and space industry.

                  An anonymous informant is not a statement.
          2. Berber
            Berber 18 May 2018 15: 52
            0
            Do not be naive, watch your hands. Again there will be a beautiful picture. I think if they had everything as good as they say, they would not cooperate with us. And they would also come up with some sort of sanctions for RosKosmos, well, to strangle a competitor. And so, they have nowhere to go.
        2. Vadim237
          Vadim237 18 May 2018 13: 33
          0
          He has already built a ship "having no analogues in the world" - the BFR will most likely fly by the age of 25.
    2. max702
      max702 18 May 2018 11: 59
      +2
      From the US side, everything is logical, without investing a cent of REAL money or a gram of resources, without spending a single person hours, they get working solutions to fulfill their goals, just like with spy satellites and target designation due to RD-180 .. And yes, all it pays for Russia by buying American treasuries ..
      1. Warrior with machine gun
        Warrior with machine gun 18 May 2018 12: 18
        +2
        So the question arises, in the current scenario, why bring this guano into space and call it partners, some kind of idiocy (there’s a lot of problems on Earth with them, let them fly astride the Mask)
        1. max702
          max702 18 May 2018 22: 55
          0
          Quote: Warrior with a machine gun
          So the question arises, in the current scenario, why bring this guano into space and call it partners, some kind of idiocy (there’s a lot of problems on Earth with them, let them fly astride the Mask)

          Children, relatives, real estate, and everything acquired by overwork is all there ... So we cannot refuse partners anything important for them ...
      2. Mih1974
        Mih1974 19 May 2018 05: 48
        0
        AHA SHCHAZ "they received", they received a hole from a donut. It’s not so much true, but according to the “rumors” Merikasy will not even make a copy of our engine. And they spent money and man-hours, and a lot - on an attempt to understand "what kind of beast" is our engine and "what it is eaten with". Again, according to what they have read, they are trying to make a “copy”, or rather, so far only “on paper”, that is, they don’t even have Maths dancing, then the power is not that, it’s expensively unacceptable. Well, they don’t get a “squared circle”, although as they say “results on the face” laughing tongue
    3. Proxima
      Proxima 18 May 2018 12: 00
      +2
      But what about the space swindler Alon Musk? belay He promised to certify his “Dragon” for manned flights back in 2015. Yes, and on Mars, he was going to throw cargo in 2016. good And nothing has changed! I can’t wait for the American femida to formally charge Mask with fraud and the multi-billion dollar theft of funds from NASA’s budget.
      1. Sergey39
        Sergey39 18 May 2018 12: 26
        +1
        It’s necessary for them to lease Rogozin to the Mask at the company. Let them help
      2. 73bor
        73bor 18 May 2018 12: 51
        0
        It's just one thing to make a rocket and a piece of iron to be pulled into space, and another thing is a living astronaut, life support systems, etc. you can’t do it on your knee!
        1. tigoda
          tigoda 18 May 2018 15: 05
          0
          By the way, a piece of iron, they promised to raise 16 tons (16 cars) and tried to raise it - 1 ton !!!
          And NOT raised! Otherwise they would show in orbit! Not shown - it means there was nothing to show, not raised.
          Looks like all the forces went to the return of 2 accelerators!
      3. Vadim237
        Vadim237 18 May 2018 12: 57
        +2
        You can wait as long as you want, nothing will be presented to him - the satellites are launching, the cargo ships are launching, the manned dragon is being completed, he has already launched a superheavy rocket, and he will fly to Mars when he will make the interplanetary transport system - there is nothing to charge against fraud, the main funding for space is to NASA and to ULA.
        1. Proxima
          Proxima 18 May 2018 13: 44
          +1
          Quote: Vadim237
          - There is no reason to charge fraud, the main funding for space goes to NASA and ULA.

          Ask at your leisure how much NASA (namely NASA) allocated funds. The mask for a manned spacecraft - the hell will grab you belay
          1. Vadim237
            Vadim237 18 May 2018 14: 22
            +2
            Vryatli more than what we were given to create the Angara rocket - korai was not a flyer.
          2. Hole puncher
            Hole puncher 18 May 2018 14: 29
            +2
            Quote: Proxima
            Ask at your leisure how much NASA (namely NASA) allocated funds. The mask for a manned spacecraft - the hell will grab you

            2,6 billion US dollars. Chet does not take the haste.
      4. Mih1974
        Mih1974 19 May 2018 05: 51
        0
        Calm down, this will NEVER. Do you still not see that Musk is nothing more than a "zits-chairman", and decisions, technical work, and in general - all this without him. And given "what kind of power" one must possess in the US Government in order to "put" NASA in favor of a private office like this, then this is the "level of God", it’s a person or people who can make the US system itself work illegally "for the good of the nation." So no one will ever plant a Mask or even judge.
    4. APASUS
      APASUS 18 May 2018 22: 25
      0
      Quote: Dormidont
      For there is nothing

      And in my opinion there is just something. Our mothers will be sold for grandmothers and American arms will be taken out again for grandmothers into space, and then such a loud boom in the Duma, how can we punish the United States? Well, such a boisterous activity, you are simply amazed, and the media are simply tearing the earth: how do we bend them!
      They are not selling locksmith’s native uterus, they conclude contracts right at the highest level and we believe in the benefit of our country, it’s all against us! And they will tell us everything as it should and explain that the money will go into retirement!
  2. Simon
    Simon 18 May 2018 11: 53
    +1
    Well, the Americans cannot do without us! They do not want to walk to the ISS, they ask us to give them a “carriage”. wink Tell them - friends "dachshund" is increasing!
    1. faridg7
      faridg7 18 May 2018 13: 38
      +1
      Well, one can argue with this, as far as I know, they have a carrier, just using it is excessively expensive for them. But when the fee increases, there is a chance of resuming your program. With all the victorious statements of Rogozin, it is worth looking at the statistics of launches. The USA for 2017 is 29 successful launches, the emergency is 0. Russia for 2017 is 19 launches of which are 2 unsuccessful (although the statistics emphasize interestingly: 1 launch is unsuccessful, 1 launch is PARTLY unsuccessful. This type of launch was successful, but failed over?)
      1. Mih1974
        Mih1974 19 May 2018 05: 57
        0
        You compare the number of cars in the country fool . Is it not clear that in the USA there are more Customers sending satellites, and to the question why on Russian missiles - and you are not indicative of sanctions against aluminum and Deribaski? They’ll roll out some sanctions - there are rockets for satellites, some don’t roll out, they screwed up on aluminum because they don’t have “their own” to replace them. negative
        No, this will in no way alleviate the problems in our space industry, but in the absence of fair competition, demanding Roskosos superiority over Mask is like demanding "fill up the US with chicken legs" fool . Maybe in some places the logic can be traced, but this logic is "a spherical horse in a vacuum."
        1. faridg7
          faridg7 19 May 2018 08: 20
          0
          Quote: Mih1974
          Is it really not clear that in the USA there are more Customers sending satellites,

          And who told you that all these launches were only in the interests of customers from the United States? The customer is guided by two parameters - reliability and price, if the customer has gone to the states, then he was not satisfied with the prices and reliability of the launch from Roscosmos. We need to work, not to threaten with trampolines, and even more so in the conditions of unfair competition imposed on us.
        2. faridg7
          faridg7 19 May 2018 08: 27
          0
          Quote: Mih1974
          You compare the number of cars in the country

          Speaking of the number of cars to compare. Quantity can not be compared, but quality is even more so. Here is a survey among truckers about comparing KamAZ and Freightliner, you will be offended, almost like me
  3. Aaron Zawi
    Aaron Zawi 18 May 2018 11: 54
    +4
    There will be food. Is it possible today to talk about who will be in a year. Then in a month you will not know.
  4. Same lech
    Same lech 18 May 2018 11: 54
    +3
    But what about Ilon Mask with his super-duper car launches into Earth orbit? smile ... bummer ... deceived ... all hopes of a breakthrough into Space moved back in time ... here's a crook.
  5. cats
    cats 18 May 2018 11: 55
    +3
    Trampolines ... ahahahahaha ..
    Musk is super ... Amerika superr ..
    And Rogozin about trampolines ... ahahahaha.

    And yet .. Takes on trampolines .. request
  6. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 18 May 2018 12: 01
    +2
    The offer is tempting. And why did Roskosmos panic about 2019?
    1. Blackmokona
      Blackmokona 18 May 2018 12: 28
      0
      https://m.lenta.ru/news/2018/05/18/soyuz/
      Russia will lose its monopoly on delivering people to the ISS in 2019, according to a presentation by Anna Kudryavtseva, director of the department for the development of commercial projects at Roscosmos, presented at a meeting of the public council of the state corporation. It is reported by RIA Novosti.

      Official news against rumors, what will happen on topvar?
      1. slipped
        slipped 19 May 2018 00: 07
        0
        Have you been to that presentation? ))) everyone hears what he wanted to hear - the tape lied to what is already known and gave it off as a "sensation." In general, there was talk about the commercial use of the ISS.
  7. rocket757
    rocket757 18 May 2018 12: 04
    +3
    As if they have bucks, not measured! Likely to create a fountain pen again for zero gravity! Schaub so ra-a-az and flew everyone to envy!
    However, in the end they will do, possibly envy of everyone.
    I’m worried about our throwing and failures .... of course, good luck. but their shots are not very many!
  8. Abram
    Abram 18 May 2018 12: 17
    0
    NASA, in its Orions, may not be. And on Dragon V2 and CST-100, from next year
    1. Blackmokona
      Blackmokona 18 May 2018 12: 29
      0
      It seems that the first manned Dragon-2 is still listed in December this year?
      1. JonnyT
        JonnyT 18 May 2018 12: 36
        0
        it’s so scary to fly alone on a ship that has not been tested with the crew, with a Russian pilot on a Russian ship for safer safety
      2. Abram
        Abram 18 May 2018 12: 37
        0
        still yes. I think he will manage faster than a Boeing. those are already 5 years old as they regularly tolerate. But Orion in general, "flew away" to the Federation by the timing. the same drinking office as Roscosmos
  9. Amateur
    Amateur 18 May 2018 12: 59
    0
    After all, recently, a certain dog from Roscosmos spoke about the triumph of the Amer manned space program? Did they offend her like that?
  10. impostor
    impostor 18 May 2018 13: 11
    0
    What ... McCain?
    1. Vadim237
      Vadim237 18 May 2018 13: 35
      0
      And McCain - at death.
      1. impostor
        impostor 18 May 2018 14: 23
        0
        But is this a gap? The template? And if the brain is destroyed, then the spinal cord?
  11. Archivist Vasya
    Archivist Vasya 18 May 2018 13: 33
    0
    The United States will commission its ships and secure their independence from Russia in the matter of astronaut delivery to space

    Sooner or later this will inevitably happen, I think that in the next 5 years for sure, so you need to use the remaining time properly.
  12. dgonni
    dgonni 18 May 2018 15: 50
    +2
    This is called strategic planning! What our Roskosmos cannot boast of. Unfortunately :(. An order for one flight and payment is the lesser evil if the dragon or something else does not take off or something goes wrong! Rogozin study, study and study again! Competently and without show-offs!
  13. rus-5819
    rus-5819 18 May 2018 18: 10
    0
    Its production and flight to the ISS will be fully paid by the American side. The crew will include two American astronauts. The ship will be controlled by a Russian cosmonaut.


    [Quoteп] The government allegedly forbade Roscosmos to sign legally binding documents with states, [/ quote]
    So everything is on trampolines !!!! And Musk will help you!
  14. san4es
    san4es 18 May 2018 19: 09
    +1
    ... Long ago, they would have launched some of those sentenced to the "tower" winked
    Earlier, Roskomos expressed concern that in 2019 the United States will commission its ships and ensure independence from Russia.

    hi SpaceX aims to launch the Bangabandhu-1 satellite on Friday, May 11, from the 39A Launch Complex (LC-39A) at NASA's Kennedy Space Center, Florida. The two-hour launch window opens at 16:14 EDT or 20:14 UTC. The backup start window opens on Saturday, May 12 at 16: 15 Eastern time or 20: 15 GMT.
    The Bangabandhu-1 satellite was launched into the geostationary transfer orbit (TRP) approximately 33 minutes after launch.
    The Bangabandhu Satellite-1 mission will be the first to use the Falcon 9 Block 5, the final major upgrade to the Falcon 9 SpaceX booster. The Falcon 9 Block 5 is designed for 10 or more flights with very limited repairs, as SpaceX continues to strive for fast re-operation and extremely high reliability.
    After splitting the stage, SpaceX will land the Falcon 9 on a platform in the Atlantic Ocean.
    11 May 2018 city
  15. Mih1974
    Mih1974 19 May 2018 05: 42
    0
    Still "trampoline"? tongue lol
    It’s even interesting for me - if Russia “takes offense” and leaves the “lunar project”, what mattresses will be built there. By the way, a very interesting idea (to leave), mattresses are known for their obliquity in space, and just the Lunar orbital station can and most likely will become that mego_fail tongue Now the most reasonable thing is to "negotiate" with China and, for example, India on a joint project. At least China has loot, and we have production capacities for the streaming production of missiles, which means that if our station does not stop completely, then we will ensure deliveries and we will have better emergency stability. good
    1. Vadim237
      Vadim237 19 May 2018 10: 52
      0
      At the moment, in the Lunar project - only the Russian gateway and that’s all.
  16. fa2998
    fa2998 19 May 2018 07: 06
    0
    Quote: Vadim237
    Vryatli more than what we were given to create the Angara rocket - korai was not a flyer.

    Yes, it was an epic! As in the cartoon, “we built, built and finally built!” They drank so much and now the grass doesn’t grow. There’s no owner or statesman in the cosmonautics. Billions leave regularly, but no one is responsible for the result. What we’re carrying now Americans into space is the merit of the Queen, with his P-7! hi
    1. Vadim237
      Vadim237 19 May 2018 10: 56
      0
      There is still a lot of ultra-breakthrough projects: Soyuz 5, Federation, lunar station, superheavy rocket, epic with 5 lunar landing modules and much more - Roscosmos requires, “Give me everything”
  17. Е2 - Е4
    Е2 - Е4 19 May 2018 12: 21
    0
    The whole cosmos is built on Russian technologies, including stolen ones. Without Russia, space is closed to everyone, it is only thanks to Russia that space programs, including NASA, live
    1. kipod
      kipod 19 May 2018 12: 32
      +1
      Quote: Е2 - Е4
      Whole cosmos built on Russian technologies, including stolen.

      all - all.
      P-1 (GRAU index - 8A11, Volga object [1]) - the first large ballistic missile, created in the Soviet Union on the model of the A4 missile ("V-2") German, and then American designer Werner von Braun.

      Quote: Е2 - Е4
      Without Russia, space is closed to everyone,

      Quote: Е2 - Е4
      only thanks to Russia live space programs including US