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Like Putin. "Cortege" put on the conveyor

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President Vladimir Putin at a meeting with the head of Rostec Sergey Chemezov instructed to start mass production of jeeps and sedans of the “Cortege” project, reports RIA News.




The Russian leader also expressed the hope that "people with any income" will be able to afford such cars. Thus, he commented on the words of Chemezov that he was often called by rich people who wanted to buy a “motorcade” in the property.

According to the president, the lineup “Cortage” turned out to be successful and minibuses: “they can be used for families with children.”

Putin also spoke positively about the representative car, which he tested at the inauguration.

In turn, the head of Rostec said that not only cars, but also a motorcycle would be in the line of the “Cortege”: “They have already prepared it, but did not have time to bring it to mind.” According to him, the bike was very beautiful and "in its characteristics is not inferior to Western models."

It must be better
noted Putin. In response, Chemezov promised that it would be so.

The project "Tuple" involves the creation of a family of cars on a single modular platform. The executive officer is the Federal State Unitary Enterprise Central Research Automobile and Automotive Institute "NAMI". Investments in the project amount to 12,4 billion rubles.

So far, only the head of state uses this car. Following him on the project cars must move other officials. It was also reported that in 2019, cars will be available for sale. Price - from 6-7 million rubles.
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  1. Andrey K
    Andrey K 18 May 2018 09: 22
    +11
    ... "Tuple" put on the conveyor ...

    Nice to read.
    But the words will, we put and so on "in the future", kill the whole positive.
    First they build a conveyor, and then they put it on stream.
    ... "It needs to be better," Putin said. In response, Chemezov promised that it will be so ...

    I would very much like that the words do not diverge from the deed.
    The situation with the promises of "Cortege" cause a persistent sense of deja vu.
    ... As part of Rostec, they finally created a Russian product. And presented.
    “In short, Apple has strained,” Dmitry Anatolyevich joked ...

    1. sabakina
      sabakina 18 May 2018 09: 30
      +21
      I remember that the Russians were promised two Volga per voucher. Now one "Tuple". It remains to wait for a new voucher.
      Chemezov’s words that rich people often call him, who want to acquire “Tuple” in property.
      Fat cats saw a new toy. Then they will argue before each other, whose Cortege is cooler, with him or Putin?
      1. MPN
        MPN 18 May 2018 09: 44
        +21
        hi Vyacheslav
        Quote: sabakina
        I remember that the Russians were promised two Volga per voucher. Now one "Tuple". It remains to wait for a new voucher.
        Old vouchers do not roll?
        there will be not only cars, but also a motorcycle
        And also a bicycle ... that’s exactly what GDP meant
        that "people of any income" can afford such
        1. kuznec
          kuznec 18 May 2018 10: 25
          +13
          Pavel, considering the prices of premium models of bicycles - rather, he meant a keychain lol
          1. MPN
            MPN 18 May 2018 10: 29
            +9
            Quote: kuznec
            Pavel, considering the prices of premium models of bicycles - rather, he meant a keychain lol

            Probably .... to blame, I couldn’t just find anything cheaper for the Cortege line to give an example ... wink
            1. bazzbazz
              bazzbazz 18 May 2018 10: 48
              +4
              Exactly, let Putin drive this car, and the rest of the officials should drive without flashing lights and green streets. On cars no more than 2 million rubles, domestic production. But it's a dream, by ear)
              1. MPN
                MPN 18 May 2018 10: 59
                +9
                Quote: bazzbazz
                On cars no more than 2 million rubles, domestic production.

                The main thing is domestic, so that the money would go to the budget ... and the price ..., well, you’re somehow hung up on their average monthly income ... even if they go to Putin’s, the main thing is to go to the domestic one, they can even finance a separate project and build on a personal order ...
                1. bazzbazz
                  bazzbazz 18 May 2018 11: 11
                  +1
                  I don’t think that bureaucrats should drive 7 or more million cars in wheelbarrows. And at the expense of the project, it is not clear how much it is ours and where the money will go.
                  1. Vadim237
                    Vadim237 18 May 2018 13: 12
                    +1
                    I know for sure that they have a nine-speed automatic transmission - completely Russian.
                    1. Shurik70
                      Shurik70 18 May 2018 13: 28
                      +1
                      If these cars will be "FOR EVERYONE."
                      Then what then will be "NOT FOR EVERYONE"?
                      what
                      1. AUL
                        AUL 18 May 2018 14: 22
                        +1
                        The Russian leader also expressed the hope that “people of any income” will be able to afford such machines.
                        The guarantor has some strange ideas about the prosperity of his "population"!
          2. Dead duck
            Dead duck 18 May 2018 10: 36
            +7
            Quote: kuznec
            Pavel, considering the prices of premium models of bicycles - rather, he meant a keychain lol

            Exactly...
            everyone will be given a car laughing
        2. the most important
          the most important 18 May 2018 11: 05
          +7
          Quote: MPN
          "People with any income" will be able to afford such

          how far he is from the people .... and the abyss more and more! 12 times in two months they have already raised the price of gasoline, and this crocodile eats 25 liters. People are already turning everything out of their pockets, and they will also raise their retirement age. And then what? What will be done with those who dare to live to retirement?
          1. UVB
            UVB 18 May 2018 11: 25
            +3
            Quote: the most important
            how far he is from the people .... and the abyss more and more!

            Actually, the author lied a little. The President spoke about people with average incomes, and not with anyone.
            1. the most important
              the most important 18 May 2018 11: 29
              +7
              Quote: UVB
              Actually, the author lied a little. The President spoke about people with average incomes, and not with anyone.

              The average is 30. I have a little more, but I can’t even buy a new Lada. The rent, gas ... and you (or I) are all ... already a pauper.
          2. iouris
            iouris 18 May 2018 12: 37
            +1
            Quote: the most important
            What will be done with those who dare to live to retirement?

            Such cases will be extremely rare - everything is taken into account by a powerful hurricane.
      2. 210ox
        210ox 18 May 2018 09: 57
        0
        Vyacheslav, good afternoon .. Isn’t it time to revive the Volga brand in a good way ..
        Quote: sabakina
        I remember that the Russians were promised two Volga per voucher. Now one "Tuple". It remains to wait for a new voucher.
        Chemezov’s words that rich people often call him, who want to acquire “Tuple” in property.
        Fat cats saw a new toy. Then they will argue before each other, whose Cortege is cooler, with him or Putin?
      3. Ross xnumx
        Ross xnumx 18 May 2018 10: 00
        +9
        According to the president, the lineup “Cortage” turned out to be successful and minibuses: “they can be used for families with children.”

        And in my opinion, we will be dumped with SMS messages to “successful minibuses for families with children” so that they can get from ... repeat
        Here, a program recently passed that people who want to travel in Russia in minibuses and mobile homes are faced with the problem of the quality of roads, the availability of sites for camping with water, sewage and electricity. And then the approved armored capsule bus ... fellow
        - Give the hungry instead of bread a bouquet of flowers, he’ll probably lubricate you with this bouquet in his face ... Still the holes have not been patched, the wounds have not been healed, and we have already gone wherever.

        Yu.Nagibin. "Chair"
        1. kasatky
          kasatky 18 May 2018 13: 08
          +1
          Quote: ROSS 42
          And in my opinion, “successful minibuses for families with children,” we will be sms dumped so that they can purchase

          Can I! May I have the first SMS? I am very large. And mother-in-law (tears welling up in her eyes), forced to ride in the trunk while sitting on a bucket! I am ashamed to look into the traffic police in the eyes!
      4. Mikhail m
        Mikhail m 18 May 2018 10: 59
        0
        Quote: sabakina
        Then they will argue before each other, whose Cortege is cooler, with him or Putin?

        Tuning with straziks or pants has not been canceled.
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      6. g1v2
        g1v2 18 May 2018 17: 47
        +1
        This is great. Let them not buy maybachs, but Russian tuples. Well, let them measure pussy. The main thing is that the money earned in the Russian Federation should be spent here, and not left to German and British hard workers. Now let the yachts begin to build in Russia, and not in Germany. Contracts will come in handy for our shipyards. fellow
    2. dvina71
      dvina71 18 May 2018 09: 43
      +11
      Quote: Andrey K
      They build the Sperov conveyor, and then they put it on stream.

      The bodies will be assembled and painted in Likino-Dulyovo. At the GAZ plant. Only there is a bathtub of the right size. Further .. for assembly premium auto conveyor is not used. The machine is assembled on site, and the parts are delivered to it. Thus, the collector does not limit the time for the work performed. Thousands of them will not produce. Even taking into account the replacement of government and regional garages .. this is a few hundred maximum. There’s no need to talk about commercial sales .. Rather, KAMAZ on which the GDP crossed the KRM .. they are sold five times more expensive than the new one, there is interest in it as part of the story .. The motorcade is still nothing and its name is nothing .. (if we talk about commercial application).
    3. Shrpv
      Shrpv 18 May 2018 10: 03
      +2
      If it is at a premium level and is in demand, then this is super. Testing the highest technology in automotive industry. In the future there is an opportunity, simplifying and cheapening a little to master the classes below. It’s better to move from top to bottom if you have competencies.

      Master S class first then E. Create another brand cheaper than AuRus. And then to transfer from foreign cars to the Volga, and to the younger brother of the Senate, the officials and the rich run to run, so that like the president. Good marketing. Already the market will not be small for this class.
      1. AlexVas44
        AlexVas44 18 May 2018 10: 11
        +2
        Quote: Shrpv
        In the future there is an opportunity, simplifying and cheapening a little to master the classes below.

        For "people with any incomes" - a dermatine top, tarpaulin aprons - these are doors. "Tuple" of course, but even this does not pull with our average income. request
        1. Shrpv
          Shrpv 18 May 2018 10: 20
          0
          Why a motorcade. Experience in the development of hybrid plants, gearboxes at 1000 Nm, suspensions ... Yes, there are many new competencies. And it’s easier to go from complex to simple. The engine is cut in half, not already 650 but 325 is already a different class.
      2. gukoyan
        gukoyan 18 May 2018 10: 11
        +2
        "Development of the highest technologies of automotive engineering. In the future there is the possibility, simplifying and cheapening a little to master the classes below."
        Well, well ... In any case, these homodoils will find how to cut on this "conveyor" ... It's the same as the Russian Federation, I haven’t deceived here, the day went in vain)))
      3. the most important
        the most important 18 May 2018 11: 10
        +3
        Quote: Shrpv
        bureaucrats and rich run away to run, so that like the president.

        Why don’t you run away ... not for yourselves this holiday. The budget is big! Do not spend it on hospitals!
      4. Korax71
        Korax71 18 May 2018 12: 24
        +5
        The Porsche engine, the box is not Nashi’s, the control unit and electronics are the same song, the mattress audio system, the brakes and braking systems are also European, optics-France. In the future, they will master production, but only in a very distant one, so much that it is not visible from here. as if they promised that about 150 enterprises would be involved in the production. but all the most high-tech for some reason imported. I don’t think that the highest technology of automobile construction or production will be involved in the production of the same ball bearings.
        1. Muvka
          Muvka 18 May 2018 12: 35
          0
          Can you provide links to everything you wrote? Only to reputable sources?
          1. Korax71
            Korax71 18 May 2018 16: 47
            -2
            If it’s not hard then on specialized sites such as Drom.ru there was an article on the newspaper gru.ru website, I still read God knows when, they already discussed it in VO. Sorry, I didn’t save the links. But the four-wheel drive does the Haldex and does something for the brake systems, for sure. almost all manufacturers of this class make them with armored cars. Our boxers seem to promise their own, but most likely it will be a copy of the ZF. It's not a secret about the engine at all, even those that will be produced with the piston group will be unified with Porsche. if we turn to history, then we don’t have a single engine for a car without the involvement of foreign specialists. and on the first issues a German motor will be. in short, there will still be foreign spare parts in an import-substituted car bully look for the sake of interest of what is left of the domestic well, for example, in the same KamAZ.
            1. Merold
              Merold 18 May 2018 21: 09
              0
              Quote: Korax71
              but what all-wheel drive does Haldeks and something for the brake system, for sure ..

              For all-wheel drive attracted Magna. Haldex made a clutch in the drive.

              according to korobas our as if promise their own, but most likely it will be a copy of ZF

              Not. KATE says they made a very good box.
        2. Merold
          Merold 18 May 2018 21: 04
          +2
          Quote: Korax71
          , the box is not Nashi’s.

          German ZF. Then KATE firms promise.

          Quote: Korax71
          mattress audio system,

          Harman / Kardon
          brakes and brake systems identity european

          Brembo
          optics france

          VALEO

          All Wheel Drive - Magna
          Coupling - Haldex
          Well, and EDAG, Bentley ...
          And yes, it’s a completely Russian car.
      5. iouris
        iouris 18 May 2018 12: 43
        0
        Quote: Shrpv
        If it is at a premium level and is in demand, then this is super.

        This is a deeply tuned armored car. It’s just that recently the development of Internet things has reached such a level that it has become dangerous for leaders of the state to ride and fly in Western vehicles. Most likely, the demand for this will be limited by state orders. Of course, somewhere in Japan or China, there are a dozen cranks ready to pay any money for possession.
        Until the information about the on-board computers, sensors, automatic control systems for the car and engine is disclosed, it is difficult to judge the level of competence of developers and manufacturers. The conditions for a qualitative leap in this matter in the previous period were not noticeable.
    4. Vladimir K.
      Vladimir K. 18 May 2018 10: 05
      0
      The word "conveyor" here has a figurative meaning - such machines are not assembled on conveyors. Here the main problem is to establish the production of high-quality components at an affordable price.
    5. Bar1
      Bar1 18 May 2018 10: 40
      +2
      600 strong engine, and even the electrical installation! Does a simple consumer need such a car? How many eats per hundred? Only oligarch-rich moneybags can afford such a thing or binoculars who do not pay out of their pocket. Well, and attach a punisher for a tuple, that would fight off the people.

      1. gukoyan
        gukoyan 18 May 2018 10: 51
        0
        "A 600 horsepower engine, and even an electrical installation! Does a simple consumer need such a car? How much does it consume per hundred?"
        It’s not even a matter of expense ... Imagine what kind of tax for 600 mares comes ...
        1. Tatanka Yotanka
          Tatanka Yotanka 18 May 2018 14: 26
          0
          Quote: gukoyan
          Imagine what kind of tax for 600 mares comes.

          So everyone will register in Chechnya fellow
    6. Petr1
      Petr1 18 May 2018 11: 32
      +1
      The new domestic car is good, but only for whom is it, who will ride it, really people?
      1. Bar1
        Bar1 18 May 2018 12: 27
        +1
        Quote: Petr1
        The new domestic car is good, but only for whom is it, who will ride it, really people?

        need to steal 10mil. then you can afford it.
      2. Vadim237
        Vadim237 18 May 2018 13: 14
        +1
        Only: bankers, officials, top managers and businessmen.
      3. iouris
        iouris 19 May 2018 20: 43
        +1
        RF in the WTO since 2012. Domestic cars do not exist. And this one too.
  2. Santa Fe
    Santa Fe 18 May 2018 09: 25
    +4
    In principle, everything that the president said can not be discussed
    We need to discuss the results, but we will know about them later.
  3. evil partisan
    evil partisan 18 May 2018 09: 26
    +5
    "Chartovoz", a jeep, a motorcycle ... Che, can you expect a speed APC "Cortege", galleries? what
    1. kapitan92
      kapitan92 18 May 2018 09: 34
      +16
      But the fig is needed, this "Tuple"? Money nowhere to go? 12,4 billion rubles ?! There is no money for the purchase of the latest weapons: Kurganets, Armata, you can continue to transfer.
      This is pampering, and cheap PR is to transfer officials to this machine. Feast in Time of Plague!!! am
      1. Muvka
        Muvka 18 May 2018 09: 38
        +13
        Actually, this is the development of a large line of cars. Engines make up to 2 pots. You do not want the rise of the domestic auto industry? Or do you need to swell all the money in the military commissar?
        1. Andrey K
          Andrey K 18 May 2018 09: 41
          +9
          Quote: Muvka
          .... Or do you need to swell all the money in the military commissar? ...

          It is necessary to live within our means, to calculate desires and opportunities.
          Set priorities and not confuse projections with reality.
        2. kapitan92
          kapitan92 18 May 2018 09: 46
          +11
          Quote: Muvka
          You do not want the rise of the domestic auto industry? Or do you need to swell all the money in the military commissar?

          You won’t be fed up with the car industry and you won’t cure people! We import 90% of insulin - in Russia 10 million diabetics, only one plant is being built, which will close 20 percent of the needs. 80-90% import of seed stock!? Though! The government has already carried out import substitution - "normal flight."
          Voenka, as you call her, has always pulled out the country's economy, and at the moment it is the flagship of economic recovery, jobs, taxes. hi
          1. Simargl
            Simargl 18 May 2018 10: 10
            +3
            Quote: kapitan92
            You won't be fed up with the car industry
            In fact, the auto industry is one of the most important engines of the economy! This is R&D, and production, i.e. taxes.
            1. AUL
              AUL 18 May 2018 14: 37
              +1
              In fact, the auto industry is one of the most important engines of the economy! This is R&D, and production, i.e. taxes.
              And why not start the rise of the auto industry from AvtoVAZ? There will be demand, respectively, and industry profits. And to breed a bootleg from scratch for the production of 500 cars (and it is still unclear whether there will be a demand for our bureaucrats and oligarchs in Russia). And new, advanced technologies can also be used in VAZs!
              1. Simargl
                Simargl 18 May 2018 15: 25
                0
                Quote: AUL
                And why not start the rise of the auto industry from AvtoVAZ?
                It (AvtoVAZ), it seems, was not scored. Produces normal cars (except for Priora what ).
                Quote: AUL
                And to breed a bootleg from scratch for the sake of release of 500 cars
                I don’t know how they will stamp bodywork, but I will assume that a lot of manual labor - the matrix, even for such an exclusive - will be very expensive. Although ... who knows how they are doing it now.
                The engine will be put not only on the "Tuple", it is made, it seems, scalable, i.e. can be put from "Oka" to ... "Aurus" Senate "limousine" ...
                Those. the body is exclusive, and the aggregates are in the masses.
                Quote: AUL
                And new, advanced technologies can also be used in VAZs!
                VAZ has never been in the executive class. GAS, ZIL, but not VAZ. Now the largest VAZ is Vesta.
                But will there be a piece of the engine from the "Senate" limousine in the descendants of Vesta (or in Vesta?) - we will see.
                Perhaps GAZ will try to resume the production of passenger cars.
                1. Alf
                  Alf 18 May 2018 17: 07
                  0
                  Quote: Simargl
                  It (AvtoVAZ), it seems, was not scored. Produces normal cars (except for Priora)

                  But does AvtoVAZ belong to Russia? 67% Renault Nissan.
                  1. morved
                    morved 19 May 2018 02: 16
                    +1
                    And what's the difference to whom it belongs if Russian workers and designers work and it is paid by us? Actually, all over the world this is called foreign investment and everyone makes every effort to attract them ;-)
                    1. Alf
                      Alf 19 May 2018 18: 18
                      0
                      Quote: morved
                      Do you pay taxes?

                      Still not tired of writing about taxes? And where does PROFIT go?
                      Remind me, please, which of the latest VAZ novelties in Russia was DEVELOPED, but not produced?
                      1. morved
                        morved 21 May 2018 10: 02
                        0
                        Vesta is not just a model but a platform, poorly to name at least a dozen countries that have developed their platform over the past ten years?
                        Grant Cross
                        iksrey (jointly but ours took an active part in the development).
                        The engines of our development are placed on the same Datsun.

                        Now for the profit. I’m not hysterical, I don’t like to write with a cipher, but I'm not too lazy to be interested in reporting, so AvtoVAZ invested all the money in production and did not pay any dividends until 2017, Ford and Volkswagen invested a significant part of the profit in the construction of motor plants.

                        It is difficult for hamsters to understand, but taxes and salaries exceed the profit that the owners of the enterprise take in the domestic auto industry ;-)
        3. Ross xnumx
          Ross xnumx 18 May 2018 10: 07
          +7
          Quote: Muvka
          You do not want the rise of the domestic auto industry? Or do you need to swell all the money in the military commissar?

          When in Germany they wanted to raise the domestic auto industry, they made the Volkswagen W12 Syncro Concept. Now German quality is much appreciated. And we have tonsils cut through ... the anus. Therefore, they raise the domestic auto industry with various troubles such as the surrender of old cars and the creation of armored "Tuples." Why is it so surprising? belay We are reviving space programs (domestic) due to the mandatory sale of RD-180 to the USA ... repeat
        4. zhekazs
          zhekazs 18 May 2018 11: 00
          +3
          Quote: kapitan92
          Feast in Time of Plague!!!

          I agree. Not from that start. It's like the tonsils through the anus are cut.
          Quote: Muvka
          You do not want the rise of the domestic auto industry?

          No one argues that the auto industry needs to be raised precisely on the basis of its personnel, ideas and developments. And if there are currently such developments as:
          Quote: Muvka
          Engines make up to 2 pots.

          then why not master the production of a mass car, cheap, up to 200-300 thousand rubles, even a weak engine, cheaper materials, but for the economy it will be a big plus - new jobs, production, own technologies, services, taxes and tp How to buy someone else’s technology and components for screwdriver assembly and pay in someone else’s pocket. About 20 years ago, they all spat on Chinese cars, and now their quality has become no worse than the Koreans who a little earlier went the way of the Chinese automobile industry. Someone will say, yes, I’d better add 200-400 kilo rubles and take that Ford than a raw domestic car. So take your Ford, then pay for imported components at exorbitant prices. In any case, the subsequent operation of the domestic car will be cheaper than a foreign car. For many, this will be a determining factor and your domestic car will always find its buyer. And I think that these 12 billion were worth spending primarily on mass popular cars, and not on wunder-crafts, do not understand for anyone and with an incomprehensible economic effect ...
          ZY: When they showed this motorcade on the president’s oath, to be honest, it was a little disappointing when they said that a whole line of VIP cars was developed. Apparently, such cars are much more important for officials. Hehe ....
        5. the most important
          the most important 18 May 2018 11: 21
          +5
          Quote: Muvka
          Actually, this is the development of a large line of cars. Engines make up to 2 pots. You do not want the rise of the domestic auto industry?

          And Germany began the development of its car industry with Maybach? And it always seemed to me that in the beginning there were the most affordable cars for PEOPLE. The beetle was released in a circulation of more than 21 million pieces! Give Maybach to you! Only bureaucrats at the expense of the budget will take it.
          1. Muvka
            Muvka 18 May 2018 12: 37
            0
            Quote: the most important
            Quote: Muvka
            Actually, this is the development of a large line of cars. Engines make up to 2 pots. You do not want the rise of the domestic auto industry?

            And Germany began the development of its car industry with Maybach? And it always seemed to me that in the beginning there were the most affordable cars for PEOPLE. The beetle was released in a circulation of more than 21 million pieces! Give Maybach to you! Only bureaucrats at the expense of the budget will take it.

            Remind me when it was? How many competitors did the German automobile industry have? Now you just can’t get on the market.
            1. Alf
              Alf 18 May 2018 17: 10
              +1
              Quote: Muvka
              Remind me when it was? How many competitors did the German automobile industry have? Now you just can’t get on the market.

              And you try again to put the six on the series and see how many people want to buy it. Well, of course, if our valiant state does not set a price for it at 500 tyrov.
      2. Alex-a832
        Alex-a832 18 May 2018 09: 51
        +1
        Quote: kapitan92
        But the fig is needed, this "Tuple"? Money nowhere to go? 12,4 billion rubles ?! There is no money for the purchase of the latest weapons: Kurganets, Armata, you can continue to transfer.
        This is pampering, and cheap PR is to transfer officials to this machine. Feast in Time of Plague!!! am

        Do not panic. I doubt that the main investment is from the state budget. And the creation of a new high-tech production of luxury mobiles and new jobs for highly qualified specialists in Russia will not hurt. Another issue is the efficiency of using investments.
        1. kapitan92
          kapitan92 18 May 2018 09: 58
          +11
          Quote: Alex-a832
          Another issue is the efficiency of using investments.

          You answered your question! Which investor will invest in a hopeless business, so do not be surprised if everything goes from the budget.
          The market for these cars in Russia is extremely small, not fat. Abroad, nobody needs this miracle.
          Small-scale production with dubious quality is really a good investment.! laughing hi
          1. Alex-a832
            Alex-a832 18 May 2018 10: 12
            0
            Quote: kapitan92
            You answered your question! Which investor will invest in a hopeless business, so do not be surprised if everything goes from the budget.
            The market for these cars in Russia is extremely small, not fat. Abroad, nobody needs this miracle.
            Small-scale production with dubious quality is really a good investment.!

            I assure you that there are such investors. For this, power keeps a loyal oligarchy. Under capitalism, their “darlings” cannot be dispensed with ... lol hi
            1. kapitan92
              kapitan92 18 May 2018 14: 20
              +4
              Quote: Alex-a832
              I assure you that there are such investors. For this, power keeps a loyal oligarchy. Under capitalism, their “darlings” cannot be dispensed with.

              Of course there are - the same friend of Garant Rotenberg, only then he will fully receive compensation from the budget, under various pretexts. laughing hi
          2. Alf
            Alf 18 May 2018 17: 12
            +1
            Quote: kapitan92
            Small-scale production with dubious quality is really a good investment.!

            That's it ! Money-mastered (races..ny), no buyers, price-horse. Who is to blame, a small series.
    2. Shrpv
      Shrpv 18 May 2018 10: 04
      +2
      Bicycle. Armored.
      1. Vadim237
        Vadim237 18 May 2018 13: 17
        0
        The bike is titanium.
  4. alexnmv5
    alexnmv5 18 May 2018 09: 33
    +1
    It looks beautiful, but it needs a whole gamut of engines, including diesel ones ..
    1. gukoyan
      gukoyan 18 May 2018 11: 25
      0
      Brick on wheels, what's beautiful about it?
  5. Abram
    Abram 18 May 2018 09: 33
    +18
    "expressed hope that" people with any incomes "will be able to afford such cars" aha, and also each Tu-160 in civilian modification, a motorcycle, jet phone and all this from retirement. Absolutely King in the astral
    1. Alf
      Alf 18 May 2018 17: 14
      +1
      Quote: Abram
      Absolutely King in the astral

      And he didn’t go out of there. Especially if, after 18 years of reign, Putin said that "we must understand Russia."
  6. Egorovich
    Egorovich 18 May 2018 09: 35
    +4
    "People with any income can afford" to buy a car for 6-7 million rubles. Sounds damaging.
    1. Muvka
      Muvka 18 May 2018 09: 39
      +2
      These are existing cars. Which already have so much. And we must make a whole line, right down to the machines that we can afford. Stop pulling phrases out of context.
      1. Wedmak
        Wedmak 18 May 2018 09: 49
        +4
        And we must make a whole line, right down to the machines that we can afford.

        I would like to believe, but let's get into reality - not everyone can even afford new AvtoVAZ crafts. Moreover, the price is growing every year, and it seems that next year for the top versions it will go for 1 million.
        Although of course, when compared with foreign cars in picking, Vesta and Hrei while in the gain.
      2. Alf
        Alf 18 May 2018 17: 16
        0
        Quote: Muvka
        And we must make a whole line, right down to the machines that we can afford.

        It will be interesting to look at the car, which
        Quote: Muvka
        we can afford
        grown from the model family of Cortege.
    2. bouncyhunter
      bouncyhunter 18 May 2018 09: 42
      +2
      Hi Sasha ! hi The price is high because the unit assembly. I think that with the installation on the conveyor, the price will decrease.
      1. Egorovich
        Egorovich 18 May 2018 10: 10
        +1
        Pasha, hello hi ! Even after the delivery of this machine to the stream, the price will be in the region of more than two lemons, do not go to your grandmother. Every hard worker just wants to buy this "Tuple", only not many can. request
        1. bouncyhunter
          bouncyhunter 18 May 2018 10: 13
          +2
          It is clear that in any case, the car will be expensive. But agree: 2 lemons are better and more affordable than 6-7. Plus, if you install by installments on good terms.
          1. Egorovich
            Egorovich 18 May 2018 10: 27
            +1
            Pasha, I don’t argue, you can buy, but the question is to whom? It is said: "with any income." I’m 57 years old, I have a pension of 19000 rubles. I’ll cry for a hundred years. In my city, the average salary in the region of 30000 rubles .. If you take money from a bank, then the price of a car will increase for 3 lemons. "Cheap" pleasure.
            1. bouncyhunter
              bouncyhunter 18 May 2018 10: 40
              +1
              Quote: Egorovich
              question to whom?

              Apparently, the one who overrides to have a "Tuple" in his garage or under the windows. what
              1. Egorovich
                Egorovich 18 May 2018 10: 44
                +2
                That's why the bulk of the people on this machine are not worth opening their eyes.
  7. Altona
    Altona 18 May 2018 09: 36
    +5
    Why do we need cars for 7 million? We need good cars for 700 thousand-Vesta, Sander, Kia and the like. What a silly wish.
    1. Nehist
      Nehist 19 May 2018 02: 08
      +1
      I'll tell you honestly !!! For West, more than 300 thousand to give up the top of idiocy. For 700 it’s really easier to get a Kia or Daevo or how to bring a slightly used Japanese from us who is several times more reliable more economical and more comfortable
  8. Thunderbolt
    Thunderbolt 18 May 2018 09: 38
    +5
    "People of any income" will be able to afford such machines.
    But didn’t you try to descend to the ground?
  9. Wedmak
    Wedmak 18 May 2018 09: 39
    +1
    Price - from 6-7 million rubles.

    also expressed the hope that "people with any income" will be able to afford such machines

    It is fantastic...
    1. mkop
      mkop 18 May 2018 10: 48
      +1
      Maybe those who did not enter this cohort of "people with any income" are simply not holding people?
  10. Larum
    Larum 18 May 2018 09: 39
    +3
    Already been ... Alas ...
    First he gave instructions, then he chided for non-execution ...
  11. Altona
    Altona 18 May 2018 09: 40
    +10
    Quote: Abram
    Absolutely King in the astral

    ---------------------------
    The king was elected in 76% of the vote. So he expels. A 7 million car is an addressable product, and certainly not a mass one. And Shuvalov’s car generally costs 45 million Rolls-Royce Silver Phantom, so he is unlikely to need this product.
    1. Krasnodar
      Krasnodar 18 May 2018 10: 11
      0
      Quote: Altona
      Quote: Abram
      Absolutely King in the astral

      ---------------------------
      The king was elected in 76% of the vote. So he expels. A 7 million car is an addressable product, and certainly not a mass one. And Shuvalov’s car generally costs 45 million Rolls-Royce Silver Phantom, so he is unlikely to need this product.

      Phantom 2-3 taphole can be taken for 21 million. I can imagine what Shuvalov’s stuffing is.
      1. mkop
        mkop 18 May 2018 10: 52
        +3
        I just can hardly imagine Shuvalov looking for a Rolls-Royce two-three-year-old, in a used market. Such Shuvalov sits in front of the monitor, looks at the Avito or the carprice (or where they are sold there right now) a car ...
    2. Krev
      Krev 18 May 2018 10: 50
      +1
      Well, we didn’t need him either. Guided, thanks, goodbye ...
  12. Polkovnik parker
    Polkovnik parker 18 May 2018 09: 47
    +9
    For 7 lyam I would rather buy a Mercedes S class than this unknown miracle car. It would be better for the people to learn how to make normal cars.
    1. gukoyan
      gukoyan 18 May 2018 10: 14
      +4
      I fully support.
    2. Alf
      Alf 18 May 2018 17: 18
      0
      Quote: Polkovnik Parker
      It would be better for the people to learn how to make normal cars.

      So for the "people" this is a miracle and they are going to release it. And if someone is not on the list, then "they did not fit into the market."
    3. morved
      morved 19 May 2018 02: 25
      0
      A classic example of explaining the taste of oysters from whoever did not eat them. Merin S class and this car suddenly are not competitors from the word at all.
      And at the expense of cars for the people, well, West, grant and further localized by a third / half from Solaris to Camry.
      But you just want to poke, you are not interested in reality ;-)
  13. The Siberian barber
    The Siberian barber 18 May 2018 09: 51
    +7
    Lada Kalina - uh ??) Such an epic rally was ...))
    Now the "Tuple" ... Moreover, the "family" laughing
    Chubais recalled, with a light bulb, from his pocket, at a reception at Medvedev ... all with smart faces ...
    And yet, the "genius of Russian business" Prokhorov, with his "ё"
    1. dvina71
      dvina71 18 May 2018 10: 07
      +2
      Kalina is not a mustache .. is sold normally .. and for export too ..

      Prokhorov wanted to go on a Soviet project. True, he was planned for heavy trucks. Only on such rolling stock can the declared savings be achieved. Passenger cars .. with a torn city pace .. even a hybrid .. even not a hybrid .. one expense.
      Someone convinced him that a rotary vane engine would help .. how easy it is to conduct a person without a technical education ...
      1. The Siberian barber
        The Siberian barber 18 May 2018 10: 43
        +3
        Always belonged to the domestic auto industry, with a fair amount of skepticism.
        For, there is nothing to compare, alas
        1. morved
          morved 19 May 2018 02: 27
          0
          Yes, and a lot of superior non-domestic cars in the price segment Kalina Grants?
  14. gukoyan
    gukoyan 18 May 2018 10: 02
    +8
    I can’t buy such a trough for a hundred thousand, for the money you can buy a Mercedes-Benz W222 in excellent configuration.
    Will there be a limousine, a jeep and a mozak on one base, but will roller skates be big?
    I want to be great - Cortege)))))
    1. evil partisan
      evil partisan 18 May 2018 15: 02
      +1
      Quote: gukoyan
      I want to be great - Cortege

      Easily. fellow True, 2 jeeps with security are attached to it yes . Ready to pay? wink
      1. gukoyan
        gukoyan 18 May 2018 19: 54
        +1
        Hehehe, not a cheap pleasure, we will dream further)))
  15. Laksamana besar
    Laksamana besar 18 May 2018 10: 06
    +4
    6-7 million price is obsolete, before the Cortege family was equated to Mercedes S and BMW 7, now Manturov classified them as Mercedes Maybach and Rolls-Royce, from 10 million they will cost, but they promised a cost of 15% lower than they . wink
    1. raw174
      raw174 18 May 2018 10: 24
      +3
      Quote: Laksamana Besar
      from 10 million will cost.

      I will save! I'll take it in 150 years good my Priorka was being brought in by that time ...
      1. Laksamana besar
        Laksamana besar 18 May 2018 10: 31
        +1
        Do not have time, in 2029, the production of the Cortege will end (at least they talked about it), in advance to another mine from the future Aurus family? if any. smile
        1. gukoyan
          gukoyan 18 May 2018 10: 39
          0
          Used will buy if this Tuple does not fall apart by then)))
          1. raw174
            raw174 18 May 2018 11: 56
            +1
            Quote: gukoyan
            Used will buy if this Tuple does not fall apart by then))

            They say from the inauguration Putin went on foot what
            1. Alf
              Alf 18 May 2018 17: 20
              0
              Quote: raw174
              They say from the inauguration Putin went on foot

              One out of two.
              Or not the royal car was blinded.
              Or not arrived.
          2. Vadim237
            Vadim237 18 May 2018 13: 20
            0
            The main thing is that the body was with anticorrosive.
  16. Krasnodar
    Krasnodar 18 May 2018 10: 09
    +4
    For 6-7 Lyamov, you can take a pretty stuffed S class three years ago, and for some reason I’m sure that there will be less problems with it than with the New “Tuple”.
    1. Vladivostok1969
      Vladivostok1969 18 May 2018 10: 39
      0
      6,5 million worth the new LEXUS LX 570. Can each of us afford it?
    2. gukoyan
      gukoyan 18 May 2018 10: 43
      +2
      So I am the proud owner of a Mercedes-Benz car, neither representative, nor an old E-shki, I do not know the worries and extra noise ... And it’s nice and comfortable, though I eat more Priors, but I’m ready to pay for it.
      I feel more confident at times, not just in Russian, where as in Russian roulette, xs what will happen today.
  17. Karabin
    Karabin 18 May 2018 10: 14
    +7
    The Russian leader also expressed the hope that “people of any income” will be able to afford such machines.

    Apparently 76% of the president runs the Country of Pink Ponies, not the Russian Federation.
    in the line "Cortege" there will be not only cars, but also a motorcycle: "They have already prepared it, but did not manage to bring it to mind." According to him, the motorcycle turned out to be very beautiful and "in its characteristics is not inferior to Western models."
    It must be better
    noted Putin. In response, Chemezov promised that it would be so.

    How else. Bear Putin's should be any cooler than Harley Davidson.
    1. cats
      cats 18 May 2018 17: 53
      0
      Quote: Karabin

      Apparently 76% of the president runs the Pink Pony Country, not the Russian Federation

      No, just someone inattentively read ..
      Do you really want a limousine? Even here they say that a foreigner of this class
      for the money, only second-hand and justified ... happens.
      It is written that the line will be right up to the clunker .. hi
  18. _Ugene_
    _Ugene_ 18 May 2018 10: 19
    +5
    The Russian leader also expressed the hope that “people of any income” will be able to afford such machines.
    It was also reported that in 2019 the cars will appear on free sale. Price - from 6-7 million rubles.
    a curtain
  19. Altona
    Altona 18 May 2018 10: 20
    0
    Quote: dvina71
    Kalina is not a mustache .. is sold normally .. and for export too ..

    --------------------------
    Vesta in the station wagon looks gorgeous. I really liked.
    1. Krasnodar
      Krasnodar 18 May 2018 10: 33
      +3
      Quote: Altona
      Quote: dvina71
      Kalina is not a mustache .. is sold normally .. and for export too ..

      --------------------------
      Vesta in the station wagon looks gorgeous. I really liked.

      And it stands in a complete set above the lama.
      I sold my Eshka 2010 last year for a million. In picking Vanguard. Two questions:
      What kind of car would you prefer to buy for the money.
      What clever man deals with pricing Lada?
      1. Alf
        Alf 18 May 2018 17: 22
        +2
        Quote: Krasnodar
        What clever man deals with pricing Lada?

        The Renault-Nissan Corporation, which EARNS money in Russia, and is not worried about the problem of Russian horselessness.
      2. morved
        morved 19 May 2018 02: 31
        0
        It would be softer, to compare the cost of a NEW and an 8-year-old car is not just not smart, but as if ..... Regarding classmates, the price of Vesta is quite competitive, and therefore it is for sale.
  20. Altona
    Altona 18 May 2018 10: 21
    +1
    Quote: Krasnodar
    For 6-7 Lyamov, you can take a pretty stuffed S class three years ago, and for some reason I’m sure that there will be less problems with it than with the New “Tuple”.

    ----------------------------
    Our people are not poor. Has funds for prestigious cars. laughing
  21. raw174
    raw174 18 May 2018 10: 22
    +1
    it’s hard to imagine a more “inappropriate” place for such a disaster.

    Question WHERE? To assemble a couple of three cars is one thing, but for mass production you need a conveyor ... At GAZ? With gazelle together? ..
    1. shura7782
      shura7782 18 May 2018 14: 56
      +2
      At the Izhevsk Automobile Plant.
      wassat
  22. Altona
    Altona 18 May 2018 10: 35
    +1
    Quote: Krasnodar
    And it stands in a complete set above the lama.

    ------------------------
    So I don’t have a car. I don’t get it.
  23. Gnefredov
    Gnefredov 18 May 2018 10: 45
    0
    'Combat 98' will be more interesting in terms of purchase. Justified by the fact that the 98th for many years on the slipway. Plus booking and other nishtyaki are already included in the basic package.
  24. Andrey Yuryevich
    Andrey Yuryevich 18 May 2018 10: 46
    +3
    Like Putin. "Tuple" put on the conveyor ...
    smile . sounds like half a ditty ... who will continue? laughing
    1. gukoyan
      gukoyan 18 May 2018 11: 28
      +3
      I would have continued, but banned for Matyuki))))
  25. Romanenko
    Romanenko 18 May 2018 10: 56
    +1
    I really want to get into the group "people with any income", it hurts for them to make good cars laughing
    1. Alf
      Alf 18 May 2018 17: 24
      0
      Quote: Romanenko
      I'd like to get into the group "people with any income"

      There is a colleague with a number, so he says to any similar question, we need to work more.
      1. Romanenko
        Romanenko 18 May 2018 21: 36
        0
        This method will not work in our country, so the colleague with the number did not guess.
  26. Million
    Million 18 May 2018 11: 01
    +1
    Is there anything Russian in this car besides the name?
    1. 100502
      100502 19 May 2018 07: 31
      +1
      Soaked in Russian spirit)
  27. Konatantin 1992
    Konatantin 1992 18 May 2018 11: 03
    +8
    How much is it from foreign components and technologies? I remember a figure approaching 80, and yes, a Porshe engine? Well, the design of an unsuccessful copy of Rolls Royce Phantom))) Auto was developed for about 6 years, and 24 billion rubles were allocated for the development, 12,5 are budget ones. Cool car)) You will not say anything, PEREMOGA
    1. raw174
      raw174 18 May 2018 12: 05
      +2
      Quote: Konatantin 1992
      Porshe engine?

      It seems like they said that it was developed with the participation of Porsche engineers, but this is not the same ... Who owns the rights to production, that’s what determines, I think, Russia.
      Quote: Konatantin 1992
      well, the design of the unsuccessful copy of the Rolls Royce Phantom

      Not everything is so simple with design, designers adhere to fashion trends ... Look at budget cars, almost all of them are performed in the same style, design is the work of artists, and they are inspired by the same music ...
      Quote: Konatantin 1992
      PEREMOGA

      Yes, it seems nobody talked about overtaxing ... but I welcome the fact that our president will drive our car and it looks like this will become a new fashion among the upper echelons of power ...
    2. Vadim237
      Vadim237 18 May 2018 13: 28
      0
      And to develop and launch a car from scratch in series is not a cheap pleasure.
    3. Raf01
      Raf01 18 May 2018 23: 20
      +2
      For 24 billion, you can buy 1000 phantoms or mulsans. Will 1000 of these aurases do everything?
    4. The comment was deleted.
      1. 100502
        100502 19 May 2018 07: 30
        0
        Engine from Kamaz huh?
        1. morved
          morved 19 May 2018 12: 41
          0
          Moreover, they presented their development long before the motorcade; I saw it at MIAS-2016.
  28. naidas
    naidas 18 May 2018 11: 45
    0
    I can’t overpower such a machine, if there is a scooter like Putin’s?
    1. raw174
      raw174 18 May 2018 12: 07
      +2
      Quote: naidas
      I can’t overpower such a machine, if there is a scooter like Putin’s?

      Wimp! My bati had a Niva like Putin’s (simpler equipment) wink
    2. Tatanka Yotanka
      Tatanka Yotanka 18 May 2018 14: 54
      +1
      Quote: naidas
      now if there is a scooter like Putin?

      take a scooter from a friend of Putin fellow
  29. sustav75
    sustav75 18 May 2018 11: 45
    +4
    Minibus for 6 lyam for the family of Sechin, Miller, Gref! Putin lives in a different world ...
  30. cariperpaint
    cariperpaint 18 May 2018 11: 57
    +3
    I'm wallowing with comments
    1. The Siberian barber
      The Siberian barber 18 May 2018 12: 07
      +1
      Perhaps you can comment in more detail? Please, please.)
  31. Altona
    Altona 18 May 2018 12: 33
    +1
    Quote: raw174
    my Priorka was being brought in by that time ...

    ---------------------------
    Go to Kalina Cross, or Vesta Cross. Why do you need bourgeois pathos? What difference does it bring your ass? (Already the verses have developed). laughing laughing
  32. Altona
    Altona 18 May 2018 12: 33
    +3
    Quote: cariperpaint
    I'm wallowing with comments

    -------------------------
    Under your car? Running a repair? laughing
    1. gukoyan
      gukoyan 18 May 2018 19: 58
      0
      He didn’t have enough for the Cortege, that’s the evil one lying around))))
  33. 16112014nk
    16112014nk 18 May 2018 14: 51
    +2
    Not impressed. ZIL was much better. yes This is some kind of Rolls-Royce plagiarism.
  34. shura7782
    shura7782 18 May 2018 14: 51
    +1
    Price - from 6-7 million rubles.
    Is he made of rare earth metals ?!
    1. 100502
      100502 18 May 2018 18: 31
      +3
      Yes, Chubais himself designed the nano motor
  35. DimerVladimer
    DimerVladimer 18 May 2018 14: 54
    +1
    12,4 billion rubles.

    Started at 1 billion

    Your car at all costs ...

    However, not cheap services in the project Porsche Engineering - an engineering integrator
    1. morved
      morved 19 May 2018 02: 45
      0
      The creation of the Volkswagen MQB cost 70 billion euros
      As if now creating a car platform is prohibitively expensive and the motorcade against this background looks extremely economical.
      1. DimerVladimer
        DimerVladimer 21 May 2018 08: 17
        0
        Quote: morved
        The creation of the Volkswagen MQB cost 70 billion euros
        As if now creating a car platform is prohibitively expensive and the motorcade against this background looks extremely economical.


        VW plans to build more than 40 models of new vehicles on the MQB platform


        Given the volume of VW production (the second-third largest car in the world in terms of production 10,74 million in 2017) - 70 billion Euros in costs, which allow saving on the development of passenger cars for the group as a whole - do not look prohibitive, but quite economically feasible.

        Taking into account the plans for the production of the “Cortege” car - several hundred cars a year (God forbid they reach 1000 sales per year) - these costs look like pure PR - money wasted.
        I would like to be mistaken, but this is not the first case of empty, ill-considered expenses.

        If they continued to develop the theme of the ё-mobile for the mass segment - that would look promising.
        1. morved
          morved 21 May 2018 09: 54
          0
          And what does the production volume have to do with it? I just indicated how much the development of a new platform now costs. You can give examples of other manufacturers, but still, we managed to create the platform most cheaply.

          And what is wrong with the mass segment so that the state spends its money on developing machines for it? You want to buy purely domestic, you want localized, but everything is very very good there.

          For a country like Russia, your own representative car is needed, the same as you were whining that the president drives a Mercedes, and the PR of the entire domestic auto industry is not bad, taking into account the ever-increasing export of cars from Russia (including localized models), this is very useful investment. And well done that do not focus on the presidential car and spread the cost of developing the platform for private cars.
          1. DimerVladimer
            DimerVladimer 21 May 2018 15: 04
            +1
            Quote: morved
            For a country like Russia, your own representative car is needed, the same as you were whining that the president drives a Mercedes, and the PR of the entire domestic auto industry is not bad, taking into account the ever-increasing export of cars from Russia (including localized models), this is very useful investment. And well done that do not focus on the presidential car and spread the cost of developing the platform for private cars.


            Yes, which I would not say - it is not your business - do not stick your nose in the commentary that is currently in force.
            If it’s hard for you to delve into the price / demand - I’ll explain - at VW concern the development is scattered over 70-80 million cars.
            The Cortege has 12,4 billion rupees - for 100-500 cars - it would be cheaper to buy Maybach members for this money and on.
            But in my naivety and yours - such “good advice”, I will assume that there is a “deep” plan to blot the member-goers to the entire local elite.
            1. morved
              morved 21 May 2018 15: 56
              0
              The development of the maybach did not pay off, the development of the six hundredth Mercier W140, considered to be the coolest for the whole time of existence, but the concern consciously went for it, realizing that it was promoting all the other machines of the concern. Car shoppers, not to mention motorsport, are almost 100% unprofitable, but again, automakers go to these "ill-considered expenses" in your opinion. Russia has returned to the club of countries, a very few remark that presidential cars can make. For the Russian auto industry, this is mega advertising.
              Well, the platform will be relevant for at least 10 years, so 12 billion is not divided by 100-500 but 1000-5000 if not more, taking into account the breadth of the model range.
              Economics and accounting are different sciences, and when an accountant also goes into marketing, then this is generally a pipe ;-)
              1. DimerVladimer
                DimerVladimer 22 May 2018 09: 26
                0
                Quote: morved
                Russia has returned to the club of countries, a very few remark that presidential cars can make. For the Russian auto industry, this is mega advertising.


                Well, this is very loudly said, "returned to the club of countries" - given the fact that still domestic cars do not have automatic transmission of domestic design :)))
                In the Cortege project, how much does the “influence” of Porsche Engineering, imported engines and gearbox take - what is domestic there? Iron?
                I don’t remember a single NAMI car put into the series - if it’s really deep: NAMI-1, which had the designation NATI-2.

                But this situation reminds me of the 1920s. When NATI (US) made their own car, and as a result, they still purchased FORD-A technology.
                So with the motorcade - to get a modern car - they turned to the Germans.

                I hope in 12,4 billion rubles, at least some kind of technology transfers are included, although judging by the amount - only the development of the body.
  36. Incvizitor
    Incvizitor 18 May 2018 15: 01
    +1
    I hope the cars will be without reservation, so that 10 + lyam as a "tiger" are not worth laughing
    1. Zaurbek
      Zaurbek 18 May 2018 15: 59
      0
      from 5 million rubles for a short sedan with a 4,4 liter engine.
      1. Incvizitor
        Incvizitor 18 May 2018 17: 16
        +1
        Well, expensive for a sedan ... it's like a BMW x6, a cadillac escalade, a normal gelding (the same GLE) or a normal Kruzak, as for me they will obviously be better ...
        1. Zaurbek
          Zaurbek 18 May 2018 18: 45
          0
          So it has a dimension like the S600L ....
  37. kventinasd
    kventinasd 18 May 2018 16: 25
    +1
    Normal such a cart came out good If the project is not ruined, then there will be good demand.
    1. iouris
      iouris 19 May 2018 20: 40
      0
      How long does it take for a hacker to interfere with driving?
  38. 100502
    100502 18 May 2018 18: 30
    +1
    That's how the thief tears the roof from the authorities, the main thing is the show-off, there is at least one detail made in Russia in this Lego, I think even a screw will not be there.
  39. 100502
    100502 18 May 2018 18: 35
    0
    I don’t know how others would be nice to see the gdp and ko in the funnel
    1. Zaurbek
      Zaurbek 18 May 2018 18: 46
      +1
      Are there any specific violations of the law in the Russian Federation?
      1. 100502
        100502 18 May 2018 18: 59
        +1
        Are you blind?
        1. Zaurbek
          Zaurbek 19 May 2018 15: 26
          0
          I’m not the FSB director to know. And from my shop I do not know his sins.
  40. Peaceful Atom
    Peaceful Atom 18 May 2018 22: 58
    0
    Quote: 100502
    Are you blind?

    Quickly read your comments, I can’t get rid of my obsessive thought: “an evil whiner-anti-Semite with an inferiority complex” .... About myself: not a Jew, not a patriot, Russia, because I’m not a Russian, I respect Putin, but without reverence , Russian (Russians) I think brothers .... IMHO
    1. 100502
      100502 19 May 2018 07: 20
      0
      Fools like you have always been full.
    2. 100502
      100502 19 May 2018 07: 25
      0
      And as for antesemite) I know the story too well to "love" them, read more, look more broadly you will not be cattle.
  41. Passing by
    Passing by 19 May 2018 05: 37
    0
    Quote: bazzbazz
    Exactly, let Putin drive this car, and the rest of the officials should drive without flashing lights and green streets. On cars no more than 2 million rubles, domestic production. But it's a dream, by ear)

    You may be surprised, but there is an order in which the price of a car is limited to 1 million rubles for federal departments, and 1.2 million rubles for northern regions
    1. Alf
      Alf 19 May 2018 18: 24
      0
      Quote: Passing by
      Quote: bazzbazz
      Exactly, let Putin drive this car, and the rest of the officials should drive without flashing lights and green streets. On cars no more than 2 million rubles, domestic production. But it's a dream, by ear)

      You may be surprised, but there is an order in which the price of a car is limited to 1 million rubles for federal departments, and 1.2 million rubles for northern regions

      And what are our cars fit into this price?
  42. DimerVladimer
    DimerVladimer 24 May 2018 10: 31
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    The armored Senate Limo 6620 mm long and weighing 6,5 tons is an all-wheel drive hybrid with a 8 liter V4.4 engine (598 hp), an electric motor and a nine-speed automatic. Aurus does not hide the fact that the proportion of in-house components in its machines is 30%.

    It is difficult to say that the project is domestic, there is nothing special to be proud of.