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Trump - Kim Jong Ynu: You will not negotiate - wait for the fate of Gaddafi

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The American president commented on the information spread by the Central Telegraph Agency of the DPRK about the possible refusal of Kim Jong-un to negotiate in Singapore. Recall that Pyongyang threatened to abandon the top-level talks with the United States in connection with the beginning of large-scale US-South Korean military exercises on the Korean Peninsula.


Trump, commenting on the situation, was extremely categorical, declaring that if Kim Jong-un refused to negotiate, he would eventually face the fate of the Libyan leader Muammar Gaddafi. This statement was made by the American president during negotiations with NATO Secretary General Jens Stoltenberg.

Trump added that if Kim Jong-un is making a deal with the United States, he is expected to receive a “guarantee”:
If we make a deal, I believe that the DPRK leader Kim Jong-un will be very, very happy. He will receive our defense, which will be very strong. He will remain there, he will rule his country, and his country will be very rich.


Trump - Kim Jong Ynu: You will not negotiate - wait for the fate of Gaddafi


Apparently, we are talking about the same "guarantees" that the United States at one time gave Iran. And the US guarantees are, as you know, a difficult thing, first of all, for those who receive these guarantees: today the United States gives them, tomorrow they take them.

Trump:
In 2011, no one gave guarantees for then-Libyan leader Gaddafi. We just went in and destroyed it. This option will take place if Pyongyang does not agree to negotiate.


One caveat did not mention Trump: Gaddafi did not have nuclear weaponsand Kim has it.

Recall that the United States is demanding that Pyongyang export its entire arsenal of nuclear weapons and destroy missiles. Instead, a few cars of rice.
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  1. Separ DNR
    Separ DNR 18 May 2018 06: 27
    +6
    Trump - Kim Jong Ynu: You will not negotiate - wait for the fate of Gaddafi
    Then, in 2011, Russia "gave the go-ahead" to the United States for an operation in Libya, for reasons not understood ...

    Now, what, we are waiting for a repetition of the “rolled-up scenario”, with the tacit consent of the Russian Federation?
    1. andrewkor
      andrewkor 18 May 2018 06: 36
      +27
      Then "gave the go-ahead" i.e. through the UN, consent to a no-fly zone in Libya, President Medvedev. That the Western coalition’s hands were unleashed to promote "democracy." And Trampon, of course, the big underestimation of the situation with Iran clearly highlighted the whole rottenness of American power. Since the Wild West, nothing has changed !!!
      1. hrych
        hrych 18 May 2018 07: 34
        +28
        I must say differently: "You will agree, wait for the fate of Gaddafi!"
        Quote: andrewkor
        Then "gave the go-ahead" i.e. through the UN, consent to a no-fly zone in Libya, President Medvedev.

        Muamor - a traitor, gained good from the USSR and did not return, like Saddam. Moreover, the dough imposed on the Western-enemy financial structures and the economy. When Russia was bent, not a single bastard helped her, the American humanitarian aid was more accurate, it’s true that the people didn’t rebel and that they needed to take control of our resources through Yukos, Sibneft, TNK-BP, etc. Therefore, the one that is not devoted to the other us, and the traitors themselves carried their own. Neither Cuba nor the DPRK did this, therefore, they received a debt restructuring (in exchange for using resources), the regimes have been preserved and have prospects thanks to cooperation with Russia. And we gave Muamor and Saddam to collectors in star-striped pants, for the West Qurna deposit, etc.
        1. I am Russian
          I am Russian 18 May 2018 08: 11
          +8
          I agree, rightly for Gaddafi and Saddamku. Got what they deserve.
          1. Vladimir16
            Vladimir16 18 May 2018 09: 19
            0
            Trump gypsies? winked
            Gypsies behave this way.
            1. Geisenberg
              Geisenberg 18 May 2018 10: 58
              +2
              In response, Kim may well answer the trump "if you tryndet wash away Losangeles."
        2. Stirbjorn
          Stirbjorn 18 May 2018 08: 48
          +6
          Quote: hrych
          Muamor - a traitor, gained good from the USSR and did not return, like Saddam.

          For once I agree with Hrych laughing
          1. just exp
            just exp 18 May 2018 09: 40
            +2
            only Saddam could not, for since the 91st year he has been under sanctions. with money the paragraph was straining.
            but the fly agaric threw us on all counts. we shoved him and S-300 and Su-30 and even forgave debts. and he threw us.
            rightly so.
        3. vadimtt
          vadimtt 18 May 2018 09: 03
          +3
          I’ve never even thought in that way. It will be necessary to think.
        4. BecmepH
          BecmepH 18 May 2018 10: 18
          +2
          Quote: hrych
          Moreover, the dough imposed on the Western-enemy financial structures and the economy.

          And now our government is doing it! What do you call them?
          1. hrych
            hrych 18 May 2018 10: 47
            0
            Quote: BecmepH
            And now our government is doing it! What do you call them?

            For foreign economic activity, it is normal to invest in gold and foreign exchange reserves and securities, Muamor had every right to do this, but he had to, he didn’t repay his debts and was therefore free. On the contrary, he thought that money in the West would save him, and Russia could simply be thrown. But the West decided to take everything, and the Russian Federation did not think to save. Moreover, if everything is clear with Iraq and Qurna. Perhaps the Libyan legacy is also secretly divided, in the form of accounts and assets. These are the secrets of politics. Also, others should be thrilled to throw Russia. For this non-payer it is necessary to break as a warning.
            1. BecmepH
              BecmepH 18 May 2018 13: 27
              +1
              Quote: hrych
              Also, others should be thrilled to throw Russia. For this non-payer it is necessary to break as a warning.

              And we forgive ...
              1. hrych
                hrych 18 May 2018 22: 18
                0
                Quote: BecmepH
                And we forgive ...

                We do not forgive, but restructure. These are different things.
        5. alaarsen
          alaarsen 26 May 2018 16: 51
          0
          But what did Milosevic not give to Russia? Let them first give back those who in Russia itself have plundered and invested in the same Western structures. Is not Russian money in US bonds? So I did not understand who Moammar and Saddam had betrayed there. It was Yeltsin who betrayed all - both in his own country and allies. And what kind of support did Cuba receive?
          1. hrych
            hrych 26 May 2018 23: 39
            0
            Quote: alaarsen
            So I did not understand who Moammar and Saddam had betrayed there. It was Yeltsin who betrayed all - both in his own country and allies. And what kind of support did Cuba receive?

            On Wikipedia, beat Cuba and look at the item on its economy and everything will become clearer. Milosevic - this is the type of Turchinov and Poroshenko, threw troops into fraternal Croatia. When the west reeled the regime in Bosnia, initially the Croats and Serbs fought with the Islamists. But this villain decided to tame the Croats as a result of enmity, the exodus of the Serbs from Serbian Krajina, the weakening of Serbia led to the opportunity to rise to the Kosovo Albanians and the final result that we have now, and the fact that NATO intervened had to be calculated, it was necessary to purchase complexes Air defense and aircraft, but the leaders of Yugoslavia did not spend money on it so that the standard of living of citizens would not fall. As a result, many wealthy citizens were buried. Who was lucky and slavery in a brothel. Primakov turned the board, the paratroopers took an airfield, but ... Bulgaria did not give an air corridor to our paratroopers for reinforcement. And what to do? How to be Therefore, even the vile EBN has nothing to do with it. They could not really figure out in Chechnya, the former Soviet army was nikakuschey. Verney, General Dudayev, Colonel Maskhadov, is precisely the officers of the top of the same Soviet army. Therefore, the sins of the Yugoslav parasites, there is no need to hang on Russia, there is no need to hang on the betrayal of the socialist countries that did not allow saving Serbia, because it was cut off and the attempt was made. American bonds for your information bring income, as well as foreign holders of securities receive dividends from our companies. This is normal, these are the laws of the world economy. The stolen money of the Yeltsin thieves, actually seized by the governments of the West, are now looking for the latest tac toe in computers and zeroing out. Factories, factories, wells, at least large ones, have been returned to the state, nationalization has been carried out - this is a different story, read how Yukos, TNK-BP, Sibneft were liquidated, how the Sakhalin 1 and Sakhalin 2 fields were returned and enlightenment will visit you. Berezovsky was the richest Russian, had television channels, the third oil company in the country (Sibneft), etc. He turned out to be abroad, he did not carry out factories, wells and channels, only zeros in his bank account. Without true values, his accounts were canceled, he became bankrupt, and even hanged. Also, the accounts of Gaddafi, Saddam, etc. were canceled. Saddam betrayed the USSR even before his collapse, he began to cooperate with the United States, France, etc. When he was persuaded to fight with Iran. I got the equipment of the USSR and did not pay. Then he was hanged. Gaddafi, about the same, only on a smaller scale, sponsored the Sarkazi electoral commission, built factories in Italy, and did not intend to return the debts of the USSR. Who betrayed him? Russia? Was he ours? Yes there was, only a debtor. So I got a fierce death. He would return the money, build factories with us, provide a military base, then they would not give offense, like Assad. Although Assad flirted with the West, he fell in time to the White King’s knees. Not only did he survive, but the kingdom was preserved. Something like this.
      2. Kent0001
        Kent0001 18 May 2018 10: 17
        +2
        And it will not change. They have already bent China, now they are putting pressure on the EU against SP-2. I hope that the EU-read Germany understands that Trampon is for another 2 years, and ours is for decades. I would not be surprised if even Merkel turned on the rear for SP-2 for the abolition of the trade war with the United States, and this was calculated. Trump is turning the world around as he wants through the economy, for this reason our opinion has little effect, or rather almost nothing.
        1. hrych
          hrych 18 May 2018 10: 53
          +1
          Quote: Kent0001
          Trump is turning the world around as he wants through the economy, for this reason our opinion has little effect, or rather almost nothing.

          All this resembles the convulsions of the western system. And the Russian Federation is the stumbling block, or rather, energy resources for the economy, which make the product competitive. Also, the military power of Russia makes Trump shake Europe. They invested in the Ukrainian project, and everyone lost, they could not cover with the seizure of resources, and they even hung parasites on the neck. Otherwise, the Bandera diaspora regime will instantly fall. Therefore, Russia decides everything laughing
    2. Uncle lee
      Uncle lee 18 May 2018 06: 41
      +3
      Quote: Separ DNR
      You will not agree - wait for the fate of Gaddafi

      Gaddafi did not have nuclear weapons, but Kim has
      1. Separ DNR
        Separ DNR 18 May 2018 06: 47
        +1
        Quote: Uncle Lee
        Gaddafi did not have nuclear weapons, but Kim has


        А What business, The United States to the "local nuclear Apocalypse" somewhere in the distance?

        Perhaps Americans have degree information NOT DPRK's nuclear readiness for its ability to strike the United States ...
        1. Thrall
          Thrall 18 May 2018 06: 56
          +1
          There are American troops from South Korea and Japan, and that’s enough.
        2. Petr1
          Petr1 18 May 2018 07: 04
          0
          It’s just that they have more opportunities, the country of Korea is small and if you hit first, remember the Koreans, but Kim smart and Russia with China are friends, they will soon remove sanctions from Korea, if not through the United Nations then both USA and Europe, so that’s finished play with the atom and now Koreans just want to eat, because everyone needs the benefit!
    3. forester
      forester 18 May 2018 07: 23
      +2
      Quote: Separ DNR
      Trump - Kim Jong Ynu: You will not negotiate - wait for the fate of Gaddafi
      Then, in 2011, Russia "gave the go-ahead" to the United States for an operation in Libya, for reasons not understood ...

      Now, what, we are waiting for a repetition of the “rolled-up scenario”, with the tacit consent of the Russian Federation?

      No, you are dragging Russia in vain - Kim has a different roof - Comrade Si
      1. Separ DNR
        Separ DNR 18 May 2018 07: 27
        0
        Quote: forester
        No, you’re coming to Russia in vain - Kim has a different roof - comrade Si

        That is, Russia, and specifically you, doesn’t “wave” what will happen and where will the cloud of nuclear explosions carry?

        My hut on the edge ?
        1. forester
          forester 18 May 2018 08: 42
          +1
          And where does the nuclear cloud? - you have a funny train of thought - carefully re-read your comment and my answer
    4. Hagalaz
      Hagalaz 18 May 2018 07: 43
      +3
      Quote: Separ DNR
      Trump - Kim Jong Ynu: You will not negotiate - wait for the fate of Gaddafi
      Then, in 2011, Russia "gave the go-ahead" to the United States for an operation in Libya, for reasons not understood ...

      Now, what, we are waiting for a repetition of the “rolled-up scenario”, with the tacit consent of the Russian Federation?

      Kim is also adjacent to China. Unlike Libya, Korea does not care for China. So the situation is somewhat different.
    5. Vladimir K.
      Vladimir K. 18 May 2018 09: 52
      +3
      If everything depended on Russia, North Korea would have been completely ironed by the Americans. Here, we must pay tribute, the North Koreans can stand up for themselves and, most importantly, they are not afraid to lose - they will fight to the death, and with such Americans the gut is thin. That in Iraq, that in Libya, the Americans before the invasion (by the way they were not officially in Libya, the more valuable the recognition of participation from the trump itself) bought up some of the elites of these countries and did not receive full resistance to their aggression.
  2. Ross xnumx
    Ross xnumx 18 May 2018 06: 28
    +3
    I don’t think that Kim Jong-un has less brains than Trump. He sees very well how, in his selfish interests, Tram puts pressure on Merkel, the EU, and Iran. How does he use any state to achieve the success of American corporations. Unfortunately, Trump, the device of the world is more complicated than the primitive commercial combinations of the remnants of his brain. Parasites cannot live at the expense of others with impunity. And all the successes of the American economy, the volumes of which, according to all sorts of gregs, reach $ 40, are based on the continuous operation of the printing press ...
    1. The black
      The black 18 May 2018 06: 35
      +8
      In my humble opinion, with this statement, Trump is pushing Eun to continue the implementation of the nuclear program in order to completely destroy the sprouts of the dialogue that is planned between the DPRK and the South Caucasus
      1. Elk
        Elk 18 May 2018 06: 40
        +5
        The statement is of course straightforward, but wouldn’t Kim have repeated the fate of Gaddafi if the United States could? Hands are short. For now.
        1. Petr1
          Petr1 18 May 2018 07: 06
          +2
          The United States can, just the game is not worth the candle, expensive however!
          1. Vladimir K.
            Vladimir K. 18 May 2018 10: 00
            +1
            This is the question: can it? Over in Vietnam, how it turned out - America with all its might fell upon an underdeveloped state that only yesterday threw off the shackles of colonialism and what happened? They shamefully retreated to their own homes, proving with their inhuman way of warfare that they were rare scum (one incident in Songmi is worth it). And here is a country with a much more developed economy, strong, trained and (most importantly, as it was in Vietnam) an extremely motivated army, and even having nuclear weapons and their means of delivery, at least to neighboring states that are vassal to the states , where it is full of American bases and other American interests.
    2. demo
      demo 18 May 2018 08: 48
      +2
      I don’t think that Kim Jong-un has less brains than Trump.
      The mass of the brain is almost the same for everyone.
      Only not everyone can use the brain for its intended purpose.
      And strangely enough, people with sophisticated brain control are more aggressive, more dangerous to those around them than they are weak-thinking.
  3. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 18 May 2018 06: 30
    +13
    if Kim Jong-un refuses to negotiate, then ultimately the fate of Libyan leader Muammar Gaddafi awaits him
    But Trump, having just begun his presidency, has already completely gone mad and has gone all the way pumping the rights of everyone and everything. Insolently, cynically, with a sense of superiority over all this ... openly threatens reprisal if his conditions are not met. On the other hand, the first person of a terrorist country (United States) probably should be like that.
    1. ANCIENT
      ANCIENT 18 May 2018 06: 34
      +11
      Gennady hi -it's just a product of his system. America's misfortune is that Vietnam was a long time ago, and they have already forgotten that military shame of America! !!It's a pity! !!
      1. Ross xnumx
        Ross xnumx 18 May 2018 06: 49
        +11
        Quote: ANCIENT
        America's misfortune is that Vietnam was a long time ago, and they have already forgotten that military shame of America! !!It's a pity! !!

        It is fortunate for America that the slobbery of the Russian authorities is not able to show them the “Syrian Vietnam”, where they turned out to be uninvited guests on the territory of Asad legally controlled. Have you ever wondered why Trump deployed all the AUGs and didn’t even deliver an artillery strike on the territory of the DPRK, although in all the media tryndels about the power of the United States and the worthlessness and insignificance of Un? Americans cowards a priori. With guns against the Indians armed with bows, missiles against the Yugoslavs, Iraqis, Libyans, Syrians armed with machine guns ... Their gut is weak. Strike Russia at bases in Syria and ... wash your face with bloody snot and go home to change your underpants. Thieves' ideology does not recommend going into a guarded apartment, or if there is an angry dog, or several angry men with crowbars and shovels ... Everything is so simple and transparent that it’s not clear to a fool why Eun, being under sanctions, does not send their children live in the United States and do not invest in American bonds .... Although it is understandable why Vietnam, Cuba, the DPRK do not experience unrequited love for capitalist Russia ... request
        1. Petr1
          Petr1 18 May 2018 07: 11
          +3
          I am a citizen of Russia and I also do not like our government, however like me laughing
          1. mejik
            mejik 18 May 2018 08: 16
            0
            Loving the government is for a man ... uh ... somehow not typical. Your recognition is such recognition.
            1. Petr1
              Petr1 18 May 2018 11: 01
              0
              There was a time when the country was led by the government !!!! they still can’t carry them away from the square, they thought about people, but right now, they only think about how to reduce the population of their loved ones
              1. mejik
                mejik 27 June 2018 08: 25
                0
                you talk like a government ... USA.
      2. johnik
        johnik 18 May 2018 07: 57
        +1
        They already have successes in darkness - Libya, Iraq, Yugoslavia, the Warsaw Pact, the USSR - and due to their remoteness with a minimum of losses !!!
  4. ANCIENT
    ANCIENT 18 May 2018 06: 37
    +8
    That Trump told the truth, and the United States guarantees that they never guarantee anything to anyone but death, blood and poverty in "disagreeable" countries.
  5. Alex-a832
    Alex-a832 18 May 2018 06: 37
    +13
    It was a real threat to Trump's Eunu assassination. Trump is a felon, judging by our laws. But, apparently, according to the laws of the United States, he ... is another "dove of peace", claiming the appropriate prize, like his predecessors - the same criminals!
    1. Valid benchmark
      Valid benchmark 18 May 2018 09: 45
      0
      That's what I love the current American prezik for, because it’s for frankness. No la la to you about international law, the desire of the people of Libya and Iraq for freedom and democracy ... Everything is very specific. “We just went in and destroyed it.” And there’s nothing to add.
  6. inkass_98
    inkass_98 18 May 2018 06: 39
    0
    As long as OMK and a sufficiently prepared army remain in the DPRK, the fate of Gaddafi does not threaten Kim. But yielding to the entreaties of the staff and acting on their guarantees, it is quite possible to follow the path of the colonel. Banana Trump, not consent to his fake guarantees.
  7. Merold
    Merold 18 May 2018 06: 42
    +5
    announcing that if Kim Jong-un refuses to negotiate, then ultimately the fate of Libyan leader Muammar Gaddafi awaits him. This statement was made by the American president during negotiations with NATO Secretary General Jens Stoltenberg.

    Trump did not make such a statement, but this does not bother local commentators at all.
    1. ANCIENT
      ANCIENT 18 May 2018 06: 52
      +3
      Trump generally promised Eun personally a bag of sugar every day at his own expense, and give the people of North Korea all the defense budgets of the United States for the next 3000 years! wassat Well, you and the joker! wassat
      1. Merold
        Merold 18 May 2018 07: 08
        +2
        Quote: ANCIENT
        Trump generally promised Eun personally a bag of sugar every day at his own expense, and give the people of North Korea all the defense budgets of the United States for the next 3000 years! wassat Well, you and the joker! wassat

        I'm still a joker. True, unlike you and others like you, I know what I'm writing about.
        Just next time when you are going to write how “there” everyone is zombified, how they believe everything that they won’t be told in the media, how to remove noodles from their ears daily - re-read this our dialogue. repeat
        1. ANCIENT
          ANCIENT 18 May 2018 07: 16
          0
          Do not believe me, I will re-read, it is not difficult for me! But I never believed trump, and my comments on the site confirm this, so with what fright should I change my mind about it? ?? belay So we will remain each with our own interests! !!
    2. Korax71
      Korax71 18 May 2018 07: 32
      +1
      So I’m talking about identity too. I’ve rummaged it all over nowhere even close. Well, along the way, our incorruptible media were given an installation! To whip up anti-American hysteria for cookies. It’s the most offensive-people.
      1. vovanpain
        vovanpain 18 May 2018 07: 48
        +4
        Quote: Korax71
        for cookies to escalate anti-American hysteria. The most offensive-people grab

        So that I can’t eat directly. laughing At the UN General Assembly, Trump Pam Pam probably joked about the destruction of an entire country. And for what we love the Americans then, in the 90s we fell in love. laughing
        1. Korax71
          Korax71 18 May 2018 09: 17
          0
          So who said something about love ??? you can relate to them at your own discretion, the question is not open pi .... Well, the difficulties of translation and other chips of our media are already specifically zadolbali. I need an image of a fierce enemy, with which they successfully cope. and the mattresses probably came to you in the 90s and the salary was taken away and even shit in the entrance? they probably decided to extend our retirement age, and they came up with Plato, and they refused to take logging from the forest, and drive the Chinese to drill timber. They raise prices in stores and include the transport tax in gasoline what regarding the extreme search, we have no analogues in the world wink and now a counter question. what is it for us to love ???
  8. Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 18 May 2018 06: 50
    +5
    And what, the nuclear power in has the right to threaten the destruction of another country 5 thousand kilometers from its borders? Eun will be the last idiot if he leads to this blackmail ... So, the United States will begin to "bend" China! Trump does not understand that the DPRK is a creature of China. And a miraculous technological breakthrough in rocket technology, and a thermonuclear charge, really capable of greatly destroying the conglomeration of Tokyo and Yokohama (a third of the population of Japan!) And if anything, and San Francisco, it did not miraculously appear “out of nowhere”. Well, I do not believe in miracles!
  9. Elk
    Elk 18 May 2018 06: 51
    +1
    Quote: Separ DNR

    Then "gave the go-ahead" i.e. through the UN, consent to a no-fly zone in Libya, President Medvedev.

    since when did Medvedev become so independent? Do not be naive. As always, we were exchanging for you - you tell us, they just changed, it looks like glass beads
  10. zulusuluz
    zulusuluz 18 May 2018 06: 59
    0
    Nobody just showed Trump the direction ... It seems to me that Eun will send him in the right direction.
  11. Nix1986
    Nix1986 18 May 2018 07: 01
    0
    US only give guarantees laughing. This is even worse than jokes, black humor. Now only possession of nuclear weapons guarantees sovereignty.
  12. Yak28
    Yak28 18 May 2018 07: 02
    0
    Eun does not expect anything good, if the US goes to conflict, they will probably be bombed, I think that the US inflicting massive missile attacks on nuclear facilities, and military infrastructure, can lead to serious damage to the outdated Eun war machine. And if Eun goes to negotiate and rapprochement with the South Caucasus, the West will eventually collapse the communist system, following the example of the USSR, the army, the ruling elite and everything else will come kapets.
  13. Signore Tomato
    Signore Tomato 18 May 2018 07: 03
    0
    Along the way, the option of reconciling the two Koreas is extremely unprofitable for pentos, only this can explain such clownish statements.
    Pentos at the end of the wake ... shook the shores.
  14. sustav75
    sustav75 18 May 2018 07: 03
    +1
    Quote: andrewkor
    Then "gave the go-ahead" i.e. through the UN, consent to a no-fly zone in Libya, President Medvedev. That the Western coalition’s hands were unleashed to promote "democracy." And Trampon, of course, the big underestimation of the situation with Iran clearly highlighted the whole rottenness of American power. Since the Wild West, nothing has changed !!!

    What the figs of bears !? Aren't you funny? Putin, Putin and only Putin with moneybags decide in today's Russia decide! Enough already on poor Medvedev to hang all the dogs! Trump is beautiful! This is the only way to talk in our time! And do not chew snot ...
  15. sustav75
    sustav75 18 May 2018 07: 12
    0
    Quote: ANCIENT
    That Trump told the truth, and the United States guarantees that they never guarantee anything to anyone but death, blood and poverty in "disagreeable" countries.

    Remained - Iran, North Korea, Russia! I think Trump will be in time with everyone! It will be easiest with Russia, as long as Medvedev, Sechin, Millers are in power ... Let them raise their retirement age, maybe people will demolish them even earlier ...
    1. vovanpain
      vovanpain 18 May 2018 07: 56
      +6
      Quote: sustav75
      Remained - Iran, North Korea, Russia! I think Trump will be in time with everyone!

      If you don’t overtake the slogan, you lick the trump well, he will appreciate it.
  16. bald
    bald 18 May 2018 07: 17
    +1
    --- "If we make a deal ..." - This is not the president, but a solid sale transaction - all its essence, as well as the states.
  17. Sarcasm
    Sarcasm 18 May 2018 07: 33
    +1
    We cut off the leg or chop off the hand without a choice)
  18. Dormidont
    Dormidont 18 May 2018 07: 35
    +3
    Trump - Kim Jong Ynu: You will not negotiate - wait for the fate of Gaddafi
    And will you agree - wait for the fate of Hussein
  19. APASUS
    APASUS 18 May 2018 07: 39
    0
    From his pomp, Trump did not understand what Eun said and begins to fall asleep himself, squeezing a clown out of himself in the foreign policy arena! Eun proposed the denuclearization of the Korean Peninsula, which means complete cleansing of nuclear weapons, including the American one from South Korea. Trump did not understand what Now Eun can demand from him !!!
  20. Crane operator Nahamkinson
    Crane operator Nahamkinson 18 May 2018 07: 39
    0
    Come on rafter, spoil the air further.
  21. rpuropuu
    rpuropuu 18 May 2018 07: 47
    +5
    Quote: hrych
    I must say differently: "You will agree, wait for the fate of Gaddafi!"
    Quote: andrewkor
    Then "gave the go-ahead" i.e. through the UN, consent to a no-fly zone in Libya, President Medvedev.

    Muamor - a traitor, gained good from the USSR and did not return, like Saddam. Moreover, the dough imposed on the Western-enemy financial structures and the economy. When Russia was bent, not a single bastard helped her, the American humanitarian aid was more accurate, it’s true that the people didn’t rebel and that they needed to take control of our resources through Yukos, Sibneft, TNK-BP, etc. Therefore, the one that is not devoted to the other us, and the traitors themselves carried their own. Neither Cuba nor the DPRK did this, therefore, they received a debt restructuring (in exchange for using resources), the regimes have been preserved and have prospects thanks to cooperation with Russia. And we gave Muamor and Saddam to collectors in star-striped pants, for the West Qurna deposit, etc.

    Russia was bent by its stupidity, do not drag others stop Strange to call help - Destruction of agricultural. sectors of the Russian Federation with the help of "bush legs" recourse Do we not invest in enemy structures? No. The Soviet Union, as far as I know, didn’t ask for its good request Wouldn't the intention to introduce the Golden Dinar of Gaddafi be in our interests now? what Look at prices and the dollar, how much Russia depends on how much paper is printed overseas stop They were bad or good, but with them their countries lived with dignity and there were no ISIS there hi
  22. rpuropuu
    rpuropuu 18 May 2018 07: 50
    +2
    If only somehow covered with "democracy" belay
    We just went in and destroyed it.

    So you can convince completely stupid people that all this freedom and the rights of people are just a cover for achieving their interests what
    By the way
    Trump added that if Kim Jong-un is making a deal with the United States, he is expected to receive a “guarantee”:
    , I remember the same EU countries gave guarantees to Yanukovych, we all know the result yes
  23. gorenina91
    gorenina91 18 May 2018 07: 51
    0
    -Russians just need not to clap their ears, but to take advantage of the situation and, as much as possible, to weaken the "noose" ... that China has thrown at Russia .. so as to get rid of it as quickly as possible ... -For now, Russia simply it’s fortunate that such a president in the USA ... like Trump ... -This time ... this "respite" should be used as rationally and as profitably as possible to restore its industry and weaken the influence of China ... -China ...- it’s a colossus on ... on Chinese chopsticks ... - a small political and economic shock and all its "bloated power" will simply burst like a soap bubble ...
    -And nobody will save North Korea ... -You are guilty of yourself .. that you did "back up" (you can see that things are bad there) ... -Now, even China doesn’t need it ... -And he will soon slide down to the level of Pol Pot and Ieng Sari, who were once in Kampuchea (they were overthrown by the Vietnamese) ... -And who will overthrow the ONE ... -Chinese ..?
    -That is Russia’s carte blanche ... -China will soon lose its “weak stronghold” in the person of North Korea and it will have no more “comrades-in-arms” .. unless Russia again gets in with its stupid, tearful “woman” help, "love to the grave" .., support, the supply of hydrocarbons, the latest military equipment, etc. ...
    - Many Russia’s enslaving treaties with China need to be broken and revised altogether ... and put an end to "fraternal relations" forever ... -And there shouldn’t be any talk about any Silk Road ... -forget it forever times ... but without the consent and help of Russia, this whole "project" crumbles like a house of cards ...
    -Only if our leadership has enough political will ... is a big question ...
    1. Moskovit
      Moskovit 18 May 2018 08: 09
      +2
      Do not you write from Washington? Have you been to China to claim that he has a soap bubble? It is a powerful country with the second economy in the world. Half of Europe and the USA are bought by the Chinese.
      In one you are right. We must build our own economy. And you can learn this from the Chinese - if you want to go to the Chinese market, do co-production here.
      1. gorenina91
        gorenina91 18 May 2018 08: 52
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        -Yes, "bought up" ... -That's time and it's time to get rid of all this ...
        -USA, no friends to us .., but at this very short moment our interests coincide with them ... -and the USA have long wanted to put China "in its place" ...
        - And despite the fact that the USA for Russia ... is a life-long foe ... it is becoming increasingly clear that the USA will never attack Russia ... -so they will be vicious, harm and “impose sanctions”. .. -And China is for Russia ... -this is a mortal enemy ... -And Russia needs a completely different policy towards China ... Russia just needs to do everything .., by any means to get out of the influence of China ...
        -And if Russia does not start its “major political game” for its own independence and for its lost influence .., then it can simply lose its sovereignty .. -To avoid this, you will have to make even some “temporary compromises” with the USA (yes with anyone) ... for Russia it is "non-fatal" ...
        -But to continue to fulfill the will of China, play "his game", push his interests, contrary to his own interests (even when a threat to his own existence arose) ... -This is absolutely criminal ...
        - In general ... - it simply causes a feeling of woeful bewilderment when in Russia they rejoice at the “strengthening of the yuan .., the creation of the Silk Road”, the supply of hydrocarbons through pipelines to China ... -This is what happens ..? -Russians are going to take together Chinese citizenship, lose their sovereignty .., become Chinese ..?
        -And China, meanwhile, is only "rubbing its hands" and "carnivorous in anticipation" ...
        1. anjey
          anjey 18 May 2018 09: 21
          +4
          You began to realize the dream of the United States, to pit Russia and China.
          The Yankees will be very happy about this, so any provocative and temporary friendship from the United States, against China, Russia is definitely contraindicated ....
        2. The Siberian barber
          The Siberian barber 18 May 2018 09: 37
          +1
          Do you suggest merging in "love ecstasy" with the USA ???
          Then, welcome to genocide!
          1. gorenina91
            gorenina91 18 May 2018 10: 02
            0
            -I’m just “suggesting” ... stop merging in “love ecstasy” with China ... -otherwise, Russia will lose everything ... -and "its breed" and its sovereignty and its historical beginning ... -many peoples the Chinese have nothing left of their story ... -Where are they now ..? -This is now the Chinese ... -and they can’t be distinguished either externally either by linguistic or cultural "signs" ......- these are Chinese ...
            -And Russia already had "alliances" with the USA ... -something in the WWI and the WWII ... -and today, too, the same temporary need arose ... - "not from a good life" ...
            - And the USA has the same thing ... - if the Russians lose their sovereignty .. and turn into an absolute appendage of China (which some CIS states are already becoming) ... then the USA will not be too good ... - neither Japan, nor Western Europe, too, they "will not save" ... such today are "pressing matters" ...
        3. Valid benchmark
          Valid benchmark 18 May 2018 09: 58
          +1
          Quote: gorenina91
          But China for Russia ... is a deadly enemy

          And do not remind me how many wars unleashed aggressive China over the past well, at least 200-300 years? How many countries did you destroy, how many treaties did you unilaterally withdraw from?
          1. gorenina91
            gorenina91 18 May 2018 12: 20
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            -I don’t understand ... -What kind of "truth" do you achieve ..? - Everything is so obvious ...
            -If you are Chinese ... -so why convince you of something at all ...
            -China enslaved and assimilated dozens of peoples who lived for centuries on the territory of modern China ... -all became Chinese ... -because there are so many ... -Well, "100 million more will be added to the number of Chinese" Russian + another 30-40 million other nations that live in Russia and + another 40 million peoples of the CIS ... -that's all ...
            -As for the "external wars" ... then here today China began to show "appetite." .. -the same Damansky .. and the invasion of Vietnam ... and the islands that China by hook or by crook it pours and “wring” as its territory ... -And China “fights in every way” ... -simply populates foreign states with ethnic Chinese and ... and begins to dictate its interests ... -Australia, New Zealand .., already Africa .., but the same USA ... -wherever the Chinese are simply teeming with ...
            -And why the hell is China such a gigantic ground army and all this frantic arms race ..? - Probably ...- for the parades ... we will continue to hope for this ...
        4. Moskovit
          Moskovit 18 May 2018 19: 53
          0
          Can you give specific examples of the absorption of neighboring states by China? Maybe China bombed someone thousands of miles from his country? Overthrew the modes? Destroying whole countries? Yes, the Chinese are very persistent, but they are also very pragmatic. They do not need thousands of kilometers of cold and lifeless territories. They have enough of such good.
  24. anjey
    anjey 18 May 2018 07: 53
    +1
    the old American political lever of carrots and sticks, the meaning is clear that Trump and Un will not agree on equal terms, only for the betrayal of his people and ideology ...
  25. Sevastiec
    Sevastiec 18 May 2018 08: 10
    0
    Trump added that if Kim Jong-un goes to a deal with the United States, he is expected to “guarantee”


    US warranties are not worth the paper on which they are written.
  26. Rostislav
    Rostislav 18 May 2018 08: 24
    0
    Everyone so amicably rushed to guess if the evil penguin would attack or not attack. And everyone forgot China’s statement: “If the DPRK attacks, we won’t support it. If the DPRK is attacked, we defend it,” which made a strong impression also because China is extremely rarely expressed so clearly and categorically.
  27. izja
    izja 18 May 2018 08: 55
    +2
    Quote: Separ DNR
    Trump - Kim Jong Ynu: You will not negotiate - wait for the fate of Gaddafi
    Then, in 2011, Russia "gave the go-ahead" to the United States for an operation in Libya, for reasons not understood ...

    Now, what, we are waiting for a repetition of the “rolled-up scenario”, with the tacit consent of the Russian Federation?


    Do not tell people, since when did the States need the approval of Russia? The states do not need the approval of any country at the moment, look around what's going on, where they want to go there - they go there while the whole world dances to the tune of the United States, including Russia (as long as there is a dependence on the dollar, on the financial system, nothing will change )
    1. msm
      msm 18 May 2018 15: 49
      0
      Izzy, do not be so faithful, but you are right, as always
  28. The Siberian barber
    The Siberian barber 18 May 2018 09: 10
    +2
    Belief in the “guarantee” given by the USA is tantamount to a firm belief in victory when playing Russian Roulette laughing
    1. Valid benchmark
      Valid benchmark 18 May 2018 09: 59
      +1
      Yeah with a PM gun
  29. Romanenko
    Romanenko 18 May 2018 09: 17
    +2
    Well done Trump, his tongue rumbles, and from time to time he himself merges information - this talker still blabbed out: "If you don’t agree, wait for the fate of Gaddafi" ....
    He directly confirmed that the United States is the main organizer of the coups, the state is the center of international terrorism.
    Now we will wait, when the information on Syria, Ukraine and other countries, where else we are bored, merges.
  30. jncnfdybr
    jncnfdybr 18 May 2018 09: 46
    0
    Trump can chat as much as he wants. But for an adult to jump on the DPRK, the gut is thin, knowing about nuclear weapons.)
  31. CAT BAIYUN
    CAT BAIYUN 18 May 2018 10: 03
    +3
    In 2011, no one gave guarantees for then-Libyan leader Gaddafi. We just went in and destroyed it. This option will take place if Pyongyang does not agree to negotiate.

    Well, what does this frostbitten star-striped cock count on after such words? The fact that everyone is scared? Found someone to scare.
    But, as from my point of view, negotiations after such expressions can not be expected.
    This is the height of swine, bad manners, etc.
  32. kaschey
    kaschey 18 May 2018 10: 05
    0
    "If Kim Jong-un goes to a deal with the United States, he will have a" guarantee ""
    Do not tell my slippers.
  33. Old26
    Old26 18 May 2018 10: 43
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    Quote: Petr1
    It’s just that they have more opportunities, the country of Korea is small and if you hit first, remember the Koreans, but Kim smart and Russia with China are friends, they will soon remove sanctions from Korea, if not through the United Nations then both USA and Europe, so that’s finished play with the atom and now Koreans just want to eat, because everyone needs the benefit!

    Sanctions against the DPRK were imposed mainly by either the United States or the United Nations. Both Russia and the PRC did not introduce “personal sanctions” against the DPRK. They only supported UN sanctions. And UN sanctions can only be lifted by the UN. Otherwise, any country that decides not to comply with UN sanctions accordingly becomes a violator of the sanctions regime. And accordingly there will be some consequences

    Quote: Black
    In my humble opinion, with this statement, Trump is pushing Eun to continue the implementation of the nuclear program in order to completely destroy the sprouts of the dialogue that is planned between the DPRK and the South Caucasus

    It’s hard to “figure out” Trump. He is unpredictable. And as I have written many times, it resembles an elephant in a china shop. If such a threat took place, it is an attempt to "intimidate" your opponent before the start of a "battle" (ie, negotiations). What if Eun goes on the spot?

    Quote: Petr1
    The United States can, just the game is not worth the candle, expensive however!

    In the late 90's, they figured out what such an adventure would cost. Of course, I don’t remember the exact numbers, but somewhere in the range of several tens of billions of dollars. Now the situation has changed and not in favor of the United States. The DPRK has, but no nuclear weapons, and may attempt to launch a nuclear strike on US territory or its bases. The first is unlikely, but the second is quite. In this case, this adventure will probably already be worth more, perhaps a hundred billion. Plus losses, both human and reputational. Technically, this is not a problem for the United States.

    Quote: inkass_98
    As long as OMK and a sufficiently prepared army remain in the DPRK, the fate of Gaddafi does not threaten Kim. But yielding to the entreaties of the staff and acting on their guarantees, it is quite possible to follow the path of the colonel. Banana Trump, not consent to his fake guarantees.

    Even the WMD that Kim has does not guarantee him security if a political decision is made to destroy the DPRK. I mean the technical side of the problem. But Trump cannot consider the political side a priori. He is his own head, and even the opinions of advisers are unlikely to interfere with him. Advisor advises "not that" - but what problems - dismiss the adviser and all the short

    Quote: Mountain Shooter
    And what, the nuclear power in has the right to threaten the destruction of another country 5 thousand kilometers from its borders? Eun will be the last idiot if he leads to this blackmail ... So, the United States will begin to "bend" China! Trump does not understand that the DPRK is a creature of China. And a miraculous technological breakthrough in rocket technology, and a thermonuclear charge, really capable of greatly destroying the conglomeration of Tokyo and Yokohama (a third of the population of Japan!) And if anything, and San Francisco, it did not miraculously appear “out of nowhere”. Well, I do not believe in miracles!

    Kamrad! It was the threat of the destruction of another country that became the guarantee that this destruction did not happen. We had a threat of destruction of the United States and they are well aware of this. What to do, politics in general is a very dirty business and to do it with white gloves does not work. This is all rhetoric. Look at what Kim said two or three years ago. "North Korea will burn the United States in a nuclear fire." Roughly such statements came from Kim’s lips.

    Coglomerations of Seoul, Tokyo, Yokohama Kim really can destroy. But with the same San Francisco, Kim may have a bummer.
    One, he doesn't have many intercontinental missiles.
    Secondly - these missiles have never been tested by firing at the maximum range, which means theoretical calculations have not been confirmed by practice
    B-3, the Americans have some kind of no-one but missile defense. She will never delay a Russian missile strike, but the North Korean one is quite

    Quote: Yak28
    Eun does not expect anything good, if the US goes to conflict, they will probably be bombed, I think that the US inflicting massive missile attacks on nuclear facilities, and military infrastructure, can lead to serious damage to the outdated Eun war machine. And if Eun goes to negotiate and rapprochement with the South Caucasus, the West will eventually collapse the communist system, following the example of the USSR, the army, the ruling elite and everything else will come kapets.

    In fact, Kim has a stalemate. Do not go to negotiations and develop your nuclear missile weapons - this boiler will ever explode anyway and it will lose power (and life).
    He may come to rapprochement with South Korea for some time and will remain at the helm, but as soon as it comes to unification into one state (not a confederation, but really united) - I think he will also lose power, because the southerners obviously have such a system will not like

    Quote: Rostislav
    Everyone so amicably rushed to guess if the evil penguin would attack or not attack. And everyone forgot China’s statement: “If the DPRK attacks, we won’t support it. If the DPRK is attacked, we defend it,” which made a strong impression also because China is extremely rarely expressed so clearly and categorically.

    This statement is simply forgotten by many. Right now, negotiations should not be long-term and without sharp movements, such as “I won’t go to negotiations, because the Americans and South Koreans are conducting exercises.” They spend them from year to year, having previously planned the place and time for the year ahead.
    And having gone to a break in the negotiations, he may find himself in a situation where he will provoke a first strike. And then he will not see the support of China. And the Americans know this very well
  34. Bastion Eagle
    Bastion Eagle 18 May 2018 11: 17
    0
    Do not shoot the hut ... Eun plays in a team with the great Si and Pu ... They will divorce the emotional Trampushka, as Poroshenko and Minsk once ... and will entertain him for his whole term ...
  35. Sergiys_Praim
    Sergiys_Praim 18 May 2018 11: 32
    +1
    The threat of reality of a military invasion against nuclear-weapon-free states is real. And the motivation used to dissuade them from the desire to possess nuclear weapons does not work. Since American policy is based only on military force and the threat of military force, all other options are only transitional ... No guarantees and even international treaties have any force, this is the reality.

    And the lesson is elementary. In 2003, Tripoli agreed to curtail its nascent nuclear program, abandon its stockpiles of chemical and bacteriological weapons and stop supporting terrorism. In exchange, guarantees were given and it was reintegrated into global economic policy. Nevertheless, he was still attacked.

    The Treaty on the Non-Proliferation of Nuclear Weapons (NPT) - in 1970. He encouraged the nuclear strangers to ensure the security of non-nuclear-weapon countries through experience and infrastructure for the use of peaceful nuclear technology. The ultimate goal was complete disarmament for all. But countries possessing nuclear weapons have never been disarmed, and security threats for non-nuclear countries have only increased.
    For various reasons, they attacked the former Yugoslavia, Iraq and Libya. This aggression partially, if not completely, materialized due to the lack of nuclear weapons as a means of deterrence. At the same time, troubling nuclear-weapon countries, such as North Korea or Pakistan, have not been attacked since they launched the bomb.

    The most important and outstanding source of security in international affairs was the atomic bomb. Selected countries, which openly talked about the fact that they have the means of delivery of these weapons, have successfully restrained the physical aggression of other states against themselves.

    Kim Jong-un will not go to unilateral disarmament, he’s not id ... from. And Trump expects concrete steps, primarily the rejection of regular, large-scale US-South Korean military exercises on the Korean Peninsula.
    Trump may not bother ... Kim Jong-un and a small button can cause unacceptable damage, at least Highly likely. He remembers perfectly about the tragic fate of Gaddafi and Libya ...
  36. HMR333
    HMR333 18 May 2018 12: 01
    0
    Such a guarantee is not worth a broken bag !!!
  37. Tsoy
    Tsoy 18 May 2018 12: 17
    0
    Oh, how it all depends on the context ....

    Other sites write about this news in a slightly different way. And to be precise, they write something completely different. And since the author has not subscribed, it is worthwhile to assume that everything written above is a stupid stuffing and lies.


    "In Libya, we destroyed the country ... There was no agreement to leave Gaddafi. The Libyan model was completely different than what will be with Kim Jong-un. He will be there, will be in the country, will rule the country. His country will be very rich "This will be the South Korean model in terms of production," Trump said.
  38. selengen
    selengen 18 May 2018 14: 37
    0
    You must follow the language, otherwise you will repeat the fate of Kennedy!
  39. shirkoled
    shirkoled 18 May 2018 20: 46
    0
    Is Kim Jong-un bite on the chaff? Have events in Iraq and Libya really taught him anything?
  40. lopvlad
    lopvlad 18 May 2018 23: 42
    0
    In 2011, no one gave guarantees for then-Libyan leader Gaddafi. We just went in and destroyed it. This option will take place if Pyongyang does not agree to negotiate.


    US guarantees never cost anything. That gave Mubarek guarantees, and so what.
    Uncle Trump is better concerned about himself and not Kim Jong Un. Because independently destroying him or his US regime, they will suffer so many losses that the red-haired rocketman is guaranteed to be kicked out of the US presidency.
    The DPRK is the most serious adversary with which the United States, after the Second World War, dealt (the government and the people are a monolith and have nuclear weapons). What is the means of delivering these nuclear weapons to large territories.
    The main thing is that the DPRK is guaranteed to use weapons, unlike the Russian authorities, which have over the hill and property.
  41. serlis
    serlis 18 May 2018 23: 46
    +1
    Rather, it will be the other way around, as soon as he gets rid of the weapon, the fate of Gaddafi will befall. The same thing was saved from chemical weapons, the result is known.